Bishop Barron on “The Goldfinch”
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- čas přidán 23. 09. 2019
- The new film “The Goldfinch” is based on a novel by Donna Tartt, who is not only a great novelist but also a Catholic, and I think her Catholicism comes through especially clearly in the spiritual lesson of this story.
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I wouldn't have clearly understood the other deeper meaning of this movie had you not shared your personal reflection on the essence of savouring and appreciating gifts and in return, giving them away for others to enjoy. This only shows the lovely cycle of Christan gift-receiving and gift-giving. Wonderful!
Beautiful! A breath of fresh air. I so appreciate your spirit and your talks.
Love when you do movie reviews! My husband is atheist but watches your movie reviews and enjoys them 😊
Love your work BRB. Devouring everything. Best voice on Catholicism going. Don't stop...there's no time to waste
BEST Voice on Catholicism.
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You guys should probably be listening to some more voices if you think this one is the best.
Also, it's "Your Grace" or "Your Excellency," not "BRB."
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Must admit, 'best' for ME.
Voices are to be listened to, after all.
Thought BRB is *short* for Bishop Robert Barron.
@@marypinakat8594 That's not how bishops are addressed. It's disrespectful whether it was meant to be or not.
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Thank you. I have never used the short form myself. Thanks again.
In this case definitely there has not been lack of respect for the reason that it is occurring in the course of showing appreciation. It's merely in the handling of the language. Value the information though.
Perfection in re-gifting in all our blessings. Hard to do sometimes, but with practice can be done without remorse. Thank you Bishop for your beautiful interpretation/message.
Thank you very much, Bishop Barron, for taking me by the hand to the understanding of God's Word via ordinary signs of everyday life.
Great insight Bishop. Too often when we lose a loved one, we fall into a similar trap (but instead of hoarding a painting, we hoard their memory, our love for them, etc).
Beautiful story and inspiring summary by Bishop Barron.
Thank you so much Bishop Berron.god bless.
Thank you so much Bishop Barron. God bless
I can't wait to read a book by Donna Tartt now! I'm on a waiting list for The Goldfinch. As I was listening to this wonderful review, it occurred to me that the painting itself illustrates your point Bishop Barron. Someone tried to hold onto a goldfinch - putting it on a chain - rather than just appreciating it in its natural setting.
God bless! You have been such a blessing to me and my family!!
Excellent review, Thank You, Bishop Barron
Such an important message.
By God's grace, that's what I needed for a soon to be held homily at a funeral.
I will have to read the book now. Lovely introduction.
Thank you for your insight ;I love your work!
Dear Bishop Barron, I recently finished The Goldfinch, a novel I read because you spoke so highly of it. I also watched the Brideshead Revisited miniseries and loved it too. Anyways, after finishing the book, I looked at the painting The Goldfinch, gazed at it, lost myself in the image. And what I saw was the crucifixion. I saw suggestions of the crown of thorns, the INRI sign, Christ’s pale skin from losing so much blood, Jesus hair, the wound at his side, even a hint of Jesus’ face. I thought I was just making things up and seeing things (which may still be true) but then I looked up information about the actual goldfinch bird, and I was amazed to find the European Goldfinch is a symbol of the crucifixion in European art. Just thought I’d share that and suggest that one of the major themes of The Goldfinch novel is redemptive suffering.
So deep.... thank you, Bishop.
"Beautiful things and precious people ... given the Faith vision, appreciate them and savour them ...don't hold on to them ... let go of them, make a gift of them for somebody else"
And that i shall strive to do. Beautifully said. 😃
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Beautiful resolution...
Barron, The Secret History and Donna Tartt. We live in great times.👍
Teurascal x You might, but I didn’t.😆
No more Roger&Ebert; no more Rotten Tomatoes. I will wait for the Bishop's review.
Nice. I'm with you. 😃
Because you never read a book or music or movie review before spending the time/money.
@@thundercrow777 I prefer movies that convey spiritual lessons.
@@thundercrow777 I concede.
A brilliant review/homily -- as usual. Thanks! :)
Bishop Barron, you can even see that same theme in the Goldfinch painting. The beauty of a bird is in its flight, and it must be released in order to enjoy it in its full glory. But in an attempt to hoard that beauty, the bird is chained, leaving us with a gift that is longer-lasting, but unfulfilling.
Indeed, the genius in the Artist!
"BY ALL MEANS they try to hold me secure who love me in this world. But it is otherwise with thy love which is greater than theirs; and thou keepest me free."
*Rabindranath Tagore (GITANJALI 32)*
Absolutely brilliant review. I consider discussions like this very intelligent. How does the Bishop keep creating these masterpieces and seeing Catholicism in the arts?
Wow... watched this in the cinema with my wife, still our favourite movie of the year and we didn't even know it was written by a Christian. Love your review.
This spoke to me today! Thank you!
I love your cultural commentary. This shows our church is not anti intellectual. Quite the contrary! Thank you and God bless you.
Good day Bp Barron!
I have come across you St Thomas aquinas book, and i cant help but thank you for such an elucidating work on St Thomas' spirituality. I just can't understand a word that you often use for: God, Jesus, and man, and that is the word: ecstacy... Can you elaborate on that... Thank you!
"Carel Fabritius died young, caught in the explosion of the Delft gunpowder magazine on October 12, 1654, which destroyed a quarter of the city, along with his studio and many of his paintings. Only about a dozen paintings have survived. According to Houbraken, his student Mattias Spoors and the church deacon Simon Decker died with him, since they were working on a painting together at the time."
"Among his works are A View of Delft (1652), The Goldfinch (1654), and The Sentry (1654)."
I think this might speak to the spirit of poverty in relation to the virtue of hope. When we struggle with spiritual poverty, we cling disorderly to things (even legitimately precious things) because we have no hope. Maybe that's why it's so painful to let go to some things...it feels like all the hope we invested in them is being taken away.
We're trained by nature and by ourselves to strive and hope for certain goods like family, kids, friends, even wealth only to face one day when we shut our eyes not being able to have them anymore. Speaking for myself, without the hope in Christ, nothing is worth hoping for; without Him, it might even be better to cling to that painting even only if for the illusion. He's the only one that can balm that pain in this valley of tears.
Hey Bishop Barron, I had a quick question concerning this video. You say that people/experiences should be savored and then let go of. My question is, to what end? Is there an ultimate purpose to any of these things if we are not supposed to hold onto them? Thank you in advance for any response.
"For whoever would save his life will lose it and whoever looses his life for my sake will find it."
-*JESUS (Mathew **16:25**)*
Love your ministry, Bishop. You take the most beautiful thing that was ever created with human input - the Catholic Church - and make it accessible, in all its glory, maddening complexity and transcendent truth. So, what indeed to you do with precious things in our lives? Are we to "let go" of the most precious thing of all? Or do we defend her against the massive assault she is under? And how do we do that when the attacker is our father, and our big brothers are silent?
In this context, "letting go" of the Catholic Church means becoming a missionary on her behalf.
@@BishopBarron I suspect you know what I mean, Bishop. Let us just say I'm one of the laity and I'm massively fearful. My father was a soldier. He always said better to have a division of the enemy before you than a squad of them behind.
Joe Francis Still not sure what you’re driving at.
@@BishopBarron OK, here it is. You are not an ordinary bishop. Your ministry is the successor to Fulton Sheen. Your ability to explain Catholicism is THAT good. You have a power that is just not available to other bishops. The Catholic Church is in a state of war, and right now it's Stalingrad. You know what's happening, and if it keeps happening for much longer there isn't going to be a Church left. We need every good man on our side, and it starts with the bishops. They need to open their mouths and start reminding the world that we're not protestants. We don't treat with the world, we don't "modernize" and we don't adapt sacred tradition or the Magisterium to the mores of the time. The message is what it is, and the world can take it or leave it. You like using movies to get your message across? How about Patrick Swayze in Roadhouse - "I'm telling you straight, it's my way or the highway". If that's not coming from Rome, it needs to come from the bishops. We're the sheep; where are our shepherds?
Joe Francis Well friend, I’ve published twenty books of theology, a hundred articles, roughly a thousand videos, two ten-part documentaries,and yes, a few movie treatments. I’ve spoken directly about Catholicism for three decades. I’m not sure what you think I’m not doing.
Are you going to do a video on "The Two Popes" by chance?
There was a very pivotal scene( one that expands over the course of the book) after the explosion; in it the reader finds out WHY Theo took the painting in the first place....It had little to do with his mother(I hate to give out more here due to spoilers)..... although he hung on to it dearly for years later because of her and her memory.
No one's gonna read an 800 page book please just tell us.
Bishop B, I'm highly interested on your take on the upcoming the Amazon Snyod. Will you be attending the Snyod?
I'll love your take on Movies:) Gotta check this Picture out!
Thanks Bishop:)
Rome has already published the list of participants in the Synod. Look up.
Would you consider a book review of “The Secret History”?
Oh my gosh, I LITERALLY just bought the book. This is absolute bonkers! I'm ecstatic, but I'm afraid I will have to wait and read the novel first before watching this because of spoilers.
It is just lovely thank you. It is a clarion call in my brain and I've been having more and more of these as time rolls on that my gifts from God are my ability to create music and words. I've hoarded it out of fear of rejection, so I go on with my none musical life. In the back of my mind I'm always wondering when I should start again to create or at least release the things I've already created. Paintings admired by the dark you could say. I'm still struggling with the verve to begin again that life but its so personal I hoard them. I enjoy them so that is enough. I keep waiting for the springboard of inspiration to go like a geyser that will overwhelm unwillingness but my ability to suppress is still strong. The cycle to non exist until I don't exist remains until eventually I don't exist at all. I have several backdoor escape plans that are selfish in nature but hold on to the belief that God knows my songs and has heard them. Being Catholic I participate in this world but I'm playing the long game for Life Everlasting. I'm realizing I'm using this format to justify my own selfishness.
Excellent comment. Thank you
i think its important to note maybe the biggest motif in the story- the painting is a metaphor for theos heart and soul. after his mother’s death, he becomes afraid of getting to starched to people, so he hides his painting (his heart) away. only when he shows it to boris it is taken away from him- tying back to a quote from the book, you cannot control who you fall in love with. so maybe boris uses this painting for bad things, but he never intended to lose it, and travels all the way back to theo to make sure it is returned. maybe that can tie into your point of precious people and gifts, but it’s important to note, for i think it also reinforces your point.
Thanks.
Wonderful. I only say i ever will miss the dog and ask me where she could stand. I'm off know somethings
Please review ad Astra
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Please, share with us your opinion concerning Trump's impeachment
Bishop, with all due respect, while I enjoy watching your movie reviews, I wish you would address the events and scandals happening in the Church. It seems kind of odd that someone with a big platform like you would not talk about the troubling events happening in the Church. I wish you would address these troubling events (sex abuse scandal, Amazon synod, etc.) because you are an important voice in the Church with a lot of influence. You might help guide the faithful through this turbulent time.
Come on, friend...I wrote an entire book on the sex abuse scandal, and I’ve produced over eight hundred videos on a wide variety of topics. Look through my library of offerings.
His movie reviews were what intoduced me to his channel and without them i wouldnt have found his videos on catholic doctrine that helpeme on my journey home to the Catholic Church.
WORDONFIRE.ORG...BP. BARRON IS WELL KNOWN FOR HIS COMMENTARIES ON CHURCH MATTERS. Just google his name.
If it's only known that for his Church Jesus is not looking for voices with influence and also that Bishop Barron wouldn't use his voice's influence merely for the sake of it, let alone for parading it.
But interesting to note that the goldfinch is chained...
Art.
Lillie Brownstein,
You have an observing eye. Commendable.
Brothers Karamozov like.
why not just hold on to what you love while you have it and then hold on to the memory when it's gone? why does everything have to be subject to some kind of pay it forward communism where nothing in life can ever really be possessed or enjoyed? i feel like this is one of the destructive things about christianity.
have I been too harsh or too soft on the bishop? If I have been too harsh on the past and you will not see this comment, however harsh I may have been I conveyed the truth, if you can see this comment regardless of who you are please indicate so with a thumbs-up or thumbs-down and or a reply if you feel so inclined to do so. Does the bishop have the Pope's ear? Does the pope have the ear who is those the harm the anointed power, wisdom
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@@marypinakat8594 why do you put a link everywhere?
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What bothers?
Tony Silva,
What maybe the real motive of your comment? Here is a *Movie Review* by Bishop Barron on his own Channel under *Word On Fire ministries.*
If you have had no interest or regard for the content of the video, may I point out that you have been an INTRUDER.
There are videos where Bishop Barron is criticised or attacked exclusively. Please be well-mannered enough to post your comments in one of them. Chances are that they will be replied to.
At one point we see Theo and his friend Boris in bed together holding each other tight. At another point we see the two boys kiss on the lips. I had the impression they were a bit more than just friends. Not that I'm complaining or anything but that didn't seem very Catholic to me.
With all due Reverence to you Bishop Barron. I think getting caught up in reviewing films, seems like playing go the crowd. Ie, those on a more secular footing. These are challenging times for the Church and Society as a whole, I think it's important not to get too caught up in pop culture. Just my humble opinion, I may very well be of the mark..
Art touches human nature and that is universal. This is a means of evangelization.
Worse than off the mark I think. Maybe you could check out what some others have expressed. Thank you.
Nonsense. I could show you reams of emails and letters testifying to the fact that my commentaries on popular culture have brought people back to the Church. I'm not "getting caught up in pop culture;" I'm finding elements of the Gospel in that culture and using these seeds of the Word to re-engage a secular audience.
Why would god give me an abusive mother when Jesus gave himself a perfect mother?
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Just to convey that there's absolutely nothing wrong with the question. There's a mother in the movie's script. The thoughts are only natural.
Do remember to say a prayer.
Griffin Reese
Trusting you're fine.
So Hell doesn't have many souls and any religion can get to heaven even if they don't believe in Jesus? Please Bishop read the Bible . I am praying for you , your ilk , and the Pope,but most of all the Holy church.✝️
My ilk and I thank you...I might ask you to pay a little closer attention to what I’m actually saying. You’re trading in caricatures of my positions.
@@BishopBarron I can't speak for anyone else but I hope you can appreciate that I am legitimately trying my best to understand this issue (and continuing on with the rosary for reconciliation on this topic). I also understand that your position is often caricatured / misrepresented. What I do want to make clear is that as a regular member of the laity this topic is exceedingly difficult for me to grasp given what I've previously understood to be Church teaching (despite having read the “Dare we Hope” FAQ page).This certainly bares repeating and would quell many concerns: “He doesn’t claim to know all people will be saved, nor does he even think or expect that all will be saved. Instead, he merely prays and hopes that all will be saved. It’s critical to make these distinctions.”. However, this section here is problematic for me and I suppose is the crux of the issue: “Catholic doctrine is that hell exists, but yet the Church has never claimed to know if any human being is actually in hell. . . . Is there anyone in this state of being? We don’t know for sure. We are in fact permitted to hope and to pray that all people will finally surrender to the alluring beauty of God’s grace.” We have a well-developed doctrinal understanding or mortal sin as far as I’m aware and it appears well within the realm of certainty (theologically and probabilistically) that many people die in this state. Is it theologically reasonable for all humans with free will to all come to unity with Christ? Given God’s omniscience He knows if any man would die in a state of mortal sin and become a denizen of hell. If no such man exists, then there’s no necessity for hell beyond a mere scare tactic as far as I can tell. I suppose the issue here is what purpose would hell and Jesus’s apparent warning as a legitimate destination have if such a place was empty (I also believe your mischaracterising Fatima)? If we can hope all would be saved who’s to say that any sacrament remains relevant?
I just need to sit with this for longer I guess: "We cannot put limits on divine mercy, nor on the power of God’s grace at the moment of human death.". The more I reflect on this the more I chalk this up to mere misunderstanding which is precisely why a conversation helps sort these things out. Praying for an end to the restlessness.
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Why don't you maintain your own peace by writing Bishop Barron off. He hasn't attempted to impose anything at all on anyone.
Either you have some serious deficiency in your thinking powers or you are driven by some need or desire to malign him. Please choose a wise course.
@@marypinakat8594 I submit that I have a serious deficiency in my thinking powers. Not afraid to admit that. He's not making any imposition. He's making a claim that's confusing to me. No need to make this personal.
Wot? There's a great apostasy happening from the top down in our Holy Mother church, and your talking about fictional books, wot?
What is your understanding of 'apostacy'?
@@marypinakat8594 READ the synod document
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Which Synod?
@@marypinakat8594 very funny.....not
@@caroline-9672
Is there a spelling mistake? It was 'wot'.
Actually Mr. Barron, the message to be gleaned is an athiestic one.
People believe in god so strongly. Its precious, its what they put all their faith in, its what they cling to to remind them of hope and promises of reunity and bliss. But pull away the newspaper wrapping and it didnt matter whether what was inside was actually real, it still comforted you when you needed it. It could be a painting or a book, or laptop, just as your source of meaning could be christianity, or islam, or a pantheon of Norse or Egyptian gods.
Either way people dont use their religions to actually do anything or come to any useful conclusions about the world. It stays in a locker while you use science and reason in your day to day lives and only comes out when someone you love dies or your going through some troubling times.
Well man, that might be your own bleak philosophy, but please don't project it onto the Catholic author of this book!
And does it matter if my philosophy is bleak? Does it matter if yours is fluffy and full of empty promises? We should be searching for truth.
www.biblesociety.org.uk/explore-the-bible/read/eng/RSV/John/1/
This is *Bishop Robert Barron* a Catholic Bishop and not Mr Barron. BTW did you pay attention to the Channel name?
Please, no fangirls. The man can speak for himself.
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