Finland Pays Me Comfortably without Me having to Work! || I’m now Rich
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Thank you for speaking up ❤️ Keep on with your good work 👍
Thank you, I will
The Kela card is automatically sent to everyone who is covered under the Finnish national health insurance system. But before you can receive social benefits, Kela must decide if you are considered to live permanently in Finland or not. And this consideration is influenced by factors such as if you are a returning migrant, if you have moved as an employee or entrepreneur, if you have a spouse or other close family ties to someone who resides permanently, if you are a student or a posted worker.
Other issues that may affect Kela’s decision are whether you come or not from one of the Nordic countries, from one of the European Union (EU) or European Economic Area (EEA) countries, from Switzerland or from another country with which Finland has a social security agreement.
You must keep in mind that if you come from a country outside the EU or the EEA and you are obliged to have a residence permit, then your permit must be valid at least for one year. If you are a citizen of an EU or EEA state or a Swiss citizen you do not need a residence permit. But still you must apply for the right of residence at the Finnish Immigration Service and register at the Finnish Population Information System in order to apply for coverage under the social security system.
How do I move to Finland from the USA? I have no Finnish connections or ancestry, but I really hate when people stand close to me.
@@1lapmagic do you have enough cash to live on, because at first you won't have any income if you haven't already got a job. you can look at the Finnish employment websites for open jobs, and what kind of education you have.
@@1lapmagicnot welcome
Greetings Gio, thank you for your videos and commentary on experiencing life in Finland. Unfortunately, I think most people who would leave a comment like what you highlighted in this video are basing their opinion on pure blissful ignorance and quite often heavily based on prejudice as well.
I see the value in making this reply video and have to say good job on explaining how you see the systems in place in Finland. Then again, personally I would say don't let a comment like that effect your thoughts too much, only a very small but often vocal minority could think like that without knowing basicly any of the background information regarding a certain individuals situation.
Having lived in several countries during the last couple of decades, I find your style of videos giving a very personal touch regarding my home country of Finland, very refreshing and quite often it reminds me of appreciating certain aspects which many of us who have lived and/or were born in Finland take for granted, or have forgotten about.
Keep up the good work and best of luck with all your future endeavours.
regards, most of Finnish ppl - living there or not ;)
Thanks for your video and contribution to our country branding Gio. Very wise words about immigrants, the value and importance of it and about KELA aswell. Take care Gio, you are good man. 👍
Thank you very much.
you are right, i hope you enjoy you live in Finland. Kela is important for poor people.
@@Apecesar it’s important for not-rich people.
E.g. student support comes from them
Good video! I hate when some Finns say that "KELA gave you the money to buy this and that".
I mean, yes, KELA is helping when you really need help, but not everyone gets automatically KELA benefits!
When I moved back to Finland a year ago and basically started my life again from a scratch, I didn't have a job, but I knew I could trust (as a Finnish national) that KELA will help me to pay at least some of my rent until I find a job. And that's what they did! (To be honest, the KELA housing benefit wasn't even close to enough to pay my rent.. but anyway) KELA is a support system for everyone who is living and paying taxes in Finland, but for an immigrant (from outside EU/EEA) who has just moved to Finland, I don't even think they are eligible to get any benefits.. At least it used to be like that, not sure if it has changed now..
Of course there are always those who are misusing/abusing the system, but... Don't even want to go there...
@@Emma-cu9ql and there's also those whom KELA leaves sort of in the lurch. Depending on which benefits you get and what is considered, the rules and 'paper trails' can be utterly ridiculous. I'm saying this is a student trying to re-educate myself and become a better providing part of the society instead of an unemployment number, sometimes they barely help you at all, and you have to fight tooth and nail to get your needs met.
Constant threats to cutting student benefits, general living benefit, new unemployment procedures - let's not forget 'aktiivimalli', which affected me squarely in the past, because I _could not_ get quite the full amount of bull**** quote fulfilled and what they docked was a nice surprise - Finland has an underbelly of pointless bureacracy and starting to forget what the 'welfare' in 'welfare country' means.
And before you give me any grief about accepting any benefits to begin with or making such claims... unless you've walked in my shoes and gone through all I have, you don't get to judge. No prejudice, please.
I must say when i first saw your reaction channel long time a go i tought you were kind of ignorant. Now when i wach your videos i think this man is smart. Just like this video, smart words. keep evolving stay smart and create good content ❤
Thank you
I have my moments of ignorance as I am only human but my aim is to limit my ignorance while avoiding arrogance.
@@GIOBOZZ we all do ☺️ and we all should
Every one of us benefits from Kela when we start our lives in Finland, wheter its by birth or by immigration. We are all both paying and receiving.
True, almost everyone gets housing benefits from Kela because rents are so high here. No shame in using Kela unless you're planning on making a lifestyle out of it. I guess many people here have some problem with people who come here without the intention of ever working or wanting to assimilate into society.
Every time somebody buys something in Finland, a part of the price paid goes as taxes to the common pot (taxes) that helps Finland keep up a high standard compared to other countries. The money goes round and round and keeps the system up. Some slept in school instead of learning elementary things, though education and meals were free in school for everybody for 9 years at least.
I think "we are all both paying and receiving" really embodies why the taxes are so high here. Somewhere like the US you pay less taxes, but you also receive less from your government. Here, you pay more and you receive more (healthcare, public transportation, education, etc), and it brings stability and it makes it easier to live a fulfilling life!
@@DNA350ppm i think lukio/amis (high school) are free aswell now that theyre mandatory.
@@hittite_gaming Yes, that's a phantastic progress for the younger generation in those ages, but all generations in Finland has already got some free education. There's also paved streets and winter maintanance in the more inhabited areas, old age pensions for all, libraries, recycling, help for giving birth and for families with kids, etc. It's difficult for Finns to make a list of all that is payed for with the taxes, and difficult for people from other countries to imagine that all that feels like "free", because it is "prepaid".
I had watched your main channel a lot earlier but never realized that you actually moved to Finland. Now binge-watching videos on this channel.
Man I just hate people who come up with the kind of crap you had to endure. Those are some miserable individuals, luckily a minority.
Love the content you are creating and how you are constantly getting better at it. Love it even more that someone actually moved to Finland out of all the countires, and even more impressive that you chose lapland. From the bottom of my heart, thank you for the content you provide, and thank you for now being a part of our nation. Keep it up!
Sponsored by Kela is actually a humorous badge one can sew on their student overall. Yes, some Finns twist it to be a bad thing that someone get's paid by Kela. By itself it is not that at all (maturnity leave, studying, getting sick). There is a slur used for people that are not trying to get a job even though they could but are happy to use Kela benefits. It is "kelarotta" or "kela rat". Those are very rare in my mind though. You're right - we have a lot to improve!
Kela rats are a problem and even if there aren't many of them, the idea that someone just takes without ever giving anything back makes a lot of people angry(myself included), too many kela rats will eventually cause the whole system to come down so that is why many hate em.
Getting money from Kela is ok if you need it and are trying to move forward* with your life but if you instead just leech of the system intentionally, you are a problem that needs to be solved(in most cases a change in attitude is needed).
*if you got a permanent injury that makes it impossible for you to work then that is a different thing entirely.
I dont think its that little people tho. Out of all finns? Yea its a small number but its still a lot of people.
Its not even that hard to do because all you have to do is just be actively looking for a job and in an interview just do so poorly no one will ever hire you.
@@Nuinwing Kind of agree, although the amount of money one gets from kela really isn't all that much. It's usually just barely enough to pay for basic living expenses and that's it, so even kela rats would probably want to get out of the situation to actually have money to spend on their hobbies instead of just barely surviving bill to bill each month. Also technically they do still give back in terms of taxes - for example työttömyysetuus gets taxed by 20~ % if I remember correctly.
@@SuomenPaska Kela's benefit is payed with 20% tax the one (from the unemployment fund for 200 days) has income tax that can be as low as 4% iirc which is the lowest income tax bracket (like only 8000€/year or something).
@@Nuinwing it is just safety net for the sheep, rats would be doing crime and other harm if they did not receive those benefits. So you are paying "suojelusraha" to kela rottas.
You should get a Kela card. It doesn't mean that you will get benefits, but if you plan on staying longer you will need it. Usually you use it to check in to your doctors appointment or laboratory, dentist and when you take out medication at the apothecary. And let's be honest, if you pay taxes in Finland, you have every right in the world to recieve the benefits that come with paying taxes.
Kela benefits is a very hot topic in Finland. There are those who hate anyone who gets kela benefits and those that literally mooch off of kela. There are those that need kela benefits because of illnesses or other life issues and those that go through life never needing to use kela. It will always be a hot debate, just like free healthcare is a hot debate in america, for example. Yes, it's very insulting when someone insinuates you use kela so that you'll never have to work without even knowing what that person is going through. It's best for anyone, whether finnish or immigrant, to just ignore anyone who starts ranting about kela mooches.
And with that I would like to welcome you to the dark side of Finland. Kela was made to help the "weak", those that can't for one reason or another fully care for themselves financially. Anyone who is ill in any form is weak. And weakness is still the greatest sin in Finland. Weakness is the antithesis of Sisu, the ability to overcome anything. And real finns have sisu. So if you're weak and lack sisu, are you even a real finn? I think this is the main reason for our high suicide rates. People are much more willing to kill themselves and their loved ones than be percieved as weak and unworthy and un-finnish. As a "weak" person myself (struggling with mental health issues) I chastise myself over this weakness every day. It's so ingrained in our culture that I feel sick with shame over being so weak (for not being able to defeat my depression), knowing that this very issue is making my depression worse! Finns value fortitude over anything, it is after all what helped us survive the winter war and continuation war. Anyone who lacks that fortitude is.....undeserving.
I hope my little rant doesn't put you off Finland. It's just my observation as a grumpy finn. :P
@@stupidtookmynick You are very brave to tell about it. Real Finnish honesty! Do be open to any support that comes your way. Finns are hiearchical in their thinking to a great degree, but it is not the best way of thinking when taking to its extreme. Together the weak are stronger, than the strong are as lone wolves. And the latter are not exactly lovable and interesting to be with. Like, kind of one-dimensional and predictable. I guess you are so young that you never had the chance to learn, in person, many real heroes from 1939-1944 in Finland. How warmhearted and kind, generous and rightminded, playful and sincere, they were, how well aware of that everyone has his limits, how everyone needs others, is dependent of others. Nothing like those penny-pinching, negative right-wing ultra-wanna-be soldiers that try to pose as prototypes of Finnish "sisu", not giving thanks for what others do for them. There are so many ways we support each other, we are all needed, and you have just given proof of that with your kind support and good advice, and a very accurate analysis of the way a part of Finland functions, and tries to dominate Finnish ideology. But you put up a courageous and wise resistance. That's Finland for you, too!
🙂
@@DNA350ppm to be honest, this is what I feel is the true strength of finns. "Kaveria ei jätetä" (no one gets left behind). When I'm on my feet and I'll be able to work, I will be proud to pay my taxes that go to help someone else who's in crisis and needs the support of their people to get back on their feet.
edit: Tbh "Tuntematon Sotilas" (The unknown Soldier) is a movie I recommend Gio to watch, even american military people think it's the best war movie ever made :D
@@stupidtookmynick I feel very sure that you will be back on your feet again and you will be a very helpful and useful "kanssa-ihminen" in opposition to "vasta-ihminen" like those who write nasty comments. The love and solidarity you can feel for others can help you to find the path forward, too. Listen only to the best and kindest voices! I wish you all the best!
@@stupidtookmynickFinns are weak. They are pussies. You can do anything with them.
Funny how people make the most incorrect assumptions, with no basis, and then think they're a fact.
Humans
That’s what we do
Assumption is the worst thing
Kela has given me so much money along the years, first when I was a student at the uni, after that housing benefit and unemployment benefit etc. I'm happy to pay my taxes, I know what they are used for and I think our social benefit system is important. Sponsored by Kela is not an insult to, I mean if you are going to study after high school, you will be sponsored by Kela. I personally think that everyone should take what they can from Kela because it belongs to you. That's why we pay taxes and I have no problem with it.
No, not kela. Tax payers paid that. People like me and I'm not even a finn, nor have I ever received any support from the system I happen to contribute. So at least go to work now and start giving it forward. I've seen so many finns simply sitting on their hands and refusing to go to work cause the money or the work is beneath them.
I've worked as a cleaner in the hotels and construction. I still work at the construction site but not as a cleaner anymore. Still physical work. It's hard but it's better that to be completely useless.
Also I've asked from kela and they seem to hate me cause they refused me any help when I was truly in need. They HATE certain people and I can only guess why! So that system is far from fair. It's total bs.
Based. I am hoping to get a job within next year so I can also start paying back the many years I've been on unemployment.
@@meeriann I may be wrong, but you probably don't get money from KELA, because you don't have citizenship. Kela has helped a lot of people, in need, so I am favor of it.
At first due to the thumbnail and the title I was like who tf is this dude living here and bragging about receiving a ton in benefits, but shortly after starting the video I realized where it was going, and loved every second of it, and also went to check a few more vids from you, top stuff and a well earned sub!
And also, fucking hell, moving to Sodankylä, massive hats off to you dude, I've been all over Lapland around 15 times on holidays, and can safely say I would never want to live there :D
Thanks a lot dude
Love it here in Lapland
I really understand that you're getting tired of peoples bad comments, but please try your best to remeber even the good ones :) No matter where you live or what you do, there will always be someone having opinions and not all of them will be great. So try focus on the positive things, and keep your good work with this channel and to learn and explore new things in Finland! I really hope that we can soon see a video of you trying out your ice skates :D
I for sure will do the ice skates
I just don’t know how long I’ll keep going
I feel like I’ve had enough
The bad out weights the good
Finland is a great country but I’ve never tried to say Finn’s are amazing I’ve individualize each Finn I’ve met because I don’t actually walk around Finland expecting to see nice Finn’s I genuinely expect bad Finn’s and it’s based off experiences
I was going to comment something like this also so I just continue here. That disrespectful behavior which you encountered as offensive, is encouraged by people who do these frauds, get caught and then media speaks of them. Let's look at Milan Jaff for example. Absolutely disgusting what he did and now it affects how some people view immigrants. I do understand how feel. People suck
So many get these offensive comments, especially on line. Not just in Finland, everywhere. There are always idiots, who judge other people. Best we can do, is try to ignore them. They are just not worth it. 😜
@@GIOBOZZ It's unfortunate u've had such experiences and that u have found the Finns disappointing 😩 There's surely bad apples in every nation and especially on the interwebs. But if u see more bad ones than good ones IRL, then I'd assume it's because u are living in the "wrong" city. The small Finnish cities might be more close-minded and more opposing to immigrants vs bigger cities where cultural variation and immigrants are more normal and thus more accepted. I think if u'd find even just 1 like-minded Finnish person/friend, they could then introduce u to other nice Finns and then u'd have this group of nice Finnish people to interact with 😇 It's wholly different experiencing a foreign city/environment alone than with buddies.
Dont care about haters, they are everywhere especially in Internetland, just ignore them!!!
It’s crazy!
I feel you man continue what you are doing and just ignore the negativity someone people criticize so that they bring that person down just continue man I love what you are doing we all love what you do
Word.
Keep doing what you do sir, it's good to have you here with us Finns! Some of us might be ignorant asswipes saying stupid stuff, but you can just ignore them. If possible, focus on the positive and enjoy Finland!
Hey dude happy to have you! Loosen the trigger and ignore!
For sure
I love your honesty. I can't understand people who make comments like that. But hey, when you think about it... Actually they only make themselves look like a fool. Like bullies in elementary school. Don't let them get to you. Lots of light 💫 enjoy the Finnish winter but at the same time - Don't let the darkness get to you.
Any plans on travelling around Finland? A road trip maybe! 😊👍
Okay did you intentionally just rhyme?
Look Like a fool like bullies in elementary school 🤯 that was 🔥 nice
I most definitely will and for sure I’ll travel around Finland
Kinda scared now
North Finland is wonderful I wonder what the other parts are like 😥
@@GIOBOZZ yeeeeah of course it was intentional. 😉 A larger sized glass of w**e makes anyone a poet I guess! 😃
Wish I could have some of that 🍷 right now
I like that you are proud of the fact that you take care of yourself and do not need handouts 👍
Having a benefits system is important. It's okay to need help. It's also okay to not need help. There's no telling when life takes a turn and those who never needed it suddenly needs a little help or vice versa.
And I hope you enjoy the ice skating! I love it.
There is always some troll that crawls out from under a moldy rock and decides to piss on other peoples happiness by being miserable and sour. They can fog off.
Keep them awesome videos coming 💟
exactly 😄
The KELA card is very important to have. With it, you can get prescription drugs cheaply if you have to go to a polyclinic/hospital. The price/night is approx. 38€ 🤔 The picture KELA card works as your identity card in Finland. KELA grants grants only through applications, which are sent either by computer or by post with the necessary attachments. And by the way... Germany is not as " cool " country as u said!!
Germany isn’t perfect
It’s far from it
But the support is clear
Meaning if they hate you
You’ll know
In Finland you can’t tell
There’s no good country
Once it is inhabited by humans 🥰
@@GIOBOZZ I'm from Finland too ... 🇫🇮
@@GIOBOZZ quite many around europe considers german people a bit weird. I've met both, weird and normal, annoying and nice. That is weird that you say that about finns, other european people, like swedes, say that we are a bit too rough and straight with what we say etc, quite the opposite from your experience! Is this online or rl experience? Online brings often the worst from us, idk.
Just found you on youtube, As a finn I respect you and what you say and do.
Words of wisdom, there! ❤ Sorry to hear that you get some of those idiotic comments... 😒
The fee was for processing the residence permit application by the Finnish Immigration Services and not just for submitting paperwork.
The amount of work needed by often several governmental agencies while processing the applications is not trivial.
There are proposals to make it more streamlined process and less resources demanding, there is room for improvement, but that will be in the future.
I get money from Kela, what i use living, and i don't have paid workplace, for now.
And i just can say that, that money that i get from Kela, is not that much, because many things in Finland, are expensive, because taxes are high, but those high taxes include many good things, at a same time.
Good speech, man! 👍
Your views are not totally aligned with the way that the Finnish social security system, especially national health insurance system, is intended. The Finnish system doesn't try to create division between who could afford to be without and couldn't the way you express it.
There are reasons why everyone gets some benefits no matter how wealthy they are.
Your views are somewhat tainted by American ideas and views, which aren't so justified or true in Finland. It is very understandable. I just hope you become aware of it and could try to see the more Finnish point of view and reasoning and how the fairly complex system works. It is unfortunately so very complicated that not many actually know it well.
In theory, almost everyone born in Finland can get money from Kela without doing anything. Child benefit is paid for all children. Even if the parents use that money. Finland's social security system is not so great that it is worth deliberately relying on it. Nobody wants to be dependent.
Yes, but the parents are usually working and paying taxes. So the money the child recieves is not for the child but to support the parents. (Child support, health care etc.)
Tik Tok is full of memes where immigrants says Kela pays everything. Thats why they are trolling you. Dont listen that! Happy that you are here on Finland! 😊
Had no idea
Why’d immigrants do that tho
Is it to troll the trolls or is it really something that they do
@@GIOBOZZ I Think just to troll and seek 15 min fame or something. And some finns dont understand that Kela is important to immigrants before they get to work.
Also TikTok comment sections are mostly just a cesspool of toxicity anyway so best not to take what some miserable people comment on there (or youtube) to heart. No person who is happy and doing well in their lives feels the need to place blame on immigrants or leave comments like that. These pathetic people are constantly looking for the next person to take their misery out on instead of looking inward and that is what they will stay doing. Quite sad honestly.
I think this is an interesting topic because it explains a bit of the practical process of moving to another country
Thank you for speaking about this issue publicly, there should really be much more public discourse about this issue of "labeling others on assumptions", no matter what motivated it.
Also, I do like to add to why public safety nets are not just a cost on society;
Among everything else, human rights concerns, providing equal opportunity for all etc., more of the social security benefits will come back to the nations money coffers than people usually realize. For the unemployment benefits, for example, there is a 20% tax that is reduced upfront, like some have mentioned here in the comments. But rarely if ever people mention that everything that is bought with the benefits, is also taxed with VAT (Value Added Tax). So the real tax that the tax office (in Finland) receives from the unemployment benefit, is around 20 - 44%, depending on the tax bracket of the products purchased.
Not only that, as even the poor do participate on keeping the nations economy moving - money needs to move for economy to grow, and the rate at which the money moves is called the velocity of money - in which social benefits does have a positive impact.
Also, it is good to ask; in which example the money is spent faster and produces more tax income for the nation - dividing 5 Billion to 200 000 people, who need it for everyday needs and generates tax revenue at 20 - 44% rate for it or giving 5 Billion to a single billionaire, who will most likely invest it in something that contains tax loops or stocks that you either don't need to pay taxes at all for or in a much smaller amount?
Yes, entrepreneurship is essential for economic growth and to be able to create upward economic mobility for people, but social benefits are also just as essential to provide equal opportunity for the people, if you want to build the nation in a sustainable way, by not building a class system in the country on purpose. With social benefits, even the poor will participate in the economy and it's growth and minimize the negative impacts of poverty, e.g. homelessness, mental illnesses, crime, stability of society as a whole etc. a Nation which is not built to serve the people of that community, does not have a future, as revolution always follows eventually.
There is no problem with using Kela for benefits... But the problem is that there are lots of people in ''undeclared work'' where they get paid under the table and state to kela that they are broke so they get benefits on top of that. People who purchase expensive things while being on kela support are clearly abusing the benefit system, they are getting money from somewhere else while not contributing anything back to the society and taking everything they can. Honest people who use Kela benefits cannot purchase expensive items.
i get around 900€ for vocational rehabilitation before taxes and 308€ a month for rent no tax and 83€ for some unknown reason. Helps alot and im already almost ready to graduate, im going to speed run the school under a 8months
You are absolutely right
Thank you
I really hate the assumption that people are living comfortably off benefits. A lot of people have shame because of it. There's 9 people in my family, including me, and all of us have some type of disability that makes it really difficult for us to find a job, keep our jobs, or study. I'm currently a student, about to graduate, but I'm going towards unemployment real fast because of what I believe to be undiagnosed autism and ADHD. One typical sign of autism I have is that I really crave routine and order but I'm home all day long. People complained a lot about quarantine... how do you think it is for people who are living off benefits? I'm home all day, doing my studies online, because I can't go to the campus, I can't concentrate and I'm overwhelmed whenever I go outside. The only place that feels quiet enough is my own home but not really going outside is dreading. Now that I'm graduating, I'll be even more bored because I have to wait months to get the help I need. I don't want to tell people that I'm unable to work, because they'll question it, they'll call me lazy, they'll complain that they have to work. I feel like a worthless person in this society. But it is also because of those benefits that I can even live and to have a chance to be able to work in the future. Also, living off benefits really only covers your basic needs like healthcare, housing, and food. If you want something nice for yourself, you have to really save that benefit money.
Edit: also, the only people I've seen abuse the system are drug addicts who took advantage of my partner's and many other people's good will. So, yeah, jerks.
Hi, I really like your content, as a Finn it's great to hear your thoughts and experiences in Finland!
I dont know if you are aware, but Finland needs more workforce to keep the country going right now because we have low birthrate (below 2). The situation will be even worse in the future when elder people retire. So we actually need more immigration. This is tricky because as you have experienced, there are Finns who are against immigration. I totally agree with you, we should appreciate immigrants more and make our country more appealing for people who want to help our country.
That I didn’t know but that even makes the situation worse
As Finn’s it’s important to educate the citizens about kela
It shouldn’t be used as mockery
I’ve never heard scholarships being used to mock others
The Mockery long term will affect the citizens
Scaring out immigrants who are helping your country will scare other immigrants with potential and then sadly Russia or Sweden might have to ….. it may sound harsh but a smart leader is what we all need
@@GIOBOZZ nah, first, sauli niinistö is a good president, I didnt like him first but he's been very impressive, especially now it can be seen with the russia-ukraine war situation. And the american president is very different from european ones. second, people are smart and independent enough. Those who need a leader stays in the army or joins a gang.:P
That is why we need more automation to jobs that doesn't need brain. Like many physical works, shops, warehouses, construction sites etc...
Like if one guy could supervise bunch of robots or something.
they need to learn finnish and not come with the mindset " nah language is not worth it" immigrants like this are corrupting our culture, why we would want that here? I find immigration fine as long as its done properly and Finland demand them to know finnish. Immigrants must adapt not that we finns are throwing our culture and language away!!!
Some Finns don't know anything what it takes to get a resident visa here. US citizens aren't refugees so they need to be able to proof they can support themselves without the benefits.
Some idiots here think everyone can just move here from anywhere and "leech" benefits. News flash, they can't.
But you are actually welcome here GIO, and please don't let those ignorant trolls provoke you. Cheers 😘
Thanks 😊
Couldn’t agree with you more. Pay no attention to these mean online trolls. i would say that this latest wave of immigrant dissing trolls activated around the 2015 immigration wave from Syria, Afghanistan and East Africa. Some narrow-minded people just can’t stand the sight of a foreign person in Finland with an expensive phone or nice clothes.
I enjoy your videos, so please keep up the good work!
It sucks
@@GIOBOZZ The issue is, some people genuinely get crap ton of value for free and often not even for a good reason. There are immigrants BRAGGING about getting expensive things for free from KELA. It's not many people that do that, but those few are enough to spread the word to many people. And then there's some Finns bragging about not working at all but still getting paid for everything. One example of this I herd from my mother, a certain immigrant family decided to move to another location, but they decided they can't bother to move their old stuff... so they left everything in that old apartment. And for some mysterious reason KELA decided to pay them so they can buy all the new things they left into the old apartment, simply because they couldn't bother to move their old stuff... or maybe they simply didn't like the old stuff anymore and just wanted new instead.
Now on the opposite side, people usually can't bother to ask or figure out if somebody spent their own money or did they get something paid by KELA. My grandfather experienced this too, due to his condition he cannot walk normally anymore so he bought himself a rollator or something similar with his own money. And to surprise of nobody, people who knew him instantly blamed him for leeching off of the system by getting KELA to pay for it.
That’s toxic honestly
I don’t think it’s an environment to raise a family at all
@@spugelo359 if this really happened, it's a very rare case. Maybe once in a while in a small town, if they get a first immigrant family etc, but in cities these things don't happen.
@@itkenverta Well this aint a small town. My mother works in a kindergarten so she meets a lot of immigrant families. And the amount of bragging and shitty attitude is far more common than you'd want to believe. As for Finns being drinking waste of tax payer money, nothing new.
Just believe in yourself and what you do, your work will eventually make you 'famous enough' to give you the appreciation you deserve. This country is small, when word actually starts going around about what you do for Finland it will snowball forward. Finland needs immigrants like you: if you like the winter (or don't hate it too much) you have sisu. Good luck!
I suggest you think and try to observe how the public sector and private sectors are divided in Finland and other Nordic countries differently from the U.S economic system. It's not very different, but different enough that if you don't realize the differences you are likely to arrive to false assumptions and attitudes.
You'll also might notice that Kela is just a major administrative organization for many nation wide activities, which have are the legal responsibilities of the State. It is handling insurance type programs like the national health insurance, national pension fund , which is even the reason for the name of the organization: Kansaneläkelaitos (Kela).
Some of the activities or programs are part of the last resort social safety net of the country, which is what you and many others seem to think to be it's only role.
Immigrants are a hugely diverse group with different economic and other situations. In some largr municipalities in southern Finland there are large numbers of foreign languages immigrant families.
Many of them are originally refugees or from otherwise difficult backgrounds. They need statistically more public social services that the rest of the population, which is definitely understandable.
That situation seems to cloud some people thinking and they might have their delusional assumptions of all immigrants.
Also there of course are some misuse of benefits cases, as all systems tend to have some of that too. There is also some mistrust to the system, which isn't perfect.
In some situations getting help seems unreasonably difficult especially for people who already have difficulties.
In some other situations some benefits seem to encourage some people to think that it is not rewarding enough to try to get up on their own feet, since they don't think that they couldn't achieve much more by their own effort. It is always a difficult balance to what degree and what kind of support is beneficial and when it becomes counter productive diminishing motivation, even becoming some form of disabling lifestyle. Giving a bad name or label to such social support doesn't help anything, it just makes people even more depressed an can kill their self-esteem so that they really don't trust themselves to become capable to support themselves.
Brother paid no attention to hate u are doing a great job... kudos
Kela usually gives like 750-1k per month max, thats a really low amount of money
They give me 1000 a week 😵
@@Oracle3_OnlyFacts did you watch the video?
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@@GIOBOZZ that's a nice way of saying you're leeching.
They are trolls...
You are so smart. Only thing that made me wonder is that you don't want to use finnish social security services although you pay taxes to Finland. There should be no shame in using social security. Even the richest in Finland get support from the state and that is a reason why welfare state is so accepted. There is always reason to pay taxes because everybody gets back some good things from the society. So to support welfare state, it is important to understand that it is for everybody and also for you, it is not only for the poor or misfortuned. I thank you for this great video and hope that many people takes lessons from it. It is good to talk about things like this.
Americans dont wanna ever be part of social security. Never. They proud of their self-sufficient. So should we be, but people arent willing to pay for services etc. so all is taxed. And Finns are customed to getting help from kela. Its spinal. Have a Snowy Day❄️
If you get from your doctor prescription for medicine ( ex anribiotics), the pharmacy asks for your personal KELA card. If you do not have one, you pay a lot moore for the medicine.
this is a great video gio, u explained it well! im a finn and i hope some finnish people would be nicer :) appreciate u
radio news told Sodankylä was coldest place in Finland today at -26. how did it feel
The more traditional reason for talking about Finland as an island, is the simple fact that the Finnish economy is dependent on export and import of products, which are best delivered or economical to deliver only using shipping via open sea connections.
The climate makes keeping sea lines open in difficult ice conditions a reoccurring challenge.
The dependency to shipping has made Finland a island like economy. It doesn't mean isolation or not having land connections also in this traditional meaning.
I must say I really enjoyed this video and your wise words. It is sadly true there's those low educated who've adopted the right wing's racism and spread their stupidness around the net. It was sooooo refreshing listen to you. Please believe me most of your followers are just normal people and we truly appriciate you came to our country and live in the north. Oh, skates... looking forward to next video...
Thanks a lot
I can’t wait honestly
Ignore those stupid comments. It Is nice to have you here!
i'm Finn. I have to say, you can get daily allowance, or social support even you are an entrepreneur when you have no enough of income for some reason. To apply some sort of KELA-support is not shame, it's just part of life here. We Finnish people are paying soooo much taxes that it sounds very weird if you do not apply for financial support in some point as a entrepreneur. Basically, you get something back.
Admirable integrity💪
In my eyes wealthy People have helly Hansen clothes and have a status. I heard it started as a life jacket brand for the waters. Keep up the good work. Ps. used to have a shirt used from my neughbor
As a finnish person i respect you. Best regands: Silent-Fart From Rovaniemi :)
It is not very good or correct way to think about all national health insurance contributions as taxes even though it is the tax office than is collecting them. Bundling everything as a tax makes one forget what they actually are.
Health insurance contribution
Employers must pay health insurance contributions for 16 to 67 year old employees who are covered by the Finnish social insurance system in accordance with the Health Insurance Act.
The employer’s health insurance contribution must be paid even if no tax can be withheld. This may be the case, for example, when wages are paid as fringe benefits rather than money, or when the employee’s tax card indicates that no tax is to be withheld. No health insurance contributions are paid on trade income.
In addition, the employee has to pay the insured party’s health insurance contribution. It is included in the withholding rate, so you do not need to withhold it from the employee’s wages separately.
You're so well spoken. You will need a kela card eventually though if you plan on staying longer. It's used a lot in hospitals, dentist, etc. Having the card doesn't mean you automatically get "welfare" etc. You will get reduced bills from doctors and pharmacies, but think of it this way... You are already funding it with the taxes you pay. Instead of having complex health insurance system, we cover it via taxes.
I'm glad you're enjoying your stay here and spreading a positive message. May the d-vitamin see you through our winter safely :D
Thank you.
Those commenters are hapless losers who have lost their own lives. Don't worry about them, move on!
Gotta focus on the positive
the kel card is very important. if you get sick and need prescription drugs, you need a kela card to buy them, a prescription alone is probably not enough. and if you have to be hospitalized, the kela card is your life insurance, it makes it easier in many ways to get help when your life may depend on it.
I see your point and I respect that. But you should absolutely get a KELA-card, when you're able to. It helps you with hospital bills and medicine and such. Just in case you get hurt or shit hits the fan some other way.
I’ve been advised by many to get it.
You had comments based on your personal experiences about the attractiveness or "isolation" of Finland.
I thought that some statistics could be a useful backdrop to your views and experiences. Not a direct comment to them, but something to give more concrete background at more national scale.
This new information is from the Finnish national statics agency about the population and immigration/emigration :
Between January and October, 38,072 children were born, i.e. 3,864 children less than in the same period in 2021. The number of deaths was 51,482, which is 4,439 more than a year earlier.
According to preliminary statistics for October, 36,234 people moved to Finland from abroad in January-October, and 11,362 people moved out of Finland. There were 5,182 more immigrations and 29 more emigrations than in January-October of the previous year. There were 6,460 Finnish citizens among the immigrants and 7,512 among the emigrants.
Between January and October, there were 251,497 moves between municipalities. Compared to the same period of the previous year, moves between municipalities decreased by 7,344 moves according to the 2022 municipal division.
Great response, very mature compared to the person who posted on your video. You don't have to justify if you are using Kela or not, or even working. None of their business and it really just shows how ignorant some Finn's are towards foreigners.
i hope you didnt delete my comment. i'm 100% on your side and i'm really happy and interested what you do. i don't care one bit where your money is from. i just like following people from abroad that come to finland and i'm 100% in support of what ever they do.
i'm just interested but suddenly my thing got 'not exist anymore' or whatever.
i'm M
ONLY trying to help you. what i say is what i do ALWAYS
if you DID delete my comment i would say you need to calm down a bit. i have 0,000000% and i'm REALLY happy you're here. i'm just interested and want to help. want to tell you what I do.
dude i have NOTHING against you. i LOVE your channel.
that's why i comment cause i wanna help.
i'm myself living on kela money. i don't care where your moneys from.
Hmm, the KELA unemployment + rent support benefits do support a meager living for a single individual in a small flat, but I would not call it comfortable :P everybody gets money for food, basic living expenses and apartment, but if you really wanna get ahead in life you gotta get a job. Stuff is really expensive here in Finland, and the amount of KELA income you can get is kind of calculated in such a manner that it incentivises most people to get a job.
Love your content! Keep on doing good work 👍
Thanks for watching
I think people just assume you live off of benefits because thats what a lot of imigrants (mainly those who seek shelter from war) do live off of kela and have little to no intention of working.
Not saying all imigrants do this, i think most do want to work and most do work its just that small percentage that gets talked a lot about and kinda ruin the reputation for all.
And im not saying that a person who moves into a totally different culture, doesent know any finnish or even english should be expected to just work immediately. A few years living off of benefits is totally fine if you use that time to study and become a part of society and the culture.
Wise words.
This is not something I usually talk about but I have needed Kela's support quite a lot when I was a student. Initially I received study grant just like many other students tend to do but my studies were delayed, and I changed schools a few times. For example, there was time when I was studying at University of Eastern Finland. Anyway, eventually I graduated from Metropolia University of Applied Sciences but long before that Kela had stopped granting me the study grant, and I had to apply for general housing allowance instead and perhaps some other forms of support too.
Did I want to spend so much time of my life on studying that Kela stopped giving me money? No. Did I enjoy receiving "benefits" from Kela? I'd rather say I appreciated the assistance they provided. It definitely made my life easier. My parents also assisted me when support from Kela wasn't enough but I wish I hadn't been such a burden to them at times but I appreciated their help too. The studying was financially easier while the study grant lasted but when it ended, and I had to look for other form of support from Kela, nothing became certain anymore. Every month I was quite tight on money, and each time I applied for general housing allowance it lasted only for a certain amount of time until you had to reapply for it, and I think I applied for something else too a couple of times but it had even stricter process and I had to apply separately each time I needed it. My life felt like I was walking on a thin rope. I had enough worrying how my money would last to the next month.
Near the end of my studies I was lucky enough to find a job while I was doing my thesis, and I felt really relieved that I did not have to bother Kela anymore. Honestly speaking it was a relief. What makes Kela so significant, in my opinion, is how Kela can help those in need before they are ready to start paying their taxes. This in addition to other benefits such as Kela's role in medical care makes Kela a blessing. Using Kela's services is a privilege that should not be misused but that does not mean one should not use it at all. In a modern society it is nearly impossible to live without money, and not everyone is in a position where they could simply refuse Kela's support when they need it.
I'll admit I was reliant on Kela for a long time, and had I finished my studies on time I wouldn't have had such a hard time but life is not always that easy. I'm glad I'm able to pay my taxes now but if I'm asked to show my Kela card then I won't hesitate to do so. I think it is a fine goal to not have to rely on Kela but at the same time I can relate to those who need Kela's support.
While the systems in every European country differ as to their organisation I can say for Germany and other countries will have these distinctions also: There are 3 systems 1 you pay taxes 2 you pay contributions to health funds and pension funds and 3 there are public charities which will help you out if you are really wretched and poor.
When you work you pay taxes and contributions and in return you are entitled to "free" health care and if you work very long until your retirement you will get some pension as well. Many people and evil politicians conflate 1 and 2 with public charities which hand out benefits really for free but typically immigrants are not entitled to them and the complicated immigration burocracy makes sure that every immigrant will come with enough money or will work and pay taxes and contributions. Asylum seekers and war fugitives must be accepted and be provided with benefits but even they must eventually find work or leave the country. But there will always be people who keep themselves ignorant of these distinctions or willfully conflate these things to further their political agendas. It is so not just in Finland but in other countries and here in Germany as well.
Some idiots don't understand that you have to be a citizen or with a refugee etc status to get benefits for nothing. Also I think most finns sees kela's benefits as a "tax refund", as it is for most people, but yeah rich people shouldnt and they cannot abuse the system, when your salary is big enough you don't qualify for the benefits. Healthcare is of course a different thing, that's for everyone.
Somebody might have already explained it, but here is some knowledge about KELA.... Thing is, they first and foremost make sure that you have no other means to survive, so to be dependant on KELA, means you have simply no other means to pay for the rent, food and basic healthcare. There is a governmental statue law in place for social security for every Finnish person. That law makes sure, that you do not have to live outside of the society, even you have no income or a job. The money you get from kela, is personal, calculated for every individual, and wont in most cases cover rent for example, if the rent is too high to be considered fair housing cost by area. basically, a normal guy get three separate payments if Fully on benefits, first is unemploement benefit, housing benefit, and basic social support benefit. To qualify for unemployement benefits, you need to have had a job for X amount of time. Housing benefit only covers rent partially, never fully and even that has a limit, If your condo is 1500€per month, they pay you nothing, and say, get a cheaper place. basic support is for those whose living costs are more than they can afford, due to variety of reasons, some get only this support, and housing support is debated monthly. Kela also keeps better track of you than NSA, they keep perfect record of your finances, home, living situations, almost everything... Shit to n of rules to follow, and one more thing, you sell all of your freedom by goin on KELA supports. Its a mess, I know...
You should get KELA card if you pay taxes. It's not designed for "poor" people, it's for everybody. If you pay taxes, you get health care and other services, rich or poor. It pays maternity/paternity leaves and so on. When I moved here it was attached to my work contract. It's really not automatic to get. I never got unemployment, just maternity leave and health care services. you should get it.
In a past decade I was an internet chat room mod. I'm still involved in chat rooms somewhat. I've banned probably in the 10s of thousands of users, and they are of course the minority of total chatters over some 20 years now.
Not every comment is worth allocating time and thought to in your mind.
What you learn is there are the loud obnoxious tiny minority who by their sheer volume seem important, loud and front of stage. But look to the bigger picture. Don't focus on them. These are just the few idiots who come into a room and make a loud noise for attention. There are many millions of people on the internet. You will encounter this type of person in all areas of the internet, and from all countries about all topics. Offline also, but because of the size and ease of interaction on the internet you encounter more people here. There will always be another stupid person.
BUT they are not the point. They are a tiny percentage. They aren't even your target audience. The vast majority of your views and commenters are not like these twits. Remember most of the viewers NEVER comment. You have videos with 4 to 7 thousand views on this channel. Do they have 4-7k different commentors on them? No of course not. Think of the percentage... what percent of comments on any video are from the blabbering trolls relative to the view count. Very very small. Actually statisticly insignificant.
My point is that you are too focused on the individual dumb comments rather than the rest of the community you have here. You have 8k subs here; 19k on the main channel. Those are the ones that matter. The trolls won't be subbed so they don't even count as a percentage of those many who think this content does matter. That it is worth their attention and subscription.
You could be on here just reciting the alphabet and you'd still get a moron making dumb comments. And if not on your channel they'll go troll another and make the same kind of stupid comments. They are their own problem. Not your problem. They don't matter.
I'm not a moderator now but somedays I still get ticked off at certain people and feel like booting their butt out but I remind myself they aren't important. In 5 minutes time nobody will even remember their name. The viewers will just skip their comments like any other troll not giving them a single thought.
Not every comment is worth allocating time and thought to in your mind.
Good for you many do make these stupid assumptions I married a Finn in london 30 years ago in London and bought an apartment in Turku 20 years back
Just applied for residency 4years back because of Brexit as we had to decide UK or Finland some that don’t know me assume but quickly change attitude ones we talk sadly I struggle with the language 😢
Love 👋👍👍💕🇫🇮
good video
The social benefits are not raising up in hand to hand within inflation unfortunately but yet finland does generally better than UK where people with full time job have to look for free food, charities etc.
And Btw. Don't worry about those kind of comments like "taking money from government". It is just way of life here. No matter if you are native or foreigner, rich or poor, worker or unemployed, everybody gets something from government. If not yet you will someday. If you not going to take it, I respect your principals but your are an idiot. That "free money" is there to get you out of bad situation or give your business little more boost to grow or allow you to do something that benefits others. There are people who abuse the system. Only advice for that -- Don't be one. Those who makes comments like freerider ect. are usually ones who are one.
One down of your followers and bye: you mormon gyus are great to have excuses with money you have. Everybody are just astonishing with a fluent dude like you come to Finland out of nowhere and actually doing nothing. Love you still; take care Sir.
You should (and kinda have to) get a Kela card. It entitles you to a lot in terms of the social and health benefits your taxes pay for and gives you an extra item of ID.
As for getting money from Kela, my wife an I were on benefits for six months when we came here. She was a returning emigrant and I’m the one she dragged with her! 😂.
Anyway, why aren’t I ashamed of it? Because Kela enabled us to train, integrate and we’re now both working and paying so much back in tax that we’ve probably paid the state back 100 times by now.
Of course, because I don’t ‘look’ like an immigrant, no one give me crap about scrounging off the state despite the fact I did take state benefits *before* I paid taxes here, unlike yourself.
Since that time I’ve met lawyers, teachers, engineers etc etc who at one stage in their lives depended on Kela. People can be so cruel about this stuff but they don’t know the circumstances of the person next to them on the bus never mind your situation.
Thanks for sharing your story
That was wonderful honestly
Kela is the institute that handles Finnish social security in its various ways. There is still some shame associated with it for many people, but frankly it is super important for Finnish society to be like it is. Kela card is also used to get things from pharmacies as it is so deeply integrated to Finnish healthcare system. I would encourage all people, citizens or not to see what their rights are in here and to use those rights, while at the same time also doing the other parts you are doing (like the taxes etc). Our social contract is important for making the country what it is.
"rich" 😅 as Finn have to say ..well, a little more than +500e has been calculated that everyone has to stay for a month to live on bills. about €1,000 comes from government subsidies, but after taxes and rent, electricity, bills for food, etc., not many hundreds will be left for many
i just listened to your vid 2w ago where you had the same thing
2:30 looks like that person telling you that might be slightly envious 😏😏
8:55 I will half agree with that. In France we have people tired of immigrants who "profit" of our system and sometimes they are called racists. However the words of these people don't make the immigrants repulsed by our countries they still come no matter what.
True
I mean France got so many immigrants 😂
Beign an enterpreneur also kinda excludes you from many benefits. For example, to enjoy unemployment benefits, you have to officially end your business and deregister it.
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Finland is no paradise, but still would say a privilege to live here. Tax level is high, especially if you earn good money, on the other hand, so much is covered by the state that I still think its ok.
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There is no way you could afford that jacket if you are trying to live with Kela money. The amount that remains in hand after all necessary bills are paid for is around 400€ a month.
Suomalaisille: Mä muutin suomalaisena takaisin Suomeen ja mullekaan ei olisi maksettu muuta kuin toimeentulotukea eikä mulla ollut Kelaa kahteen ensimmäiseen vuoteen, kun olin takaisin.
Eli kenen tahansa, joka muuttaa Suomeen, suomalaisen tai ulkomaalaisen, on ensin ansaittava takaisin 'oleskeluoikeus' ja sitä myöten oikeus etuuksiin. Mun piti ansaita takaisin Kela-oikeudet.
Totta, että turvapaikanhakijoilla on erilaisia oikeuksia, mutta ne ovat joka tapauksessa rajoitettuja. Kukakin voi olla eri mieltä ko. oikeuksien hyvyydestä, mutta mä voin vakuuttaa teille, että @Gio Bozzilla ei näitä etuja ole. Hän on saanut oleskeluluvan, koska hän on pystynyt osoittamaan, että hän pystyy elättämään itsensä. Normaaleille maahanmuuttajille, kuten @Gio Bozz on tiukat tulorajat, jotka ylittävät kaikki oikeudet saada etuuksia. Ja silti ne maksaa veroja meille.
Please wear a helmet when you go skating!
Will do
Yeah, Kela is kinda meme but it's not considered as something only few people are dependant on. Every student gets Kela benefits for studies even if they are from rich families (unless their family gives them actively money). Also if you work in low-income jobs you might get help to cover your rent too. Those kinds of comments are rude tho! but it's more like.. a meme yeah i think because we make fun of ourselves too being kelarotta (kela-rat) if you end up unemployed or something :D
I paid $500 to submit my permanent residency application as well.
I live in Finland,im getting 1750euro/month.and i dont have a jobb.😊kela paying.
If you rent a flat,you can get benefits from Kela.or if you have children you get money from Kela.every month,16 years/children.
Hi there. Don't take those stupid comments seriously. Some are stupid and ignorant and rasisti. I like your video's. Not every Finn are like that. I'm Finn and i like that you moved here. Take care dude 😎
I think the thumbnail of this video is about the worst thing you could do.
Even tho the tax information is accessed by anyone the talking about how much one earns is quite an tabu. Especially in work place its the one subject that none one talks about.
So combining that with the fact that average pay from work is around 2000€/month and that goes lower the further away from Helsinki you go and yeah, its easy to see how that can be seen as bragging and quite triggering subject to talk about.
I might be preaching to the choir here comparing to some of the top comments, but in my opinion you shouldnt be too bothered about some trollish negative comments.
Im sure there are people who really think these things they say in the internet because theyre just ignorant / live in a bubble, but that in no way represent the real irl Finnish experience imho.
Hello from Helsinki. I am ashamed for those people who say things like that to anyone. I bet most of them are unemployed struggling with money...plus it's easy to use these slurs for people behind the keyboard anonymously....most likely drunks etc. I know there are some idiots that target people who are not born in Finland but I like to think that most finnish people do not think like that at all!!
The social security has changed a lot during the past 5 years...and not for better. Kela's support comes from the state , whereas before it was mainly from the municipality.
Let me tell you my story short with Kela...I am 52 years old woman from Helsinki and it was year 1999...I had just graduated as a social educator, got married and we were trying to have a baby. I was supposed to start working the next year. But then one day we got into a serious car accident and my husband got a serious brain injury etc. I got injured really bad...my neck was broken, my shoulder totally etc. etc. The insurance company paid nothing...even the doctors said in the beginning that i will never be able to work. I didn't fully believe it at that time but the reality has been ...for the past 23 years that I am bedbound totally alone in a small apartment just laying on my sofa . i suffer from serious hypersomnia, chronic pain, nerve damage, cfs/me, some kind of brain injury etc.
When you are not able to work at all and you don't have a pension money from working...well...you are dependent on Kela. 5 years ago social security paid for my electricity, doctors and every 3 months medicine worth 900 euros! I got by somehow...after the social security started to come from Kela...well I am truly in a bad place which is a long story. I hardly have money for food nor medical bills etc.I get disability money and some for the rent. But because i didn't have any income 23 years ago...the money to live by all these years is so so little and council doesn't care. But if we didn't have this kela...I just don't know how I could survive at all ? in America i might be living on a street I guess ...so I always try to remember that.🙏
I have to do so much paper work every 3 months just to get my medicine...it wasn't like that before 2017.
well..long story short...even I do get comments like that 'you're so lucky that you don't have to work and all you do is sleep and get the money from KELA' !!!
During these over 23 years I have noticed the pattern...people who say things like that...they have problems...and money is part of it. often they drink or use drugs and the money is gone. If you are not disabled well then you have to take the work you are offered to. Of course everyone without any income can benefit from kela for a while but it is very minimum.
Just want to say that ignore people who say stupid comments...I like to think that Finnish people are not rasists but I guess you find them wherever you are.
Money tends to make some people nasty plus this pandemia is making the situation even worse for some people.
And if you ever need help from Kela...just don't hesitate to go for it. It is for everyone who really needs help some time in their lives ❗
I used to live in London when i was a teenager for 3 years so I know what it is to live in a strange country 😀. I am sorry this text got so confusing...because my cognitive fatigue is so strong that writing is hard. Take care and i wish you enjoy Finland ❄☃. I subscribed 👍♥
I see it same way as so much hatred in social media. It doesn't just happen in Finland it happens all over the world. There is so much crap in social media. Best way is not to take it seriously at all.