Surface Laptop review: Microsoft takes on the Air
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Him: laptop for every body
Me : i can only dream of having that
Ken Smitsonian it would be a nightmare for me. Joking aside, I'd probably like this if it was free. XD.
Teighlour Swyftte Who wouldn't love it if it was free?
Ken Smitsonian i'll stick with my Mac
Will Work For Dank Memes rip build quality and screen
Ken Smitsonian work hard 💪
The fabric is to prevent the use of the ugly rubber protection around the glass display Apple uses. It prevent the screen from cracking when closed with force of when someone put pressure on it. It serves a function purpose, quite genius actually.
Agree. The Screen is Clean, Edge to Edge.
I don't know what the previous comment was, but From a car perspective that really isn't what alcantara is used for. The material is typically only found in performance cars not for its feel but for its grip strength. It allows seats to grab the driver more in high G turns, you have more grip on the steering wheel. It's not really meant for luxury "fit and feel" purposes. That's why most luxury cars still use leather for their interiors, where that kind of stuff doesn't matter.
The number of people that upvoted you proves that CZcams commenters are idiots. There is still a protective lip around the screen and the fabric most definitely does not serve that purpose.
The fabric will only serve to make sure that the laptop does not stay good looking for all that long, it is a severe durability issue.
Kaledonia23 Have you seen the surface laptop in real life or have you even watch the launch of the laptop. Microsoft have specifically said no rubber protectors around the display and even if you are that stupid and not get you facts straight before commenting. Using the fabric which is similar to the type cover on the surface pro could also help Microsoft built the brand identity for their hardware line. oh and you probably won't know what brand identity is. It is basically the gut feeling you get even without seeing the logo you have that feeling is by a certain brand, like the apple home button. When you see phone on the street with that perfectly round home button you will know is an iPhone without even looking at the logo at the back. It might have some durability issues but their the type cover on the surface pro uses similar fabric and proven to be surprisingly durable.
"You can open it up and unlock it with your face", I never opened my laptop with my face before so that's certainly new!
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I prefer finger print tho.. lol
Sanskar Teotia this is a good comment on that comment on that comment on that comment on that comment on that comment 😂
You had me at "it's more Lamborghini than Porsche"...
The Usb-port on the power adapter is the best feature ever
Oba Obateru yeah, it's nice that they added it. But I still feel they should have added a USB c port or another USB a port on the laptop. Since the battery life of the laptop seems to be so good, I don't think many people will be using the charging adapter while using the laptop.
The reason is because you know the port on the ac adapter is for power and not data. I hate cords that don't specify whether they do data too or if they are thicc enough for quick charge
Oba Obateru how many usb ports are there??
don't use the surface laptop 1 tho the battery life is horrible
@@fireballfurby nonsense
1:08 - wow, I love the flow of your living room.
The Verge has been killing it lately with the reviews. Great job guys...
So my question is, can I use this system to edit CZcams videos at 1080p and does the unit lag overall?
They are giving me this laptop in my new job! Glad its good.
Top quality review. I wish other verge reviewers were like this too.
Are you able to download software and applications to this laptop that are not available in the Microsoft store?
Amazing B-roll there, Loved every aspect of the video including the A-roll information. I Only wish it was all in 4K
Nice review Dieter! I think this will be my choice as a laptop for the next few years.
If alcantara can be on a steering wheel and not wear out why would it on a laptop?
Because the amount of time you use it varies. People often use laptops for long periods of time, 5-6 hours some days, maybe even longer. Alcantara steering wheels are generally found on performance cars, and people certainly don't drive those every day for long periods of time.
Alcantara steering wheels wear out. They’re made for track cars that are meant to be driven with gloves on.
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I've had my Surface Pro 4 with alcantara keyboard for the last 3 years with heavy use. Still looks and feels great! No greasy palm marks like my previous Dell.
The alcantara has worn out a fair bit on mine after two years
is touch screen commercial grade or consumer grade ? If I use this as a no end pos machine will it break?
so what model is the 1769 technically in gen an model name ?? i cant ever find out
That's a heck of a review!
Keep it up The Verge!
Please review the Asus Zenbook 3 Deluxe
So if you upgrade to win 10 pro, how’s the battery going to be. 10hr? 7hr?
I got a refurbished option of the cobalt blue one off Amazon about a year and a half ago and it’s still going strong! Love it
This is my dream computer. Idk if I’ll ever get it though😭
2017: "... But Microsoft thinks USB-C isn't ready for mass adoption yet."
2018: Ha !
Hello, can I put AutoCAD on here that’s like right between video editing and gaming ...
I m a animation student and doing 3d course is surface laptop a good choice for this plzz reply
The i7 version is expensive as hell. I mean the laptop looks amazing and has good build quality but i don't think i can afford that
XPS 13? where does it stand
It's better than both the MacBook Air and the Surface Laptop. Smaller, USB-C, SD card slot, more spec options, you can actually change the SSD inside on your own, etc
AGNIDEV D G P ft the trash can. Ugliest ultra book for the price.
Is it good for programming and for using android studio?
Does this laptop could link to iphone ? . I prefer this one then mac . But i had an i phone
"perfect for everyone" yeah...unless you want more than 1 USB port...
All reviews: this laptop is better then apple.
Also all reviews: I love apple.
If the speakers are under the keyboard, how do you use a keyboard cover without terrible adio?
how do you know when it is fully charged when the laptop is closed?
You forgot that compared to the macbook, THE FACE ID AND TOUCHSCREEN. Apple will never have a touchscreen computer. Maybe one with FACE ID but never wth touch,
this comment held up pretty well, i'd say. i sure didnt think it would.
You didn't tell us about the flex that the Surface's keyboard shell has.
bro the flex is actally good, with a better bottom out, and a more soft and satisfying typing experience.
Did you test the battery life after upgrading to Windows 10 pro? or before?
why making a touchscreen monitor if It continues to move and vibrate every time you touch It?
The lack of USB-C is a huge mistake and probably the only reason I'll stay away from this. If I spend over 1k on a laptop, I expect it to last at least 3 years. already most phones use USB-C, and in the next 2 years there will be much more. They really messed up. I disagree with Apple going full USB-C, but honestly this is just as bad.
They made a USB-C dongle for people like you who must love dongles if you currently use USB-C. This is just petty excuse and microsoft is right, imo USB-C isn't massively adopted yet, especially in countries other than the USA. Hence i think it is totally acceptable decision.
Not a lot of devices are on USB-C yet. So they'll probably add it to the next version or the one after that.
Dave H. most new laptop around €1000 have USB-C. even most new phones come with it. windows even left it out of the updated surface pro.
+frc. I'd rather have three USB C ports than a USB A, power port and display port .
keishton What devices are you plugging in with USB-C?
I just purchased this computer today. My Mac book air 2014 256GB crashed twice. They accused me of water damage both times when I did not have a spill. Its likely condensation which is not my fault. Cost of the second repair is over 1000. The cost of extended coverage for my surface is so much less and guess what, it covers water damage. I took coverage for three years. I spent almost 700 dollars just after 2 years repairing my MacBook Pro, and don't want to spend another 1000 plus for second repair.I hope I will never look back. I am so happy also not to deal with Apple spinning wheel of death anymore.
Donna Bryan Has the laptop held up I really want one but people keep saying it doesn't last for various reasons?
Any update on it pls
Please give us an update!
is there performance differences between 10 and 10s like boot times and load times?
would you recommend this latptop for a engineering student?
Looking forward to USB type c, thunderbolt 3 , rtx 2060 and a selection for 32gb ram for the surface 3
Hmmm, let me convert that USD to CAD....
Yup, I'm out.
Canadian problems
Greg Smith omg brooo facts
don't use the surface laptop 1 the battery life is horrible
does it use an AC power cord like the surface?
I have the Lenovo yoga 910, a 1400$ laptop before it was discontinued. Would this be a downgrade? I like the style but in a simple way.
So,, is no one gonna say sponsored by Microsoft like everybody does on apple videos?
I'd still get the XPS 13
the aspect ratio on this screen is alot nicer tho
Denver Naicker not for media consuption good for reading and work
bimer2000 Agreed. Carbon fiber > fabric
Denver Naicker Yeah, i wish Dell also used a taller aspect ratio.
Don't call that dell plastic carbon fiber :D
U mmm when you did the pan over of the macbook it says MacBook Pro. Not the older MacBook Air.
How many times did you get the blue screen of death during the review?
suddenly all these tech channels uploaded about surface laptop at the same time
Shawn Lee no they were sent a test unit only now
It's 2020 now, I got the entry level one and still loving it! Still the best keyboard on a laptop and the fabric looks as good now as when I got it out of the box 3 years ago. I did get the free upgrade to Windows 10 and yes I did change from a MacBook too... I think you can read the future Dieter... I also still don't really need USB C either lol.
Would you say it's worth buying one now since they're going on sale?
Does the usb on the charger carry data?
is there an i7 processor 8gb ram version there in Cobalt blue
Take a low config laptop
make it look good and twice as expensive as it should be
and microsoft collects the apple users
Surface Studio = iMac
Surface Book = MacBook Pro
Surface Laptop = MacBook Air
Surface Pro = IPad Pro
I.T. Intern I don't agree Surface Laptop= Air, they should compare to
You are one stupid person, surface pro came out before the iPad, if anything, Apple saw that Microsoft were the only ones doing good in the educational tablet and stylus market.
Does it have a back lit keyboard?
Is the windows surface laptop good enough for engineering students, and for the games and video editing stuff?
1300$ could got you a MacBook Pro, so.... compare it to that instead of the Air
yes but the base model have a ridiculous 4 GB of RAM, also the surface pro, have a severe lack of IO. at least MBP 13 have dual Thunderbolt 3 ports. I am not an apple fan, and i still think MBP are expensive of that they offer but the pricing on microsoft laptops is ridiculous. personally, i am not interseted in thin and light device I orient more toward desktop replacemnt, by current laptop that i is an MSI laptop with i7, gtx 1060 3gb and 8 gb of ram for around 1000$ USD
AlohaHawaii Studios they didn’t compare base model. They compared the $1300 model
Sorry but not everyone wants a MacBook Pro or anything related to Apple. Just saying
This is definitely a product made for people who want a Macbook Air but in PC form. Keep in mind also the screen is considerably higher resolution, and touch-capable.
Krighton Fall ironically a lot of people want simplicity with little security risks.
Microsoft should listen to it's customers feedbacks and concern. On the next iteration of this, they should still keep the fabric, but make it an option with a new all Aluminum body. More people would be comfortable on just an all aluminum body
Steven Mancera Microsoft shouldn't have made windows 10 S in the first place
Is the windows upgrade still available
I’m confused. Why do people keep bringing up the usb c or a or whatever? What does that even mean? What’s the difference?
The only windows laptop to come close to a MacBook Air replacement. Yeah right cuz the Dell XPS is a washing machines.
The surface laptops only run Windows 10 S and pro, which is free now, will later become a paid upgrade. The problem with that is that the Windows 10 S OS only runs edge and windows store apps. No chrome, no VLC, and no Steam.
Really love the architecture of the set. There is a way to see more of it?
What is better compared to the surface pro 4?
The CarpetBook.
WTF are you talking about thats recoil.
Why does the screen dangle while writing on it?
is the usb port on the charging brick for power only or can it also transfer data?
Tian Laur ^^^ asking the real questions
My brothers from the Verge have gone full Windows.
Apple fanboys incoming
Take cover. They angry!
James Bonds just like surface users did on iPad reviews
James Bonds Nope, they are sane unlike Android and Microsoft fanboys.
Haha "Sane"..sure :D
the fact that you didn't edit this is great!
huh people always say that yet I dont see apple fans raging on the comments section. y'all must be deluded or what
Why, would I switch, just because it looks better? Windows 10 hasn't changed, so It doesn't matter If someone liked macOS, they won't switch.
since launch it has changed and is continuing to improve, plus a UI update is in the works with Fluent Design which will bring a more dynamic experience to apps that use it
Did you hear about the adapter made for the computer. It comes with a as card reader 2 usb drives and an aux cord dock
Is it good for photo editing??
official twitter app is not a joke. at least explain what do you mean by saying that. is mac app better?
Konstantin Kruglov is it easier than using web browsers? no.
Yes, it is.
I need a different job ;_; at 17, getting $400 a month, it would take me months to have enough for this. well 🤣
what kind of jobs pay u $400 a month
M part time
M or less than part time lol
Contact me, ill help out
Things will get better, don't give up.
So can I run regular exe files or not?
Went to buy the new Mac yesterday but I end up getting this one, I don’t regret it.
"The King of Laptops"
Cpu has not been updated in 3 years. Uses tn screen you would expect on a laptop from 7 years ago. Has terrible io. Is overpriced to the point of ridiculousness. Yeah King of Laptops my arse
An xD meme that's the crazy thing, they were 3 years ahead of their time, you said it yourself😂😂😂
+Damien McCue no, it means they haven't updated the CPU in 3 years. Apple doesn't make their own CPUs, they have to wait until Intel brings out new ones... wtf r u saying lol
Dell XPS 15 is the king for me.
King of laptop doesnt have usb c?!??!!? Lolll
No USB-C or SD card slot. Wow, choke
buy a mac..
They do. MacBook and MacBook Pros have USB-C and the MacBook Air has an SD Card slot.
Ayush Pandey Ummm have you been living under a rock for a year? The Macbook 2015+ and Macbook Pro 2016+ are often bashed for ONLY having USB-C... Pretty much the first computers to get them... And the Macbook Air and all other macs have SD card slots.
So you're just, well, wrong. The world is turning towards USB-C and Microsoft's blatant ignorance of this have cost them my purchase. And probably many/most tech heads too.
Thomas Woodfield You just said Macs were bashed for only having USB C ports then say the world's turning towards USB C.......where? Microsoft had surveys done, not much people care for USB C as you think, so there's nothing ignorant in their decision.
Rondel Moore How could anyone not care for a port so universal, flexible and mighty. Most people are not aware of what it can do.
Just purchased on for 375 I5 Core and love it.
Is it a back lit keyboard?
I don't understand why there is a touchscreen:
First, using a trackpad instead of touch feature is much faster.
Second, you cannot rotate the screen or separate the keyboard to get a tablet.
So, it has to be really unusual and weird to use a touchscreen for anything there. It is just uncomfortable and ineffective.
SKITHUK taking notes with the pen or scrolling on a webpage among many other conveniences
using a touchscreen is infinitely more intuitive and faster than a touchpad, I own an xps 15
I own a HP x360 and it's touchscreen. I only have touchscreen because I do a lot of drawing on my computer, but other then that I think it's a waste of time unless you can afford insurance since the screen is more delicate and if you were to drop it or just end up breaking the screen the laptop would be completely ruined.
SKITHUK for pinching
no usb type c = no buy. I want a laptop that will still have ports that are relevant in 2-3 years time.
Thats why I buy razer laptops. It has current and future IO while still having great IO.
USB-C has been out since 2014. That's more than three years already. The only ones pushing it are Apple and its from a position of arrogance. They have a history of pushing certain IO that suits their agenda whether we want it or not and many of those times they have been a failure. Thunderbolt... Apple barely even stocked Thunderbolt drives in their own stores.
A better question would be will the normal USB still be around in 3 years? Absolutely.
Microsoft is adopting type C now with the Surface Book 2, anyways expect to see the next Surface devices (Surface Studio, the under wraps foldable, next gen Surface Pro and Laptop etc.) come with USB-C like the SB2
USB-C is in most new Android phones.
As for Apple having "a history of pushing certain IO that suits their agenda whether we want it or not"-- here's a fun fact: Apple pushed the then-struggling USB-A in 1998 with their iMacs, popularizing it and causing it to spread throughout the industry.
Maybe you don't know what you want.
Cause relevance is all that matters! I am an Apple fan, all I care about is relevance, and the more expensive but relevant ports are better, because relevance is what keeps me going, I'm an iSheep.
Why do you need twitter app when you have twitter in the browser?
Can I still upgrade to Windows 10 Home for free?
Surface laptop review, starts to review a MacBook
These guys can't review anything without saying Apple something
Yeah, it's like if someone is buying a thin laptop, clearly no other companies exist that make those, why mention them!
Yeah, who reads a review because they want to buy something! What a crazy idea, thanks for clarifying how the world works in your head.
Yasin Rhodes because Apple is the benchmark of premium
Like it or not, Apple is industry standard. Some things are better than standard, others are worse. But regardless, Apple is an easy point of comparison that most people will understand.
Slayer1111111111able pretty much this. Everyone knows what a MacBook is
Can you do efficient coding on this thing?
Guys I plan on getting a good laptop that can do a lot of things and I'm not sure which one to get. Can you guys help me?
No thunderbolt 3 or even usb c for the price, wow
ya, I would just get a Razer or an XPS 13 which has both better IO, real specs, and are incredibly thin and light, and cost a comparable amount.
Elliott Pol But theyre so much more expensive, well in australia
In the US I just bought a like new razer blade stealth with the QHD screen and i7 for 600.
So Apps on Windows Store are still weak just like Mobile.. heh
What is weak is the Mac store, weaker than the MacOS..heh
With their latest development model, developers just need to design one app for all Windows 10 devices. UWP apps will run on Desktop, Mobile, the Surface Hub, and the HoloLens. The developers are stupid to not develop for Windows; that's hundreds of millions of devices they're missing out on.
But its not hundreds of millions of users IN the actually store. Most Windows-users never open the Store, because they are still used to install programs from EXE.files.
Which brings us to Windows 10 S. Your comment is the exact reason why they locked the Laptop down to the Windows Store
No, the apps in the Windows store are really good. I have no clue to what he's talking about with that one. I use it everyday and have no issues.
I want to find a 2 in 1 laptop (preferably AROUND 13 inches, not too big. Also preferably not with a detachable keyboard) that I can use for pretty much entirely art, but basic laptop needs and maybe some basic gaming as well. I would really prefer it to be less than $900, but maybe $1000 if necessary (I really don't wanna go as high as 900 tbh because... money. So I'm also good with the $600 range.) Any suggestions? I was going to try a Dell Inspiron but I have heard mixed reviews.
any app for *the verge* for iOS ?
Those criticising Verge for calling MacBook Air King of Laptop, please stfu. Why do you think Apple keeps selling them if nobody wanna buy them? They still sell although they're 7 years old! Tell me a laptop that could survive that long.
Charles Xavier MacBooks. And that's kind of the point. And the king of Notebooks right now is the MacBook Pro.
Apple Apple yeah sure if you say so.
Charles Xavier So... why are shitty trap artist rich? Because they make good music? no it's because people like what's mainstream.
Antro Daze You think MacBook Air is mainstream? Lol
***** Stop spouting nonsense. Apple hasn't upgraded their MBA since 2010. Lenovo has upgraded Thinkpad mercilessly every year.
Why compare it to the MacBook Air? The same price gets me the entry level MacBook Pro with higher clocked processors, twice the RAM, better graphics and honestly much preferred aluminium built instead of this alcantara thing. Oh, and yeah, USB-C. So who would have thought, but Apple is the MUCH better value for money here.
Because Macbook Pro is thin and light relatively speaking but isn't in the thin and lightweight class of laptops that sacrifice performance for form-factor. It'd be like comparing a phone to a tablet. They have different goals. You can get an iPad for like $350 that severely outperforms a $600-700 iPhone but the increase cost in the iPhone comes from its ability to pack that much power in such a small form-factor.
The $1299.99 model of the Surface Laptop has 8GB RAM, 256GB SSD and an i5 processor. Pretty much the same specs except for the GPU which is, I agree with you, better. But still, some people like Windows more, and these people don't like a locked-down OS like the MacOS. And almost forgot, it's not the dongle life for Surface Laptop users as much as it is for Macbook users, so they have to pay more for peripherals. And you liking Aluminum is your opinion. So in conclusion, fanboy much?
Because we're comparing using form factor, not price. The reason this costs more is because they have to pack the tech into a very thin form factor. Using a similar argument to you, you can find a laptop with an i7, 16GB of ram, and a gtx 1060 with all the bells and whistles for cheaper than this laptop. You can't compare the two because they are for completely different markets.
Hamad Alsayed There’s nothing “locked down” about macOS. You’re confusing it with iOS. You can install whatever the hell you want on macOS. You have the power of the terminal at your disposal. Even Steam is available. You should try it. It has the stability of Linux but with proprietary software and you can dual boot Windows or run it in a VM with the benefit of the superior force touchpad. There is no wasting time running Windows Update and rebooting all the time. No AV software using resources.
Comparing I/O is even more ridiculous. Do you have any idea how versatile TB3 (40Gbps) with USB-C is? On my 15” MBP I can drive 2 5K displays or 4 4K displays if I want. I can also hook up dual eGPUs. It has USB 3.1 gen 2 (10Gbps), HDMI, TB2, DisplayPort and you can charge the machine from any port on either side. There are very few machines out there with all of this capability.
Native USB-C external hard drives/SSDs and flash drives have been available for a while now and new peripherals are being released all the time. For the iPhones there is a lightning to USB-C cable. Eventually everything will be USB-C. Not only is it more versatile but it’s also reversible. You’ll never have to make sure you’re plugging it in the right way again. While not every machine needs to have 4 TB3 ports, a good notebook should have at least 1. USB-C doesn’t mean TB3 btw. For example the 12” MacBook with USB-C doesn’t have TB3 and its single port is only capable of USB 3.1 gen 1 (5Gbps). USB-C is a port that will definitely be around for a long time like HDMI has been for all A/V equipment.
Don't forget macOS which is way better than Windows in all possible ways.
what about 2018 MacBook Air vs Surface Laptop?
I am so excited i am getting this used laptop from my brother in the usa as we speak really excited to use this laptop as i have a bulky gaming laptop already. This will really help during college work and coding easy to carry around! Yayay
macbook air, basically the king of laptops. What?
Axel sypkens smit yeah i call BS on that too, ever since the retina pro's came out it's definitely not been the unequivocable king - even among macbooks
its just because of the price. Easily the most affordable mac, and since many consumers consider Windows to be just for gaming, they just buy the most affordable mac. And it does all the basics, extremely well for the price. Only the screen is a bit sub par.
Still has the best battery life by a good margin.
It's the most popular one. The 13" Air with 128GB is still Apple's highest selling laptop, and the one you'll see most often in the wild. It's a known quantity, so it's a common yardstick for comparison.
it´s got low res TN panel screen,let me repeat that , TN panel, unacceptable for it s price.
Is it a review or advertisement?
i like how you need someone to tell you because you literally can't decide.
Mohammad Riyaz it's the same in all their Apple videos too.
hey Verge, quick question. HP or Surface?
Sure, it doesnt have graohic card but do you really need it?