Why we forget the early years of life | Charan Ranganath and Lex Fridman
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Charan Ranganath is a psychologist and neuroscientist at UC Davis, specializing in human memory. He is the author of a new book titled Why We Remember.
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Guest bio: Charan Ranganath is a psychologist and neuroscientist at UC Davis, specializing in human memory. He is the author of a new book titled Why We Remember.
Trauma as a word for having your model of the world broken actually feels like it has some merit
The body, we know, remembers. Implicit Memories are bodily sensations which are stored and often re-experienced in the absence of imagery and sound. Somatic memory precedes Semantic memories to share, and one's adaptations to avoid the somatic, leads to all manner of addictions and/or "mental illness." We're a disembodied lot, we are.
I actually think there is a connection between motor control/learning language and the ability to recall memories. After your born the two most important things to develop is memory of how to physically move and memory of language. Because those pathways can be laid and largely left unchanged they do but it takes time, afterwards the brains ability to form patterns and memories remains. So essentially the brain is trying to optimize pathways and predict the future like it did with language and movement.
Since the input from our main senses like vision,smell, hearing etc are highly unpredictable the brain begins optimizing memories for the rest of our lives in an attempt to predict everything, which it will never be able to do so it continues to form memories until we die or its ability to do it is stunted by disease.
Try telling that to Terrance Howard he remembers coming out of the womb apparently.......
Stephen Fry says he does too. After emerging from the birth canal he says he looked back at 'it' and said to himself, 'I'm never going up one of those things again!"
@@gdok6088except i am pretty sure Stephen Fry was joking, Terrance Howard very much wasn't.
Damn, it all makes sense now.
I know several people that remember being in the womb supposedly, I know someone who remembered a past life when they were a young child but now don’t remember anything as an adult
@@lgroots8691you know people who claim they do.
My earliest memories are fragmented memories from 3-4 years old, so this goes exactly with my experience lol.
That insight about the trauma kids get was Grime's thoughts. It actually made me like her. It was mind blowing tbh. You'd never think of that.
Lex should have a kid. It is super fun to watch and help their brains kick on.
Until a child truly understands the concept of "me", there exists no reason to hold on to memories in that way.
I remember from the time my each individual atom formed in different parts of the universe.
Would it be a good thing if we had access to these memories?
Here's a strange one: I'm over 50 and have been getting random flashbacks of when I was around 1 or 2 years old where, I remember the the first time I experienced certain mundane things e.g, seeing the outside, seeing roads, travelling in a car, etc.
I even remember lying awake in my cot and just observing the room.
It's a fleeting moment but it feels amazing. Makes me want to relieve my younger years just to experience the initial wonder of discovering the world for the first time again...
Well at that age there is no self awareness so likely the child isn't capable of feeling trauma. What appears to be emotions in babies is just an evolutionary survival trait.
@@justjaay1203 Can confirm. My one memory before age two I wasn't self aware. I could only feel and react. There wasn't emotion, purely just the intention to survive.
I have a lot of memories from the age of 3
Well, it might not be so usefull, in a time where
lot of new experiences is in focus.
In the first years its normal that, fragments of earlier
experiences appear in our Day-Consciousness.
At 2½ year I had a vision of Holland, lighted by
the word Holland, in a emotional vocal.(1956)
I'd wanted to tell about it, but 'had no language'.
and thought that 'they' may not understand it.
I dont think that I have a good memory,
but I can remember periods, marked by
different places that I lived, different periods,
and can recall a lot of content.
40 years back i'd realized, that I havent eat meat for long time,
and was able to reconstruct what I'd eat every day in a month,
I dont think I can do today.
Also have the experiences, that a smell can recall a memoire,
and opposite, a memoire can recall a smell.
At 3½ I'd recognized the smell of fox, long before I saw a fox,
the connection smell/fox and the word fox, could only be from
the fairytales in child-books.
If a hare experience a new smell, it make a synaps, so it can recognize
again, it is all stored in the Memory-Body, fourth Deep-Sleep.
Memory is our Highest ability in Consciousness, it bring Us from word to word,
from day to day, from Life to Life, from Developing-Circuit to
Developing-Circuit.
All our memory, will become Gold-Copies, essense of our journey
through Life and Development.
Well, Memory is Not in the brain, Only the connection to Memory.
Due to actual physical/physiological trauma to my brain, I have a very fragmented memory before about 10.
I'm guessing I didn't miss much.
Unless you’re Terrance Howard
Oh Terrance knows all. Lmfao.
Early development sets the neural pathway "roots", it seems...
I remember my Donald duck 5th bday party.
Terrance Howard enters the chat
i can remember many things from the time just before i turned 1 year old
Factually untrue. It’s an imaginative fallacy. That’s okay though, none of us do. You may recognize feelings or emotions that you felt way back when, but the memory itself is imaginatively reconstructed.
@@blake8510 I clearly remember very specific events including my first birthday party. I remember receiving the Worlds of Wonder lazer tag set from a family friend who did not realize i was too young for it. I have many other clear memories from that time. I have met people who have memories from as early as a few months old. If that makes you jealous or makes you feel inferior, i'm sure a bunch of other things do as well. Just don't think for a second that what your young children see you do is guaranteed to be forgotten.
@@yanwain9454
This phenomenon is known as “infantile amnesia.” Several factors contribute to this:
1. Brain Development: The hippocampus, a critical region for memory formation, is not fully developed in infants. This underdevelopment hampers the ability to form long-lasting memories.
2. Language Development: Memories are often tied to language. Since infants lack developed language skills, their ability to encode and recall experiences is limited.
3. Sense of Self: A coherent sense of self typically develops around age two. Memories are often anchored in this self-concept, which is not yet fully formed in infants.
While some studies suggest that implicit memories (like emotional responses or procedural memories) can form before age one, explicit, autobiographical memories from this period are exceedingly rare and often unreliable.
-ChatGPT
@@yanwain9454 BS you would have to know what a 'worlds of wonder lazer tag set' was before recollecting it. And people knowing things with structure at months old, again BS. you are basically talking about built memories, others telling you stories or showing pictures, video and you building false memories.
@@blake8510it is not factually untrue. but okay, go off because you cant remember things.
I was a happy baby
Given the propensity for art imitating life, and vice versa. I’m not comforted by the timeline of the topics here, despite having the upmost respect for the family lineage of the author of this channel… I’m nevertheless a little traumatized by the trajectory of the topics, in the order of their release & as the cadence of the context continues its trajectory towards an extinction event becomes more apparent. Look at it. You’ll see. The same information we’re finding on the walls of caves, in the Amazon, etc… is being documented & presented to the ether. So the next ones will have the information. Like orcas passing on information. We’re just doing it like this.
If you start talking about how to survive in a post nuclear environment I might throw a full blown temper tantrum & start crying.
I’m sure that’ll help. Lol. I just don’t know wtf else to do tbh. Not that there’s anything one person can.
I had a headache for a month , and tried everything to alleviate it. Went to bed with, woke up with it. Fasting helped somewhat but it wasn't until I linked it to the memory of being born through the birth canal that it went away. I believe it was the buried memory of my birth, I am grateful to have survived it.
And yes afterward I began a binge of information seeking with focus on growing emotionally and spiritually taking lots of healthy risks new friendships etc. 😂❤
Have you heard of Yeshua Hamashiach?? 😉
I haven't. I remember 75% from age 4.
Ummm...how about, "Because it was a long time ago"? Jesus. You guys overcomplicate everything. And by the way, I have plenty of episodic memories from that period of life.
Not everyone forgets their early years. I remember back to when I was one, maybe one and a half. Vividly, like it happened yesterday. Details and all.
That man doesn't know.
Palestinians attacked israel, not the other way around. Like they always have.
and some people claim to have memories from being in the womb.
@@Iwantalloftheinformation I don't have any of that but I'm not going to say is impossible because I don't know. I just know what I remember. I can tell my family specifics, including conversations. I've always had a good memory. If I write something down I can go back and read it in my mind's eye just as if I was reading it from paper. It's a blessing and a curse.
You think you have a photographic or eidetic memory? My memory is shit.