The saddest thing about religious guilt and conformity is that it is so oppressive to young girls that instead of teaching them about their sexuality & bodies, they are put into the care of predatory people who take advantage of their naivete and insecurities, and yet, somehow still manage to shame them for events transpired that are not at all their fault. Scanlen is a gem, and I do not think the role could have been more perfectly casted.
Well said and expressed. I am disguated by these double standards and this perception and attitude held by the predators who are so weak and cowardly. No person, male or female deserves treatment like this and for it to be done in the name of religion is shameful. Whats even worse is that this behaviour is unconsciously sanctioned by the people around the predators.
Our stories being retold in movies like this validates our experiences. From the first scene of this trailer, I was immediately transported back to my own youth. My neckline too low. Shorts a bit too high above the knee. Shoulders bared. Bra strap exposed. Do not cause your brother in Christ to sin. I am still working through it, some 20+ years later.
we had fairly normal religion in my home growing up. mom thought God understood if you needed to sleep in and relax on Sundays or go for a walk in the woods. Still she volunteered and was spiritual that was more hippy for the time than i realized. Dad went to church as a duty. his faith was more private and maleable. they were both protestants but dad "gave up" his religion and followed Moms. The weird part is that I started questioning Christianity at 13, wondering out loud if it was the biggest hoax every played on humanity. I'm now a Thelemic, someone who kind of creates their own belief along the way through observation and experience. My sister on the other hand, is very devout. She had a Church of Christ Roommate when she moved for her fist job and kind of made that her own. Is about as far right as you can get. I find it fascinating that there is such a broad difference between us. She has cast demons out of me. I told her I'd be lost without my voices. So its not a healthy relationship. Problem is that relatives are all very Christian so I'm the heathen. My sister has a very toxic side to her, THAT is what had affected me, but that doesn't matter because she shares their beliefs. Religion can be good. Religion can be bad. I believe in love and kindness and empathy and goodness and character and integrity and honesty and respectfulness. I believe in doing my best to do no harm, and when i realize that I have done so without meaning to at any time past or present, I try to take responsibility. That doesnt' come from any religion.
Religious people believe in a fairy tale and they or so often sanctimonious and subtlety caustic to non-believers. The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully. But most religious people have no idea why this is true. Why not just read the Bible carefully and books on the True Bible and critiques of the Bible? And prayer for others never works in scientific studies by Christian Hospitals!!! Of course, nothing phases true believers.
I'm glad religion helps people and I would not interfere. But why shouldn't we mock Jesus, who wants to eternally torture good moral Agnostics? He supported slavery and knew nothing of Germ Theory! OK, I see, he was keeping all scientific knowledge of the future to himself because "god works in mysterious ways" though usually very cruel ways. The people who know the Bible least are the ones who read it the most. Admit it - religious people feel that they are better than the rest of us. Special and privileged not "humble". It's easy to see the selfish nature of mankind dressed up as religion. If not for hoping to go to heaven and avoid imaginary hell, would religious folk act any better than the rest of us? Actually, all scientific studies show atheists and agnostics are as moral as the religious, but for serial killers and we do not give as much to charity as we are not bribed and begged every Sunday.
Religion is fine in that it's a guide that prevents some people from doing serious wrong. But when you look at the inhumanity of the teachings of religion up close, one finds huge problems, corruption, and bad dogma. Thank you in advance for your time and good cheer!
I saw this movie recently on a plane. It was so great. The actress is AMAZING, so real and genuine and you feel her innocence and thoughts playing out and her sincere love of God but also her inner conflicts and pain. The script is really fantastic too and a lot of the cinematography is beautiful. Highly recommend it.
A heart full.of live filled to the brim can't exist if it was taught shame and disgust against itself. True love starts from us, for us. Without it we are just bottomless holes that devour every love that is given, without getting full. So love yourself first, exactley how you were, are and will be. Only then can you truly except the love of others.
the bible differentiates pure and impure religion [james 1:26-27] and it definitely condemns legalism such as this. hopefully these two scriptures can help you understand a bit more of what the bible actually promotes. Since you died with Christ to the elemental spiritual forces of this world, why, as though you still belonged to the world, do you submit to its rules: 21 “Do not handle! Do not taste! Do not touch!”? 22 These rules, which have to do with things that are all destined to perish with use, are based on merely human commands and teachings. 23 Such regulations indeed have an appearance of wisdom, with their self-imposed worship, their false humility and their harsh treatment of the body, but they lack any value in restraining sensual indulgence. [Colossians 2:20-23] but with this in mind, the bible also talks about not using freedom in Christ as an excuse to sin against God: What shall we say, then? Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase? 2 By no means! We are those who have died to sin; how can we live in it any longer? 3 Or don’t you know that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? 4 We were therefore buried with him through baptism into death in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, we too may live a new life... 11 In the same way, count yourselves dead to sin but alive to God in Christ Jesus. 12 Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body so that you obey its evil desires. 13 Do not offer any part of yourself to sin as an instrument of wickedness, but rather offer yourselves to God as those who have been brought from death to life; and offer every part of yourself to him as an instrument of righteousness. 14 For sin shall no longer be your master, because you are not under the law, but under grace. [romans 6:1-4, 11-14]
This film looks really interesting…..but what struck me most in this trail was how they made Austin Abrams look like such a dork! Haha! Well done, costume and hair team.
@@dianajemison105 That's because Christianity, and all religions for that matter, is one big ball of heinousness. Your experience is the exception to the rule.
@@corishim629 The grey is found in every single follower of the Catholic church. All followers are accomplices of child abuse. All of them justify it one way or another. All of them pay for it to happen over and over and over. The grey is in each follower of a religion living by the phrase "The ends justify the means."
Honestly that would make for an awesome movie, maybe narrated by Jodie Foster. The third act twist would be young Clarice begins to suspect there's something not quite right about her young friend and it's eventually revealed he was a serial killer just starting out. The film ends with young Clarice exploring the idea of joining the FBI
There may be many things wrong with this society......I dont know because Im not Christian. But how is parents not wanting their minor daughter to get involved with an older guy, that too a pastor ,considered so wrong. Should they encourage her instead? i swear, people call any society that doesn't encourage promiscuity repressive.
As a spiritual person. And a recent born again, I like to call people who use God like this Bible Pushers. There's nothing in the bible that says God condemns you from growing up and making mistakes, exploring, and learning, and not being perfect, and those who use such a beautiful compassionate God against believers are Bible Pushing creeps. I touched myself yesterday thinking about a hot guy. Guess what, I'm still going to heaven. Thank you😎
Indeed, there's a word for it in Christians circles, it's called 'legalism', some churches can be full of it, although they shouldn't As a believer, I can't wait to see this film....
Gosh, right? Don't they know that Jesus dies for our sins? And some sins, are easily redeemable? I think these Bible pushers forget these parts of humanity, and only choose to focus all the things we are doing "wrong". They view religion as so black and white, but need to account for people being gray.
All these types of religious movies scream to me is the evil of religion, the blind devotion, do or we will expel you, it's wrong for you feel what you naturally feel, do as your told because I'm your elder even to your determent, and the shame, and the shame, don't you dare be different, and the hate of all others not in their religious control.
the bible differentiates pure and impure religion [james 1:26-27] and it definitely condemns legalism such as this. hopefully these two scriptures can help you understand a bit more of what the bible actually promotes. Since you died with Christ to the elemental spiritual forces of this world, why, as though you still belonged to the world, do you submit to its rules: 21 “Do not handle! Do not taste! Do not touch!”? 22 These rules, which have to do with things that are all destined to perish with use, are based on merely human commands and teachings. 23 Such regulations indeed have an appearance of wisdom, with their self-imposed worship, their false humility and their harsh treatment of the body, but they lack any value in restraining sensual indulgence. [Colossians 2:20-23] but with this in mind, the bible also talks about not using freedom in Christ as an excuse to sin against God: What shall we say, then? Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase? 2 By no means! We are those who have died to sin; how can we live in it any longer? 3 Or don’t you know that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? 4 We were therefore buried with him through baptism into death in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, we too may live a new life... 11 In the same way, count yourselves dead to sin but alive to God in Christ Jesus. 12 Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body so that you obey its evil desires. 13 Do not offer any part of yourself to sin as an instrument of wickedness, but rather offer yourselves to God as those who have been brought from death to life; and offer every part of yourself to him as an instrument of righteousness. 14 For sin shall no longer be your master, because you are not under the law, but under grace. [romans 6:1-4, 11-14]
the bible differentiates pure and impure religion [james 1:26-27] and it definitely condemns legalism such as this. hopefully these two scriptures can help you understand a bit more of what the bible actually promotes. Since you died with Christ to the elemental spiritual forces of this world, why, as though you still belonged to the world, do you submit to its rules: 21 “Do not handle! Do not taste! Do not touch!”? 22 These rules, which have to do with things that are all destined to perish with use, are based on merely human commands and teachings. 23 Such regulations indeed have an appearance of wisdom, with their self-imposed worship, their false humility and their harsh treatment of the body, but they lack any value in restraining sensual indulgence. [Colossians 2:20-23] but with this in mind, the bible also talks about not using freedom in Christ as an excuse to sin against God: What shall we say, then? Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase? 2 By no means! We are those who have died to sin; how can we live in it any longer? 3 Or don’t you know that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? 4 We were therefore buried with him through baptism into death in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, we too may live a new life... 11 In the same way, count yourselves dead to sin but alive to God in Christ Jesus. 12 Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body so that you obey its evil desires. 13 Do not offer any part of yourself to sin as an instrument of wickedness, but rather offer yourselves to God as those who have been brought from death to life; and offer every part of yourself to him as an instrument of righteousness. 14 For sin shall no longer be your master, because you are not under the law, but under grace. [romans 6:1-4, 11-14]
I never experienced any negativity in the church I grew up in. It makes me sad when people lump all Christians together. It's like saying all white people are racist.
@@dianajemison105 I'll repost a response from above: "That's because Christianity, and all religions for that matter, is one big ball of heinousness. Your experience is the exception to the rule."
@@riverotter68 Then you need to get out more-- Christianity and by extension all religion predicates and by necessity requires shame, unequal power distribution, arbitrary and barbaric rules and regulations, a deep fear of god to instill control, pushing their beliefs on others through force or otherwise, massacres and killings in the name of god... the list is endless and far outweighs the positives. Christianity is, by its own definition and categorization, an evil thing.
Can we see some movies where christians are shown in a good light for once. A true christian is not a hateful, overly restrictive, unkind person but the world all thinks we are because of movies like this.
@@000luvrnhatr000 I’m sorry if you’ve ever received hate from someone who says they are a Christian, but as I said TRUE Christian’s are not like this. If you are truly following Jesus and His word then you will be kind and not hateful. Many people can say they are Christian and not be following what Jesus said to do. So I am saying, I would like to see some movies present a true Christian. A person who is loving and kind, and has faith in the Lord. Because movies like this, tell the world that all Christian’s are hateful.
@@caiwyne There is no 'true' Xian - if they say they are Xian, they are, period. And Xians are portrayed as the 'good people' in thousands of movies and tv shows since, basically, tv and movies began. Xians are not repressed or persecuted, and to pretend that they (you) are is disingenuous. Many, many, many Xians are hateful, ugly people who are more than happy to use their 'holy' book to oppress, negate, belittle, and even kill. Some Xians currently preach that beating your child and then forcing them to say 'thank you' is 'godly' and good. I see reports literally every. Single. Day. of youth pastors or priests or other 'good, Xian' men (and some women) who have assaulted and raped children. Our Xian politicians have literally wished death on the President, on transgender CHILDREN, on anyone who doesn't believe (and look, and act) as they do. If you don't agree with those actions, that's good; what's better is to show by your ACTIONS that you actually follow the words of Jesus 'love one another as you love yourself'.
Yep and it probably glorifies her whoredoms and puts sinful self above God. Without holiness and faith it is impossible to please God.... yet the truth is too "judgmental" and "hateful " to the sinful masses. God is merciful yet people just want excuses to sin. When they are tormented in the lake of fire they will understand but it'll be too late.
Well, Christianity doesn't do itself any favours by making it extremely easy to be viewed by almost everyone (that has not been brainwashed by it) in a negative light.
@rustythrombosis5417 @aubarb5856 @riverotter68 the bible differentiates pure and impure religion [james 1:26-27] and it definitely condemns legalism such as this. hopefully these two scriptures can help you understand a bit more of what the bible actually promotes. Since you died with Christ to the elemental spiritual forces of this world, why, as though you still belonged to the world, do you submit to its rules: 21 “Do not handle! Do not taste! Do not touch!”? 22 These rules, which have to do with things that are all destined to perish with use, are based on merely human commands and teachings. 23 Such regulations indeed have an appearance of wisdom, with their self-imposed worship, their false humility and their harsh treatment of the body, but they lack any value in restraining sensual indulgence. [Colossians 2:20-23] but with this in mind, the bible also talks about not using freedom in Christ as an excuse to sin against God: What shall we say, then? Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase? 2 By no means! We are those who have died to sin; how can we live in it any longer? 3 Or don’t you know that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? 4 We were therefore buried with him through baptism into death in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, we too may live a new life... 11 In the same way, count yourselves dead to sin but alive to God in Christ Jesus. 12 Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body so that you obey its evil desires. 13 Do not offer any part of yourself to sin as an instrument of wickedness, but rather offer yourselves to God as those who have been brought from death to life; and offer every part of yourself to him as an instrument of righteousness. 14 For sin shall no longer be your master, because you are not under the law, but under grace. [romans 6:1-4, 11-14]
Denying someone’s true lived experience represented in film to protect an belief system with net-negative impact on the world throughout history is cult like behavior.
@@emma-nemesis the bible differentiates pure and impure religion [james 1:26-27] and it definitely condemns legalism such as this. hopefully these two scriptures can help you understand a bit more of what the bible actually promotes. Since you died with Christ to the elemental spiritual forces of this world, why, as though you still belonged to the world, do you submit to its rules: 21 “Do not handle! Do not taste! Do not touch!”? 22 These rules, which have to do with things that are all destined to perish with use, are based on merely human commands and teachings. 23 Such regulations indeed have an appearance of wisdom, with their self-imposed worship, their false humility and their harsh treatment of the body, but they lack any value in restraining sensual indulgence. [Colossians 2:20-23] but with this in mind, the bible also talks about not using freedom in Christ as an excuse to sin against God: What shall we say, then? Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase? 2 By no means! We are those who have died to sin; how can we live in it any longer? 3 Or don’t you know that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? 4 We were therefore buried with him through baptism into death in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, we too may live a new life... 11 In the same way, count yourselves dead to sin but alive to God in Christ Jesus. 12 Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body so that you obey its evil desires. 13 Do not offer any part of yourself to sin as an instrument of wickedness, but rather offer yourselves to God as those who have been brought from death to life; and offer every part of yourself to him as an instrument of righteousness. 14 For sin shall no longer be your master, because you are not under the law, but under grace. [romans 6:1-4, 11-14]
Ok, ok, ok, OH KAY! We get it already, Hollywood… Christianity is bad. Here, watch… show of hands… who here in this comment section thinks Christianity is NOT, I repeat, NOT, the cause of ALL of the world’s problems? See, nobody raised their hands. You did your job. Everybody hates Christianity. Now that that’s out of the way… could you please make a non-formulaic movie that doesn’t pander or have Michael Bay-esq special effects? One that isn’t written by chimpanzees with tree branches for arms or directed by a 2x4 with googly eyes glued to it and wearing a beret? In other words… one that doesn’t suck?
I'll raise that hand. Christianity is not the cause of all the world's problems (and I'm not sure this is suggesting that) - but it, along with other religions, have a fair bit to answer to. I'm struggling as to whether you were triggered because you truly think, subject matter aside, this is a bad movie or whether you are just being defensive over the subject matter. If the latter, then I'd suggest "Hollywood" probably walked on egg shells over Christianity (among other religions) for long enough. These stories happen - they surely can and should be able to be presented?
I saw the film at Sundance, it's actually an incredibly nuanced and complex look at faith and Christianity, it's not anti-religion. I'd watch the film before making assumptions
@@kymfortescue6737 i've just had it up to here with the anti-religion movies. it's really predictable. i knew she was going to get shamed and the focus of the film would be on a pervy slightly older preacherman who seduces her and that everything would land on her as the woman. This was edgy and groundbreaking 50 years ago because you are right, hollywood walked on egg shells for too long. But it hasn't been new or different in a long old time. indeed, it reminds me of this other movie where a young religious lass gets pervo-ed by a preacherman, falls pregnant and does herself in and her brother or somebody kills the guy. Been there, seen that. What would be refreshingly different is if she'd been happy that boy showed interest, and then they'd navigated some challenge as a couple such as helping his sick mother or struggled to start a homestead or something-but remained united in their behaving decently towards each other. if i had a nickel for every time a film showed some muslim girl's or christian girl's or orthodox girl's oppressive upbringing and then her freedom and escape i'd be rich enough to start a hollywood studio and make movies where every person in the religious community was actually a good joe and they all worked together and behaved well and lived happily. i know none of the drama-addicts out there would watch it, but i'd watch it and that's good enough for me.
The saddest thing about religious guilt and conformity is that it is so oppressive to young girls that instead of teaching them about their sexuality & bodies, they are put into the care of predatory people who take advantage of their naivete and insecurities, and yet, somehow still manage to shame them for events transpired that are not at all their fault. Scanlen is a gem, and I do not think the role could have been more perfectly casted.
Well said and expressed. I am disguated by these double standards and this perception and attitude held by the predators who are so weak and cowardly.
No person, male or female deserves treatment like this and for it to be done in the name of religion is shameful. Whats even worse is that this behaviour is unconsciously sanctioned by the people around the predators.
@@hyrroswaldnoon Sense of honour, both individual and collective STILL exists. The world is not just America.
Would you consider the Pride movement a cult?
@@ryleighloughty3307 No thinking person would consider the Pride movement a cult.
@@Olive_O_Sudden And yet, does it not have the attributes of a cult?
Our stories being retold in movies like this validates our experiences. From the first scene of this trailer, I was immediately transported back to my own youth. My neckline too low. Shorts a bit too high above the knee. Shoulders bared. Bra strap exposed. Do not cause your brother in Christ to sin. I am still working through it, some 20+ years later.
we had fairly normal religion in my home growing up. mom thought God understood if you needed to sleep in and relax on Sundays or go for a walk in the woods. Still she volunteered and was spiritual that was more hippy for the time than i realized. Dad went to church as a duty. his faith was more private and maleable. they were both protestants but dad "gave up" his religion and followed Moms.
The weird part is that I started questioning Christianity at 13, wondering out loud if it was the biggest hoax every played on humanity. I'm now a Thelemic, someone who kind of creates their own belief along the way through observation and experience. My sister on the other hand, is very devout. She had a Church of Christ Roommate when she moved for her fist job and kind of made that her own. Is about as far right as you can get.
I find it fascinating that there is such a broad difference between us. She has cast demons out of me. I told her I'd be lost without my voices. So its not a healthy relationship. Problem is that relatives are all very Christian so I'm the heathen. My sister has a very toxic side to her, THAT is what had affected me, but that doesn't matter because she shares their beliefs.
Religion can be good. Religion can be bad. I believe in love and kindness and empathy and goodness and character and integrity and honesty and respectfulness. I believe in doing my best to do no harm, and when i realize that I have done so without meaning to at any time past or present, I try to take responsibility. That doesnt' come from any religion.
same.
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Religious people believe in a fairy tale and they or so often sanctimonious and subtlety caustic to non-believers. The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully. But most religious people have no idea why this is true.
Why not just read the Bible carefully and books on the True Bible and critiques of the Bible? And prayer for others never works in scientific studies by Christian Hospitals!!! Of course, nothing phases true believers.
I'm glad religion helps people and I would not interfere. But why shouldn't we mock Jesus, who wants to eternally torture good moral Agnostics? He supported slavery and knew nothing of Germ Theory! OK, I see, he was keeping all scientific knowledge of the future to himself because "god works in mysterious ways" though usually very cruel ways.
The people who know the Bible least are the ones who read it the most. Admit it - religious people feel that they are better than the rest of us. Special and privileged not "humble". It's easy to see the selfish nature of mankind dressed up as religion. If not for hoping to go to heaven and avoid imaginary hell, would religious folk act any better than the rest of us? Actually, all scientific studies show atheists and agnostics are as moral as the religious, but for serial killers and we do not give as much to charity as we are not bribed and begged every Sunday.
Religion is fine in that it's a guide that prevents some people from doing serious wrong. But when you look at the inhumanity of the teachings of religion up close, one finds huge problems, corruption, and bad dogma.
Thank you in advance for your time and good cheer!
"I want a heart full of love. I want it to fill me to the brim" Um, that's the most amazing quote ever!
absolutely
How? It's corny and cheesy
this film looks incredible, can't wait to watch
@@tomac100 not shitting on a caricature, it's just how it is in some places. Maybe open your mind first lel. The film hasn't even come out yet.
@@satyre_1 Yeah the film didn't come out yet people (as OP) already sing it praises)))
This is quite similar to Eliza’s Role in “ The devil all the time.”
It’s in the same neighbourhood but she’s brilliant
I saw this movie recently on a plane. It was so great. The actress is AMAZING, so real and genuine and you feel her innocence and thoughts playing out and her sincere love of God but also her inner conflicts and pain. The script is really fantastic too and a lot of the cinematography is beautiful. Highly recommend it.
Just watched this tonight at an early premier and it’s AMAZING.
Lord Huron playing in the background is always a good sign!
I am happy someone finally present this themes in movies, I think many people need to see it🙂
btv music is so beautiful 🥰
This looks most excellently acted!
This looks amazing!
A heart full.of live filled to the brim can't exist if it was taught shame and disgust against itself.
True love starts from us, for us.
Without it we are just bottomless holes that devour every love that is given, without getting full.
So love yourself first, exactley how you were, are and will be.
Only then can you truly except the love of others.
the bible differentiates pure and impure religion [james 1:26-27] and it definitely condemns legalism such as this. hopefully these two scriptures can help you understand a bit more of what the bible actually promotes.
Since you died with Christ to the elemental spiritual forces of this world, why, as though you still belonged to the world, do you submit to its rules: 21 “Do not handle! Do not taste! Do not touch!”? 22 These rules, which have to do with things that are all destined to perish with use, are based on merely human commands and teachings. 23 Such regulations indeed have an appearance of wisdom, with their self-imposed worship, their false humility and their harsh treatment of the body, but they lack any value in restraining sensual indulgence. [Colossians 2:20-23]
but with this in mind, the bible also talks about not using freedom in Christ as an excuse to sin against God:
What shall we say, then? Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase? 2 By no means! We are those who have died to sin; how can we live in it any longer? 3 Or don’t you know that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? 4 We were therefore buried with him through baptism into death in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, we too may live a new life... 11 In the same way, count yourselves dead to sin but alive to God in Christ Jesus. 12 Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body so that you obey its evil desires. 13 Do not offer any part of yourself to sin as an instrument of wickedness, but rather offer yourselves to God as those who have been brought from death to life; and offer every part of yourself to him as an instrument of righteousness. 14 For sin shall no longer be your master, because you are not under the law, but under grace. [romans 6:1-4, 11-14]
I've loved her performances ever since seeing Sharp Objects
Blimey this is intriguing....
looks incredible
This film looks really interesting…..but what struck me most in this trail was how they made Austin Abrams look like such a dork! Haha! Well done, costume and hair team.
wow. just wow.
Oh gosh, it didn't take a dark turn with the guy, phew
I was afraid of that too
give me eliza scanlen and i'm in.
Lady: I can see your bra.
Me: And you're about to see these hands.
Great another teal and orange colour palette film.
There's no hate quite like Christian love. (I stole that quote from someone else. But it's true.)
I wish people did lump all Christians together in big negative ball, like that. I grew up in the church, and I never experienced any negativity.
@@dianajemison105 That's because Christianity, and all religions for that matter, is one big ball of heinousness. Your experience is the exception to the rule.
@@sitnspin1819 it's bc she's brainwashed
@@sitnspin1819 that's quite a black and white perspective, where's the grey?
@@corishim629 The grey is found in every single follower of the Catholic church. All followers are accomplices of child abuse. All of them justify it one way or another. All of them pay for it to happen over and over and over. The grey is in each follower of a religion living by the phrase "The ends justify the means."
Is she supposed to be Clarice Starling?
Honestly that would make for an awesome movie, maybe narrated by Jodie Foster. The third act twist would be young Clarice begins to suspect there's something not quite right about her young friend and it's eventually revealed he was a serial killer just starting out. The film ends with young Clarice exploring the idea of joining the FBI
Where did that come from omg 😂
There may be many things wrong with this society......I dont know because Im not Christian. But how is parents not wanting their minor daughter to get involved with an older guy, that too a pastor ,considered so wrong. Should they encourage her instead? i swear, people call any society that doesn't encourage promiscuity repressive.
Watch the movie.
@@fudgyboo No thanks
@@vanyamishra3078 Then wtf are you blabbering about if you don't even know the situation and refuse to know it?
omg that's terrifying
As a spiritual person. And a recent born again, I like to call people who use God like this Bible Pushers. There's nothing in the bible that says God condemns you from growing up and making mistakes, exploring, and learning, and not being perfect, and those who use such a beautiful compassionate God against believers are Bible Pushing creeps. I touched myself yesterday thinking about a hot guy. Guess what, I'm still going to heaven. Thank you😎
Indeed, there's a word for it in Christians circles, it's called 'legalism', some churches can be full of it, although they shouldn't
As a believer, I can't wait to see this film....
Gosh, right? Don't they know that Jesus dies for our sins? And some sins, are easily redeemable? I think these Bible pushers forget these parts of humanity, and only choose to focus all the things we are doing "wrong". They view religion as so black and white, but need to account for people being gray.
Blockbuster trailer 3 star vs good movie 3 star 🙄🙄🙄
terrifying
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ethel cain core
i feel asleep during the trailer sorry
ethel cain - coded
please gevi her a makeup
All these types of religious movies scream to me is the evil of religion, the blind devotion, do or we will expel you, it's wrong for you feel what you naturally feel, do as your told because I'm your elder even to your determent, and the shame, and the shame, don't you dare be different, and the hate of all others not in their religious control.
Hollywood has no nuance. They either make a pro-faith movie, or an anti-faith movie when it comes to Christianity. There's no gray area
Well that's what religion is though.
the bible differentiates pure and impure religion [james 1:26-27] and it definitely condemns legalism such as this. hopefully these two scriptures can help you understand a bit more of what the bible actually promotes.
Since you died with Christ to the elemental spiritual forces of this world, why, as though you still belonged to the world, do you submit to its rules: 21 “Do not handle! Do not taste! Do not touch!”? 22 These rules, which have to do with things that are all destined to perish with use, are based on merely human commands and teachings. 23 Such regulations indeed have an appearance of wisdom, with their self-imposed worship, their false humility and their harsh treatment of the body, but they lack any value in restraining sensual indulgence. [Colossians 2:20-23]
but with this in mind, the bible also talks about not using freedom in Christ as an excuse to sin against God:
What shall we say, then? Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase? 2 By no means! We are those who have died to sin; how can we live in it any longer? 3 Or don’t you know that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? 4 We were therefore buried with him through baptism into death in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, we too may live a new life... 11 In the same way, count yourselves dead to sin but alive to God in Christ Jesus. 12 Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body so that you obey its evil desires. 13 Do not offer any part of yourself to sin as an instrument of wickedness, but rather offer yourselves to God as those who have been brought from death to life; and offer every part of yourself to him as an instrument of righteousness. 14 For sin shall no longer be your master, because you are not under the law, but under grace. [romans 6:1-4, 11-14]
A big NOPE from me. Too much PTSD in this movie to enjoy it. Religion is so bad.
RIGHT?! Religious trauma is so very real. Hope you're OK, friend.
the bible differentiates pure and impure religion [james 1:26-27] and it definitely condemns legalism such as this. hopefully these two scriptures can help you understand a bit more of what the bible actually promotes.
Since you died with Christ to the elemental spiritual forces of this world, why, as though you still belonged to the world, do you submit to its rules: 21 “Do not handle! Do not taste! Do not touch!”? 22 These rules, which have to do with things that are all destined to perish with use, are based on merely human commands and teachings. 23 Such regulations indeed have an appearance of wisdom, with their self-imposed worship, their false humility and their harsh treatment of the body, but they lack any value in restraining sensual indulgence. [Colossians 2:20-23]
but with this in mind, the bible also talks about not using freedom in Christ as an excuse to sin against God:
What shall we say, then? Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase? 2 By no means! We are those who have died to sin; how can we live in it any longer? 3 Or don’t you know that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? 4 We were therefore buried with him through baptism into death in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, we too may live a new life... 11 In the same way, count yourselves dead to sin but alive to God in Christ Jesus. 12 Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body so that you obey its evil desires. 13 Do not offer any part of yourself to sin as an instrument of wickedness, but rather offer yourselves to God as those who have been brought from death to life; and offer every part of yourself to him as an instrument of righteousness. 14 For sin shall no longer be your master, because you are not under the law, but under grace. [romans 6:1-4, 11-14]
Annnnnnnnnnd another movie where Christianity is evil .
You don't know how repressive Christianity culture within the church is until you get out from under it. I just hope the she doesn't die in the end!
I never experienced any negativity in the church I grew up in. It makes me sad when people lump all Christians together. It's like saying all white people are racist.
@@dianajemison105 I'll repost a response from above: "That's because Christianity, and all religions for that matter, is one big ball of heinousness. Your experience is the exception to the rule."
been a Christian all of my life. This movie does not reflect Christianity - only a small sect
@@riverotter68 Then you need to get out more-- Christianity and by extension all religion predicates and by necessity requires shame, unequal power distribution, arbitrary and barbaric rules and regulations, a deep fear of god to instill control, pushing their beliefs on others through force or otherwise, massacres and killings in the name of god... the list is endless and far outweighs the positives. Christianity is, by its own definition and categorization, an evil thing.
@@riverotter68 Agreed. Jesus and the church saved me from a life of selfish behavior.
Can we see some movies where christians are shown in a good light for once. A true christian is not a hateful, overly restrictive, unkind person but the world all thinks we are because of movies like this.
Trust me it’s not because of movies 😂 it’s because of the hate y’all give
@@000luvrnhatr000 I’m sorry if you’ve ever received hate from someone who says they are a Christian, but as I said TRUE Christian’s are not like this. If you are truly following Jesus and His word then you will be kind and not hateful. Many people can say they are Christian and not be following what Jesus said to do. So I am saying, I would like to see some movies present a true Christian. A person who is loving and kind, and has faith in the Lord. Because movies like this, tell the world that all Christian’s are hateful.
@@caiwyne most are hateful bigots
@@caiwyne There is no 'true' Xian - if they say they are Xian, they are, period. And Xians are portrayed as the 'good people' in thousands of movies and tv shows since, basically, tv and movies began. Xians are not repressed or persecuted, and to pretend that they (you) are is disingenuous. Many, many, many Xians are hateful, ugly people who are more than happy to use their 'holy' book to oppress, negate, belittle, and even kill. Some Xians currently preach that beating your child and then forcing them to say 'thank you' is 'godly' and good. I see reports literally every. Single. Day. of youth pastors or priests or other 'good, Xian' men (and some women) who have assaulted and raped children. Our Xian politicians have literally wished death on the President, on transgender CHILDREN, on anyone who doesn't believe (and look, and act) as they do.
If you don't agree with those actions, that's good; what's better is to show by your ACTIONS that you actually follow the words of Jesus 'love one another as you love yourself'.
A film that shows Christianity in a negative light? I'm shocked! How can this be?
Yep and it probably glorifies her whoredoms and puts sinful self above God. Without holiness and faith it is impossible to please God.... yet the truth is too "judgmental" and "hateful " to the sinful masses. God is merciful yet people just want excuses to sin. When they are tormented in the lake of fire they will understand but it'll be too late.
Well, Christianity doesn't do itself any favours by making it extremely easy to be viewed by almost everyone (that has not been brainwashed by it) in a negative light.
It's low hanging fruit, dude. The equivalent of jingling car keys in front of babies.
Because it's...a cult? 💡
@rustythrombosis5417 @aubarb5856 @riverotter68 the bible differentiates pure and impure religion [james 1:26-27] and it definitely condemns legalism such as this. hopefully these two scriptures can help you understand a bit more of what the bible actually promotes.
Since you died with Christ to the elemental spiritual forces of this world, why, as though you still belonged to the world, do you submit to its rules: 21 “Do not handle! Do not taste! Do not touch!”? 22 These rules, which have to do with things that are all destined to perish with use, are based on merely human commands and teachings. 23 Such regulations indeed have an appearance of wisdom, with their self-imposed worship, their false humility and their harsh treatment of the body, but they lack any value in restraining sensual indulgence. [Colossians 2:20-23]
but with this in mind, the bible also talks about not using freedom in Christ as an excuse to sin against God:
What shall we say, then? Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase? 2 By no means! We are those who have died to sin; how can we live in it any longer? 3 Or don’t you know that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? 4 We were therefore buried with him through baptism into death in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, we too may live a new life... 11 In the same way, count yourselves dead to sin but alive to God in Christ Jesus. 12 Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body so that you obey its evil desires. 13 Do not offer any part of yourself to sin as an instrument of wickedness, but rather offer yourselves to God as those who have been brought from death to life; and offer every part of yourself to him as an instrument of righteousness. 14 For sin shall no longer be your master, because you are not under the law, but under grace. [romans 6:1-4, 11-14]
Evil filth. This "movie" is nothing but an advertisement for smoking. Filth like this should be illegal
im born again christian and i was never treated like this at all No one really gave me any crap or anything. So biased
This isn't Christianity. It is Christian Fundamentalism, and it's an accurate representation.
Denying someone’s true lived experience represented in film to protect an belief system with net-negative impact on the world throughout history is cult like behavior.
@@emma-nemesis the bible differentiates pure and impure religion [james 1:26-27] and it definitely condemns legalism such as this. hopefully these two scriptures can help you understand a bit more of what the bible actually promotes.
Since you died with Christ to the elemental spiritual forces of this world, why, as though you still belonged to the world, do you submit to its rules: 21 “Do not handle! Do not taste! Do not touch!”? 22 These rules, which have to do with things that are all destined to perish with use, are based on merely human commands and teachings. 23 Such regulations indeed have an appearance of wisdom, with their self-imposed worship, their false humility and their harsh treatment of the body, but they lack any value in restraining sensual indulgence. [Colossians 2:20-23]
but with this in mind, the bible also talks about not using freedom in Christ as an excuse to sin against God:
What shall we say, then? Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase? 2 By no means! We are those who have died to sin; how can we live in it any longer? 3 Or don’t you know that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? 4 We were therefore buried with him through baptism into death in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, we too may live a new life... 11 In the same way, count yourselves dead to sin but alive to God in Christ Jesus. 12 Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body so that you obey its evil desires. 13 Do not offer any part of yourself to sin as an instrument of wickedness, but rather offer yourselves to God as those who have been brought from death to life; and offer every part of yourself to him as an instrument of righteousness. 14 For sin shall no longer be your master, because you are not under the law, but under grace. [romans 6:1-4, 11-14]
Cool beans. I know many people who have
Old theme....boring.
Imagine how transgressive is it to make a movie derailing religion in a socialist marksist fascist state. 😂
Christians are bad, feminism is good... how original. Thank you, propaganda machine! Now I will cut off my dinky and wear a wig!
Please do
I'm sure you'll look very cute
Ok, ok, ok, OH KAY! We get it already, Hollywood… Christianity is bad. Here, watch… show of hands… who here in this comment section thinks Christianity is NOT, I repeat, NOT, the cause of ALL of the world’s problems? See, nobody raised their hands. You did your job. Everybody hates Christianity. Now that that’s out of the way… could you please make a non-formulaic movie that doesn’t pander or have Michael Bay-esq special effects? One that isn’t written by chimpanzees with tree branches for arms or directed by a 2x4 with googly eyes glued to it and wearing a beret? In other words… one that doesn’t suck?
i've been an atheist all my life, and i have to agree with this comment. What ever happened to the idea of live and let live?
I'll raise that hand. Christianity is not the cause of all the world's problems (and I'm not sure this is suggesting that) - but it, along with other religions, have a fair bit to answer to. I'm struggling as to whether you were triggered because you truly think, subject matter aside, this is a bad movie or whether you are just being defensive over the subject matter. If the latter, then I'd suggest "Hollywood" probably walked on egg shells over Christianity (among other religions) for long enough. These stories happen - they surely can and should be able to be presented?
So these stories can't be represented on film then? Why?
I saw the film at Sundance, it's actually an incredibly nuanced and complex look at faith and Christianity, it's not anti-religion. I'd watch the film before making assumptions
@@kymfortescue6737 i've just had it up to here with the anti-religion movies. it's really predictable. i knew she was going to get shamed and the focus of the film would be on a pervy slightly older preacherman who seduces her and that everything would land on her as the woman. This was edgy and groundbreaking 50 years ago because you are right, hollywood walked on egg shells for too long. But it hasn't been new or different in a long old time. indeed, it reminds me of this other movie where a young religious lass gets pervo-ed by a preacherman, falls pregnant and does herself in and her brother or somebody kills the guy. Been there, seen that. What would be refreshingly different is if she'd been happy that boy showed interest, and then they'd navigated some challenge as a couple such as helping his sick mother or struggled to start a homestead or something-but remained united in their behaving decently towards each other. if i had a nickel for every time a film showed some muslim girl's or christian girl's or orthodox girl's oppressive upbringing and then her freedom and escape i'd be rich enough to start a hollywood studio and make movies where every person in the religious community was actually a good joe and they all worked together and behaved well and lived happily. i know none of the drama-addicts out there would watch it, but i'd watch it and that's good enough for me.
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