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- čas přidán 26. 07. 2022
- 80% of the audio in this US Government film had to be deleted due to copyright claims. (USA!! USA!!)) But this interesting 16mm film was made by the City of Washington, DC to promote itself and stars William Shatner as our tour guide. This film was shot before the completion of the NASM on the Mall, but it includes an interesting visit at 12:15 to the National Air Museum which used to reside in a Quonset Hut located on the South Yard which contained the classic American aircraft as well as the Command Module Columbia and LEM2 at that time. When the NASM was built for the Bicentennial the National Air Museum was demolished. Enjoy!
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Friend of mine had this to say about the video:
"In a few books Shatner has written that I have, he said these were the EXTREMELY lean years where he was barely getting any work. Freshly divorced after the series went off the air, he was acting in traveling theater, taking any job he could get. Broke, hungry, giving his ex and kids most of the money he made.
He made enough money to buy an old 1950s camper that he attached to a truck and lived in that. Didn’t even have an apartment or home. Taking literally any television guest star job he was offered. That’s why you see him in such random shit in the 70s. He said he lived off canned fruit cocktail and canned beans.
He still has that Captain Kirk original series voice in this. The same voice on the Star Trek Animated Series cartoons (which are underrated)."
Comi cons and other appearance gigs must be a blessing to many actors, bringing in extra cash when they have gaps in roles .Im sure pay cheques were a lot less in those days than they are now hence the amount of B movies or TV series many well known actors appeared in.
The Star Trek cartoons are still on youtube...I watch them on Saturdays for years and I just turned 60...now we have spongebob...please?
@@ChiefBrokenHeart He probab;ly get as more for Spongebob as he was paid for the origional Start Trek series.
@@ChiefBrokenHeart Star Trek: The Animated Series brought over left-over stories and previous writers from The Original Series. It's just as good writing as the original three seasons. It's real Star Trek.
Shat is unusually banal.
It’s not that bad folks - she’s doing all she can with the ridiculous money-grubbing copyright trolls and once you give it a minute or two, your ears acclimate to the stops and starts.
BIG THANKS FRAN for keeping this old lost Americana footage alive! 😄👍🏻
@@sideburn That's not how it works. Profit is not an issue with copyright law. It's simply the use of the material that can be infringing. For instance, my channel is not monetized. I lose money putting up videos, but I still get copyright claims.
@@sideburn You can proceed with the post, but the claimant will run ads in your video and will make the money off the ad. Maybe I misunderstood what you were saying. Sorry about that.
@@ScottGrammer the copyright holder can actually go a step further and refuse to allow the video to be posted at all, even with monetisation on tocollect revenue.
Excess copyright strikes can also put Fran at risk for additional punitive action, for example she could be denied the ability to live stream. Today's copyright is truly draconian and harmful to culture. It has been perverted to manufacture a business model for large content brokers and publishers instead of the original intent to protect and encourage creators.
@@markshanehayden4648 You're exactly right. And you can thank Hollywood (The Digital Millennium Copyright Act) Disney (the Sonny Bono Copyright Term Extension Act) for it.
@@markshanehayden4648 Your right about copyright laws benefit the big corporations and not the creators (or little guys).
"Music Removed Due To Copyright" were my favourite band in the 1960s.
Hi Fran. Those copyright claims are so annoying! At least you were able to enjoy the film as it was originally intended. I lost count of the deleted clips, but that was so much work for you! Thank you for your efforts, they are appreciated.
Very nice job transferring film to CZcams. Thank you for your work.
What a shame that the copyright ghouls made you remove so much of The Shat's narration. But a great film.
Narration isn’t lost - only spaces with music and no narration are trimmed out.
Hard to believe he spoke so little...
Hi Fran, would have loved some subtitles when the music was removed.
That kirk unit could have done with his jacket pressed.
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Thank you, Fran, for this. The message at the end is more important these days than ever. But, it's interesting that they hired a Canadian to tell this story!
That's what I was thinking.
Shatner is really an amazing person. He has always been able to reinvent himself and keep working now for more than 70 years. Onward Bill…..
Thank you for all that you do. Wonderful
I'm not an American, (a massive Shatner fan however that's to do with Start Trek) but in all seriousness THANKS Fran for this piece of film short. It rolled out the year i started High School in my country. I just learned so much about America's core History (it's like: bloody hell, i didn't know that) watching this presentation in the last 20mins than i was ever exposed to so far in all my life!
Thank for providing this interesting little film. I enjoyed it very much! Copyright trolls are a constant pain in the a$$, a reform is urgently needed.
Very cool, Fran!! I learned a lot. I wish I was taught some of this in school.
It would be nice if CZcams would allow educational videos without the copyright on music because it is interfering with the non copyrighted material video is missing a lot of William shatner is saying.
Maybe do vocal only filter.
Probably impossible to dig up what license they had for the music when they made the video, it's not like the copyright on the music existing as such would just be up to youtube
Kinda ironic hearing Shatner say, “our government “ when he’s actually Canadian……
At 18:08, "With malice towards none, with charity towards all". Boy, that sure has been flipped on its head in recent years.....😖
I still can't believe that I made a purchase about 5 years ago at the same Gilroy California fruit stand where William Shatner recently forgot his wallet.
? Tell us more??!!
Isn't this the one where Kirk and Bones save the whales ? 🐳
Why not upload the film to the internet archive with the unmuted audio and there problem solved.
While I agree that uncensored versions of all of Fran's old films should be uploaded to the Archive, that's far from "problem solved."
The problem of egregious, mostly unjustified, automated claims against both use of audio and video clips on CZcams would continue.
The problem of Fran receiving any compensation for the time and effort put into making, carefully color-correcting, and uploading these transfers would definitely remain unsolved. 😕 I don't expect her to work for free, and while she may love being able to share these, she's never downplayed the effort involved in doing it. Some people can afford to do very time-intensive things for free, and some can't. That's just how our society is, unfortunately.
Nice suit, Captain! Seriously, the bit of music I could hear in the background really brought back my childhood. I was in third grade in 1973. Copyright trolls claimed ownership of that fluff music? Sad!
It's cool to see the video, regardless, and to see William Shatner doing serious work outside of one his most famous roles. Thanks for doing this, Fran!
Imagine holding a national competition that anyone could enter for a building design, in the days before the Internet, where all drawings had to be on paper and submitted by mail, and they probably had many many thousands of them to sort through and process and evaluate. Stacks and stacks of mailed in architectural diagrams and blueprints. It must have been quite a job to go through all of them and pick the most worthy contenders.
thanks Fran 👍
i wonder if a program like RTX Voice could be used to pull just the voice and remove all the music. it might save you some work on muting stuff
Thanks for the info! I'd actually never heard of that. I just downloaded the nvidia broadcast software, and will check it out this weekend.
@@ScottGrammer its worth a look, pretty powerful software :) there are other things that do the same thing too :)
nice rip Fran..anybody else notice that Shat sounds almost normal during the off-camera narration, but the minute the camera's on him he starts pausing & inflecting like Kirk
Also the Shat patent pronunciation of Merya-Land
@@FranLab The one that kept itching my ears was _gov-O-mint._ 😂
Thanks much for the upload. Enjoyed it!
This is horrible, we need to get copyright limited to less than 50 years. F Disney!
Our country! He`s Canadian(:
Exactly!
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Ho wow! Just love to see that windows into the past and learn about Washington! Would have loved to see that projected at school. We had the VCR cart thing, the irony is that we were watching transfer of the school 8 and 16 mm.
IT's really gotten to the point that the Copyright laws on Music, is just making it very difficult to enjoy someone's work, just because they aren't getting their royalty each time it's played to any kind (or size) of audience.
CZcams really needs to tone copyright claiming machines down. This is not the future!!
Very sad to see how copyright destoy's music and video on youtube. Now nobody will ever listen to this piece again, and it be forgotten. They won but actually they lost .
It's historically educational, and I too am very surprised it isn't free use. Too me, it passes the test to allow. There are some idiots about these days, dogs in mangers, as in the Bible.
Fran there are some new websites that run superb AI spectral demixing algorithms that can cleanly separate music and voices and even separate individual instruments. People are using them to demix and remix very primitive wide stereo mixes into mixes that sound like they were made from multitrack. You could easily run the audio through and totally strip out or greatly reduce the music volume.
Music has to be eliminated - and I did eliminate it. What kind of result are you expecting instead?
It would eliminate lots of tedious editing and the awkward sudden drops in volume. It would also help in areas where voices and copyrighted music are mixed and it still gets flagged. You could post a file share link with a short clip something that has both voice and copyright music and me or others could test the algorithms and post the results.
Isn't there some way you can put in non-copyright music? The starts and stops make watching the videos impossible. I barely got through 4 minutes of it.
This should be allowed free use. If anything should, it is this - it's historical and educational. Blimming copyright legalities, locusts!
Presented in Living Eastman Color!
What the CZcams copyright trolls have done to you Fran is despicable. This is the greatest work of art Shatner made before Rocket Man. It belongs in the public annals of history, not feeding lawyers.
Seriously though, the censorship butchered this public documentary so it is basically unwatchable. More unwatchable than Rocket Man even, and that's saying something. What can we do to help you appeal? Anything?
He looks like a young Denny Crane, before Mad Cow.
Fran - Can't you feed the audio through some sort of software to remove the music? Some of the new stuff is excellent at stripping music or speech from a sound track.
I'm not sure why people believe that works... To eliminate intermixed audio selectively you need clear masters of all the originals. I will never have that.
@@FranLab Thanks Fran. I never thought it worked either, but I've seen youtube videos where people does say it work. Think I've been duped🙄
Virtual dj does it for music. From a mixed single track
virtualdj help /stems
Stems' refers to the individual parts of a track that put together make the song, such as the vocals, the instruments, the drums, etc.
VirtualDJ 2021 uses advanced technology and the power of today's computers to instantly separate any loaded track into these basic components, in real-time. This opens the door to new ways of mixing that were simply not possible before, and will forever change the way DJs mix. Weither to perform live mashups and remixes, or enhanced seemless transitions, mixes made by DJs using VirtualDJ 2021 just sound better than what can be achieved on older software or hardware, no matter the DJ's skills.
At 5:54, somebody on ship holding a lit torch throws the torch down on the deck! 😳 💥
Thanks for providing this information, Ms Fran. I appreciate you.
80% of the audio removed. Definitely too much, I don't watch it. You need to look for an alternative video website for some archive videos.
its worth watching just to see what WDC looked like in 1973. I think the first time I visited DC was in 1976.
my sanity has been removed due to copyright! ©😩
You should had put your own music in it ♥️
At least these old films are being given a second life, even if the copyright trolls have to be appeased...
Half way through and giving up. I've learned that Shatner pronounces the 'y' in Maryland same that CZcams discourages historical preservation. Fran, did you post the non-neutered version anywhere else?
Did you insult the algorithm's mother Fran? You provide such excellent content but it seems to give you more trouble than just about anyone else. Thanks for keeping up the hard work
I interrupted the filming on the set of a commercial Shatner was in, much to the dismay of the director, and to the amusement of Shatner.
Tell us more???
@@rossydv I was crying and making noise causing them to stop filming. The director called for someone to get that kid a lollypop and Shatner laughed at the directors frustration.
@@chinanorthairguns do you remember what product/commercial?
@@rossydv Loblaws Canada commercials.
Cool beans! I even learned a bit. Have you ever seen Shatner and Nimoy in some sort of crime drama?
They were together in an episode or two of T.J. Hooker. I think Leonard Nimoy directed some of the episodes too.
Both appeared in several Colombo episodes as the villians. Shatner also appeared in a few Mission impossible episodes but I don't think Nimoy was in those episodes. I think the may have appeared in the same episodes of the Man from Uncle.
was the the Apollo 11 Command Module, "Columbia," named after the District of Columbia?
Fran, these copyright ghouls are terrible! Isn't that film copyrighted? If so, how can they lay claim to that film that is copyrighted and in your possession?
I have 2 boxes full of 16mm films, and every time I see one of these videos, makes me want to dig them out to see what's on them.
Thanks!
16:54 wow FDR & Hoover ridin' together to the inauguration...imagine if they did that nowadays?
Damn copyright abuses standing in the way of education, meeeeeeeh. What has the country come to? Greed over freedom, it seems.
The Apollo 11 command module - now here's where things get Fran-tastically interesting!
At 8:58, it is worth noting that the size of the House of Representatives really hasn't needed to change much since the 1850s because we haven't added additional representatives commensurate with our huge increase in population since then. I read somewhere that if we had kept the same population to representative ratio we'd have close to 10,000 reps in the House of Representatives!
I'm surprised no one's claimed copyright on William shatner's voice. Such BS the music copyrights on an educational film that is 50 years old.
Are the names listed on the copyright claims those of the actual composers of the music or merely names of copyright trolls who have "purchased" the rights to it, or merely claim to have done so? (Does Google ask for proof of ownership or merely take their word for it?). And what does PRS mean?
She tried to explain it in one of her videos, and it seems all there to do is claim it, they don't have to prove it, I'm sure most of them trolls are liars and they're given benefit of the doubt.
Really?? Content ID nailed you on _all_ these music clips? It doesn't even sound like commercial music for the most part, just hoary old '60s-'70s library music. Who is/are the claimants? Ed Norton?
Maybe there's a way to (mostly) isolate the vocals eg using Audacity.
This is great found footage, had no idea he did stuff like this between treks.
"When on Earth, do as the Earthlings."
So.... Shatner's vice has not been copyrighted by Maurice LaMarche?
This would be so much better with the Audio, darn those copyright fools... Still thanks, what a cool reel!
You're a trooper. I don't know if you watch Rick Beato's channel but he deals with this troll crap too. Cool film.
Copyright trolls sure do hate history.
Shatner's cadence must have made gating the music a tedious exercise.
There really needs to be a change to copyright law. Once the original rights holder (who has to be a real person...corporations can't write or perform music) sells the rights or dies, limit the secondary owner to 20 years and then it's public domain. No renewal or reinstatement for a longer period after first sale or conveyance of rights.
Music isn't so damn special that its rights holders can stop the incidental use of it for a century or more.
I didnt know that NYC was the original capital of America.... I thought it was a Dutch territory at the time?
Thanks Fran.
Get in contact with Bill Shatner, Fran - he'll pull some strings to get this shown in original condition. Honestly, do. I have spoken to him many times online over the years - he'll definitely do it. But remember to ask him how his horses are. 😁 Brilliant fella, over 90 now but still healthy and very active. Amazing fella. 👍
You just don't get it do you? Its not that Fran just wants to show this one film in its original form, she is protesting against her predicament. What Fran is doing (at least what I think she is doing) is making these videos and doing what she has now been trained to do (via the system trying to punish her for using the music in old films she owns) as a way to satirize (make fun of) the effects of this situation she is in. She is going 'Ok, I can't use the music so there see how you like it, nyah nyah!!' And I do think it is quite hilarious to watch a film like this one where she has done that. But this has gotten me thinking. Yes, she should do like this, but I think she should take it to another level. She should do something like record all the clips of the music she has taken out (just for her personal use), and rerecord them but instead of the original music, she would play a kazoo or something and try to recreate the music but make it sound really sour with a kazoo or an untuned piano or something. And then insert that back into the video at those places where you had to remove the music (but then I am assuming they couldn't still get her for copyright infringement just for playing the music on a kazoo). And everyplace she replaced the score with her own music, instead of saying "Music Removed Due To Copyright", she could say "Music Re-scored By Fran Blanche Due To Copyright". And then, with this new video with all the music (without narration) cues taken out and replaced with kazoo music, you should publish this video on twitter or something. If it went viral, then she might actually make such a splash that maybe it could result in some kind of legislation or something to prevent this type of thing (getting screwed by trolls based on copyrights) from happening. But yeah, I think it might really be a hit. And if someone saw it and pointed it out to Bill Shatner, that might really improve the odds of having some effect.👍
yeah, Shatner will redo the voice overs for Fran! Maybe add his voice flare to make it stand out.
Shatner Legend
Sorry to say, really hard to get into this, with sound cutting in and out.
Love the thumbnail
Dig those lapels!
class
Nothing says USA then having a Canadian explain how it works.
Of course all of you know he is a good Jewish boy from Montreal Canada. We are very proud of him in Canada.
I appreciate the effort but the trolls make it unwatchable. YT needs to sort this before users become ex users
Thanks for uploading this Fran, I don't know how much of a pain it would be to put subtitles on but I would appreciate them and it would add to my enjoyment of the film.
Fran, could we get subs for when the copyright elves step on your production?
Infuriating copyright claim, destroys this historical clip. If you posted it in France, it wouldn't be, different use laws there.
What music was copywritten?
See the Community page.
Shirley frame at 0:14
Was that tie wide enough?
Huge shirt lappels and brown tweed bell bottoms. 70's cheque.
Like his outfit. Wonder if he was American citizen here was originally from canada
Two Thumbs up on the Video, And Two Ear Flops on the Audio....But it still got a few Eye pops, and Some Tail Wags on the History Part..
Forty nine years ago
This music copyright thing is out of control.
It would have been much better to remove the music and leave the speech audio. Using a filter like you can do with removing the singing from a song and leaving the music intact but in reverse.
Easy to do.
I did remove the music and leave the speech audio.
I wonder if you own a copy of the film Incubus, now that's something and a half
Spock! What's going on?
We have been invaded, Captain.
Invaded? By what?
Trolls, Captain. Copyright trolls.
The music is America's music, so its not copyrighted.. if it is, then it should be burned 🔥
beam us up Scotty interesting never seen that before
A lot of work Fran,,but well worth doing.,.i find incidental music irritating anyway....thanks.
Perhaps, if needed,,create some bland generic music that you could own..and replace...be then people would complian about boring music..can't win ...but I like this work.
Cut the music out completely. Money/monkey 0
I composed a great piece of music I don't allow anyone to hear
1814 - British diplomacy at its best .. god sakes!
9:51 "Angry white men being born right now, who don't understand the basics of what I'm telling you will go on to attack the building behind me in 50 years time, setting off a chain of events that closely resemble "The Omega Glory". I'm here from the future, your future, to warn you. Kirk out"
Sorry... I just could not continue watching this. The muted spots just ruin the video. 😕
Just mute the whole video, and no shock.
@@FranLab not a solution. Either whole audio, either no video at all.
@@FranLab , can captions be enabled for these films you post? When I push the captions button it says "no captions available for this video". CZcams software can add auto captioning to most, but not all, videos where the actual content creator is speaking. For a supposedly all-knowing, all seeing, all-powerful AI, Google doesn't seem very competent. (Lily Tomlin as Ernestine the operator just popped into my head: "Mr. Dweasel, we can do whatever we want. We are the phone company. We are omnipotent!").
Fuck the copyright
“No, I’m from Iowa. I only work in outer space… and occasionally on planet Earth when I was trapped due to a time travel issue…”
I have a copyright claim on Shatner's wig.
How did they survive without a cell phone?....... 🙄🙄🙄
It was a MUCH better time. Simpler. Easier. A ton less chaotic and anxiety-inducing. Sure, you only had 2 or 3 tv stations to watch, but you weren’t ever bored or wanting for something more.