How Similar are Japanese and Korean?
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- čas přidán 22. 05. 2024
- Two of the most popular Asian languages are Japanese and Korean, and there are millions of fans of Japanese and Korean pop culture around the world. How similar are Korean and Japanese? If you learn one, will you be able to communicate with people who speak the other language? Find out!
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@방개튀김would you rather have 8 south koreas🇰🇷🇰🇷🇰🇷🇰🇷🇰🇷🇰🇷🇰🇷🇰🇷 or would you rather have 3 uaes🇦🇪🇦🇪🇦🇪
그냥 둘다 한문에서 비롯된 말이라서
그런거 아냐???
@@halin0519Do you like seuol or busan
@켁켁 😶😶😶😶😶😶😕🤨
haha you speak korean like a japanese speaker. Really interesting hearing you stressing the wrong syllables in the exact same way japanese would! Perfectly understandable but fascinating none the less
It's cause he speaks japanese too. He pretty much says it in the video tho
I noticed it too. I'm not a native speaker of either of the language but even I got it cause I watch a lot of Korean dramas
His Japanese pronunciation is also kind of different sometimes. that's not so weird, though. so I don't think his speaking is like a Japanese speaker.
@@olivia4924 yeah he has that westerner-ish fluent accent tho imo
@@olivia4924 correct, he totally speaks japanese like a NON native speaker with an accent, although not horrendous.
The Korean alphabet is so logical and easy.
+Abdullah Alrasheed Yeah, some people learn it on the airplane before they arrive in Korea. :D
+Langfocus Not that much. Korean spelling rules are much trickier than u might think.. Even Koreans struggle with it. To give an easy example, some consonants when are in the last position of a syllable and meets certain consonants on the beginning of the next syllable it changes completely.. EX.: 왕십리 (One Seou's area name) . If you read syllable by syllable it would be 왕 WANG 십 SHIP (SIP) 리 RI , but combined you read as WANGSHIMNI .. P-->M and R-->N.
If you have a Korean friend, try to type nonsense (but pronounceable words) on you word processor and ask him to read it.
+Ricardo H. Uchimura well good think of read in an Abjad. the arabic writing is easier than it looks. alot of rules but very little illogical letters spread around. :)
Ricardo H. Uchimura Yes, but I just meant they can learn the alphabet on the plane.
+Ricardo H. Uchimura It's called silent consonant.
I'm a Japanese studying Korean. Korean is easy to study. I'm doing my best to learn it in a year.
応援します！
Hangul looks cool, but speaking is pain; Japanese sounds cool, but writing is a nightmare; can't understand any of you yet though
@kek lol it's true
應援してますよう!!
사사쨩 파이팅
I studied Japanese too, have a degree in it, but I always found the Korean students have a huge advantage over anyone else when it came to learning Japanese. They picked it up so fast. They had very good pronunciation and they could articulate themselves with the right sentence structure with ease. I felt like Yoda trying to speak normally, I had to twist my brain to almost speak backwards. I would have thought that Chinese would have the same advantage, but that is completely untrue, they would have a lot of difficulty with pronunciation and had just as much problems with the structure as I did (If not more), the only advantage they had was learning to write Kanji.
@Chris Anderson Chinese is not at all similar to Japanese or Korean. Like I said before Japanese only shares some of the written characters and very very little pronunciation.
@Chris Anderson All Asians are similar? Indian, Thai, Burma, Viet, Pinoy, Malaysia, Indonesia, Pakistan, Kazahkstan, Middle east is part of West Asia, and many...so how all Asians are similar?
Skater Stimm Yeah if anything Chinese has more similarities to English with its sentence structure and word order. Makes sense that both English speakers and Chinese speakers struggle with spoken Japanese
@@ivantruth7229 Well, Asia is the biggest continent/part of the world. Actually, West Asia is the proper term for nowadays "middle east" because originally the term middle east were used to refer to nowadays South east asia. The reason being is because South east asia is in between West Asia and East Asia. And also South east asia is the main gateway from West to East and vice versa for merchants, sailors, etc, because they have to passed through the Straits of Malacca which was an international hub where the port of Malacca located in the past and still is the most important route for ships even today that connects West and East.
Even the structure and grammar of Chinese and Japanese are super different (Korean and Japanese are similar). I think Chinese still have advantage to learn Japanese. Japanese have a huge percentage kanji. Some Kanji’s pronunciation are similar to Chinese. Korean delete Kanji but they remain lots of pronunciation as same as Chinese. (Only few difference). Japanese only parts of kanji pronunciation are similar to Chinese but when Chinese and Japanese write their sentence on paper. Probably both of them will know the general meaning of each other. In other words, if you learn one of those three languages, you will have advantage to learn the other two.
저는 현재 한국말을 공부하고 있는 아랍 사람입니다. 한국, 한국사, 한식 그리고 한국말을 좋아합니다.
wow, did you type it by yourself without google translate?, if so, you are really good at Korean since I can understand it clearly. You talked exactly same as native Korean speaker lol (I am Korean btw)
Csp Sk Blood Contract .. Thank you. yes, I wrote it by myself. I have been studying Korean for about 2 years now. I am still lacking a lot though. I need to especially work on vocabulary and practice writing and reading more.
101 .. 감사합니다 ^^
Muslim Lady 좋아해주셔서 감사해요~😃😃😃
오 한국말 정말 잘 하시네요!
저는 핀란드에서 사는 한국어를 공부하는 핀란드 남자이다
Gjeldeti voi vittu käytit kääntjää :DDD
한국어 잘하십니다!🙂
@밍⃢쭈워너블 걍 그분이 한국말을 말하는 번역이 써는 거같에요
그렁데 저도 핀란인
@@meowBlitz 오 그렇군요
한국어 잘하시네여 ㅋ
I'm Japanese and am currently learning Korean online, found this video while bored and wow this helped me understand the similarities in the easiest way possible, and also felt so much more motivated to keep studying!!!
omg i'm korean trying to learn japanese,,, good luck!!
@@user-dd4ry7tj2l thank you! Fighting 💗
Korean and Japanese is really similar especially end of word is almost same
That meaning is kind of [Yes]
So desu 'ne'(そうです'ね' 소데스'네') -
geu run 'ne'(ぐろん'ね' 그렇'네')
So desu 'yo' よ - geu run ne 'yo' 요
So desu 'ka'? か - geu rut seum ni 'kka'?까
So 'da'そうだ - geu rut 'da' 그렇다
@@ykk7482
Korean Japanese, Okinawan, Manchurian Mongolian languages all belong to the same language group............... very similar each other just like German, Dutch and English..or French Spanish Romanian Portuguese and Italian
@@psuirsea5522 They don't Korean has an isolated language tree meaning that it has no connection with other languages. The reason Japanese and Korean are similar is just because they are really close to each other many elements could have easily influenced each one of them
As a korean speaker, i always was surprised to find out how similar japanese was to korean, through the dozens of anime i watched. in fact, it made me so fascinated that i started to finally learn japanese about a week ago. i feel like koreans will have a much easier time learning japanese and getting the pronunciation right compared to any other language speaker in the world. or maybe its cuz im just a weeb, which is also very true
*It seems like Koreans* (or girl group members, anyway) have trouble pronouncing ず (zu) and つ (tsu), it always seems to come out 즈 (jeu) or 추 (chu). Apart from those exceptions, there are more sounds that exist in Korean that don't exist in Japanese, so native Koreans are more successful at pronouncing Japanese words than most Japanese are at pronouncing spoken Korean. Learning to pronounce consonant blends can't be nearly as burdensome as learning written Japanese though. I'm overseas Japanese so I'm below-kindergarten level at kanji but I can read Hangul quite easily, because 트와이스 진짜 좋아. IZ*ONE permanent!
@제이홉후배
아 진짜요? 대박이다! 嫉妬ている…日本か韓国でTWICEを見るのは素晴らしいことですよね~ ！🤯
As a Japanese speaker, I feel the same way watching kdramas
@@Audrey-uq7dm
*Which dramas* do you watch? I typically only watch the shows with girl group members in the cast, like Reply 1988 and Hotel del Luna.
@@vaffangool9196 I like those recent popular ones. Like, Itaewon Class, True Beauty, Extraordinary You and It's Okay to Not Be Okay. I haven't watched these 2 that you mentioned but I'm planning to watch Reply 1988
When I visited Korea, I felt that they treated their language as a proud invention, and for a good reason. I am Chinese and I understand the frustration non-native speakers have when learning those several thousand Chinese characters. Now I have learned a bit about Japanese, and oh boy it's even worse. So basically Koreans at one point in time simply went 'oh fuck it we're done, start from scratch'. Good call I'd say.
The Korean just said "Haha, yeet!" and yeeted Hanja out for Hangul.
Mao was originally going to get rid of Hanzi completely, but Stalin talked him out of it. I personally feel like if Hanzi characters were taken completely out of Chinese it would take a huge chunk out of Chinese culture. They've been developing for 5000 years and it just kinda feels wrong.
lmao you're somewhat right actually
"Oh fuck it were done, start from scratch"
hahaha... well i gotta learn the japanese language so i can say a lot of japanese Swear words to say to the damned bullies,i was like *GOD DAMN IT!* when he said 2000 Syllabaries .i can understand why the koreans started from scratch the chinese characters are very confusing especially the tones when you say chinese words and your president is shite including the ideology of your government damned comies
English: FAMILY
Korean: KAJOK
Japanese: KAZOKU
Korean: *GAJOK
Bae Dohyun It can also be spelled in English with the letter G, so it can be KAJOK or GAJOK. I was stationed in KUNSAN, sometimes spelled GUNSAN, and I love eating BULKOGI or BULGOGI
@@MrYougotcaught I know very well about that. I suppose your intention was to show how they similarly sound, then it had to be precise this case
Bae Dohyun well of of course my intentions was to show the similarities. What did you think I was doing? Showing differences? Lol
@@MrYougotcaught Oh my goodness, why are you triggered?
비디오는 너무 좋아요! 전 한국어를 배우는 한국에 사는 미국인이에요 ^0^ 일본어와 스페인어도 배우고 싶어요. 시간이 더 필요해요!
😘
한국어 잘하시네요^^♡
omg i wanna learn english, spanish, japanese too :) i' korean
저희 나라를 사랑해 줘서 정말 감사합니다
Wow.. Your Korean is very very good....
Korean is really difficult, Hangeul is easy.
Japanese is easy, Kanji is really difficult.
Japanese is not easy.
Guy Withaname ive been learning the language and i can have conversations wich my japanese friends and girlfriend but the thing is im still learning hiragana so learning the language with just romaji is easy but the writing systems arent especially in japanese
Japanese pronunciation is easy, but there are other aspects of the language that are difficult, besides the kanji.
@@guywithaname5408 korean grammar is not easy too...
Guy Withaname i believe the pronunciation is
한국어를 모르고 이 정도 비교할 수 있다는 거 자체가 대단하다.
I think You just missed that Korean also has formal language so you should have compared with it. But I think you are amazing! Thank you for sharing this video.
Brent Park Japanese also has formal and familiar language.
ㅇㅈ해야댐
George Penton I think he meant to compare the formalities of both languages
I know that, but he never compare with Korean formal language
저도 같은 생각이에요. 정말 깜짝 놀랐어요.
私も同じ考えです。本当にびっくりしました。
I totally agree with you. I was really superise.
Korean Writing system called Hangeul is absolutely easy
to learn so anybody can master within a day
but Korean language is difficult to learn
However, Japanese language is easy to learn but Japanese writing system is very difficult and complicate to learn
when u listen 2 maori & any of the languges in africa, they sound so similar 2 japanese, i think those languages are so easy 4 others to speak.
Exactly.
Hiragana and Katakana are easy enough. Kanji is another story...
+Lucas Williams maybe they are kinda easy enough to learn for you, but still japanese are using kanji with hiragana & katakana(which could be complicated to read & write japanese properly, you can see them even in the japanese comic books as well), but koreans don't need to use chinese characters with hangul at all, & hangul system is way easier & sicentific than any of other languages in the world(plz don't be mad, i'm just saying what it is). even korean alphabet hangul is the easiest alphabet to be memorised, everybody can read & write in hangul in 15mins). This is what all the linguists are talking about. i personally like japanese & maori languages as well, cuz they are easy to speak, but to be honest, korean language system especially hangul is one of the most greatest work of human being in the world i guess.
As a Korean, I feel proud of the writing system King Sejong and his scholars created.. but at the same time sorry for foreigners who have to deal with all the cumbersome suffixes lol.
I live in Japan and have been struggling to learn Japanese for two years. My Korean co-worker picked it up so fast! Now I see why.
i believe that you as an English native speaker can pick up German or Dutch faster than your Korean speaking co worker; your Korean speaking co worker must be struggling much much more than you in picking up German or Dutch as you do on Japanese..............
@@psuirsea5522 I have a japanese friend. He even didn't learn Korean, but he was understanding my korean conversation with another friend. I was shocked.
Some koreans can learn Japanses by just watching anime without learning text book. Learning japanese speaking and listening would be really easy for koreans. But writting and reading is hard for koreans since they use many chinese characters in writting.
@@nagnusyo
interesting..............
이 형 갱스터나 격투가처럼 생겼는데
머리쓰는 사람이구나
ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
외국에서 외모를 지적하는 것은 실례입니다.
@@user-ks4ru9uj4r 님은 그냥 고독하게 계세요...
I’ve never seen this kind of video. His summary is so good! You’re the best.
I'm learning both Korean and Japanese, when I was looking at the Japanese grammar I found some sound similar. Like LangFocus said, it has to be related.
I am Korean who speaks Japanese and I approve this vid.
Loved this video -- exactly what I was asking myself. Very nice research and presentation.
*shows N.Korean flag*
S.Koreans : well yes but actually no
CZcams: 0:03
Me: wat dah FAAAAAAAAAAA
Correct.
You did a great job on this video. It was clear, concise, no politics, and no favoritism. Impressive! Thank you. Keep them coming.
As a Korean, I don't think I could ever explain Korean better than him :) He was so intelligent in this kind of knowledge.
This video motivated me to learn Korean. (Im a Japanese speaker.)
韓国語勉強がんばってください。
私は日本語ができる韓国人です。
The two languages really are very similar! I started leaning Japanese and then when I thought I somehow got to a level where I could manage basic communication, I started learning Korean... Now I'm completely mixed up....
マジですか！
日本語上手ね！( ´ ▽ ` )
한국어 배우세요ㅋㅋ
It's absolutely right, I've been learning korean for one a half years and I've started to learn japanese these days in korean language, to be honest I totally more understand while learning japanese in korean rather than in english. it's bcz they both have a similar pattern as well as have a lot similar vocabs so it's quite getting me easier to understand... 🇯🇵🇰🇷
Just came across this channel seeing the difference between Russian and Ukrainian. Looked informative and was curious about how he handles Korean vs. Japanese. I was born in Korea but studied & worked in Japan for 10+ years. I consider myself fluent in both languages. This is a good intro and very accurate. IMHO it's easier for Korean to learn to communicate in Japanese. I find that the Japanese tend to have a harder time picking up the Korean pronunciation. BUT even when Koreans learn to speak Japanese fluently as an adult, many don't pick up the subtle Japanese accents, body language, and esoteric honorifics so it's easy to tell that they are not Japanese. Also, the grammar may be similar, communication style is quite different (....Korean tends to be more direct).
Both Korean and Japanese can't communicate with each other at all if they didn't learn opponent's language.
Of course. It is like French and Spanish or Italian.
Japanese can read some Chinese and Chinese can read some Japanese. But both Japanese and Chinese cannot read a single word of Korean in 2019.
According to my dad(he's speaks Korean fluently), Some words are the same(if you just say the word(s))
In my case, i learned chinese character(hanza) when i was young. And hanza helps me learn japanese well. Pronunce of korean word is simillar with japanese hanza.
From what I heard though they can learn the other language relatively quickly because the grammar/syntax is so similar
Korean -ida -imnida
Japanese -da -desu
@@technocrats5887 일본천황이 스스로 백제혈통이라고 하는마당에 븅신인가ㅋㄱㄱ
@꼬미튜브TuBe
백제가 전해준건 한자인데 그게 백제것임?
@DushmanYT mask×2
You idiot. Japanese : masu and desu.
You id
Masu 합니다
Desu 입니다
My wife comes from kyungsang providence in South Korea where their dialect has a bit of up and down intonation compared to the flat Seoul dialect. When I hear Japanese speakers speak from a distance and don’t try to focus real hard I sometimes think they are speaking in kyungsang dialect because the intonation sounds similar. I’ve smiled a number of times coming closer to these speakers realizing they were speaking in Japanese.
That's because southern parts of the peninsular used to be Japonic in ancient times. Proto-Korean speakers are from Manchuria.
@@yo2trader539 Wrong theory. The theory is not accepted even in Japanese historical circles.
@@yo2trader539 고대에 일본이었던 것이 아닌 고대에 현대의 일본어와 같은 계통의 언어를 사용했을 것이라 추정됩니다. 역사서에서 이 한반도 남부의 사람들은 북부의 한국인과 독립적인 존재였던 것으로 묘사됩니다. (중국 고대 역사서에, 고조선이 한반도 남부와 중계 무역을 했다는 자료가 있습니다.)
그러나 완벽하게 독립적이지 못했고 한반도 북부의 영향권 아래에 놓여져 있었던 것으로 추정됩니다. 한반도 남부에서 한반도 북부 지배자들이 사용했던 제례 도구들이 확인됩니다.
한반도 남부와 한반도 북부의 사람들은 상당히 특색이 달랐습니다. 중국과 한국의 고대 역사서에서는 고조선 멸망 후 이들을 예맥과 한으로 구분하고 있습니다. 그러나 이 시기의 '한'은 한반도 북부의 사람들과 같은 민족 정체성을 지녔다. 한반도 북부와 남부가 서로 다른 정체성을 지녔던 것은 고조선의 이전.
한반도 고대 국가들은 예맥과 한으로 나뉘는데 이들은 서로 다른 문화적 특징을 지녔고 그 기원이 서로 다르다고 믿었지만, 한편으로는 서로를 같은 민족으로 인식했다. 그들은 서로의 국가에 유사성을 느꼈으며 삼국시대에는 서로를 '정복의 대상'이 아닌 '통일의 대상'으로 인지하였다. 이것은 그들이 서로를 완전히 다른 민족이 아닌 같은 민족으로 인식하였음을 뒷받침한다.
한반도 북부의 사람들이 남부로 이주하며 이들은 밀려나거나 한반도에 남아 한반도 북부인과 동화되었다. 밀려난 사람들은 일본으로 넘어가 도래인이 되었다. 남은 사람들은 10세기까지도 완전히 동화되지 않고 있던 것으로 추정된다. 그러나 이들은 한국인과 개별적인 민족 의식을 가지고 있지는 않았다.
이러한 학설은 일본과 한국 양국에서 모두 적극적으로 받아들여지진 않지만 해외에선 어느정도 연구가 진척되었다.
특히 학자가 아닌 대부분의 일반 민중들은 이 학설을 받아들이길 꺼린다.
한국에서는 '한반도 남부의 원래 주인은 일본인'이라고 오해될 수 있기 때문에,
일본에서는 '일본 국민은 원래 한국인'이라고 오해될 수 있기 때문이다.
@@yo2trader539 lol, the internet is full of bullshit isnt it?
@@yo2trader539 미국이 현재 영국보다 크다고 해서 미국이 원조가 아니듯, 일본이 지금 한국 보다 강하다고 해서 일본이 한반도를 지배했다는 내용은 사실이 아니다, 고대 대륙(현재 중국과 만주지역)에서 여러 민족들이 전쟁을 하고 경쟁할때, 섬나라인 일본은 고립되고 발전이 늣어졌다. 인구의 기초가 되는 벼농사 부터 , 군사력의 척도가 되는 철기 다루는 법 까지 한반도를 거쳐서 넘어갔고, 많은 한국인 이민자들이 건너가 일본을 건국하는데 도움을 주었다, 1560~80년대 , 오다 노부나가와 토요토미 히데요시가 일본 전국을 통일하기 까지 일본은 개별적인 봉건제인데 반해, 한반도는 삼국시대 (AD 50~640) 부터 중앙정부가 지방관을 파견하는 중앙 집권적인 나라였다. 일본의 해적들이 한반도 남부와 중국 남부에 해적질을 쑽하게 벌인 일을 점령해서 다스렸다라는 개념으로 이야기하면 안된다.
Excellent video ! Thanks for pointing out the differences ! I'm currently trying to learn Korean on my own , I really like Japanese as well but it looks like so much more work to learn because of what you mentioned about the number of symbols they have.
Living for almost 6 years in Korea, I learned and speak Korean. I recently got into studying Japanese, and I'm learning it with a Korean textbook since it made more sense to study it with a language very similar to it. I can very much agree to your points in this video because it's the same things I realized while learning Japanese. Besides having to memorize Chinese characters (I don't know much hanja either), learning Japanese feels much more comfortable. I also finally got the answer as to why some Chinese characters sound different in Chinese, Korean and Japanese. I always thought that there's only one definite way of reading a Chinese character. Btw, great content!
In fact, the advantage of Chinese characters is they *can* be pronounced totally differently across many languages! Even within China, a person speaking Fuzhounese and Cantonese may not be able to understand each other, but they'll usually be able to read the same books/signs/etc!
I like how the Japanese word for promise is 约束, which in Chinese it means restrictions, which is kinda true , when you promise something, then you are kinda restricted and less free in a way
Good observation!
Russia Good Kim Jong Un spotted
Russia Good
What the fuck? All he talked about what the Japanese language. Calm the fuck down. Also people dislike the North Korean *government*, not North Korean people.
Russia Good got owned. I didn't make a joke about North Korea, I made a joke about triggered idiots getting angry about flags in my thumbnails. Then Russia Good walked right in and got triggered about the flag, except from the opposite side of the spectrum. As for that joke being "racist"...lololol.
So many clowns in the CZcams comments.
I always want to know that.Thank you for doing this video.Its really great!
Very good analysis. 잘 분석해 주셔서 감사합니다. ♡♡♡
욇굵인듦읺 잃걻 앎앉볾숛있읅깞 않맚 핞굵읺듦많 앎앖봃숝있겠짊
ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ씼빯
- 왏 밇칞 싰밝 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
- 갲웄깄넭ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
원리를 알면 읽을 수 있을거 같은데요.
Your choice of music makes your lectures engaging and interesting. thank you for creating content like this
What an interesting point. I think you get the logic in language comparison quite well. I hope you can keep doing your great work.
Well, I'm Brazilian and I'd like to learn Korean and Japanese one day, both of them are beautiful languages
Japonês não é tão difícil. Difícil é aprender kanji.
@@piadas804 finalmente um br! Meu prof de inglês já tentou aprender e apanhou muito por causa do kanji
@@marianemenezescoelho4493 sim, anos para lembrar. Mas japonês falado não é tão difícil, já que a pronúncia é fácil e a gramática é simples e tem poucas exceções.
@@piadas804 sim a pronúncia é fácil principalmente em relação ao inglês e ao coreano.
@@marianemenezescoelho4493 somos dois!
so basically while koreans decided to simplify chinese writing system japanese decided to make it more complicated lol
haha
Japanese has many simplified Chinese characters (vs traditional characters used in Taiwan/HK or Korean newspapers a few decades back), so there was actually a conscious attempt to simplify it, at least a little. There are some disadvantages in reading comprehension to completely removing Hanja/Kanji, assuming that the reader is educated in Hanja/Kanji.
korean: damn its complicated lets just change it to hangul
japanese: how about we two more writing system to an already complicated one
Korean papers sometimes use chinese characters and you have to learn them
@@Forgeries not really.. Maybe in like 40yrs past from now? It's same in North Korea too
Fantastic summary! Very well done! From a native speaker of Japanese and a student of many other languages.
Very good video. Great job. I always thought that phonetically without any understanding of either language, they sound similar to the ear. The way the words and sentences end are a dead give away.
your videos are amazing. well searched, very informational and accurate enough!
Thank you! Are you Korean or Japanese?
@@Langfocus i'm korean with only small knowledge in Japanese ^^
Awsome...you explained very well...👍👍👍👍👍👍
Korean writing system is definetly a great motivation to learn Korean rather than Japanese or Chinese. Sejong was a wise man for sure.
İsmail Çelik My opinion is that both China and Japan would receive immense benefits from adopting Hangup as their writing system. It is not that they abadon their own writing system, but adopting Hangul as their primary tool for writing to rid their inefficiency.
@Blue Lights
Japanese needs Kanji, because without it too many words are spoken the same way but mean different things
コイノ/ Koino Kanji has very distinctive look. Without them, Japanese people would have tough time to be able to read and understand quickly. The other benefit of Kanji is that it provides various meaning in few characters taking little spaces in sentences that are already taking wide spaces with Katakana making sentences longer. For Korean, the dependecy on Kanji is less. For the most part, people can get away withnot using them, but when thing get complicated to convey meaning in right way, Kanji would be provided.
Wet Sponge You are right. Korean writing system was invented in 16c. Before and still after that Chinese writing had been adopted, but as Korean writing system gained momentum getting popular for easy of use bypassing the much efforts were needed to learn time consuming Chinese character, nowadays the necessity to learn has been much lessened. However, due to the fact that 50% of the vocaburaries loanerwords from Chinese, it helps to learn Chinese a little bit. Learning to write Korean is worth spending time for it take a very little time to master it, but learning the language is a different thing with much grammar and etc.
Jacky Chew Prof. Reischauer mentioned that people from SE Asia also migrated to the islands as seen in their wearing Fondoshi and shoddy constructions that are seen in tropical region, which he claims that as rather uncharastical elements found in the islands' climate.
Such a great video! Thank you!
Langfocus님 감사합니다!
Dude, your video was so amazing. Let me put it bluntly, your comparison of these two languages, it's so to speak "totally scientific" in my personal eyes. If it had been for your sharpness sight and good capacity for language analysis, I would have been a great lingual expert in my life. But I couldn't do that. :D Man, you're awesome.
I lived and worked in Korea and it was the best place ever. I learnt how to read Han-Gul in a day, It was that easy,,, Speaking was not easy at all. However, I could order things in shops,markets and restaurants, Further more I could instruct a taxi chauffeur to get to places around Daegu, the town I lived in at the time.
l iove Korea.
Come and visit Daegu again. but not in summer
This is such a sweet comment!
Very nice sr, it was very interesting to watch and very informative 😀
Thank you for the great video. I loved how it was concise and easy to understand!
I speak english and japanese, and started learning korean this month.
from the comments, sounds like korean speakers find it easier to pick up japanese. Gonna hope the other way also is easy.
This is the first time i saw the video that compares two languages, but i confidently ensure as a Korean that this clip is one of the most well-made videos comparing two languages.Not only contents but also the structure is organized very perfectly and well. The explanation is so easy to understand that the whole contents could be fully absorbed. Furthermore,both the pronunciation and speed was easy to follow it was a fun time to see your clip! x) Thanks!
Thank you! I’m glad you liked it! I hope I have some other videos you find interesting too. 👍🙂
@@Langfocus I am a native Korean speaker and quite fluent in Japanese. This is the best video/material comparing the two languages to the public audience so far.
hotto dogu
hanbaagaa 🍔
lol
+Leonardo Moraes HOTTO DOGU
I don't why im cracking up on this 😂😂😂😂😂
+Nathália Isabella so pretty
+Leonardo Moraes hotto dogu! vely nice plice.
Love your work, thank you Paul 🫡
perfect explanation. thanks!!
This video is very helpful to me. I really interested in Japanese and Korean languages because I can speak Korean and little Japanese. When I speak Japanese, I really confused my pronunciation especially similar pronunciation words. This video give me a answer, why I confus my pronunciation. I really appreciate this video. Thank you!
l like korea and japan
same here
i like japan!!
Japan is my favorite so far, very polite people.
중일평화 韓中日平和 한 i like trains
Your name is very interesting ;-)
Many thanks for this interesting information!
This was really interesting to watch! I can speak, read (well at a Japanese 2nd grader level, I'm still studying kanji), and understand Japanese and I know a few phrases in Korean. It's so fascinating to watch these two languages side by side and seeing their similarities and differences..
Your Korean pronunciation is pretty good. Thank you for making a good video. I am a Korean and I am a beginner level of Japanese. Your video is very interesting.
띄어쓰기의 중요성
Importance of spacing words
내동 생고기
Nae-dong raw meat (Nae-dong is the city’s name)
내동생고기
My brother’s flesh
But does the pronunciation differ?
@@fabienvdp545 the accent would be different.
@@mybloodyvalentine2316 I understand, thanks
좆까 = 좆 까
I love it 🤣🤣🤣
You're so smart dude, thank you for these videos.
Very helpful video, Thanks.
와 이분 일본어랑 한국어 공부 좀 많이 하셨네요. 통찰이 정확합니다. 일본어와 한국어는 문법적 구조나 조사의 사용 등이 매우 유사하죠. 한자어를 공통으로 사용하기 때문에 발음이 비슷한 단어도 굉장히 많습니다.
근데 반말하고 존댓말은 구별 잘 못하는듯..ㅋㅋㅋ
@@gmvisck 반존대전법!
언어학자시니까 ㅋㅋ
何について話してるの??
한자어가 아니라 한문..
As a native Japanese speaker, I have to say this was an extremely clear elucidation. Nice one!
Are you half Japanese?
True dat
Japanese is so hard
I was listening to K Pop Music. They have two versions of the songs, each Song is recorded in Japanese and in Korean.
Took me 2 Months to realise that I was listening to the japanese Version of some songs😂
LOL
It's the same when I download a chinese movie. I never know if I downloaded the original cantonese audio or I'm watching a mandarim dub
오우 감사합니다! 흥미로운 영상이였어요! ^^
I'm Korean-American but my Korean is not fluent. I also watch a lot of anime using English subtitles and every now and then, I'll hear some words that sound similar or exactly the same in Korean, for example...
Japanese: Anzen (safe)
Korean: Ahnjeon 안전 (safe)
Japanese: Joonbi (prepare)
Korean: Joonbi 준비 (prepare)
Japanese: Kazoku (family)
Korean: Gajohk 가족 (family)
Japanese: Dochaku (arrive)
Korean: Dochak 도착 (arrive)
Japanese: Keisan (calculation)
Korean: Gyesan 계산 (calculation)
Japanese: Ryori (cook)
Korean: Yori 요리 (cook)
Japanese: Kiboon (feeling)
Korean: Giboon 기분 (feeling)
Japanese: Kantan (easy)
Korean: Gandan 간단 (easy)
Japanese: Arubaito (part time job)
Korean: Areubaiteu 아르바이트 (part time job)
Japanese: Shoujiki (honestly)
Korean: Soljiki 솔직히 (honestly)
Japanese: Jikan (time)
Korean: Shigan 시간 (time)
Japanese: Shinbun (newspaper)
Korean: Shinmun 신문 (newspaper)
all of these words are not native to the two languages. thay are all loanwords from chian
WRONG!
eg. 気分 (ki-bun)(feeling) is a totally japanese invention.
Those words are invented by Japanese in CHINESE morphology. If they are in Japanese, they should be words like サポる ビビる where there is suffix
kenlau135 Arbeit is from German though..
Followings are the Mandarin pronunciation, by orderly:
Anquan
Zhunbei
Jiating(in many dialects pronuce Ga )
Daoda
Jisuan
Liaoli
Qifen
Shouxin
Shijian
Xinwen
Only the partime job one in Chinsese pronunces very differently
When you were going over the sentences with the colored words in order to explain the meaning of each one individually, it really helped me to understand the grammar, so great job. I have been trying to learn japanese but the grammar is so different from english that it has proved very difficult, but in this video the way you explained it was pretty easy to understand. Do you know of any service that uses the same or a similar method to teach japanese grammar? It would really help. Also if you have any other tips on learning the language in general it would be appreciated.
+A to Rhombus Try Japanese in 5.
try pimsleur
+A to Rhombus do you live in japan?
Cleb Felm
No lol, I live in america
+A to Rhombus lmao wowwww. true weeb. You can't even speak to Japanese people in person, wtf is the point 😆
Love your videos!!! Please keep it up man!
great comparison vid!!
Very accurate explanation!
Interesting piece; I studied Korean and I often travel there. Koreans in the south still use the hanja in newspapers, official documents, and in much of their scholarly work. You will also see it on television shows used to describe something or for a name to ensure precise identification.
Great video!
Well, I think it would be much more interesting if you will introduce on this channel about the simmilarity between the Gugyeol(구결) and Kana system, both of which had/have been used as phonetic symbols by loaning chinese characters that have similar sound.
I'm a native speaker of Korean and English (I'm from a mixed background). I was born in Korea, and lived there until I was 9, then moved to Scotland. I'm 16 now, I regularly use Korean at home to speak with my mum and sister, but I haven't been to Korea in 7 years, so unfortunately my Korean isn't up to par anymore. However, I think this played to my advantage, because one day I was going through random CZcams videos, and I came across a past TV show. My speaker's volumes were low, so initially I assumed that the language I heard was Korean, although I was unsure why I couldn't understand it. When I turned the volume up, it was quite apparent that it was Japanese, which was a huge surprise. I looked into Japanese a bit, and I was pleasantly surprised at how similar it was to Korean. I might try learning it in the future, but first I'm going to focus on improving my Korean.
Man the same thing happened to me when i was a kid 😂 i thought it was Japanese, but it turned out to be Korean since i noticed there are more vowels when they spoke
日本語と韓国語の文法は似ているから、日本人にとってとても勉強がしやすい。
韓国人にも日本語を習いやすいです、アニメを見てきただけで日本語で簡単な対話が可能でです w
@@T8kazamajunLabo 韓国と日本仲良くなれたらいいね👍♡
Please let me know what you mean in English.
@@lichtundwasser9044 a little bit racism
한영민 왜요 그냥 물어본 것 같은데ㅜ
너무 흥미로운 주제네요 한국어자막덕분에 잘 봤습니다
I speak Mandarin Chinese, studied Japanese up to around N2 level, then learnt Korean (currently around TOPIK Level 4-5 level). It was a breeze learning Korean because most of the higher-level vocabulary come from Chinese words and have similar/relatable pronunciation, the grammar structures are so similar to Japanese, and the honorific system in Korean is much easier to master than Japanese in my opinion.
I like the korean system of writing more.
someone invented Nihon no Hangul. yes. blasphemous to Japanese
is not that bad xD
haha Excuse you ! I hate to trouble it. What the hell are you doing on my country flag back off! I warn you of putting flipping image you use on youtube profile picture!'
Plus, where I am here we learned, Japanese ancient letters are debunked and faked.
Fyi, There's ancient Korean characters called Idu Hyangchal, Gugyeol. Japanese Kana scripts aren't Japanese invention but actually originated from ancient Korea. There's new study being conducted by both Korea & Japan on this after oldest written texts in kana script had hidden Idu symbol next to it. So there you go, go & learn something new every day.
***** Really? so tat means even Katagana/Hiragana are all Chinese then. How come Chinese don't use these Chinese script anymore? why roman alphabet?
5:54 "ma-eul" had been pronounced as "mozolh" in Middle Korean. 6:10 "wi-ei" had been "wuh" in Middle Korean, which recoded as Old Korean "oko", and "u-e" had been pronouced "upe", from Proto-Japonic "*upai". 6:21 Korean "e" had been pronounced "ey" in Middle Korean, and Japanese "e" had been pronounced "pye" in Old Japanese. 6:25 Both of Korean and Japanese subect markers "ga" are developed from genitive particles independently. As going older forms, they go more far aparted. Those words may not be relatives.
Jp "ga" is actually a nasal voice "nga" too. (Tokyo dialect)
Yeah, they kinda converged in some ways
im learning both of them and knowing some things of one and others of the other one made me understand a lot of things i didnt understand and im-- so grateful
Esse cara é muito bom! (This guy is great!)
I am Japanese learning Korean. The more I learn Korean, the more similarities I find between the two languages. Not only grammar and syntax are similar, expressions are also very similar (or the same, I would say..). You said in the video that the vocabulary is remarkably different, but I disagree. Actually the vocabulary is very very similar. It is, however, not due to the Chinese loanwords, I would say. I don't know much about the history of languages, so I cannot say definitely, but Korean and Japanese share lots of 漢字語（한자어), which can be translated as Chinese character words, but actually those Chinese words did NOT come directly from China. I guess many of them had been developed by either Korean or Japanese, using Chinese letters and combining them into words. For example, insomnia in Japanese is 不眠症 and 불면증 in Korean. Now they don't use Chinese characters in Korea, but there used to be Chinese characters for 불면증. If you put them back in Chinese characters, then it becomes exactly 不眠症. But in Chinese itself the word is 失眠, so it is a different word. Japanese and Korean share the same word, but not Chinese. ...and there are so many of words like this.. Now as you noted, the pronunciation is pretty different between Korean and Japanese, so it's hard for Japanese to catch Korean words, and vice versa. However there is a pretty consistent sound conversion rule between Korean character and Japanese character. 不(fu) is 불(pul) and 眠(min) is 면(myoun) and 症(sho) is 증(jyun) etc, and once you master the rule, you can pretty comfortably convert back and forth between Korean and Japanese. So whenever I read/listen to Korean, I try to find 漢字語（한자어=Chinese character words) in it using the sound conversion rule, and once I am successful, I can know the meaning right away, since the chances are it is the same word we use in Japanese. On top of this, the grammar, syntax and expressions are similar, so it is like learning a dialect, not a foreign language (I don't mean Korean is a dialect of Japanese, Korean people can say Japanese is a dialect of theirs!).
the vocabulary and the morphology of proto-japanese and proto-korean are very different. you would not understand anything if you compare the proto-languages.
but over time and with big influence the languages get more similar, + the chinese influence.
so it the morphology of japanese similar to southeast-asian languages and not similar to korean.
and proto-korean morphology is not similar to any living languages. some similariteis are found with the isolated nivkh language.
but it still is japanese and korean are isolated, from all language of world korean and japanese are today the most similar compared to other non related languages. but there origin is today isolated. only some linguists say that japanese is related to a proto-austronesian/polynesian family
Junko I
Is it possible influence from colonial times?
some of the korean words are actually from the japanese language (during japanese imperialism)
Someone wrote exactly what you said
www.quora.com/Where-did-the-Japanese-people-originate-from/answer/Alex-Wong-254
Woosuk Lee but we think it's slang(bad word) cuz it's from japan when 2nd world war
ffs what a well put together video, learnt a lot, thanks
You're very welcome! I hope you like my other ones too. :)
Very.
impressive.
It warms my heart to see you studying Asian languages too. They are so different from the European languages. You’re doing well
As a Korean, you explained so well.😊 And your Korean pronunciation is good enough. Actually, I was kind of surprised at your pronunciation. Seriously, That was great.
I heard that the Japanese word of “Future” is “Mirai” and the Korean word of “Future” is “Mirae”. They’re similar, right?
yeap China Korea Japan all share that word (未来 wei lai) (未来 みらい mirai) (미래 未來 mirae)
그거 다 한자에서 온 거라 그럼.
thats because there was a time when all of these powers used the same language. all korean, chinese, japanese letters are based on a similar form of chinese. the reason korean looks different is because the writing is different.
@@Lyh0619 Even still, the grammar is disturbingly similar. It's like Korean and Japanese were related in some way, but lived radically different lives. So much so that most of it seems unrecognizable until you get to the weird Chinese words and some outliers.
Korean word Muri, Japanese word Muri.
this two words mean English word unreasonable
I’m studying Japanese and I’ve always been so curious about this, thank you! I plan on learning Korean in a few years as well and this made me feel so much better haha. No more kanji!!! 😭
I really appreciated this video @Langfocus! The best vid abt those 2 languages I found in English!
I‘m half Swiss and half Korean and want to begin learning Japanese now as I‘m interested and luv anime. Do you have any suggestions how I should start?
I really love your videos.
Thank you, Adam. 🙂
I studied both Japanese and Korean, and I am a Mongolian native speaker. Grammatically all three languages are so similar. It really didn’t take much to understand and feel the structures and the uses of sentence orders, suffixes and etc. for me. All I had to do was learning vocabulary and speak.
Learning to write and read in Japanese is so hard. I just gave up after learning the basic 2000 characters. 2000 is not enough to fluently communicate.
I love Korean writing system. So simple and effective. It took me about an hour to memorize all the alphabets. For full scale correct reading and writing, it would require to learn words and some specific Korean language features. I would say it’s a perfect writing system fit for Korean language; and anyone who is thinking about creating own script/writing system should have a look.
My Kazakh friends say Mongolian and Kazakh languages are very similar too.
I saw somewhere the hypothesis that Hangul was inspired by 'Phags-pa, that beautiful Mongolian ancient script.
They share the characteristic of relating shape to sound, and they also share a few shapes for the same sounds.
That connection could have been hidden for political reasons, or it could have never existed. In any case, it's interesting either way.
I wish I could use any of them (or Devanagari) in Spanish... Maybe I will ;)
Im on the same boat as you are currently in. Im a Korean and currently studying Japanese, and also having massive hard time on kanjis.. they say you have to learn atleast 6000~8000 kanjis to be an average person in Japan.. and Im here struggling with few hundreds already..
I thought Kazakh was closely related to Kyrgyz.
Both Kazakh and Kyrghiz are Kichak turkic languages.
이소망 도와줄게 날 페북 추가
일본사람이에요.나는 한국어를 공부하고 있어요. 한국어는 아주 어려워요.하지만 한국의 한자어는 닮고 쉬워요.
Korean is easy to get started in, on account of the writing system being really easy, but it gets more difficult because of the phonetics of the language. Japanese is quite difficult to get started in because of how hard the writing system is to learn but gets easier because of the phonetics. :)
Exactly
Its funny lol
Thank you for this great channel ! subscribed :D
I’m Korean. So I found a fact you didn’t explained. Both Japanese and Korean have a polite expression.
Opinions
@@stevebeave9252 I think he was talking about honorifics.
Korean copied Japanese u mean
@@imagine_8681 where did the Japanese come from probably korea
@@imagine_8681 ? than did english copied latin? I don't know how language can 'copy' others. your words are useless you know?
Thanks for your good video!
After having lived many years in mainland China and Japan and taking both my HSk5 and JLPT 3... I went for a trip to korea. I did a small course and noticed alot of similarities.. so i simply googled japanese vs korean and there i found you..
all my suspicions were correct.. thx for confirming it.. I just saved myself 50hours of learning korean..
new favorite channel.
The main reason why Korean and Japanese pronunciation of Chinese loan words is different is the geographical distance from Chinese mainland. Since Japan is farther from China it retained the pronounciation of ancient Chinese as early as Chin-Han dynasty. On the other hand, Korea, which is much geographically closer to China, kept updating the pronounciation as late as Tang dynasty. Thus, there is almost 900 year gap between the way they read Chinese characters.
なるほど！Thanks for your comment.勉強になりました
Maybe not. In Chin-Han dynasties, Japan has little connection except for Xu Fu, however, we don’t know whether he actually reached Japan. While Japan had a lot of communication during Tang
@@user-km4gx8pl4j Hi~ here comes my rebuttal. It is true that Japan had little exposure to Chinese culture during the time of Chin-Han dynasty. However, the Sino characters were early introduced through the portals of ancient kingdoms that were situated in Korean peninsula, mostly Baekje(Kudara in Japanese pronunciation). The pronunciation of Chinese loan words that were introduced to Japan at that ancient times were Chin-Han pronunciation.
Actually that s not the whole story. Korean kept updating their pronunciation until late Tshing dynasty while Japanese absorbed chinese characters' pronunciation from several areas which uses paralleled versions of chinese.
This makes sense because Vietnamese words of Chinese origin sound closer to their Korean counterparts than the Japanese ones.
I often explain to Westerners that the influence of Chinese on East Asian languages like Japanese, Korean, Vietnamese etc. is akin to the influence of say Latin or Greek on European languages. In English, we use a higher volume of English words in our regular daily speech, such as lots, dog, cat, friendly, gift, light etc. However, in more academic language, English uses more Latin and/or Greek words
e.g.:
lots (English) = multiple (Latin)
dog (English) = canine (Latin)
friendly (English) = amicable (Latin)
light (English) = photon (Greek)
water (English) = aqua (Latin) = hydro (Greek)
gift (English) = donation (Latin)
traveller (English) = voyager (Latin v. French) = planet (Greek)
etc.
Likewise many East Asian languages such as Japanese will use a higher volume of indigenous words in their daily speech, but are more inclined to use a greater amount of Chinese loanwords in more technical or academic language.
e.g.
eat = taberu/食べる (Japanese) = shoku/食 (Chinese)
water = mizu/水 (Japanese) = sui/水 (Chinese)
learn = manabi/学び (Japanese) = gaku/学 (Chinese)
talk = hanashi/話 (Japanese) = wa/話 (Chinese)
war = ikusa/戦 (Japanese) = sen/戦 (Chinese)
conceal = shinobi/忍び (Japanese) = nin/忍 (Chinese)
blade = katana/刀 (Japanese) = tou/刀 (Chinese)
etc.
I don't speak Korean either (there's my disclaimer), but from my limited understanding, it works in a similar way. Also, be careful when comparing say Sino-Japanese words with Modern Chinese, because bear in mind that languages like Japanese and Korean did not inherit their Chinese words from Modern Chinese, but from Old or Middle Chinese (e.g. Tang Dynasty etc.) -- and the way that Chinese was spoken back then is significantly different from Modern Chinese (akin to comparing say Old English with Modern English). And especially Mandarin Chinese, which is more descendant or influenced by Manchurian rather than Chinese (because China was ruled by Manchurians during the Qing Dynasty).
But this is the same as how English doesn't pronounce Latin or Greek words in the same way that they were pronounced in Latin or Greek (and even then, pronunciation varied depending on which period you're looking at). For example, the word "canine" is pronounced "kay-nine" in English, but in Latin it's 'canis,' which is pronounced as, "kah-niss." Also, Classical Latin speakers would've pronounced the letter "v" as 'w' (so the word for "winning" was pronounced as "wik-toree-ah"); in Vulgar Latin it became like the 'v' sound that we know today, and thus 'victoria' was like the way we pronounce it today (vik-toree-ah).
Very well-explained. It would be a good idea to look towards the different dialects of Southern China for a rough idea of how Old/Middle Chinese sounded like. There are also plenty of Chinese characters used in Old/Middle Chinese that are no longer used today but still preserved in their original form in these dialects.
As a native speaker of the Southern Min dialect (閩南語) in Taiwan (臺灣), the southern part of Fujian (福建省) and the eastern part of Guangdong (廣東省), I know of many words that are no longer used in present-day written Chinese but are still used in spoken dialect.
"Hungry" in Southern Min: 枵 iau
"Hungry" in Mandarin: 餓 é
"Walk" in Southern Min: 行 kia-
"Walk" in Mandarin: 走 zou
"Run" in Southern Min: 走 zao
"Run" in Mandarin: 跑 pao
"Very" in Southern Min: 尚 shionng
"Very" in Mandarin: 最 zui
"Pregnant" in Southern Min: 有身 uu-sinn
"Pregnant" in Mandarin: 懷孕 huai yun
"Chopsticks" in Southern Min: 箸 tu
"Chopsticks" in Japanese: 箸 hashi
"Chopsticks" in Mandarin: 筷子 kuaizi
Other words include: 查埔 (tsa-po / ta-po), 查某 (tsa-bo), 厝 (chu), 頗面 (phui bin), 蠱蠱纒 (goa goa ti), 壓迮 (ap chah), 女隋 (sui) / 雅 (ngiaa), 恥己 (ti-khi), 鹹灼灼 (giam dok-dok), 溜韁 (lang kaug), 邂逅 (sio-kam), 且狂 (chhat-hsiao), 棄遐遺 (piah-nhiah-kak), 瑟瑟顫 (pi pi chhua), 㜸姬 (se-i), 輿謣叫 (hi hei kio), 雷戛儵爍, 蜚蠊 (kah-choah), 䗘蛘 (kau hia) etc.
Your average Mandarin speaker from the north of China wouldn't have any idea what any of the words above mean, because all these are words preserved from Old/Middle Chinese, that are still present in some Southern Chinese dialects
YummYakitori There are videos out there which show how old languages sound like, including Middle and Old Chinese. I don't speak Chinese, but to me, Middle Chinese sounds more like Teo Chew (?) and Old Chinese sounds more like Vietnamese -- at least to me (I could be completely wrong :p)
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Exactly, saying that Japanese and Korean borrowed words from Mandarin is like saying that English borrowed Latin words from modern Italian.
Excellent comment. Similar to language, they say if you want to experience traditional/ancient/pre-mongol Chinese culture, you find them in Japan.
정말 재미있습니다. 교육적이고, 재미있는 동영상입니다. 고마워요!
I hope CZcams can translate this to you guys :)