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World Adventures is still one of my favorite expansion packs ever to this day. The fact that we got THREE worlds in one pack, with each giving the player so much to do and explore. I really wish we had something like this in TS4. It makes me feel so nostalgic and gives me feelings of joy whenever I see the worlds. ❤
Me too. I really hoped jungle adventure would be more like it. And it was just close enough to make me want more lol
The pack was sooo good!
@@amandanicole624 I really liked the Jungle Adventures pack, especially the beautiful world. I just wish we got MORE with it (just like with every Sims 4 pack we get lol). It could definitely use a refresh.
@@stephaniexenia1352 Yeah it was!
Plus three full fledged skills and great builds and so many collectables
Word Adventures really puts the EXPANSION in expansion pack
Seeing this and still get mad nostalgia. Despite fact I'm still actively playing Sims aka (heavily modded) TS4 atm. Took a break playing TS3 for almost a year now. Just ran into this lilsimsie memory lane flashback and inspired to return to SV! This vacation world is THE BEST for the law enforcement/secret agent branch. Unlike TS4, your vacation gets started in several ways. Your law enforcement Sim can get a random career opportunity phone call. Or just visit traditional way by doing a personal/family visit. I usually did both taking the family on regular vacation while doing the biz part of trip. It also seems a lot of the more casual simmers don't realize that Al Simhara has a really ADVANCED main quest/plot line which helps this career track. This involves a shadowy org called Mogahsu? (spelling) corp. Depending on your sim's good/evil nature and who they sim met in Al Simhara, they get option to side with this evil corp (if help agent of this corp). Or do good and help a local sim defeat them. You can even invite these foreign sims to stay with you in your homeworld (SV, BP etc). And best part about WA is this particular quest takes several trips and really fun, immersive way to level up your sim's visa, physical, martial arts skills.
YEH!
I still don't think I ever finished all those tombs...
@@FirelillyHeals ME EITHERR
the effort that the sims team put into this pack has always shocked me. the fact that they not only designed three full worlds with heaps of new gameplay and items, but they created all kinds of lore and quests and built tons of different tombs in each world!! absolute heroes. sims 4 packs could never 😭😭
I know 😭 They used to put so much effort and lore into their games. I've been playing The Sims Medieval (+ the pirate pack) for a month straight now and even though my kingdom is fully built and all my heroes are the highest level by now there are still lots of quests available.
I miss quest driven gameplay. Sims 4 Strangerville just didn't hit the same.
EA is too stingy for money now a days, they will never give us this again unfortunately
Also the fact that there were different simlish accents was so fricking cool..
There are also local songs that your sims can learn in each destination, I loved doing that! And then your sims would sing them while cooking or in the shower. It's a small detail, but I've always found this so cute!
Oh my gosh, YES!!!!!!
I had a sim who married a sim from china and had a kid, the kid didn't get the hidden chinese culture trait so the dad taught her some songs, it's such a cute bonding interaction
Weren't there also chopsticks? I think use of them were a hidden trait you could pass on if you married a Sim from China.
There are so many different ways you can bond with the locals. Even France's "I need a date" repetitive adventure (go build relationship, ask out for sim, report in) makes you feel like you're building a reputation with the locals. I never really liked how much Selvadorada only has one or two adventures that have you interacting with the locals, usually when you need a cure. Sims 3 WA lets you meet up with the locals a lot and interact with the world more (go to lot and investigate the puzzles vs one or two temple locations that cycle).
There’s also three different incense dispensers and they each have a different scent that give you different moodlets. The one from China gives you a brain boosting moodlet and it is shaped like a dragon. The one from France is shaped like a soldier boy and gives a love is in the air moodlet, and the Egyptian one is shaped like an ankh and gives a mellow feeling moodlet.
it’s insane how complex the tombs in world adventures are!! there are parts in the tombs that even i as an adult now struggle with and have to look up how to do or use cheats for. the worlds are beautiful, there is so much to do, recipes to buy, interesting sims to befriend. the amount of time it must have taken to make this pack is so wild. egypt is hands down the best world because of how many tombs there are and how complex they are. comparing it to the sims 4 where there’s only 1 world per pack and you can explore 1 tomb per trip, you don’t have to do any thinking, you can just autopilot your way through it, there are little to no consequences for getting something wrong. it’s literally just clicking on objects to get to the end. i could go on for hours about this pack!! i miss spending hours in a single tomb, my sims getting into fights with mummies, getting set on fire from stepping on invisible traps, it was just amazing!!
only down side for me is I don't think the tombs reset at all. So if you play for generations it becomes a bit of a disappointment
@@ca1txcat yes that’s true! i’ve had that happen in legacy families and it really sucks
Totally! I had sooo many ts3 packs as a teen but not this one, so I bought it a couple of years ago and was shook! I didn't think itd be my type of thing but it's soooo fun and engaging. It so easily coulda been baby puzzles, but it's not, it's really fun. Altho on my first run thru I was genuinely scared by the holes in the walls and floor bc I thought darts and flames would just kill my Sim at random. Lol it's not quite that hardcore
Totally agree!!! It’s just how cool how you can use these mechanics for yourself as well, with building actual secret invisible rooms. I love that quest where you literally have to use the restroom of the family so that the basement reveals itself. This game is the first expansion pack for sims 3 and it ate and still does in 2023, after so many packs came out
OK now I want TS3 even tho I never thought I needed it lol
i cannot explain the dread i felt when you said this pack is 14 years old. i feel so ancient holy moly 😭
I still remember seeing the ads for this expansion and getting it for Christmas, I just turned 24 this month... Literally wild to put it into perspective just how much time has passed, I didn't feel that old til just then T_T
@@chloedsmith alright well I was 13 when Sims 1 was released, so please have respect for your elders 😂
I started playing Sims 2 when my daughter was born, the progressed to Sims 3 and Sims 4. I have all the expansions and additional packs for all 3 games. To give you an idea, my daughter will be 19 in December. 😋
@@Gerrly I was born a few months after Sims 1 was released 😂
Wild to me that I used to play sims 3 when I was 6! I remember playing one and two as well wayyy before that, and waiting for sims 3 to come out. Puts into perspective how long I’ve been playing this game 💀
I remember playing World Adventures when I was 11 and teleporting outside of the tombs when it was getting too scary for me 😂
Haha yes same here!! As soon as K heard that munmy music my Sims would be Gone from there. Later on I learned to use the cheat that allows you to build on any lot and I would simply build a fence around the coffins lol
OMG yess
I'm glad people still to this day recognize how amazing this pack is. The amount of nostalgic memories that I have related to it makes it even more top tier to me than it already is
There are a lot of hidden doors and rooms that you missed. These are the smallest tombs, some of them are literally 64x64 lots on many levels. I have played this game so many times but every time I do it again I still discover new places I hadn't seen before. The Landgraab mansion is one of my favourites to discover. In France, the winery is humongus and it is actually very hard to get to the end. I miss the creative freedom we had when making wines. Now in TS4 we only have a few options.
Also mourning the tombstones will give the holes to inspect.
@@ladyatlarge3844 I never knew this! Wow
This is my all time favourites sims pack, i really don't think they're gonna top it. I remember being so scared to put my sims in danger i made an explorer "throwaway" sim to explore all the tombs, ended up being my favourite sim, died of old age while punching her training dummy (with a black belt, of course) RIP Jenny, will never forget you.
And the danger was real. Especially on my first playthrough I had to reload several times after dying.
one of my favorite features from the sims 3 is that you can click on a window and get your sim to view the inside of the house. the sims inside will get mad and run out and yell at you. i would always shift click and teleport my sim inside their house so i could watch them be confused😭
I never knew Rhys aha!!
I LOVED doing that lol. I would always sneak inside and steal all their valuables.
I love making my sims look out their window like they're contemplating life, especially when theyre going thru a midlife crisis- its never NOT funny to me 💀💀
We got 3 expansive, detailed worlds in a single pack in TS3 and now we're in the TS4 nightmare where you hopefully get one world with 12 lots total. I miss TS3 so dearly all the time. I wish I still had my old legacy saves for it still 😢
27:25 you need to soak your sim in those pools until they get wet. then have your wet sim stand next to the fire until they make a puddle and it puts out the fire trap! Or you can swim across and push the statues on the traps too.
31:33 You need Pangu's Axe to break through that! That is why I ALWAYS recommend you go to Sim China first and go through the quests until you get the "breaking boulders" ones. Always get Pangu's Axe first before exploring the other areas!
I absolutely hate the tomb for the axe! Its so intricate and complicated and more often than not my game never has that quest pop so I just cheat the axe into my sims inventory lol
I on the other hand visit France first to woo a french boy and then dipped 😂
OMG I forgot that you had to go explore other worlds to get skills or things that are needed to unlock things in different worlds! That was a great way to make you explore each world.
I clicked so fast when I saw this! World Adventures is my favorite Sims expansion pack! I still remember the fear fueled adrenaline when the music for the mummies started!
I was sooo scared of them omg
lol...Yes, Being chased by a mummy (despite them being Slow) did get bit intense. But it was kinda fun. Sims 3 was so cool.@@etheplant
this is probably one of the packs i played the most it's absolutely incredible, best value for money out of any sims related games imo. i remember i played with two sims (friends at first, lovers by the end) and i had them complete every single quest line in every world and it took FOREVER, i remember i was playing that safe for months. also, the quests weren't just bound to one area each, these people were sending me from one country to another and back just to complete their silly little tasks!! thank god my sims were absolutely loaded from all the treasure they wrongfully stole from ancient tombs lol. by the end of the ordeal i had the two sims get married. of course this was sims 3, so naturally on their wedding day the one guy nearly got killed by a meteor... think it would've been really funny if that's how he went out after going through his dangerous adventures for what must've been a decade in sims time, but fortunately for him he survived. world adventure didn't feel like Sims 3, it was like a completely different game to me. sometimes i'd really like to go back to playing sims 3 but i just know i'd probably never touch sims 4 again.
i remember not knowing the mummy curse had uh... dire consequences. i'm sure the game warned me but i didn't do anything about it. suddenly my sim died inside a tomb right next to the treasure and i hadn't saved my game in like 8 hours irl. i honestly never emotionally recovered from that game over. i still think about it whenever i realize i haven't saved my game in a while
I would have to stop playing for days omg im so sorry T-T
I know people always talk about how good generations was, but World Adventures remains my fav expansion pack of any Sims game. So freaking solid.
First ever expansion pack I ever played. The mummies have me actual nightmares. I used to avoid Egypt for this reason until to my horror I found out the mummies were in every world. Not sure if I've actually managed to go through the whole thing, it's just so much to experience. Great, great pack, not just the catacomb exploration either. Used to love the long-distance friends too.
I loved the vacation home rental aspect.
Great if you're doing a legacy challenge and need to start another (secret) family 😉
I’ve never hit like on a lilsimsie video so fast. I played World Adventures TO DEATH. The tombs were so cool.
I was always so obsessed with having my sims learn all the regional songs and teaching them to people back in the regular world
Me too!!
Yes and then they would regularly be singing it while gardening or taking a shower. 😂😂😂😂
My favourite part of Sims 3 was the Winchester Mansion style monstrosities you could make once you figured out all the cheats and debug commands to program your own dungeons. I could spend hours turning my house into an inescapable maze with secret doors, disappearing stairs and weird traps.
Anyone else love the Sims 3 videos
i do
Nobody, youre the only one.
@@shaniah9322 not true 🤡
I dooo❤
I do 🌺
The sims 3 was just so much fun. So much stuff to do always and was worth the lag
I love this type of content. I’m not big on livestreams just because I’m here for the content and not fan interaction, but that might just be me. I’d be so down for like 1 hour videos of you exploring every pack from the sims 2 and 3 individually. Especially now that the sims 2 isn’t accessible to relive my memories and to be able to preserve the game in case it just becomes unplayable in the future would be so cool!
Kayla seems to be having more fun exploring sims 3. I understand that feeling. I wish I could but my computer can’t handle it with the sims 3
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All 3 worlds had "story mode quests" and at the end you get a useful reward for example in China you get an axe to remove those big boulders in Egypt. Also you could turn into a mummy or have a deadly encounter with one. Overall worth the money and the load times
If the Sims 5 could be a mix of the Sims 4 & 3, I’d be soooo happy. I miss the open worlds!
I remember when this pack first came out! I got it for Christmas and this pack also came with a guidebook describing the complex quests/tombs. And were not talking like a little pamphlet. That guidebook was pretty thick!
The car driving into the temple at 10:05 had me CACKLING, especially when Kayla didn't notice 😂
I loved TS3 World Adventures!
Shang Simla (China) is my favourite out of the 3 worlds!
I love the Kayla says “shops” instead of “stores” , the british lingo is showing 🤩🤩
This brings back some of my best memories playing the Sims...I'm pretty sure this is the only thing I did in Sims 3 for YEARS!!
I’m pretty sure that the extensive menu at the French Cafe is an NRaas thing. I’m not sure what the setting is, but it’s not supposed to display every food, and NRaas I think unlocks it!
This pack is superior than all other sims packs.
This brings back a lot of memories! I mostly hung out in the Egyptian world, I loved exploring and unlocking secrets.
I’m so happy to see some appreciation for this pack! It’s so often overlooked, but there is so much to it. I overlooked it for a long time and only recently started actually using it. And I have had SO much fun exploring tombs and doing missions with my two Sims. I’d love to see a video like this on Into The Future, it’s also very overlooked but is honestly one of my favorite Sims 3 packs.
World adventures is so good, it could have been it's own separate sims game 😊 I never got tired of this pack and I always discovered something new when playing it
I’ve been playing the sims 3 lately and went to France with my husband for our honeymoon. I got an adventure to go to the museum and explore because guests were getting scared by noises and unexplained events. Long story short the curator of the museum ending up dying after getting sealed in a sarcophagus (pretty sure that’s what happened) and was now haunting the museum. I was instructed to take his bones and place them to rest in a cemetery so his body could be with his family members. I literally had a skeleton in my sims inventory for a bit, I was like “damn sims 3, you got pretty dark for a bit.” Still think vacations were done the best in sims 2, when I go vacation I like to do some touring but I also like just chilling for a day or two so I like that sims 2 lets you do that. But sims 3 world adventures is still pretty fun
world adventures is genuinely my favourite sims pack everrr, i really wanna play it again now
ts3 world adventures is SUCH a legendary pack, so fun, so detailed! So much replay-ability, I still play it for hours on end
This was my absolute favorite Sims expansion in Sims 3 (and probably in the entire franchise). The 3 worlds all the gameplay and skills you could gain. The fact that you could eventually own a second home in another country 😍😍 There was a time where this was the only pack I had for Sims 3 and I still had so much fun and felt like I had new things to do for quite awhile. Honestly the Sims 4 could never. Thanks for the video Kayla, it brought back a lot of fond memories 💓
World Adventures was probably my favorite TS3 pack. For years, it was the only pack I owned. (Money being tight at that point, and TS3 and WA being a gift that I got from a friend, along with a video card so that I could run them.) It was so much fun!
I have never played the sims 3 but this looks so much cooler. I love the open world where you can walk around without loading screens. It seems so much more realistic even though the graphics are better in the sims 4 obviously
what i wouldnt do for another sims 3 series from simsie
I was genuinely obsessed with this pack in the Sims 3 days, even as other expansions became available I would always go back to World Adventures gameplay. I never did manage to fully explore all the tombs, but that was because the game struggled find "quests" to give you after you'd already completed most of them. I remember using the teleportation ability that you could learn from the martial arts skill to "cheat" my way past bits of the tombs, and later using magic from the Supernatural pack to help keep my sims needs up. World Adventures is also responsible for the strangest glitch I've ever experienced in any sims game: when returing from vacation my sim mysteriously became two sims with some of the data (traits, skills, personality, outfits, etc.) about her on one sim and some on the other, with the remainder being randomised. I did report the bizzare bug, and the best they could do was tell me it was probably a corrupted save file and that I should just start a new one. Make backups of anything you don't want to lose, folks, you never know when something might go wrong.
I've been playing this game since The Sims 1 and this pack is still one of my favorite things ever!!!
It was so fun to travel to these countries and explore the places. I was so excited when Jungle Adventure was announced because I thought it would be kind of a similar experience, but I guess I don't have to tell you that it wasn't 🤣
Now I haven't played TS3 in so long and this video really made me miss it!
World Adventures is the best! I LOVE IT! It was like an ENTIRE adventure game within the expansion! With puzzles, secret areas and missions and story! Love it! ^__^ Wish they made packs like this for The Sims 4 but alas it cannot happen. RIP Maxis :(
I also loved how you can befriend the locals in the worlds, and then when you get home you can invite them to visit your home!
It's my favorite pack! I loved adventures and collecting objects from there. It was my "career" many times, to explorie hidden places and earn money on collected objects
The mummies in Egypt were so scary when I was a kid
I absolutely love the sims 3 world adventures and the into the future expansions. The mystery and skill building. One of my sims just maxed out her martial arts skill. It's way more fun than the sims 4
Tiberium board breaking was a great way to make money.
I'd love to see a TS3 Stanley become filthy rich off Tiberium harvesting.
the best way to do the photography skill is to start out with the cell phone camera because taking pictures on the phone doesn't cost anything. On the good camera at a higher skill level, a photo of the pyramids can get near $2000 abd you can hang the pictures you take in your house! There are also photo "collections" that as a collection-completer style gamer I LOVE. Also yes, every time you unveil a staircase you have to give it a minute for the game to get itself together lol
OMG! I remember building a house for my sims in the China world! That was fun because you can buy houses in vacations world!
I would always go to France, pick all the grapes, and then buy a nectar machine. You could find rare bottles in the depths which would count toward the Nectar Cellar life aspiration too. It was also fun to save a copy of the lots & set them up in my neighborhood.
world adeventure, generations, and late night are so ridiculously amazing the sims 4 genuinly could never. also this being the FIRST pack versus the camping pack for sims 4 is INSANE
My favorite part of world adventures is that some tombs you need to visit an other world and go to a tomb to get the key for. There are a couple extras whicha aren’t necessarily tombs as well one in france requiring an axe from china.
Sims 3 world adventures is the best sims pack of all time and i played all 4 sims games
Legitimately still one of the best packs they have made. I would do anything for something as complete and good as world adventures.
Thanks for the memories, Kayla. I used to play this pack a lot too. I would watch you do a full video covering all three vacation worlds in their entirety.
cant describe how better your videos make my mental health ,you always give me a better spirit,joy,strength and positivity thank you for your wholesome work cant wait for tommorow's video! been watching you for almost year and a half!
Loved this pack! I loved being able to own vacation homes in each location. So much to do in each world
This is so nostalgic! This was basically the only thing I ever wanted to play with in Sims3, just exploring these worlds 🥺❤️
I love Sims 4 where u get to wait for ur sim outside the abandoned mine 10/10 gameplay
I love playing mini game on the loading screen. And it gives you points too!! I was learning names of the items just by finding them on loading screens haha
I haven’t played the TS3 since TS4 came out and this is soooo nostalgic. I’m actually blown away at how big the worlds were, I had forgotten how amazing TS3 was!
China was always my favorite in this pack. I really liked the world and ALL my sims learned martial arts. I have no idea why, I don’t do martial arts irl.
This is one of my favorite expansion packs ever and I would love to watch some more livestreams of it!
Dudeeee so nostalgic 🥹🥹 I love this so much thank you, gosh I miss sims 3 so much 😭
This was absolutely my favorite pack for The Sims 3... I started playing 2 so I think of it as the glory days, and I often forget about what The Sims 3 was like altogether, but I remember this expansion being so good.
I used to be so scared of mummies 😭 I literally cried when I was a kid and my sim got cursed by one
ITS ALLWAYS A GREAT TIME WHEN KAYLA POSTS!!!!!!!
I remember playing this when I was a senior in highschool. I would play this instead of socializing and responsibilities.
Please do more of this as a series, it's taking me back!
This was my absolute favorite EP the Sims 3 ever put out. I loved figuring out the traps and the puzzles and stuff. There is a way to break that boulder you saw, but you need a high athletic skill and if I remember correctly, a special tool that you get from one of the tombs. I'd love to see more game play from this pack if you're willing to suffer through the load screens!
That’s so fun hearing you played with the nectar a bunch. I used to spend alllll my time learning martial arts and once I got to a super high skill I’d buy all the stuff to take home with me.
World adventures is probably one of my most favorite packs, from doing the tombs to the buying vacation homes. I love all the sims 3 packs
I love world adventures. It was my christmas gift back in 2009. So many good memories with it. 💕
13 year old me was OBSESSED with this pack, mainly going to Egypt and China. So many amazing memories ❤ Sims 4 could NEVER 😂
Using speed 2,3 or 4 while playing world adventures leads to a lot of freezing up whenever you progress in a tomb, like when your sim steps on a pressure plate that reveals a staircase and loads a new room suddenly. Switching to speed 1 and staying on that whenever your sim isn't walking down long hallways will make the freezing issue less jarring and last shorter than when the game is trying to load a room instantly against speed 3
World Adventures was one of my favorite packs ever! I went to the vacation worlds all the time! My families would own vacation homes in all the worlds, and we'd go spend a week there to work on skills and stuff, since time basically froze! They were so fun and detailed. I was hoping we would get some more vacation worlds in TS4, but all we have is the jungle, the woods, and Star Wars. I would love some more worlds modeled more like these! They don't even have to have all the tombs, I just love to go and visit!
This is the best sims expansion ever made, exploring the different cultures is the best thing ever and there is just so much variety in everything added, now if only I got my sims 3 game to run.
Im so glad you're playing Sims 3 world adventures BC it used to be my absolute favourite Sims expansion ever made, I loved the stories in the adventures, the lore, the MUMMIES that could actually kill your SIM via a curse, the thousands collectibles and finally, the tombs full of mystery that were giving me actual spooks when I was a kid. It was SO great
Best expansion pack ever, finish exploring all of the tombs and it was so much fun specially in shang shimla. This video brings back my childhood memories, thank you lilsimsie ❤
This was the first game i bought when i was 16, had just moved to a different continent, had no friends or means of transportation and slept on the pull-out couch of a dank Quality Inn - Suite with no Wi-Fi. Let's just say i spent a lot of time on World Adventures...
I didn't have any packs for sims 3 other than pets so this is really fun to see! I'm really enjoying watching these
If I recall World Adventures was also the largest EP for the sims 3. It was amazing and I never got tired of it. Especially since if you married someone from those worlds they had special behaviors they would keep such as cheek kissing.
Play sims medieval! Its a separate sims game that launched after the sims 3, not many people know about it, and as a sims fan, i was shocked to find out about sims medieval! You should totally play it! Its so fun
Favorite expansion pack hands down! I could visit places like China, France, and my beloved Egypt and have fun at the same time! I miss that pack and wish that Sims 4 had it. Maybe they will listen since they have done so recently. Fingers crossed!
This is what I miss from a Sims game. You could learn Sim-fu, there were world-specific recipes you could only learn in a specific world, and the collectibles you could bring back to display that you could only find in specific places were awesome! I haven’t even mentioned the tombs and different dress and building styles for each world!! This was the best expansion pack ever
I loved this pack so much. I always went to China first to learn martial arts and teleporting, and to get Pengu's ax. It's the only way to get through those huge boulders in the other worlds.
this video made me dig out my old sims 3 disks! somehow i have everything except the world adventures expansion that inspired my mad dash to find everything :P
This expansion was such a masterpiece, I remember playing for days at the time when I got it, while Sims 4 Expansions lack so much of content
I first got this pack when I was like 10-11 yo and I usually travelled to Egypt. I was so terrified discovering tombs because the music there was terrifying and I knew I could die from mummies. But I still loved it
as someone who grew up as a Sims 3 girlie and only had a FEEEW packs back then, it’s so nice to see lilsimsie playing packs I never had the chance to play with as a kid. this is literally my first time seeing all those worlds and all those features in that pack 🥺 thank you for making my inner child get her curiosities answered thru this video ❤
Oh how nostalgic!! I myself have been thinking of playing the sims 3 again!
It would never be the same, but my wish has always been for them to expand on Jungle Adventure. I think we all all loved world adventure a lot.
I loved it! I loved how you could collect way more stuff.
i remember beeing literally 5 years old and watching my older cousin play ts3 adventures for HOURS FOR DAYS when i was on vacation and was never bored with that I learned how to read when i was 6 just so i could play sims lmao I owe this game so much fr the best memories for life!!!
Oh the portal! That was my favorite thing!! I have been waiting for the time machine for so long in sims 4. Sure we will never get it but I can dream!
this pack will always have a special place in my heart
I would love a lets play of this. I too had a crappy old computer that I played the Sims 3 on and had to really save up to buy the packs and being a family gp person wasnt interested at the time. But I love it now
I love it when simmers go back and play the Sims 3!! It is my favorite Sims game, and I don't get to play it as often as I would like.