World of Warships - This Carrier is a citadel machine, forget about healing anymore

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  • čas přidán 11. 08. 2020
  • Brand new German tier 10 CV is finally out so I can show you what this thing does.
    Some carriers have AP bombs and that's nasty but this thing has AP bombs AND AP rockets + torps.
    What kinda dmg does AP do? Citadel dmg. Can you heal citadel dmg? Mostly NO. Torps also count as cita dmg so this CV mostly does dmg you CAN NOT HEAL.
    There is "counter play" which is angling but that is not exactly gonna be easy and possible every time.
    Oh...it also can't get citadeled by itself so there's that.
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Komentáře • 456

  • @MrYodolf
    @MrYodolf Před 4 lety +127

    "If I can't kill the carrier - at least i can go for the russian ships." - I love you, mate! The most speccuhl Streamer :)

    • @Parpyduck
      @Parpyduck Před 3 lety +1

      It was this statement that immediately earned my subscription.

  • @iberiksoderblom
    @iberiksoderblom Před 4 lety +183

    When WG realises, that CV's harm Russian ships, things will happen...

    • @liamfreeman1812
      @liamfreeman1812 Před 4 lety +7

      Ib Erik Söderblom CVs are more important to them than Russian ships

    • @TheMachoManlyMan
      @TheMachoManlyMan Před 4 lety +17

      "Da, comrade! Is why we're buffing the AA of all Russian ships!"

    • @Mii_Oh_Nine
      @Mii_Oh_Nine Před 4 lety +2

      German ones at that

    • @Rhyside
      @Rhyside Před 3 lety +8

      Wait for Russian CV and it will be really masacre.

    • @guvyygvuhh298
      @guvyygvuhh298 Před 3 lety +4

      Yes! Buff every ruski ship with 200mm deck armor! And 500mm of citadel armor! And 110% torp protection

  • @domidomi917
    @domidomi917 Před 4 lety +85

    CVs are balanced because you couldn't carry the team single- handedly. WG logic

    • @Sky_Guy
      @Sky_Guy Před 3 lety +1

      I get that CVs feel like cancer, but I don't understand people that want the RTS carriers to return. Those things could _literally one-shot Montanas,_ how is that somehow more fun than having functional AA? Their alpha was absolutely fucking bonkers!

    • @neogoterra
      @neogoterra Před 3 lety +2

      @@Sky_Guy According to some they would remove CVs entirely despite them being the most influential naval warship from 1930 onward.

    • @bernhardlangers778
      @bernhardlangers778 Před 3 lety +1

      @@Sky_Guy yes, a well played rts cv was a force to be reckoned with, but the skill required was also extreme.

    • @Kharnellius
      @Kharnellius Před 3 lety +1

      Well to be fair, CVs basically DID single handedly carry the fleet. Once carriers became a reality, the era of battleships ended.

  • @user-jm8sy5ox2j
    @user-jm8sy5ox2j Před 4 lety +41

    Wargaming: how can we make carriers even worse than they already are
    Result: German carriers

    • @nehcrum
      @nehcrum Před 4 lety +9

      And you haven't seen the russian carriers yet...

    • @xierus
      @xierus Před 4 lety

      You mean balansed?

    • @Derin7890
      @Derin7890 Před 3 lety

      @@nehcrum well... you are in luck because they just got announced

    • @nehcrum
      @nehcrum Před 3 lety

      @@Derin7890 Well, dun dun Dun?

    • @nehcrum
      @nehcrum Před 3 lety

      @@Derin7890 I would like to claim that I'm psychic, but the simple truth is that I'm a cynic.

  • @feanorn8409
    @feanorn8409 Před 4 lety +98

    I miss the pre 2019 state of this game... Yes, some things where already broken, but it was nowheere near this stupid shitfest it is now.

    • @beshtaa
      @beshtaa Před 4 lety +5

      wait for submarines then say again

    • @feanorn8409
      @feanorn8409 Před 4 lety +3

      @@beshtaa I will ;)

    • @xmlthegreat
      @xmlthegreat Před 4 lety

      @@beshtaa RIPPU

    • @sabrevanson4412
      @sabrevanson4412 Před 4 lety +11

      prior to 2019 build, CVs were dangerous, but, you could STOP them with right AA build ship. Now....if a CV wants you dead....youre dead. its that simple, you can be AA spec ALL the things, and CV says, "I want you dead today" you die.

    • @feanorn8409
      @feanorn8409 Před 4 lety +5

      @@sabrevanson4412 Add all the broken soviet Ships since Stalingrad to this and garbage like Odin on the other side.
      Damn this game went down the drain because of bias and stupid decisions. It as so good once :/

  • @jefftuckercfii
    @jefftuckercfii Před 4 lety +11

    2:40 Chat says that the carriers being essentially immune to each other's attacks solves the old problem of the CVs going after each other at the beginning of the game. How is this a problem? This is what carriers historically did! If you can overwhelm and kill off the enemy CVs you have control of the air and can attack with impunity, except for AA. Any other ships were targets of opportunity once the CVs were dealt with.

    • @Linkeh24
      @Linkeh24 Před 4 lety +1

      If you really wanted to split hairs, CVs shouldn't even exist in a surface combat game, because a force actually bringing a carrier to a surface combat engagement would be practically suicidal and was practically unheard of, for a number of reasons, here are two big ones: One, because a single fire almost always eliminated the entirety of the CV's strike capacity. Two, because the process of actually launching and coordinating a carrier-based air strike took nearly 45 minutes. Whereas battleships really could put out a salvo about every 30 seconds, the Wargaming carrier's ability to launch, recover, rearm, and repair is pure magic.
      So if you wanted to have CVs feel like they really should in a combat situation like this, they should only get 1 strike the entire match, and due to their extreme fragility, only a few hits should be enough to put them out of service.

    • @jefftuckercfii
      @jefftuckercfii Před 4 lety +1

      @@Linkeh24 - Agreed, but we both know that's not going to happen. WG wants them, they're here whether we like them or not (I don't like 'em and don't play 'em) . Historically, there were carrier vs. carrier actions with the TFs being hundreds of miles apart, or there were surface actions. The only exception I'm aware of was at Leyte Gulf during the Battle off Samar when the Japanese surface group came back after Halsey was lured away by the decoy force of deplaned Japanese CVs. If they hadn't inexplicably turned around, they would have wiped out most of the three small task units that were left to defend and support the beachhead, including numerous small slow CVEs. If Halsey's 3rd Fleet had stayed home, the fleet carriers would have made fairly short work of the Japanese surface force with no air cover, because scouts would have spotted them much sooner.

    • @oj_furrylover8484
      @oj_furrylover8484 Před 3 lety

      @@jefftuckercfii if speaking in history sense ship stick closer together right?

    • @ac4694
      @ac4694 Před 2 lety

      GW did this to make cvs "more popular" lowing to ground any skill requirements. Back it was way harder to operate the carrier. You could lose all the planes and do nothing. Now you can suicide spam planes because they got born on the board and repaired mid air.

  • @henriqueduarte9774
    @henriqueduarte9774 Před 4 lety +42

    Can't believe that before the cv rework Montana used to be a AA city that could handle 1 or 2 squadrons, now it only kills 1 or 2 planes of one squadron, I just can't believe it.

    • @assassinzakral7023
      @assassinzakral7023 Před 4 lety +3

      It's a fucking insult

    • @irotschopf7135
      @irotschopf7135 Před 4 lety +2

      I went for the full AA Montana as my 3rd Tier X... Yeah I re-spec'd into something a little more... useful.

    • @sawyerawr5783
      @sawyerawr5783 Před 4 lety +4

      frankly its an Insult to the whole USN: American warships are a forest of AA guns and yet they can't so much as dent the airpower being thrown at them.

    • @guvyygvuhh298
      @guvyygvuhh298 Před 3 lety +1

      Balans comrade, we make capitalist pigs and fascists weak so russian bias is the only viable choice!
      And CVs, bcz we love our special class, CVs, made so mentally disabled ppl can carry games without any risk

    • @neonlight1214
      @neonlight1214 Před 3 lety +2

      And the European DDs who have only 10% AA mounts of a Montana perform better.. Don't let me mention the sci-fi fantasy fairy tales soviet ships

  • @Linkeh24
    @Linkeh24 Před 4 lety +13

    See, even all this wouldn't be so bad if AA was actually functional. The fact is that carriers leave practically no counterplay and no risk to self, so it makes sense that they should be countered by people willing to sacrifice some of their ship's own power to be practically immune to CV drops, kind of like how it was pre-update.
    But as it is, carriers get to strike basically who they want, where they want, when they want, unless the entire team decides to give up their entire map presence and roll up into a lemming ball.

    • @sawyerawr5783
      @sawyerawr5783 Před 4 lety +1

      even then it doesn't matter. unless you get good RNG and blap them with a flak burst the first strike always goes through.

    • @rekslegiune6004
      @rekslegiune6004 Před 4 lety

      Lets add 200AA power on all ships or lets make people play as a team, you know this is a team game? Ofc as a CV you can hit any 1 on map but you will lose planes, if they have some AA support around. That is why in war you need to have different weapons, to counter any situations.

    • @sawyerawr5783
      @sawyerawr5783 Před 3 lety +3

      @@rekslegiune6004 losing planes doesn't matter when they just regen. that's the problem. I can hammer his squadrons all day, but he'll keep getting planes back.

    • @imapopo2924
      @imapopo2924 Před 3 lety

      @@sawyerawr5783 This is exactly why my biggest complaint of the CV rework was the infinite planes. There is literally no lasting reason for them to not just fly through AA fire to get the strike off anyways. If they had reserves to worry about, they would be much more careful with them instead of yeeting planes at ships until they sink.

    • @sawyerawr5783
      @sawyerawr5783 Před 3 lety +1

      @@imapopo2924 One friend of mine suggested that the planes be shot down in reverse: IE the guys doing the attack run get shot at (why would the gunners engage the guys clearly not on an attack vector anyway?). and more to the point they don't get replaced when knocked out, so you actually can stop a strike.

  • @demosearies7591
    @demosearies7591 Před 4 lety +38

    Can't win... ther is an issue with HE spammers, so they introduce a line of CV's that punish them the most, but happens that helps break the game more.

    • @demosearies7591
      @demosearies7591 Před 4 lety +3

      @PumpkinCougar95 at least in Beta, my Cleveland could delete planes even in a full solid uptier..

    • @demosearies7591
      @demosearies7591 Před 4 lety +5

      @PumpkinCougar95 the planes used to run out as well.. those were the good old days.

    • @demosearies7591
      @demosearies7591 Před 4 lety

      @PumpkinCougar95 no, they have a regen timer.. if you dont language for a while when low, they regen back to full.

  • @lrgpapa315
    @lrgpapa315 Před 4 lety +15

    CV idea: Switching between your rocket/torpedo/dive bombers should have a relatively long delay to simulate the switching of armaments below deck. This idea is heavily inspired by Nagumo's dilemma in the Battle of Midway

    • @rikk319
      @rikk319 Před 4 lety +3

      If the game was more realistic, carriers would be even more OP, not less.

    • @toddkes5890
      @toddkes5890 Před 3 lety +2

      If you get a chance, check out the Battle of Midway - Japanese perspective - czcams.com/video/Bd8_vO5zrjo/video.html

    • @imapopo2924
      @imapopo2924 Před 3 lety

      @@rikk319 Only to a degree. They would be more like the old system where they could do a shit ton of damage quickly, but making it too realistic would me the CV only gets 1-2 strikes off per match because launching/recovering planes takes time. These are the old WW2 straight flight deck carriers after all, not the modern super carriers that can launch and receive at the same time.

    • @rikk319
      @rikk319 Před 3 lety

      @@imapopo2924 Yes. Too much realism would make it a simulator, not a game. WW1 era battleships had a hit rate of something like 3% with their shells. Doesn't sound very fun.

  • @markcostello5120
    @markcostello5120 Před 4 lety +31

    Note to WG; Everytime that Flambass was speaking highly of carriers, THAT WAS SARCASM.

  • @mariopalenciagutierrez4318
    @mariopalenciagutierrez4318 Před 4 lety +13

    text book example of how farming dmg isn't the same as supporting your team.
    Sure, the dmg numbers look great, but the enemy CV hit where it mattered and helped the enemy team win by a landslide.

    • @neovee1780
      @neovee1780 Před 4 lety +7

      You are correct, as a DD player, I like when CVs ignore me, and prefer to farm damage off BBs. Best CV players are generally spotting for everyone and picking off low health targets, doesn't help pad their score, but usually results in a win.

    • @rekslegiune6004
      @rekslegiune6004 Před 4 lety

      @@neovee1780 So true, just imagine playing shima, no 1 is sporting you.

  • @sameerkharade7750
    @sameerkharade7750 Před 4 lety +7

    A squadron flying through 4-5 cruisers and BBs.. still survives.
    Amazing 😂

  • @estoyaqui5386
    @estoyaqui5386 Před 4 lety +5

    4:58 wrong angle of attack, reticle is all over the place, still doing triple-cita for 26.400 hp dmg - oh boy.

  • @ikman
    @ikman Před 4 lety +20

    Cant wait for the Russin ap torpedos

    • @sabrevanson4412
      @sabrevanson4412 Před 4 lety +5

      I was legit talking about this today with a friend. That i DREAD the arrival of the BALANS RU CVs....they will have MiG29s with Nuke rockets bombs, and torps

    • @flolilan
      @flolilan Před 4 lety +3

      i was thinking about that for a while but I didn't want to write it because there will be a wargaming employee sitting like : " write that down write that down"

    • @robopup1
      @robopup1 Před 4 lety +2

      you forgot the wire guided with a sonar seeker

    • @neonlight1214
      @neonlight1214 Před 3 lety

      Can't wait till their torpedoes gonna actually citadel like these submarines.... Whole heavy cruiser can be deleted...

  • @ewok40k
    @ewok40k Před 4 lety +3

    you get a citadel! and you! and him! citadels for everyone!

  • @RamonInNZ
    @RamonInNZ Před 4 lety +7

    People forget in WW2 especially the Pacific it was carrier hunt carrier, as the side with more carriers would dominate the skies both on land and at sea!

  • @Tscharny
    @Tscharny Před 4 lety +30

    CVs obviously working as intended! Just like all the rest of the "random" in RNG in this game.

    • @guvyygvuhh298
      @guvyygvuhh298 Před 3 lety +1

      the F in RNG stands for fair and balanced

  • @lonebriefcase
    @lonebriefcase Před 4 lety

    Was seeing all those smaller WoWS channels putting up their videos on this ship and was wondering when this one would show up and here it is

  • @tedd9621
    @tedd9621 Před 4 lety +1

    My Sov. Soyuz got targeted by the Richthofen yesterday with exclusive AP bombs. The damages done by the AP bombs left nothing for healing which as you state in your title -- no point to have healing items.

  • @13stalag13
    @13stalag13 Před 4 lety +2

    Flambass, the master of sarcasm!

  • @deus3x236
    @deus3x236 Před 4 lety +1

    I remember that game, but didn't realise it was flambino doing the bullying.... was in the zao. it was such a fun and engaging game -.- wasn't really getting into doing much, each time i tried to do something or get into position flambino made sure i don't ;P

  • @anthrax2413
    @anthrax2413 Před 4 lety +6

    Getting focused by carrier is so much fun. You have so much counter play.

    • @anjayl
      @anjayl Před 2 lety

      You don't get focused if you play the game right, eg : not being alone whilst playing a teambased game

    • @anthrax2413
      @anthrax2413 Před 2 lety

      @@anjayl aka, lemming train. Cuz how dare you try to create openings for your team. Team play for CV apologists means grouping up and doing the same shit every match.

    • @anjayl
      @anjayl Před 2 lety

      @@anthrax2413 Don't blame the world for your lack of imagination. CVs also prevent the game from being stale by being able to go get those HE spammers tucked behind their precious islands, they spot subs and DDs, and it's a way more demanding gameplay than playing a surface ship.
      You just have to select target and aim. CVs must select target, work angle of approach, manoeuver through AA, dodge flak, spot, watch out for fighter bubbles, get hunt by subs and DDs, manage squadrons...

    • @anthrax2413
      @anthrax2413 Před 2 lety +3

      @@anjayl Don't blame DDs and HE spammers for your lack of imagination.

    • @anjayl
      @anjayl Před 2 lety

      @@anthrax2413 Alright, I see you have some serious issues, it would be better if you could find a specialist to talk to.

  • @silvaswat
    @silvaswat Před 4 lety +13

    If this is what german CVs are. i dread to think what russian CVs (Read paper CVs) will be like when they inevitably add them

    • @drakeconsumerofsoulsandche4303
      @drakeconsumerofsoulsandche4303 Před 4 lety

      Probably crappy torps, and incredible bombers

    • @mrexists5400
      @mrexists5400 Před 4 lety

      inb4 ap torps

    • @garethfairclough8715
      @garethfairclough8715 Před 4 lety

      AP torps? Nah.
      Nuclear torps.

    • @silvaswat
      @silvaswat Před 4 lety +1

      @@garethfairclough8715 Guided nuclear torps like what the subs have just minus the ping mechanic*

    • @andrewduan5123
      @andrewduan5123 Před 4 lety

      @@mrexists5400 AP torps, none of that capitalist shit, They drop full size Nuclear submarines obviously

  • @armastat
    @armastat Před 4 lety +15

    Lol all about how 'safe it is', as he totally doesn't hear the torpedo beats of the 8 torps that just missed his carrier, lol.

    • @swirvinbirds1971
      @swirvinbirds1971 Před 4 lety +2

      Join the rest of the ships... Happens all the time. So tough that at 1 point in the game he almost didn't dodge torpedoes... 😒

  • @moonik665
    @moonik665 Před 4 lety +2

    When you're doing everything in your power to mitigate damage from CV, you get punished.
    What do you not understand?

  • @IndyBrainWave
    @IndyBrainWave Před 3 lety

    "Is this the channel for old dudes? I want to improve my torpedo beats." He's thinking of Jingles, Flambass. ;)

  • @thebudgieadmiral5140
    @thebudgieadmiral5140 Před 4 lety +2

    Fun fact, the "torpedo" that the Ta-152s are carrying...
    That's a guided anti-ship missile.

    • @guvyygvuhh298
      @guvyygvuhh298 Před 3 lety

      wtf? rly?
      thats actually interesting
      might check it out later

    • @thebudgieadmiral5140
      @thebudgieadmiral5140 Před 3 lety

      @@guvyygvuhh298 I think so, I have one slung under an Ar 234 kit of mine.

    • @guvyygvuhh298
      @guvyygvuhh298 Před 3 lety

      @@thebudgieadmiral5140 yeah they actually look way too strange to be torps
      but you know
      wg doesnt care
      TA-152s high alt interceptor? Nah lets make it a torp bomber
      Anti ship missiles? Nah, lets make them torps

  • @Alex-hy9cw
    @Alex-hy9cw Před 4 lety +1

    Had a friend with a manfred on their team doing 291k, 31 cits, must be close to WR?

  • @likebotting784
    @likebotting784 Před 4 lety +1

    imagine if this thing had Tirpitz torpedos

  • @Crimson34533
    @Crimson34533 Před 4 lety +5

    ...Oh how I DON'T miss playing this game

    • @rikk319
      @rikk319 Před 4 lety

      ...but you enjoy watching someone else play it? Why put yourself through the torture? Or do you come for the sarcasm and complaints?

    • @Crimson34533
      @Crimson34533 Před 4 lety +1

      @@rikk319 I occasionally look at the circus, but I'm not a frequent

    • @rikk319
      @rikk319 Před 4 lety +1

      @@Crimson34533 I can understand that.

    • @peterlanisch5912
      @peterlanisch5912 Před 3 lety +1

      @@rikk319 it is just captivating to realize about how fucking hard they fucked a game that started with such an huge potential. And not by accident, but rather greed based decisions. Still astonished what kind of arrogance let WG implement a ship like the Smolensk - in 2019, when the meta was already broking thx to cv rework.

  • @phoenixtalon100
    @phoenixtalon100 Před 3 lety

    You know what i'd do? I'd double the detection range of carriers.
    Thinking about it more, maybe - whenever the carrier's self-defense squadron is in the air, that can be detected and used to triangulate the approximate position of the carrier from half the map away - that way even if the ship itself isn't spotted, you can at least attempt to engage with a chance of success.

  • @Tom55data
    @Tom55data Před 4 lety +1

    I was in a game (as tier 8 carrier in tier 10 game), where the other carrier spotted me and flew in circles to keep me spotted as I spawned on one side. Then 2 BB's in his division (Yamato and another) sunk me in 2 shots each as the map was small and they could fire across the map. A way to delete a carrier at the beginning of the game.

    • @Dyx_DeTcTBa
      @Dyx_DeTcTBa Před 4 lety +1

      Never heard of Yuro, didn't you?

    • @estoyaqui5386
      @estoyaqui5386 Před 4 lety

      @@Dyx_DeTcTBa haha thats what came to my mind xD

    • @the_0dd_urca139
      @the_0dd_urca139 Před 4 lety

      Glupi Medo same here. He unknowingly ran into the legend himself

    • @rekslegiune6004
      @rekslegiune6004 Před 4 lety

      CV sniping czcams.com/video/rPD-9PKUb2I/video.html

  • @shimpoopimpoo7643
    @shimpoopimpoo7643 Před 4 lety

    that Yamato unicorn doe

  • @Moltenbramley
    @Moltenbramley Před 4 lety

    That Yamato (Sakalovo) was shocking!

  • @isaiahwilleford4618
    @isaiahwilleford4618 Před 3 lety

    After watching the fdr games watching this Carrier it feels so sped up

  • @DDayJayke
    @DDayJayke Před 3 lety

    Old dudes and torpedo beats???
    That's Jingles Channel!!!

  • @gabysse
    @gabysse Před 4 lety +1

    It sure will make the next ranked season META veeeeeery awkward.

  • @Korhanne
    @Korhanne Před 4 lety +8

    they should just add guided missiles at higher tiers.

    • @robopup1
      @robopup1 Před 4 lety

      that would so cool. :)
      The Germans did have radio guided bombs

    • @boomhaueroo8703
      @boomhaueroo8703 Před 4 lety +1

      It will happen eventually. And the game will continue its downward trend.

    • @Korhanne
      @Korhanne Před 4 lety +1

      @FBI yeah, and then they'll nerf the german battleship's accuracy just for good measure. and possibly turn them into rowboats.

    • @guvyygvuhh298
      @guvyygvuhh298 Před 3 lety

      imagine "fire and forget" anti ship missiles with 50km range

  • @avgjoegaming8271
    @avgjoegaming8271 Před 3 lety

    I was working when this was introduced but now it feels like its lost its op factor.
    I mean it might be on the better half of cvs but fdr mvr and haku still dominate

  • @droidmotorola3884
    @droidmotorola3884 Před 4 lety +2

    the way they balance this ship is they put you in a team with potatoes so is "fun and engaging" to carry your team 🙃

  • @mystier3423
    @mystier3423 Před 4 lety +1

    As a Zao main, it scares me.

  • @daphoenix9330
    @daphoenix9330 Před 4 lety

    6:04 why tf does the torps on the planes look ap like....

  • @Dumb-Comment
    @Dumb-Comment Před 3 lety

    I need the old CV gameplay, I'm addicted to it I need it to live!

    • @Steelshadow104
      @Steelshadow104 Před 3 lety +1

      To be honest I'm for this, fuck rocket planes, I always wanted to get good at RTS, and AA was actually something to fear then. The only time it was broken was when you played dumb or the CV was actually good

  • @sleepygryph
    @sleepygryph Před 4 lety

    Maybe the rockets skipped into the gearing? Kinda like the old way you could force all the bombs to hit a DD?

    • @guvyygvuhh298
      @guvyygvuhh298 Před 3 lety

      Nah they just went tru enough armor to arm

  • @etdizzle10
    @etdizzle10 Před 4 lety +1

    One of the most annoying UNfixes WG did to CVs was the heavy nerf bat to AA. I thought it was appropriate that CA/CL without torpedoes had massive AA at high levels (and certain DD's could defend themselves well). They NEEDED it. But to make ALL AA worthless is pathetic.

  • @BinnyBongBaron_AoE
    @BinnyBongBaron_AoE Před 4 lety

    I didn't even know that Kurfurst could take a citadel.

  • @sarinhighwind
    @sarinhighwind Před 4 lety +2

    the infinite planes is what bothers me about new carriers as well.

    • @the_0dd_urca139
      @the_0dd_urca139 Před 4 lety

      TN DISC SPORTS I wouldn’t be too bothered about the cv rework if the carriers had limited planes. They are already a bitch to kill with AA, and by having no limits to plane cap is just annoying and is pushing me from the game

    • @sarinhighwind
      @sarinhighwind Před 4 lety

      @@the_0dd_urca139 yeah, the old ones had a cap, which made you play wiser with your planes, this new system of who cares and shitty AA is just. meh.

  • @Brimestar
    @Brimestar Před 4 lety

    So much truth in what you said. Sarcasm was on point.

  • @colbychapman9151
    @colbychapman9151 Před 4 lety +1

    The Carrier is countered by the team. Ours or the enemies.

  • @jm1695
    @jm1695 Před 4 lety +22

    There are people who think its wrong to target CV, there is something very wrong with those people.
    Only good CV is one in a different game.

    • @liamfreeman1812
      @liamfreeman1812 Před 4 lety +2

      J M well I mean if you target Enemy CV your team reports you about 10 times cuz ya didn’t help them with the dds etc...

    • @jm1695
      @jm1695 Před 4 lety

      @@liamfreeman1812 Really? Any time I've abused or targeted CV my Karma skyrockets

  • @SmokeJam
    @SmokeJam Před 4 lety +1

    You gotta see it that way: German bomber don't perfom on stationary targets. Thats too easy, like practise... But moving targets? Oh baby "Die Luftwaffe ist hier!" (Richard Wagner "Die Walküre" starts playing)

  • @superboys99
    @superboys99 Před 4 lety +10

    Seems like CV power 1 : 0 German bias this time lol

    • @orangedream267
      @orangedream267 Před 4 lety +1

      I actually think they're slightly weaker overall than the others. Except at T8. Main issue is lack of anti DD weapons, it's basically your rockets and torps, and both require the DD to sail in a straight line.. Your planes are INSANELY squishy. At T10 the Audacious planes have something like ONE THOUSAND more HP. Even Hakyu beats them by 200-400 HP, not to mention the insane camo IJN torp planes have.
      You trade speed and striking power for HP and damage reliability in these things. You NEED to aim well or position well at the least to get your damage out. Audacious, and Midway can do the same thing this thing does with LESS care for angling.

    • @superboys99
      @superboys99 Před 4 lety +3

      @@orangedream267 but don't forget almost all the other CVs received a change in the dispersion circle in 097 which highly reduce the damage they can do to angled DDs. Which makes German CV not too shabby in terms of hunting destroyers ( since we all know mainly is the spotting mechanics of Carrier fucks the DDs) Besides haku's dive bombers alpha damage have been nerfed a couple times so when we talking about the damage value and potential, the Germans are on the of the game tbh.

    • @stevepeterson6070
      @stevepeterson6070 Před 4 lety

      Just wait until russian CVs come out.

  • @Jedisherm
    @Jedisherm Před 4 lety +1

    This is why i stick mostly to coop. Where you can still have fun and blow shit up.

  • @combatmuffin3192
    @combatmuffin3192 Před 4 lety +2

    WG: Nerfs 25k alpha on Hak
    Wg: next patch adds a cv with 26k alpha

    • @tschileo2136
      @tschileo2136 Před 4 lety

      and a "nice" german function for them: haku has 75% land a bomb into inner circle, and manf has 50%. (if the value wasn't changed since last time saw them

  • @certifiedgiggledog
    @certifiedgiggledog Před 4 lety

    If this ship only played like the graph Zeppelin

  • @Oniom3
    @Oniom3 Před 4 lety

    You missed 1 very important thing there. When You slow down during rocket plane attack, You' ll hit more cits and deal more dmg overall + rockets can cit every ca/cl on t10 for now.

  • @TheDeathJesters1337
    @TheDeathJesters1337 Před 3 lety

    WG : We won't add AP rocket, that would be toxic
    Also WG : This video

  • @Parpyduck
    @Parpyduck Před 3 lety

    I expect the inevitable Soviet CV line will feature 406mm Gatling secondaries, torpedo immunity and supersonic jets that drop actual black hole gravitational singularities that devour everything within a chosen square of the minimap.

  • @HappyJoyKill
    @HappyJoyKill Před 4 lety

    How many carries could a carrier carry , if a carrier could carry carries?

  • @NeoClarkson
    @NeoClarkson Před 3 lety

    "trying to be nice guy ended being an asshole... story of my life" me too flambass me too....

  • @fakulm1436
    @fakulm1436 Před 4 lety +1

    I've lost some braincells while watching those "Teamworks"...

  • @konstantinkurtz9346
    @konstantinkurtz9346 Před 4 lety +1

    just dodge as a BB like every DD learns in primary school

  • @m_swizzy22
    @m_swizzy22 Před 3 lety

    WHAT is the most consistent way to citadel practically uncitadelable ships in WoWS? Use carrier of same nation, ez pz, ofc there are lul pens on German BBs but German carriers are an actual pain the ass, even the lower tiers just the bombers were my main source of damage, but the rockets for broadside cruisers are also brutal, at least wows makes some German ships look good not like WoT where the tanks from Germany are mainly shit

  • @Gopnik57
    @Gopnik57 Před 3 lety

    Ngl, the thing that buggers me the most is that the German CV's got high alt. interceptors as attack aircraft..

  • @cobrazax
    @cobrazax Před 4 lety +2

    GK cant kill u as u got turtleback too...

  • @ZirconX1
    @ZirconX1 Před 4 lety +6

    No ammount of carrying can help certain teams win.
    That much I have learned in a few years of this game.
    Always depresses me when I see a unicum get confederate, high caliber, dreadnought, fireproof and close quarters expert on a german secondary build BB all the whilst ending up with 2 solo caps and a bunch of cap resets and yet the team still manages to pull off a loss.
    It is as if some people do their very level best to lose games.
    Like that is what they are going for. Playing so bad they lose it for everybody.
    Sigh.

    • @sabrevanson4412
      @sabrevanson4412 Před 4 lety

      I have BEEN that BB captain....=(

    • @A5M1TH
      @A5M1TH Před 4 lety

      @@sabrevanson4412 Dreams are wonderful yeah?

    • @rikk319
      @rikk319 Před 4 lety

      Some players suck, their learning curve is almost flat, and glide through hundreds of matches to end up at Tier X and still can't grasp angling, scouting, or working as a team.

    • @guvyygvuhh298
      @guvyygvuhh298 Před 3 lety

      Thats why I dont rly play the game, I am too big of a potato to help my team win xd

    • @sabrevanson4412
      @sabrevanson4412 Před 3 lety

      @@A5M1TH Dream? no, I have done that in a BB. Still watched my team fail and stay passive too afraid to get in the battle. I have been the brawling BB german sec build getting achs, caps and scouting while my team sits in the back. Its the current state of the game. Too passive. WG introduced broken CV mechanics, HE spam, and ships like Slava and Thunderer that all promote back line play.

  • @Steelshadow104
    @Steelshadow104 Před 3 lety

    Man I haven't followed the German CV's development. Dude that shit disgusting. First match I try playing Pommern, I lost half my hp from one bombing salvo. How tf did this get pass?

  • @alextonev3017
    @alextonev3017 Před 3 lety

    At least midway sets fires which can be 80% repaired

  • @EmeraldNep
    @EmeraldNep Před 4 lety +1

    That Yama being 4th on the team speaks more about the rest of your team than it does the Yama.
    Haven't played this game hardly at all over the past few months except for low tier stuff with friends just getting into the game.
    I see nothing has changed.
    WG please buff the playerbase.

  • @jaywerner8415
    @jaywerner8415 Před 4 lety

    well, at least the Luftwaffe is historically accurate in this footage.

    • @forcea1454
      @forcea1454 Před 4 lety

      In what way? None the aircraft in this game were grounded due to lack fuel, and none of the pilots were green trainees as a result of the Luftwaffe using all of their instructors to pilot transport aircraft that were shot down supplying Stalingrad and Tunisia.

    • @jaywerner8415
      @jaywerner8415 Před 4 lety

      @@forcea1454 fine, the Luftwaffe BEFORE hitler did a big dumb move.

  • @Sombody123
    @Sombody123 Před 4 lety +1

    18:12 Clearly Slava needs a buff or two.

    • @Dcarp7
      @Dcarp7 Před 4 lety

      Are you insane!?!?

    • @Sombody123
      @Sombody123 Před 4 lety

      @@Dcarp7 Calm down, it's just a joke.
      ...just like WG is. You know what, don't calm down. They might actually do it.

    • @Dcarp7
      @Dcarp7 Před 4 lety

      @@Sombody123 Knowing WG, they actually might. Then the joke is on them. Hehehe.
      But, I figured you were joking too.

  • @Steelshadow104
    @Steelshadow104 Před 3 lety

    10:58 please tell me the can sense the sarcasm. Don't let them believe this is okay

  • @cablebyakuya1486
    @cablebyakuya1486 Před 4 lety

    The Fdr ruines games for the enemy CV too. I saw that tonight

  • @aryakaushik3633
    @aryakaushik3633 Před 4 lety

    Thats a Thom Browne carrier

  • @frankenstein303
    @frankenstein303 Před 4 lety +8

    lol watching all the streamers talk about CVs like this reminds me why the carrier was a turning point in navel battle lol

    • @andrewadami3920
      @andrewadami3920 Před 4 lety +2

      In that sense, it's very historically accurate. CVs defined naval battles after their inception.

  • @007mrchek8
    @007mrchek8 Před 4 lety +1

    Although carriers are "over-powered", they have the lowest win rate among the four types.
    They can do constant damage no matter what ships they face, but they cannot carry your team, if your teammates are potatoes.

    • @guvyygvuhh298
      @guvyygvuhh298 Před 3 lety

      Imagine CVs being able to cap just by having planes in the cap
      A good CV player would have 80-90% win rate

  • @Gmanxxx1214
    @Gmanxxx1214 Před 3 lety

    Please watch an instructional video on how to setup green screen lighting. C'mon man!

  • @ThePalatineHill
    @ThePalatineHill Před 4 lety

    its almost like carriers are like op in real life for all the things he's complaining about or something
    (How do you balance something when that imbalance is what the thing in question is?)

    • @lunaFreya141
      @lunaFreya141 Před 4 lety +1

      Sounds like you're looking for realism in an arcade game? You know what Serb use to say to those things? "You want realism? Go join the army" but in this case navy. It's a game if you have a class that's overpowering every other class without any counter play against it then it becomes a frustrating game and you know why people play games? To have fun not to be frustrated because someone keeps citadeling you in the first 5 minutes of the game and completely destroys your ship without you doing anything but hey spreadsheet says they're having fun.

    • @redfro4992
      @redfro4992 Před 4 lety

      you put the old cv system back in and add a fuel limitation to the planes.

  • @mrexists5400
    @mrexists5400 Před 4 lety +4

    many many people: "carriers are bad for the game!"
    war gaming: makes carriers even worse

    • @lost4356
      @lost4356 Před 4 lety

      atleast before it mitigated by high skill floor but now!

    • @Notmyname1593
      @Notmyname1593 Před 4 lety +1

      maybe they heard: "carriers are bad in this game"

  • @wolf986
    @wolf986 Před 4 lety

    I was in a match where one of these took out my Republique with ONE squadron. Thanks Wargaming. I dont understand the point of having these

    • @anjayl
      @anjayl Před 2 lety

      Punish noobs who sail alone.

  • @rh4267
    @rh4267 Před 4 lety

    In the beginning I played CV’s I would use my Cleveland to protect my CV and I would get 2 -3 kills doing it but no reward but I was helping my team. Now CV play means Destroyers are impossible at level 10 and the game now is only BB’s for me.

    • @estoyaqui5386
      @estoyaqui5386 Před 4 lety +1

      Sadly true. DD-/crusier main here, but switching to BBs lately. By far the easiest class to play and perform in.

    • @Tasukete_22
      @Tasukete_22 Před 4 lety

      I was a DD/CL main but now iam a super unicum CV main 😛

  • @matty_mccarthy
    @matty_mccarthy Před 4 lety

    OP thats it!

  • @STYX3WS
    @STYX3WS Před 4 lety +1

    Manfred von Rekthofen?

  • @restarting_krnl
    @restarting_krnl Před 4 lety

    Gearing: DAME DA NEEE~~

  • @primeheal
    @primeheal Před 4 lety +2

    i take it most the guys here a high tier players with good captins and such ? How do you think this is for new players like me ive made it to tier 4 in my ussr battleship and all the games i play have 2 on each team all you do is spend 4 to 5 mins of the game eating damage and cant do anyting to stop it and there planes are endless. Was a group of my friends playing this with me all of them have given up only me still playing now. great way for them to kill the game for any new players unless they want new guys only to play co op lol

    • @primeheal
      @primeheal Před 4 lety +1

      flambass you should stream some games in some tier 4 stock ships with one skill captins and show how much fun it is =)

    • @clefsan
      @clefsan Před 4 lety

      and just think, what you experience is already an improvement. WG made changes to the matchmaker a few patches ago. before that it was not uncommon to have 3 CVs on each side in T3-T5 matches

    • @primeheal
      @primeheal Před 4 lety

      @@clefsan omg glad i was not there for that lol

  • @solanine6452
    @solanine6452 Před 4 lety +1

    I love seeing German CVs as a destroyer. They can barely do anything besides spotting me.

  • @cedric1731
    @cedric1731 Před 3 lety

    Now I think old CVs were really balanced...

  • @ghostie_21
    @ghostie_21 Před 4 lety

    I fucking hate playing bb now. It’s either fire or these fucking things hitting me for more than half my health.

  • @I_OptimusPrime
    @I_OptimusPrime Před 4 lety

    Happens only in world of warships

  • @KarolisKauneckas
    @KarolisKauneckas Před 3 lety

    whats next? soviet cv's with nuclear bombs?

  • @EvoraGT430
    @EvoraGT430 Před 4 lety +1

    Every video reinforces my decision to quit this game. It used to be great, but is beyond saving now. No idea how guys like Flambass and Flamu can put up with this crap day in , day out.

  • @jadeasereht4638
    @jadeasereht4638 Před 3 lety

    They need to decrease rocket power and I crease AA damage

  • @007mrchek8
    @007mrchek8 Před 4 lety +1

    so my point is cv needs a change, not a nerf

  • @chichrigga3278
    @chichrigga3278 Před 3 lety

    why would u use fighters on top of enemy battleship. that makes no sense🤔. use fighter for spotting will win you more games

  • @fatseadoggo1017
    @fatseadoggo1017 Před 3 lety

    Flambass's teammates where probably 7 yr olds playing on their 16 yr old brother's pc

  • @donwanna3906
    @donwanna3906 Před 4 lety +1

    You're wondering why a bomb will miss on a perfect run. Silly man, it's German, so the dispersion gets you! xD

  • @AllAhabNoMoby
    @AllAhabNoMoby Před 4 lety

    Et tu, Flambass?

  • @gotafarmyet4691
    @gotafarmyet4691 Před 4 lety +1

    The Yama did well because 5 players died on your so fast that him just being alive gave enough points. I cannot wait until the next clan battle when it will be 7 vs 7 carriers

    • @siriusczech
      @siriusczech Před 3 lety

      could be fun to see CV only battle - like 4v4 or even 7v7, expecially in T4, but in any tier to be honest. Same with BBs only.
      Or better - only CVs and DDs, combined as liked. Would be really interesting.

  • @rikk319
    @rikk319 Před 4 lety +2

    Funny how carriers are complained about as being so powerful, with minimal risk because they stay out of range of surface artillery...and yet that's why battleships and cruisers are now obsolete in reality. They're superior ships in reality, but in an MMO they have to be incredibly nerfed just to have a semblance of balance in this type of game.
    I play all classes of ships in WoWS, and enjoy them all. I don't have complaints...if I did, I'd play something else. I wish Wargaming would make a CV-less battle choice, so the rest of us could hear less whining about them, and just play in peace.

    • @guvyygvuhh298
      @guvyygvuhh298 Před 3 lety

      no that would be smart from wg, you know they are a bunch of disabled drunk apes ans cant balance anything, if its german, it sucks, if its russian, its way too strong, unless your a Khaba or Trashkent, if its a CV its god tier
      And its just stupid how WG made CVs have infinite planes, almost non existent fire duration (5 sec from 40-45 sec), planes can no take off if the flight deck is on fire, that used to be the case only if you took the perk
      Wg buffed CV from being good but only if you know how to play them to borderline overpowered and broken for no real reason