Most down to earth, straight shooting audio reviewer on CZcams to date. Just a guy being honest about one of his passions and communicating this in a way that most guys just being honest about a passion would. The lack of big brand or sponsor manipulation is very much the cherry on top.
I have 4 of these. I also found these to be a little thin in the bass. When I started to get closer to reference level, the bass got muddy. I pulled the drivers and packed the cabinet with double polly fill on all the walls. The bass tightened up, and the mids came to life.. These now sound much more refined..
Just gotta give some props to this guy; Never seen a channel host respond to virtually every question .. thoroughly, thoughtfully, and with follow ups. Amazing. Randy, you're really a star, and fully deserve all success coming your way. Respect.
@@cheapaudioman beware the trolls! There's not many though I noticed. just really impressed with your correspondence, and professionalism .. you really do deserve all the good things coming your way. Best Regards, from UK (thanks for the reply)
@@petergarner1971 Personally, I have to wonder how often Randy has to take a deep breath and hold his tongue. He doesn't deserve some of the assholery he gets at times.
I subscribed. I like your straight forward casual approach with out razzmatazz or gimmicks. It’s good to hear your opinions in the moment without too much prep. Thanks
Hey Randy. Love your channel! I got a deal I think you'd like two years ago on a pair of Klipsch R-26F floorstanders that I'd had my eye on anyway. At the time they weren't the latest or greatest in their line but the specs seemed a good fit for what I wanted. Anyway this seller on Amazon had them on sale at $219 each but the day I happened to see them it said 50% off.....so basically got the pair BOGO. With tax $233 for the pair! Love a good deal.
I recently pick up a pair of 51s I have it hooked up to Yamaha s301 with a old Yamaha sw60 subwoofer excellent combo set up after speaker break in. van halen,megadeth,Holdsworth all sound great👊
They are very good and I’m very happy you enjoy them. If you’re running a sub with these it will really fill out the lower end and sound very balanced.
Would you recommend these for playing vinyl records of rock, metal, and hip hop set up on an entertainment center about 5 feet from the couch/ chair? If not, any recommendations?
can these be used as good satellite speakers placed to the sides of my sofa facing towards me while i have the rp 600m 2 and a nice center up front or is that overkill?
I have the powered version of these along with the r-100sw subwoofer. They sound pretty good. This was my first time buying a "real" sound system, and through these I've realized that I've only scratched the surface of the audio world. There are so many brands and options out there. It will be fun to explore more, but in the meantime I'll be putting some more mileage on what I've got so far. Gotta wait until my wallet is a bit thicker before I make any next steps.
With a sub and the R51's I think you'll be hard pressed to get anything significantly better for less than $300 for a pair of passive bookshelfs. I'm sure it sounds incredible.
@@user-xg6zz8qs3q that may be true. Regardless, it will be a few years before I even consider any sort of upgrade. I’ll see if anything tempts me at that point.
@@cheapaudioman I have these r51m on order. Debating if I should return them for either the keff q150 or klipsch rp500m or maybe the 600. how would the r51m with an added subwoofer compare to the rp600. I would also be using these to build a 5.1 system for movies and games. Do you have any opinion on how the reference series compares to the reference premiere as in a home theater standpoint? Thanks. Side not I currently have the Sony core series tower speakers and find them a little dull. They just seem like there missing the exitement which is why I went with the klipsch reference series I did hook the Sony bookshelf’s up to a 70s pioneer sx450 I have and found the sound stage to sound way better than the towers. Not sure if it’s the different receiver I’m using or a tower vs bookshelf thing. I Will have to try the bookshelfs with the Sony reciever I’m using with the towers.
great review man, i have the Klipsch R-51PM that i use with my pro - ject debut carbon record player and i love those speakers, i wanted to get a cheaper version for some other stuff as well :) subbed
i bought these at 210. from best buy in January and feel i got a great deal. i am an old audiophile guy who has heard most speakers of merit since the 60's. I have owned over 25 and have never found greater value than these 51's by Klipsch. I had a more expensive pr of Klipsch that was using and when i heard the 51's switched the old speakers to movies and created a new system for vinyl. i use a Marantz 5005 amp and a Rega p3 and my old and new vinyl never sounded better. these speakers are a good buy at 300. a pr.
Tom I bought my component system in the heyday of vintage audio, mostly phase linear stuff, but my all-time favorite speakers were the HPM 100s from Pioneer. I had owned JBLs and Kenwood, Sony, Sansui, JVC, Marantz and Sherwood but the HPM 100s were hands down my favorite. I can't say they don't make them like they used to because I know nothing of current speaker offerings (I'm a headphone only guy) but in the early and mid seventies, the market was flush with some of the best ever built. I pretty much trust Randy to guide me should I ever consider standing speakers again.
Well due to the fact that this video is one year old, I am not going to feel so bad beings I just bought these speakers the other day for $225 so I’m gonna tell myself I feel good that it’s not a bad price due to inflation,still waiting for them to arrive I made my decision partially based on your other review that you speak about in this which I had watched last week when you say a good rock speaker, that’s music to my ears, I will be purchasing them as side surround in my home theater system that I’m trying to put together which I am utilizing Klipsch towers, centers with same woofer tweeter combo and week on base is fine as my spl100 should handle that. And because I already have them. Fluance bipoles for rear speakers. Thanks for your review. It helps to hear a review from someone that likes the same style music, some might hear the bad in this review I only heard the good hopefully they will work out well in my system
So I'm slumming at yard sales a couple of months ago and stopped at a place that had a lot of stereo stuff on the tables. They had an older sixty dollar Sony receiver with these speakers for 100 bucks. I got them down to 85 dollars and got it loaded into my car before they realized their mistake. I gave this system to my daughter and when I went over after she set it up, I was mega impressed with the sound. I had flirted with Klipsch speakers when stationed in Germany but never bought any. I was impressed at how such an inexpensive speaker could sound so good. I now understand what they mean by the Klipsch sound.
@cheapaudioman, can I get your take on this? I'm a little new to audio and surround sound systems, and just made a few purchases to set up a new system in a house I'm moving into. Best Buy had a bunch of Klipsch speakers on sale last week, so I went with the RP-600M for front L&R, R-34-C as center channel, R-100SW 10" sub, and these R-51M as my L&R surround. Do you think these R-51M will do well in the side L&R positions as part of this 5.1 setup for general tv, movie and music listening? I know a lot may be dependent on the room, which is a medium to large living room and kitchen combined area, but overall what do you think about using a speaker like this not as the main L&R in front but to the side as the L&R surrounds in a 5.1 setup? Any thoughts are appreciated, thanks.
I know this is late but I've been into audio for a very long time most important speakers is the center channel then your mains your mains are only important if you listen to music if you are 50/50 with music and home theater towers are a must you don't technically need towers if you have a subwoofer but since it's only 1 10inch sub then I'd still go with towers I run 2 10inch subs that being said surrounds only does special effect noises honestly nothing worth spending $300 dollars or more for unless you want everything to match and look good but if you don't care about that surrounds speakers don't need to be the best but klipsch r51 are excellent for surrounds if you are struggling with dialog it will be your center its a fine center that you have but since you have rp600 towers they are alot stronger so it can drown out the dialog from center because the center plays like 80% of all dialog I'd really recommend to match center with mains the very best set up the mais and center should be the exact same speaker
@@bumkrilla5339 Thanks, as it turns out, these Klipsch R51s are good for my left and right surrounds, even if they're a little more than needed for that. I got them at such a good sale price from Best Buy that it didn't make sense to go with smaller speakers that would have cost more in those positions. But I definitely agree with you on the importance of the center channel speaker - at least that's what I've learned from using my new setup, and if I upgrade anything it will be my center channel. I've had times where the dialogue level for tv and movies doesn't seem to be as good it should be. Hasn't been that noticeable, but there are times I thinks its been an issue. I've really liked the RP600s at front left and right positions. I also bought a second sub, so the two 10" subs and the rest of the setup really rocks when I'm turning up the music. Thanks for your feeback, I really agree with you about the center channel.
Could you do a B&W M1 satellite speaker review ? Its been listed at 250 per speaker but is now at 210 per speaker. What are your thoughts and what's it best for say compared to the Klipsch R51M or what does it compare best with?
i wanted to get these but i listen trance, hip-hop, etc and i play games so i need some bass. in my country these cost a bit over $200. is there an alternative until $300? can't go higher and i have an 8ohm amplifier.
Hey there! I'm looking for speakers that will perform well with my current setup... could anyone help me? I have an Audiotechnica AT-LP120X turntable + Yamaha A-S301 as the amplifier. This comparison might seem obvious, but I'm torn between those speakers and Elacs Debut 2.0 B6.2. Which ones should I go for? Also, I have to mention that I listen to R&B and Vocal Pop, and that my room is quite small. Any help is highly appreciated!
@@jamescamarillo6064, I had a some entry cheap level towers Polk t50 I think, I replace them with this 51 and what a difference, way better. Now they are my rear surround since I got the 820 klipsch towers.
2 Questions, if I may: 1. In Spain (where I am), I'm getting these for about EUR180 - is it worth that price? (things are usually more expensive here than in the US; for context, the sony ss-cs5 is available for EUR200.. and I have seen the 'under 200' vid too, btw). 2. I am planning to pair this with the DENON AVR-S650H (at EUR 420 in Spain) (and potentially grow into a larger set of speakers for a 5.1 setup).. do you think that's a good pairing / direction? Thanks! - love your content, btw - thanks for putting it out for the youtube world!
You're splitting hairs between these and the Sony's so I'd go with which ever is cheaper and more readily available. Thanks for watching, my Spanish friend.
I've been considering these for a starter setup for my tv. I'd use them for watching movies and listening to music on Spotify through a chromecast. What would be a good budget amp for them? I'm looking for value for my money, but I don't know what I should look for in an amp. I'll probably pair them with a small sub too sometime down the road. Any tips?
Do you want a remote? and will you be hooking up anything other inputs. How does the chromecast hook up? Via HDMI I suppose or does it have an analog output?
@@cheapaudioman I don't care about a remote since it'd only be plugged into one device (TV). The chromecast is via HDMI, so it uses the same output as the TV.
@@cheapaudioman As cheap as I can get away with honestly. How much of a difference is there in sound quality between the price ranges? I'm looking for as much bang for my buck as possible, but I know absolutely nothing about audio gear and the information I find online is very conflicting. I appreciate the help!
@@dr-funk you can tell a bit of a difference between a $100 amp and a $400 and then a $1000. Check out the Fosi audio amp review I just did and then the connect a sub to anything video. They might help
Yes, they do open up great after break in but dont expect a ton of bass from them. I have them hooked up to an EQ and I can really get these to push some bass and they have no problem handling it.
I think we all respect your thoughts and opinions for the most part. It’s the condescending tone and my farts don’t smell delivery that is the turn off.
can you recomend a pair of speakers under 400 dollars suitable for metal and rock? i like the little boosted low and high frequencies and soft warm mids...
@@cheapaudioman have you any idea about the dali spector 2? I've seen your review on the spector 1 but here in greece the spector 2 are 200€ and they seem bargain.
8:44 Blasphemy! But in seriousness, this is one of the defining reasons I purchased these speakers was detail without being picky about tow-in, along with small enough dimensions for sitting where the old ones were (2 ft clearance on either side of a 27" CRT TV). Six months later and I'm still perfectly content with them, a fine pair of speakers for $200 CAD and change. They even pull music duty on occasion.
I learned that most of the complaints about these speakers were from people placing them in way too big environments. My daughter made the same mistake with these speakers. These are made for more intimate spaces, so if you are trying to make them work in a cavernous room, of course you are going to be disappointed. Not the fault of the speaker. Of course, that's how you learn. You should see the amount of money I spent on headphones without really doing proper research. I spent thousands before I discovered a three hundred set of Airmotivs sounded pretty much as good, if not better than the Audeze.
If that is an option and fits within your budget I wouldn’t think twice about returning for the 600m’s. I just did a review of them yesterday. If you go to my page it should be the second video. Speakers are rarely twice as good as others but in this case the RP600’s are every bit twice as good.
@@cheapaudioman Right on man. Yeah I watched your review of them. Thanks for the response. If your able I'd really like your opinion on the Cambridge Audio AXA35. I just picked it up and I think it's an amazing budget option. I paired it with a aptx bluetooth 5.0 receiver from Best Buy. It sounds amazing streaming Amazon Music HD. I can't wait for how it will sound with the 600m's. Keep up the great reviews man.
@@EXT3RMIN8R I looked hard at the cambridge before I pulled the trigger on the Denon PMA600NE which I then returned for the Emotiva TA-100. If you're streaming Amazon HD (That's what I use) you may want to consider the Topping BC3. It's an LDAC BT receiver for about 60-70 bucks. Also, what kind of phone or tablet are you streaming from. The link to my review on that is czcams.com/video/8kf7GbUfqmU/video.html . AptX won't get the most out of your Amazon HD subscription. Also, if you're using an Apple device youre limited to AAC. Let me know if you have any questions. I'll be happy to help.
@@cheapaudioman I was looking at the PMA600NE as well. My buddy has an amazing set up with an older Cambridge. I'll check it out for sure. I have a Oneplus 8 it has bluetooth 5.1 with atpx. I will for sure that's the same price as the BT receiver I got from best buy. The DAC on it seems alright. If the Topping is better I'll got for that. I've heard good things aside from you just now. lol That's great man thanks for the help as I'm sure you know there is sooo much information and so many subjective opinions it's hard to determine. Thank god we can return and exchange things. I got the Cambridge from a local hifi store in Seattle they have a great upgrade policy too. Pretty good little shop. Where are you out of?
Bought these from Best Buy open box a year ago for $184. I like them but I have a Bic America F12 sub to help out with the base. Saving my pennies for a RP-600M or equivalent.
You mention returning what you can... if you ever have some Klipsch that you can't return, or wanna sell.... or even others for that matter.... do you sell them to rotate in others for testing and comparison....? Some of the people drawn to your channel, especially due to the name of the channel, would probably buy stuff when you're done testing it .... if you have anythung currently for sale, hit me up or let me know where it is listed.... Thanks again for the videos.... I am now looking at a different approach....hope to have a basic 5.1 AVR shortly, and am looking into the best 5.1 speakers I can get, even if that means building a system in steps, to end up with a better system in the long run....vs compromising on all the compinents to buy it all sooner...
Yeah dude I wouldn't pay $290 for these either but then I try to never pay full price for anything. So why didn't you post a link so we can get in that Deal of $140 ?!? I own a 2 pairs of Klipsch the r-84 and The r48 floor standers . Although I like them I wouldn't say I love them I was never blown away and those I paid 1/2 price at $500 a pair there's no way in hell I would have felt happy or satisfied at 500 a piece to be honest the only pair of speakers that I can say I've been impressed with (as far as budget speakers) are my jbl170 arena speakers and those were half price as well at $300 a pair ! I might ad that these were promo code Deals from Fry's! End of an era 😫 God bless them! So many great deals!
I recently bought a pair of these for ~150$ and the Sony SS-CS5’s for ~125$ upon your recommendation very happy with them both 😊thanks for your reviews
I have them connected to 5.1 AVR with a Sony Ss-CS8 Center and a Klipsch 10” Subwoofer. This Klipsch and Sony setup complements each other very well. I like them both about the same and would buy the one that is the best price at the time.
I would wait for the Sony’s to go on sale … last price I saw was $199, the Klipsch have been holding Steady at $159, at least where I shop … also of note: The Klipsch RS 600M’s have come all the way down to $339, at least that was the price I paid new. This is due to the RS 600M II’s being released …
This sale price places these in the same range as the Micca RB42's which I have been eyeing for a while now. Have you listened to the Micca's as well? I would be interested in hearing how they might compare to one another. Thanks for the review, just subbed!
I actually just got the Micca MB42X and have been listening to them for the last couple of days. The only concern I have with these is their driver size and I would assume the same holds true for the RB42's. They do sound good for their size. Quite good actually. If you're thinking about anything other than a desk top setup or a small room I'd probably point you to the Klipsch or the Sony SSCS5. Or look hard at the Klipsch RP400m. They're $230 right now.
@@cheapaudioman I took a look at the MB42X as well, however, the RB42 does a much better job on the lows as I understand and makes for a better reference speaker as it does not color the sound as much as the MB42X. But, they also cost more. They look as if they use the same tweeter. I will be using whatever speaker I end up going with for near-field listening on my office desktop. I am currently reconditioning a Technics SL-D3 turntable that I will have hooked up through phono preamp into a budget tube amp to drive the speakers.
@@cheapaudioman Thanks! Keeping an eye on their price to see if they drop for the holidays. Will also keep looking out for a good price on the Klipsch RP400m, saw the deal on Amazon for them but only comes in black finish and was hoping for a walnut one.
Really hard to compare those two options, as they are entirely different and would really be for entirely different people or uses. I wouldn't say either option is better than the other, it's too much of an apples to oranges comparison.
They were on sale for $144 around the end of October. They'll go down to that level again. Klipsch's retail pricing is literally a joke. They never adhere to it and there stuff is almost always on sale.
Great review. I am just comparing jamo s803 vs klipsch r41m. Jamo is more base, less middle, less loud. Klipsch are more bright. Actually it seems like the mid range on the Jamo is totally pushed back.
Couple different ways. You could get a 2 channel receiver or integrated amp with a subwoofer out and hook it up that way. Other option is to find a subwoofer with “speaker level inputs” and connect the speakers out of your amp to the sub and then the speakers would hook up to lines out of your sub. Most subwoofers have a speaker level input.
@@OOnti-dz4jd I think the Q’s are better balanced. I don’t have any time with the 3020i just the 3020. If you can afford them I’d go with either the 3020 or the 3020i. They have much better bass even though they’re not rated as low as the Klipsch. And better balanced and clearer highs
@@OOnti-dz4jd I think there is a decent little Denon 5.1 or 5.2 on sale under $300. AVR540BT and then tberes a Sony 2 channel for about $130. Personally I’d go for the 5 channel and that way you could do home theater as well. It also has audessey room correction that is pretty handy
I have these. Im loving them. Im coming from some Edifier powered 4" that did sound good. But these are way better. Not the best out there Im aware of. But they sound awesome for me.
@@codychavarria6088 I’d love to get a hold of a pair but I have to build up the channel a bit to convince people to send things to me. I’ve heard good things about the Bro2 and 3
@@cheapaudioman i found another big boy: Klipsch Reference RB-81 II. i can have one for the price of two r51m. seems like a better choice than rp600m. what do you think?
If you’re just doing music or even if you want to run your tv look at the SMSL sa300, topping mx3. They both have sub outs and built in dacs to run your tv into. Also both support Bluetooth and a rca input. Great and affordable
@@cheapaudioman ok so you would recomend that over an AV reciever even if im willing to spend around 300 for a receiver? im looking for home theater and music. i have 2 r-51m and also some polk surround and bass, and klipch speakers i found at the local thrift store, trying to create a frankenstein system that is worth half a crap just for fun.
Man you are forcing me to buy stuff hehe. Bought the Klipsch R-51PM with 12" Klipsch sub. Rocks and clarity is there like on bigger speakers.. First bought the Denafrips ARES II and now these. Im scared to watch more of your reviews dude....
$99 here, Best Buy around two years ago... I really like these, and spot on about placement, they can really sound like garbage in the wrong space, nd the more elevation the better, get them at or above ear level, and they do need a sub woofer. I put them into my SVS system, I have the Ultra Bookshelf above a pair of the SVS SB3000 subs... For what I paid, KEY WORD "PAID", in my room, they gave those Ultra Bookshelf speakers a run for the money, ;-) especially with the dual subs. Without the subs... They are a $99 speaker folks, wrapped in vinyl... I use these with the SVS SoundBase in the garage and they will be making their way into the bedroom as soon as I do a bit of carpentry. Pair these with an inexpensive sub, or two, elevate them, situate close to the wall as he said, and these are very livable. I would not pay more than $150 for these.
@@cheapaudioman I like the look of those Sony's I can see a pair of those in the garage... Or in the office... It is amazing how good these inexpensive speakers can sound with the right amp and placement.
I don't think it'd be boring if all the people loved the same things. Everybody would know what's been talked about. There'd be no way to hide ignorance and incompetence behind:"well, I like it that way"... (like little kids who, after they fall from the bike say:"I did it on purpose!"). However, since there's no easy way of choosing the mainstream view on a given matter, I propose my point of view! Firstly- it was me who first came out with the proposal. Secondly,- I'm right and you're wrong! Any objections? Fine, than, it's settled!
Currently watching post-purchase reviews to affirm my choice to buy these
I did the same thing lol. I'm replacing mine with Elacs. I've learned that I don't like klipsch. Wayyy to pricy for mediocre
Same
The best way to review an item.... but it first, then see if it's worth it 👌
Most down to earth, straight shooting audio reviewer on CZcams to date. Just a guy being honest about one of his passions and communicating this in a way that most guys just being honest about a passion would. The lack of big brand or sponsor manipulation is very much the cherry on top.
I have 4 of these. I also found these to be a little thin in the bass. When I started to get closer to reference level, the bass got muddy. I pulled the drivers and packed the cabinet with double polly fill on all the walls. The bass tightened up, and the mids came to life.. These now sound much more refined..
Just gotta give some props to this guy;
Never seen a channel host respond to virtually every question .. thoroughly, thoughtfully, and with follow ups.
Amazing. Randy, you're really a star, and fully deserve all success coming your way. Respect.
Thanks, Peter. appreciate it. I don’t spend as much time in the comments as I should. They’re not always as nice as yours
@@cheapaudioman beware the trolls! There's not many though I noticed. just really impressed with your correspondence, and professionalism .. you really do deserve all the good things coming your way. Best Regards, from UK
(thanks for the reply)
@@petergarner1971 Personally, I have to wonder how often Randy has to take a deep breath and hold his tongue. He doesn't deserve some of the assholery he gets at times.
I subscribed. I like your straight forward casual approach with out razzmatazz or gimmicks. It’s good to hear your opinions in the moment without too much prep.
Thanks
Are you from the 1890's?
I love these style of videos they give me great information and have so much charm haha
Tanks man! Facing them straight into the Rom really improved the Balance of these Speakers.
Hey Randy. Love your channel! I got a deal I think you'd like two years ago on a pair of Klipsch R-26F floorstanders that I'd had my eye on anyway. At the time they weren't the latest or greatest in their line but the specs seemed a good fit for what I wanted. Anyway this seller on Amazon had them on sale at $219 each but the day I happened to see them it said 50% off.....so basically got the pair BOGO. With tax $233 for the pair! Love a good deal.
I recently pick up a pair of 51s I have it hooked up to Yamaha s301 with a old Yamaha sw60 subwoofer excellent combo set up after speaker break in. van halen,megadeth,Holdsworth all sound great👊
Randy now that you've reviewed both do you prefer the r51m or the jamo s803?
I love the way these sound
They are very good and I’m very happy you enjoy them. If you’re running a sub with these it will really fill out the lower end and sound very balanced.
Would you recommend these for playing vinyl records of rock, metal, and hip hop set up on an entertainment center about 5 feet from the couch/ chair? If not, any recommendations?
Any opinion for classical (piano concertos, string quartets, symphonies) between this R-51M, the Fluance Sig and the Elac Debut 2.0 B5.2 Thx man!
Really like these older reviews they are gold.
Love your content man. 101 subscribers to 63.3k in one year 🙌🙌🙌 also love bob Ross intro 😉
can these be used as good satellite speakers placed to the sides of my sofa facing towards me while i have the rp 600m 2 and a nice center up front or is that overkill?
I have the powered version of these along with the r-100sw subwoofer. They sound pretty good. This was my first time buying a "real" sound system, and through these I've realized that I've only scratched the surface of the audio world. There are so many brands and options out there. It will be fun to explore more, but in the meantime I'll be putting some more mileage on what I've got so far. Gotta wait until my wallet is a bit thicker before I make any next steps.
With a sub and the R51's I think you'll be hard pressed to get anything significantly better for less than $300 for a pair of passive bookshelfs. I'm sure it sounds incredible.
I dunno man! You have a pretty complete setup. Audio reviews overemphasize the details. You can pay more and get something marginally better.
@@user-xg6zz8qs3q that may be true. Regardless, it will be a few years before I even consider any sort of upgrade. I’ll see if anything tempts me at that point.
@@cheapaudioman I have these r51m on order. Debating if I should return them for either the keff q150 or klipsch rp500m or maybe the 600. how would the r51m with an added subwoofer compare to the rp600. I would also be using these to build a 5.1 system for movies and games. Do you have any opinion on how the reference series compares to the reference premiere as in a home theater standpoint? Thanks. Side not I currently have the Sony core series tower speakers and find them a little dull. They just seem like there missing the exitement which is why I went with the klipsch reference series I did hook the Sony bookshelf’s up to a 70s pioneer sx450 I have and found the sound stage to sound way better than the towers. Not sure if it’s the different receiver I’m using or a tower vs bookshelf thing. I Will have to try the bookshelfs with the Sony reciever I’m using with the towers.
How did you connect the subwoofer?
Really enjoying your videos. This channel is going to grow fast.
the price of the speakers has gone up way more than $144 USD !!! wow
Yep they are about $200 and up now and they are worth that.
@@steve4321able $374 crom $499 right now
@@Collin2377 huh?
They on sale 144 right now today 6/21/2021 Christmas in July pre sale
Klipsch are one of "these" brands that are often on sale for half the price.
Do you think these would be good for a smaller room surround sound mains?
Picked these up when you put this video out for $144 dollars. Great value. Jan 2022 they are $252 USD on sale and $360 USD retail. what the heck?!!
great review man, i have the Klipsch R-51PM that i use with my pro - ject debut carbon record player and i love those speakers, i wanted to get a cheaper version for some other stuff as well :) subbed
i bought these at 210. from best buy in January and feel i got a great deal. i am an old audiophile guy who has heard most speakers of merit since the 60's. I have owned over 25 and have never found greater value than these 51's by Klipsch. I had a more expensive pr of Klipsch that was using and when i heard the 51's switched the old speakers to movies and created a new system for vinyl. i use a Marantz 5005 amp and a Rega p3 and my old and new vinyl never sounded better. these speakers are a good buy at 300. a pr.
I'm so glad you like them. They're running a great sale on them for the holidays. Good pair of speakers.
Tom I bought my component system in the heyday of vintage audio, mostly phase linear stuff, but my all-time favorite speakers were the HPM 100s from Pioneer. I had owned JBLs and Kenwood, Sony, Sansui, JVC, Marantz and Sherwood but the HPM 100s were hands down my favorite. I can't say they don't make them like they used to because I know nothing of current speaker offerings (I'm a headphone only guy) but in the early and mid seventies, the market was flush with some of the best ever built.
I pretty much trust Randy to guide me should I ever consider standing speakers again.
I liked that you said this is a "hobby". It truly is! Thank you for the content.
Well due to the fact that this video is one year old, I am not going to feel so bad beings I just bought these speakers the other day for $225 so I’m gonna tell myself I feel good that it’s not a bad price due to inflation,still waiting for them to arrive I made my decision partially based on your other review that you speak about in this which I had watched last week when you say a good rock speaker, that’s music to my ears, I will be purchasing them as side surround in my home theater system that I’m trying to put together which I am utilizing Klipsch towers, centers with same woofer tweeter combo and week on base is fine as my spl100 should handle that. And because I already have them. Fluance bipoles for rear speakers. Thanks for your review. It helps to hear a review from someone that likes the same style music, some might hear the bad in this review I only heard the good hopefully they will work out well in my system
You did fine paying that amount. I bought my daughter a set of these and they are absolutely fantastic for the bedroom or study.
Hi cheapaudioman, was thinking of buying these as surrounds, or maybe the r41m? what do you think?
So I'm slumming at yard sales a couple of months ago and stopped at a place that had a lot of stereo stuff on the tables. They had an older sixty dollar Sony receiver with these speakers for 100 bucks. I got them down to 85 dollars and got it loaded into my car before they realized their mistake. I gave this system to my daughter and when I went over after she set it up, I was mega impressed with the sound. I had flirted with Klipsch speakers when stationed in Germany but never bought any. I was impressed at how such an inexpensive speaker could sound so good. I now understand what they mean by the Klipsch sound.
@cheapaudioman, can I get your take on this? I'm a little new to audio and surround sound systems, and just made a few purchases to set up a new system in a house I'm moving into. Best Buy had a bunch of Klipsch speakers on sale last week, so I went with the RP-600M for front L&R, R-34-C as center channel, R-100SW 10" sub, and these R-51M as my L&R surround. Do you think these R-51M will do well in the side L&R positions as part of this 5.1 setup for general tv, movie and music listening? I know a lot may be dependent on the room, which is a medium to large living room and kitchen combined area, but overall what do you think about using a speaker like this not as the main L&R in front but to the side as the L&R surrounds in a 5.1 setup? Any thoughts are appreciated, thanks.
I know this is late but I've been into audio for a very long time most important speakers is the center channel then your mains your mains are only important if you listen to music if you are 50/50 with music and home theater towers are a must you don't technically need towers if you have a subwoofer but since it's only 1 10inch sub then I'd still go with towers I run 2 10inch subs that being said surrounds only does special effect noises honestly nothing worth spending $300 dollars or more for unless you want everything to match and look good but if you don't care about that surrounds speakers don't need to be the best but klipsch r51 are excellent for surrounds if you are struggling with dialog it will be your center its a fine center that you have but since you have rp600 towers they are alot stronger so it can drown out the dialog from center because the center plays like 80% of all dialog I'd really recommend to match center with mains the very best set up the mais and center should be the exact same speaker
@@bumkrilla5339 Thanks, as it turns out, these Klipsch R51s are good for my left and right surrounds, even if they're a little more than needed for that. I got them at such a good sale price from Best Buy that it didn't make sense to go with smaller speakers that would have cost more in those positions. But I definitely agree with you on the importance of the center channel speaker - at least that's what I've learned from using my new setup, and if I upgrade anything it will be my center channel. I've had times where the dialogue level for tv and movies doesn't seem to be as good it should be. Hasn't been that noticeable, but there are times I thinks its been an issue. I've really liked the RP600s at front left and right positions. I also bought a second sub, so the two 10" subs and the rest of the setup really rocks when I'm turning up the music. Thanks for your feeback, I really agree with you about the center channel.
Your deadpan tone is quite convincing and comes across as absolutely honest. I like it!
Could you do a B&W M1 satellite speaker review ? Its been listed at 250 per speaker but is now at 210 per speaker. What are your thoughts and what's it best for say compared to the Klipsch R51M or what does it compare best with?
Hi, would these be an ideal pair of speakers for a turntable ? Been loving your videos by the way !
Did you get it for the turntable?
Good review! Light and easy.
101 subscribers! You’ve come a long way.nice job 👏
At the time I am typing this, Randy is up to 197 Thousand subs. Looks like stuff worked out.
Hi Randy.. Help me choose..
Which is better for you Klipsch R41M or Sony SSCS5?
thanks in advance 🙂
kindly please review what is your thought on klipsch sixes.. its active speaker and a little expensive but i want to hear whts your opinion on this
I haven't heard them but I'd like to for sure.
i wanted to get these but i listen trance, hip-hop, etc and i play games so i need some bass. in my country these cost a bit over $200. is there an alternative until $300? can't go higher and i have an 8ohm amplifier.
Hey there! I'm looking for speakers that will perform well with my current setup... could anyone help me? I have an Audiotechnica AT-LP120X turntable + Yamaha A-S301 as the amplifier. This comparison might seem obvious, but I'm torn between those speakers and Elacs Debut 2.0 B6.2. Which ones should I go for? Also, I have to mention that I listen to R&B and Vocal Pop, and that my room is quite small.
Any help is highly appreciated!
I'd go with the Elacs if you can. They're at a different level than these and have way more bass and better imaging and soundstage.
If your room is QUITE small, get the ELAC B5.2. :-)
Hahahah 101 subs.
In the last week I have seen your subs go up by 1-2k per day.
Great content, great delivery.
Are these good for surround sound in home theaters?
I have these hooked up to a Sonos AMP on my main TV. They are pretty damn good for TV and music. They are even better when you add a sub.
I got these earlier this year and use for rear surround replacing some old smaller boston acoustic speakers.
Do you think if I replace my R-41m fronts with these and use the R-41m's as back surrounds that would be good
@@jamescamarillo6064, I had a some entry cheap level towers Polk t50 I think, I replace them with this 51 and what a difference, way better. Now they are my rear surround since I got the 820 klipsch towers.
Randy, Is there any significance difference between the rp400m and rp500m?
I haven't heard the 500's although I'm hoping to get them in soon.
@@cheapaudioman hmmmm, thanks
2 Questions, if I may:
1. In Spain (where I am), I'm getting these for about EUR180 - is it worth that price? (things are usually more expensive here than in the US; for context, the sony ss-cs5 is available for EUR200.. and I have seen the 'under 200' vid too, btw).
2. I am planning to pair this with the DENON AVR-S650H (at EUR 420 in Spain) (and potentially grow into a larger set of speakers for a 5.1 setup).. do you think that's a good pairing / direction?
Thanks! - love your content, btw - thanks for putting it out for the youtube world!
You're splitting hairs between these and the Sony's so I'd go with which ever is cheaper and more readily available. Thanks for watching, my Spanish friend.
@@cheapaudioman thanks a lot! Btw, inconsequential, but "Indian friend in Spain"
@@godspeed23carl my apologies, my Indian friend.
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Hi chepaudioman! I'm considering on buying this R-51Ms, could I run them on a DX3 Pro+ DAC+Amp?
I been planning to get a pair of these for my turntable set up.. hmmmmmm
Hi what amplifier are you recommend for those speakers. Amp up to 500dolars. Do you think Yamaha A s-501 is good for them. Thanks
Can someone help me decide. This or the Wharfedale Diamond 12.1. I like a lot of bass and treble
Smart on money, big on heart. That's cheapaudioman.
I've been considering these for a starter setup for my tv. I'd use them for watching movies and listening to music on Spotify through a chromecast. What would be a good budget amp for them? I'm looking for value for my money, but I don't know what I should look for in an amp. I'll probably pair them with a small sub too sometime down the road. Any tips?
Do you want a remote? and will you be hooking up anything other inputs. How does the chromecast hook up? Via HDMI I suppose or does it have an analog output?
@@cheapaudioman I don't care about a remote since it'd only be plugged into one device (TV). The chromecast is via HDMI, so it uses the same output as the TV.
Two options. Traditional 2 channel receiver, or small 2 channel amp with an optical to rca box or a stand alone dac. What's your budget?
@@cheapaudioman As cheap as I can get away with honestly. How much of a difference is there in sound quality between the price ranges?
I'm looking for as much bang for my buck as possible, but I know absolutely nothing about audio gear and the information I find online is very conflicting. I appreciate the help!
@@dr-funk you can tell a bit of a difference between a $100 amp and a $400 and then a $1000. Check out the Fosi audio amp review I just did and then the connect a sub to anything video. They might help
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I read that once these are broken in, their lower frequency response opens up, any experience or updated opinion
Yes, they do open up great after break in but dont expect a ton of bass from them. I have them hooked up to an EQ and I can really get these to push some bass and they have no problem handling it.
I think we all respect your thoughts and opinions for the most part. It’s the condescending tone and my farts don’t smell delivery that is the turn off.
Can I connect them to a iMac desktop?
Knowledgeable and handsome :)
So what is the sub for $150 ?
It's my intention to use a pair of these primarily for white noise/RainyMood while I sleep and occasional music!
Hey Randy , was looking for a review on these for some time ..Thanks !
Glad I could help. Thanks for watching.
How would these do as 2 fronts for tv and watching concerts on you tube?
They'd do ok I think. I really think these need a subwoofer to get the most out of them. They're placement can be finicky to get decent bass.
can you recomend a pair of speakers under 400 dollars suitable for metal and rock? i like the little boosted low and high frequencies and soft warm mids...
klipsch rp600m is good, svs prime bookshelves, heck the elac unifi ub52's are on sale down to $500 now
@@cheapaudioman have you any idea about the dali spector 2?
I've seen your review on the spector 1 but here in greece the spector 2 are 200€ and they seem bargain.
8:44 Blasphemy!
But in seriousness, this is one of the defining reasons I purchased these speakers was detail without being picky about tow-in, along with small enough dimensions for sitting where the old ones were (2 ft clearance on either side of a 27" CRT TV). Six months later and I'm still perfectly content with them, a fine pair of speakers for $200 CAD and change. They even pull music duty on occasion.
What amp you were using? thanks
@@isaidstream4547 I've used a Yamaha RX-V385 AV receiver since 2018.
I learned that most of the complaints about these speakers were from people placing them in way too big environments. My daughter made the same mistake with these speakers. These are made for more intimate spaces, so if you are trying to make them work in a cavernous room, of course you are going to be disappointed. Not the fault of the speaker. Of course, that's how you learn. You should see the amount of money I spent on headphones without really doing proper research. I spent thousands before I discovered a three hundred set of Airmotivs sounded pretty much as good, if not better than the Audeze.
Great review. I just picked them up recently. I love the way they sound. Wondering if I should return them and get the RP 600m's.
If that is an option and fits within your budget I wouldn’t think twice about returning for the 600m’s. I just did a review of them yesterday. If you go to my page it should be the second video. Speakers are rarely twice as good as others but in this case the RP600’s are every bit twice as good.
@@cheapaudioman Right on man. Yeah I watched your review of them. Thanks for the response. If your able I'd really like your opinion on the Cambridge Audio AXA35. I just picked it up and I think it's an amazing budget option. I paired it with a aptx bluetooth 5.0 receiver from Best Buy. It sounds amazing streaming Amazon Music HD. I can't wait for how it will sound with the 600m's. Keep up the great reviews man.
@@EXT3RMIN8R I looked hard at the cambridge before I pulled the trigger on the Denon PMA600NE which I then returned for the Emotiva TA-100. If you're streaming Amazon HD (That's what I use) you may want to consider the Topping BC3. It's an LDAC BT receiver for about 60-70 bucks. Also, what kind of phone or tablet are you streaming from. The link to my review on that is czcams.com/video/8kf7GbUfqmU/video.html . AptX won't get the most out of your Amazon HD subscription. Also, if you're using an Apple device youre limited to AAC. Let me know if you have any questions. I'll be happy to help.
@@cheapaudioman I was looking at the PMA600NE as well. My buddy has an amazing set up with an older Cambridge. I'll check it out for sure. I have a Oneplus 8 it has bluetooth 5.1 with atpx. I will for sure that's the same price as the BT receiver I got from best buy. The DAC on it seems alright. If the Topping is better I'll got for that. I've heard good things aside from you just now. lol That's great man thanks for the help as I'm sure you know there is sooo much information and so many subjective opinions it's hard to determine. Thank god we can return and exchange things. I got the Cambridge from a local hifi store in Seattle they have a great upgrade policy too. Pretty good little shop. Where are you out of?
By the way what was your rate in the Navy? Or were you an Officer? I was a Quartermaster.
Bought these from Best Buy open box a year ago for $184. I like them but I have a Bic America F12 sub to help out with the base. Saving my pennies for a RP-600M or equivalent.
RP600M is a great speaker and one of my favorites.
This man said thank you for 101 subscribers and is sitting at 222k subs 🎉 congrats on the glow up
Be sarcastic. Then when you are excited we know you hit the nail on the head.
I tried to be all buttoned up and it just didn’t seem right.
You mention returning what you can... if you ever have some Klipsch that you can't return, or wanna sell.... or even others for that matter.... do you sell them to rotate in others for testing and comparison....? Some of the people drawn to your channel, especially due to the name of the channel, would probably buy stuff when you're done testing it .... if you have anythung currently for sale, hit me up or let me know where it is listed....
Thanks again for the videos.... I am now looking at a different approach....hope to have a basic 5.1 AVR shortly, and am looking into the best 5.1 speakers I can get, even if that means building a system in steps, to end up with a better system in the long run....vs compromising on all the compinents to buy it all sooner...
Where are you getting these for 150 at??
Yeah dude I wouldn't pay $290 for these either but then I try to never pay full price for anything. So why didn't you post a link so we can get in that Deal of $140 ?!? I own a 2 pairs of Klipsch the r-84 and The r48 floor standers . Although I like them I wouldn't say I love them I was never blown away and those I paid 1/2 price at $500 a pair there's no way in hell I would have felt happy or satisfied at 500 a piece to be honest the only pair of speakers that I can say I've been impressed with (as far as budget speakers) are my jbl170 arena speakers and those were half price as well at $300 a pair ! I might ad that these were promo code Deals from Fry's! End of an era 😫 God bless them! So many great deals!
Can do sound demos that would make ur videos even better/informative. Thanks.
I recently bought a pair of these for ~150$ and the Sony SS-CS5’s for ~125$ upon your recommendation very happy with them both 😊thanks for your reviews
Which is better ?
I have them connected to 5.1 AVR with a Sony Ss-CS8 Center and a Klipsch 10” Subwoofer. This Klipsch and Sony setup complements each other very well. I like them both about the same and would buy the one that is the best price at the time.
I would wait for the Sony’s to go on sale … last price I saw was $199, the Klipsch have been holding Steady at $159, at least where I shop … also of note: The Klipsch RS 600M’s have come all the way down to $339, at least that was the price I paid new. This is due to the RS 600M II’s being released …
Hey ricky where did you get these for 150? I am seeing them for 250-300!
$159 from Walmart rn
I did create an beast R-41 bookshelf speakers and Polk audio 10 inch subwoofer. 😎
i love bright i used my for movie so i want to hear every sound
Are these good for movies?
This sale price places these in the same range as the Micca RB42's which I have been eyeing for a while now. Have you listened to the Micca's as well? I would be interested in hearing how they might compare to one another. Thanks for the review, just subbed!
I actually just got the Micca MB42X and have been listening to them for the last couple of days. The only concern I have with these is their driver size and I would assume the same holds true for the RB42's. They do sound good for their size. Quite good actually. If you're thinking about anything other than a desk top setup or a small room I'd probably point you to the Klipsch or the Sony SSCS5. Or look hard at the Klipsch RP400m. They're $230 right now.
@@cheapaudioman I took a look at the MB42X as well, however, the RB42 does a much better job on the lows as I understand and makes for a better reference speaker as it does not color the sound as much as the MB42X. But, they also cost more. They look as if they use the same tweeter. I will be using whatever speaker I end up going with for near-field listening on my office desktop. I am currently reconditioning a Technics SL-D3 turntable that I will have hooked up through phono preamp into a budget tube amp to drive the speakers.
@@lazarus822 for desk top only with no sub then I think the RB42's are probably a great option.
@@cheapaudioman Thanks! Keeping an eye on their price to see if they drop for the holidays. Will also keep looking out for a good price on the Klipsch RP400m, saw the deal on Amazon for them but only comes in black finish and was hoping for a walnut one.
@@lazarus822 I almost picked up a pair myself. I’m a sucker for the walnut finish though. I think crutchfield has them at $275
How would this R-51M combined with a R-100SW 10” subwoofer compare to The Sixes?
Really hard to compare those two options, as they are entirely different and would really be for entirely different people or uses. I wouldn't say either option is better than the other, it's too much of an apples to oranges comparison.
-watches this video... "101 subscribers" ?
congrats for the 30K man, lol!
Why are the rp600m Klipsch speakers so much more expensive than these? Thank you and great video
cause it's different speaker. 600m have higher watt, better bass(17hz lower), higher sensitivity.
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Where did you find them for $144?? I see them at their cheapest online at $215 on amazon.
They were on sale for $144 around the end of October. They'll go down to that level again. Klipsch's retail pricing is literally a joke. They never adhere to it and there stuff is almost always on sale.
I bought a pair at Best Buy for $99 and they delivered them. They go on sale quite often, sometimes as low as $79
@@michaelwright1602 R-41m, the smaller version
I got them for $89 on sale klipsch 51m around Nov 2020.
The amp really makes a difference on these. My NAD 7155 really brings these speakers to life.
At one point i planned on getting these but i decided on the rp600ms.
You absolutely made the right choice
Great review. I am just comparing jamo s803 vs klipsch r41m. Jamo is more base, less middle, less loud. Klipsch are more bright. Actually it seems like the mid range on the Jamo is totally pushed back.
Haven't heard the Jamo's but go with your ear and get what you like. I'm listening to the Fluance Premier right now and they are very very good.
@@cheapaudiomani would try them, but they are not sold here
These things are sometimes more expensive or barely cheaper than the RP 600M in France. I got the RP 600M obviously.
I want to stay with klipsch. What would be great for rear and side surrounds. I like loud movies and all kinds of music
These would work.
Your vids are great and you’re funny. How could I power a pair of those with adding a sub? I only need a 2.1 system.
Couple different ways. You could get a 2 channel receiver or integrated amp with a subwoofer out and hook it up that way. Other option is to find a subwoofer with “speaker level inputs” and connect the speakers out of your amp to the sub and then the speakers would hook up to lines out of your sub. Most subwoofers have a speaker level input.
@@cheapaudioman Thank you. How would these compare to the Q Acoustics 3020i? I’m looking for wide sound stage and clarity.
@@OOnti-dz4jd I think the Q’s are better balanced. I don’t have any time with the 3020i just the 3020. If you can afford them I’d go with either the 3020 or the 3020i. They have much better bass even though they’re not rated as low as the Klipsch. And better balanced and clearer highs
@@cheapaudioman Thank you for responding. Are there any sub $300 receivers out there any good?
@@OOnti-dz4jd I think there is a decent little Denon 5.1 or 5.2 on sale under $300. AVR540BT and then tberes a Sony 2 channel for about $130. Personally I’d go for the 5 channel and that way you could do home theater as well. It also has audessey room correction that is pretty handy
I have these. Im loving them. Im coming from some Edifier powered 4" that did sound good. But these are way better. Not the best out there Im aware of. But they sound awesome for me.
Paired with Klipsh powered 12" btw.
Listening to your review threw them lol
Do feel there is some Midrange lack. Any fix for that or maybe an addon speaker for that?
Tried the 9 inch from the wall. Spot on man. Defo changes the bass.
What are these compared with the 500 M or the 400 Ems
Unfortunately, I haven't heard either of those speakers. Thanks so much for watching.
@@cheapaudioman also what do you think of the triangles. I just watched a couple reviews. But rather watch you.
@@codychavarria6088 I’d love to get a hold of a pair but I have to build up the channel a bit to convince people to send things to me. I’ve heard good things about the Bro2 and 3
Additional i have 2 subs already. I have klipsch quintet ii satellites from 2004 so a much needed up grade
Is the sound difference between r51m and rp600m worth the money difference?
Yes. For sure. I know the RP’s are much more expensive but they are way way better
@@cheapaudioman i found another big boy: Klipsch Reference RB-81 II. i can have one for the price of two r51m. seems like a better choice than rp600m. what do you think?
@@valeccylinder8703 let me look into them. I haven’t heard them.
@@cheapaudioman i can have the Klipsch Reference RP-600M for 400 euro, normally 720 euro. from the money perspective it should be better than rp600m.
@@valeccylinder8703 if you can afford the rp600m I would go with that.
I'm such a noob it's embarrassing what's the best starter system av receiver.? I bought these speakers lol and have no idea what to do with them
If you’re just doing music or even if you want to run your tv look at the SMSL sa300, topping mx3. They both have sub outs and built in dacs to run your tv into. Also both support Bluetooth and a rca input. Great and affordable
@@cheapaudioman ok so you would recomend that over an AV reciever even if im willing to spend around 300 for a receiver? im looking for home theater and music. i have 2 r-51m and also some polk surround and bass, and klipch speakers i found at the local thrift store, trying to create a frankenstein system that is worth half a crap just for fun.
Man you are forcing me to buy stuff hehe. Bought the Klipsch R-51PM with 12" Klipsch sub. Rocks and clarity is there like on bigger speakers.. First bought the Denafrips ARES II and now these. Im scared to watch more of your reviews dude....
These speakers are better than sony ss-cs5???
Wow 101 subs at this time has you at 117k long way baby. You sarcastic, no way. Did not see your early reviews.
These are on sale at Amz for $155.
$99 here, Best Buy around two years ago... I really like these, and spot on about placement, they can really sound like garbage in the wrong space, nd the more elevation the better, get them at or above ear level, and they do need a sub woofer. I put them into my SVS system, I have the Ultra Bookshelf above a pair of the SVS SB3000 subs... For what I paid, KEY WORD "PAID", in my room, they gave those Ultra Bookshelf speakers a run for the money, ;-) especially with the dual subs. Without the subs... They are a $99 speaker folks, wrapped in vinyl... I use these with the SVS SoundBase in the garage and they will be making their way into the bedroom as soon as I do a bit of carpentry. Pair these with an inexpensive sub, or two, elevate them, situate close to the wall as he said, and these are very livable. I would not pay more than $150 for these.
Yeah... I was trying to be nice to these but the $73 Sony's are just as good if not better
@@cheapaudioman I like the look of those Sony's I can see a pair of those in the garage... Or in the office... It is amazing how good these inexpensive speakers can sound with the right amp and placement.
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150$ ? These are around 350$ to 400$ still worth it at that price, but I wouldn't put that in the title.
They went up . You can't expect him to update the title according to the current market price
Why Im pretty sure that cup has Jack Daniels and not coffee.. Anyway, great work cheapaudioman!
The mug got u a sub.
Grabbed both these and the R-15Ms, ended up going with the R-15s just because there was some ineffable quality to the sound I enjoyed more.
Me too, they call that the Klipsch sound.
A hundred subs lol. Congrats on your success
Thanks, man. Been very humbling for me to see the response from everyone.
I don't think it'd be boring if all the people loved the same things. Everybody would know what's been talked about. There'd be no way to hide ignorance and incompetence behind:"well, I like it that way"... (like little kids who, after they fall from the bike say:"I did it on purpose!").
However, since there's no easy way of choosing the mainstream view on a given matter, I propose my point of view!
Firstly- it was me who first came out with the proposal. Secondly,- I'm right and you're wrong!
Any objections?
Fine, than, it's settled!