Why Mike Tyson would get DESTROYED by Daniel Cormier (Why Boxers lose to MMA debate)
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It's a long running debate that should've already have ended but here's the thread if you're looking for some more entertainment lol
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Maybe in your dreams
Mike just has to connect with 1 body shot and it s all over
@@dogue7338 Maybe lol
Lol these people are crazy
Boo, where's the fun in civility?
Saying Tyson would beat DC in a MMA is just as absurd as saying DC would beat Tyson in a boxing match.
Thanks weasle
A 48 year old Ray Mercer KO'd a 33 year old Tim Sylvia in 9 seconds 😂. Tyson has a way better chance in MMA than DC does in a boxing match.
@@Muhammed_1995 And Kimbo Slice of all people choked Ray Mercer out. What's your point?
@@Muhammed_1995 Randy Couture vs James Toney? 😂
@ slow? U ever seen dc fight?
do people really think cormier would not dump him on his head within 10 seconds?
You have to get to him first… have you not seen iron mikes combos? Lightning fast with one shot KO power WITH gloves on. It’s not just a no brainer
Because he is just standing there to be picked up. Right.
@@AlbowaSinema You better hope Mike Tyson has worked on his take down defence before
Cormier only has 10 seconds before Tyson snacks on his ear.
@@Boxingdiehard You fellas... tsk tsk. Are you aware that when tyson squares up he only has to worry about defending and attack one thing. Hands. Not even your fucking elbows. If Tyson is fighting someone he knows can kick and take him down, he is gonna approach the fight a lot different and try not to get put on his ass. Removes most of his striking ability. If he gets in his most powerful boxing stance he still gets front kicked, double leg to finish or clinch, and at this point the grappling has started and the match is over
There's a reason Tyson Fury does not DARE fight Francis Ngannou in the octagon instead! 😄😄😄
@I Love Memes In mma you can use any fighting style you want however in boxing it’s just restricted to striking there’s a complete difference it makes sense to fight in the octagon 😂
@@Stormertheboy mma boxing and pure boxing are way different, glove size and weight plays a part
The only reason there doing a Boxing match is because the pay structure in Boxing is way better than MMA
Yea because Tyson is 6’9 269 pounds. He doesn’t have the same mobility to do anything but upper body movements… mike Tyson trained for taller fighters so he is quick… it’s kinda obvious
Mma is a sport not a fight
We as humans tend to think too highly of our idols or people we admire. This recently happened with Canelo where people legit were saying he would win against Usyk 😂
It was just plain out dumb ppl who know combat sports knew there was no way that an usyk canelo fight would be competitive 🤣
@@sinatra9179 I mean Joe rogan knows combat sports, he lives it. And even he bought into the Canelo v Usyk hype
@@iannovak5223Joe Rogan is a silly little man
"Rousey would beat Mayweather im Boxing"😂😂😂
What if Cormier was drunk and yelling at Tyson on an airplane from the seat behind? Tyson might win.
🤣🤣I can see that happening
A drunk Cormier would still kill Tyson
LMAFO
Those punches he was throwing on the plane were pretty lame and didn’t do much damage. He couldn’t get any power being scrunched up in his seat.
Drunk DC vs Drunk Jon Jones who wins?
People saying Tyson would have an advantage in eye poking have clearly never seen Cormier's fights.😆
There’s people saying that? 😂
thats the best comment ive found lol
Biting maybe...lol
LMAO
Lmao 🤣🤣
This issue is that most people vastly underestimate how hard it is for an untrained person to defend a takedown by even someone with a couple years of high school wrestling experience, let alone an NCAA all-American and Olympian wrestler like DC. And all someone like DC would need to do is just get a hold of Tyson before it’s game over. People also don’t know how hard it is to punch someone effectively as they’re dragging you to the ground.
For real. Look at some of the grappling experience of the fighters DC has ragdolled before. Dan Henderson, Josh Barnett, Alexander Gustafson (kinda), Anderson Silva, Anthony Johnson. All of these guys have grappling experience at the highest level either in wrestling, BJJ, or MMA in general and DC was either able to pick them up and slam them with ease or just completely wet blanket them. How would Mike Tyson, someone whose never grappled on the mat a day in his life, fair any better than those guys did. Not to mention, DC is an absolute unit in the clinch. If they clinched up, DC would absolutely manhandle Mike Tyson.
Dc is not an elite level wrestler the way tyson is an elite level boxer. Maybe if it was prime angle or snyder or karelin this would make a modicum of sense. Tyson is stronger than cormier and anyone cormier has ever competed against by a significant margin. If you saw prime mike, it wouldnt even be a debate. Cormier was getting destroyed by a part time firefighter while tyson was breaking jaws in his prime. Theyre barely the same species lol. Mike by ko in 8 seconds
@@thehater6189 The level of boxer versus the level of wrestler is completely beside the point. The point is that even a lower level amateur wrestler can easily take down the highest level boxer. But DC was an elite wrestler who competed at the highest level. Also, striking power does not translate to your ability to defend a takedown. Did you even watch this video? I doubt Tyson has the slightest clue how to defend a low single leg takedown lol.
im a big boxing fan and agree with everything you said. only a delusional tyson-stan would argue. tyson punches hard as any heavyweight DC has faced if not more but how much force can you generate while someone has you in a clinch against a wall or on a floor which is where the fight would end up.
@@Leviathan123456 dirty boxing. A lot. Also the implication that dc, who is out of shape and didnt even win a gold medal, would ragdoll tyson is laughable. Hed feel the first hard punch of his life and would be finished. Itd be like woodley who a few years ago was in goat contention and then we saw he isnt really athletic on titan games and then he recieved a career ending knockout by a youtuber. CZcamsrs are koing possible goats and tyson would get ragdolled lol
This was a senseless argument.
Boxing only, DC goes to a early grave.
Anything else, DC.
Gun fight?
What if Tyson brings his tiger? or if DC gets him to the ground but Tyson bites off his ear and is able to get a few punches off?
@@libraryofthemind 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣WTF is going in your head
If it's a street fight, why not hit him in the back of the head when going for the takedown? Idk just a thought
@@Iambored4039
Never bring a takedown to a tiger fight.
The fact that this is even a "discussion" blows my mind
More casual fans of boxing than any type of MMA fan means we end up talking about this BS
@@crlclssic mma fans and boxing fans are delusional
@@berimbolo010 mma fans still way better they have common sense that mma fighter won't win in a boxing 🥊 but boxing fans literally think that boxers can stand 20 sec in a real fight vs mma fighters 🤣🤡
Just saw a guy say “Tyson has size 15 feet it won’t be easy to take him down”
I originally thought it wouldn't be a discussion but look at how many believe DC loses
Mike Tyson even once said that he would already quit if they would stomp his feet.
Edit: I'm glad y'all are seeing this, what's up @TheWeasle 👋
Exactly what i was going to mention 😂
mikes a tough guy, for boxing, but like the foot stomps example, he just isnt willing to deal with the other kinda damage
Usman is a bad match up for Mike Tyson
Yea I think it was something referring to jones or something lol. Jones would violate him and he knew it with oblique kicks alone
Hmm i dont think wrestling is the first move to use in a street fight, everybody will swing first at the very least 🤣🤣
"Bruce Lee can beat Francis Ngannou"
it is just as sad as it is funny that there are real human beings in this world who would believe something like.
I know right. To think Francis would be alive is laughable.
@@melancholymartialarts7095 😮💨
@@melancholymartialarts7095 use your brain
For anyone that thinks Tyson would win. Remember during UFC 1 when that boxer tapped during mount position to Royce Gracie? Just let that sink in
This 👆
Ufc iv the boxer roughed up the former champion, a grappler, enough to knock him out of the tournament. And Mercer ko'd Sylvia in 8 seconds
Street fights involve knives and guns too. I'd tyson has a knife, he would immediately stab cormier as he attempts to wrestle.
Which Boxer was that in UFC 1? What championships did this boxer hold during his boxing career?
We're talking about a street fight, which is vastly different than in a padded cage with rules. On a cemented surface, an impromptu fight is vastly different. On a cemented surface, a wrestler is much less willing to do a full shoot.
Wouldn’t even be close. Only way he could win in street is if he hit him with a hard shot in first 3 seconds but Cormier was also very durable. Easy fight for Cormier 😂
Stipe doesn't hit nearly as hard as Mike tyson and stipe hurt DC with body shots, think what Mike would do. Also, I do think overall DCs chances are much better to beat tyson, but that assumes DC doesn't stand with him and he immediately goes to wrestling. If DC chooses to stand with Mike, he's getting ko'd.
EDIT: lol at all the morons who can't read.
@@OG_johnsmith you’re wrong
@@OG_johnsmith body shots take time to take a toll, Mike won’t last to do the damage and get choked to death or broken limbs
@@OG_johnsmith honestly dc has great leg kicks so he could do that as his first move and immediately have tyson limping. Your implying that dc would try to box with tyson when in reality dcs kicks are actually great. And for another reference dc took a punch from anthony johnson the second hardest hitter in mma history and survived. Id say his chances are about 80 percent to mike 20
@@jonwifebeaterjones6389 show me a compilation of lleg kicks in street fights please
Hey look, Tyson COULD win, the potential for a one shot is always there. But it's just the regular "puncher's chance" you give anyone. DC has proven himself against the greatest fighters in the world, it's a shame that some people (even dumb casuals) don't show DC the respect he deserves
Regular punches? Bra mike is the goat of box for something hes figth iq is genius like the angles on wich he won are insane just look at hes ko from 84 to 86.i mean dc is good but he was never genius level and my ke was 💛💛💙
@@MikePerryLegit czcams.com/video/sccD0Uvz6Rg/video.html
I think it's because of that, they cheer for the underdog that has a very slim chance to win even knowing that Cormier objectively is a more complete fighter
@@dogue7338 angles in boxing and mma are totally different
@@dogue7338 Mike isn't the goat lmao, also cormier is a grappling wizard. His IQ in mma is easily as good as Mike's in boxing. Cormier does the detail analysis for ESPN. In terms of wrestling he is one of the elite minds for it in mma.
We just had rodtang vs DJ too. Yah sure it's different because it's the lightest weight class, but we saw how rodtang had to completely change up and it STILL didn't help him
DC is elite man! He has descent boxing, great kicks and supreme wrestling. By the way, you didn't talk about DC's eye pokes, I think they would be extremely useful in this scenario.😂
10 minutes already and there are plenty of casuals here already defending "boxers beating mma fighters" nonsense, smh 🤦🏻♂️
You dont understand look at mykes videos from 84 to 86 bra u understand plus myke can learn jujitsu he is a figuiting genius
@@dogue7338 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
Mike needs 1 body shot to make DC regret his life decisions
Lol. Not just any boxer. Fight starts on feet and it only takes one from Mike. Both can beat eachother
It’s not an mma fight it’s a hypothetical street fight
" mike tyson can beat daniel cormier" - people thats never been manhandled by a world class wrestler
people really underestimate the ability of a world-class wrestler to close in the distance and take the balance away, to then manhandle and spill you on the ground. Tyson would hit the floor before he can say spinal.
First bjj class taught me exactly how unskilled I was
@@lj2official882 me too. It was a very humbling experience and should be a mandatory right of passage for an 18 yo.
@@panic_diver they really are clueless. Got 2 fights in the 9th grade cafeteria and they think they qualified... The simple fact this question got anything but laughing emojis for a response shows how clueless people are to what a fight really is... Boxing is a punching contest. Daniel is a two division world champion in the most elite organization in the world, in a sport designed to demonstrate actual combat with just enough rules to get civilized society to cosign with it
@Searching for Ufos It doesn't matter if hes full of rage or not, he would be no different than any spaz who just did their 1st grabbling lesson
“Everyone has a plan until they get double legged by an Olympic wrestler.” - Weasle
I hate these grabbing mfs in this world
All Tyson has to do is .... " I can't let you get close" - Mike "Chael" Tyson
Michael tyson
People who saying Mike Tyson’s “bite” would be effective in a street fight vs DC have read too much Baki holy shit
Tyson would flex his demon back, then it's all over bro 😂
Idk what baki is but it’s about being a dog, Tyson has that wild man in him, like the crazy meth heads on pcp on the street that get tasered and feel absolutely nothing, Dc is soft
@@thegoat525 if you wanna talk about having a dog in you, Stipe stuck a finger knuckle deep into DCs eye socket and DC still pushed forward and didn't complain and fought another 3 rounds and now has a lazy eye, thats a dog
@@thegoat525 DC is soft... soft belly? Yes. Hes literally gone to war with the most dangerous mma fighters on the planet, I cant think of anything less soft than that.
@@thegoat525 calling DC soft, the disrespect. Khabib said that when he first met DC he thought he was a burger guy but when he grabbed him for a roll, he was solid as a rock. Calling an Olympian soft, lmao, stop it.
You simply can't beat an elite mma fighter with one skill (boxing, jujitsu, wrestling.. etc) even if you're an elite boxer/wrestler yourself. James Tony vs Randy Couture is a simple example for that. Can't believe there are some people who still think a boxer can do well against an mma fighter in the octagon and even beat him.
This is a street fight scenario. In the cage he has very little chance of beating DC. In the street Mike is a goon he’s crazy it’s a different story
Askren only had wrestling in his arsenal and he was succesful
@@Boxingdiehard Did you not watch the video?
Tell that top Tim Sylvia he was the most decorated heavyweight champ before Stipe but got KOed in 9 seconds by Mercer.
@@lunafreed he has jujitsu and some judo skills too, And knows how to ground and pound. Even though his stand up striking is lame he still strikes enough to set up a takedown after all, Watch his early fights before you make a fool of yourself because you sound like a casuaI who started only watching him once he lost to Masvidal. Smh
"just time an uppercut bro!" "just stand up!" derrick lewis is the only one who does these things but he is an enigma in some respects. these twitter people cant be saying that shit like its so easily executed esp against DC.
You say that, but the irony of Derrick Lewis being choked out by DC looms large here lol
Plus he has a lot of experience with wrestlers because he does mma
You really got my point in arguing with some people. "MMA fighter will lose to Kung Fu practitioner because the Kung Fu guy trains to kick the nuts or eyes/ dirty." Who told you the MMA fighter wouldn't do that also? LOL
I think a lot of people get caught up in nostalgia. People that don’t really watch MMA might not know who DC is while everyone knows who Iron Mike Tyson is. I think it’s also because of how they look people assume Mike would beat him
Yeah and Tyson is the most overrated boxer of all time
@@wdchaconpereira You don't know anything about boxing clearly
Mohammed Ali is the most over rated
@@SolusFather boxing is a dead sport. DC by first round KO
@@KD-vg2yn That has nothing to do with him saying Mike Tyson is overrated.
It’s like the same people who think Jorge Masvidal would beat Colby Covington in a street fight
street fights are different
Bro Masvidal would just flying knee the hell out of Colby
@@lunafreed And then Jorge would wake up from his dream lol
As much as I don’t like Jorge he did beat Colby in a street fight. Street fights favors striking more than an octagon does because there are no gloves and soccer kicks and eye pokes and nutshots are allowed.
@@scottc2076 you can't wrestle that cleanly too because of the ground being not smooth. Back of the head strikes are allowed too since it's a street fight
I can't stand the legions of Tyson fans who complain that he wasn't in his prime when he lost to Lennox Lewis. Tyson lost the fight because Lennox Lewis used a great strategy, and was able to implement that strategy effectively. Not to mention that Tyson is a year younger than Lewis. Most of all, its the lack of respect given to Lennox Lewis that's infuriating.
He wasn't I'm his prime. Even Lewis said it himself on rogan lol.
@@coolundies7030 That's fair enough. It's more than fair to argue he would win, but those who say he would destroy are disrespectful to Lewis and his abilities.
@@lawrenceprice3090 listen, I have Lewis winning that fight 6 out of 10 times against a prime Tyson. But I know what you are saying
I watched that fight live in 2002, Mike Tyson was ABSOLUTELY past his prime. His prime was about 1988-1989. No one can say for sure who'd win in Tyson's prime because it never happened. Almost did in the 90's, life and politics said otherwise.
@@coolundies7030 Lewis wasn’t prime neither
I love the way you make people understand by giving examples/analogies to further explain your point. One of the reasons I appreciated your channel and stayed after the first time years ago.. damn is been years, this crazy
Daniel Cormier bullying opponents search, these guys don't even know what a beast Cormier was not only on the ground but on the feet too
Facts
DC would leave Mike KO'd flat with his toes curled up. I don't know where this notion comes from that he would need to wrestle Tyson or else get beat up on the feet lol. DC is a much better striker than Mike
Didn’t he lose to Jon jones ?
Daddest Man on the Planet 🌍
Jon Jones: Hold my beer DC. 😎
This actually makes me sick how delusional people are. I think it's because we've become accustomed with MMA fighter losing in boxing. But only James Toney coming across to MMA massive respect to him. So casual people think mma fighters are shit.
They are.
@@crimsonking4151 no they are not in a street fight boxers would lose most times
@@darrenjohnson2162 UFC dudes striking is horrible
@@crimsonking4151 well first off *fighters*, but yes some mma fighters hands are obviously not going to be good as boxers that’s clear. But it goes right back to the skill of knowing multiple arts, more skilled means more likely to win. Simple.
@@crimsonking4151 boxing, is horrible for some, a lot of high level ufc guys have great kickboxing / muay Thai (look at adesanya, wonderboy, etc, amazing STRIKING, not amazing BOXING)
People needed this. Thank you
There’s a reason why boxers never try anything outside the ring. Despite it being a little silly, the triad combat which added a bit more elements than just boxing with the exception of Pulev exposed how boxers aren’t comfortable unless under a specific ruleset
Even just bareknuckle boxing showed how uncomfortable boxers are. Artem lobov beat champ Paulie
A retired pillow puncher boxer and a bunch of c level boxers, if even that
@@vaughnordakowski8774 who that fook is Artem? And he beat a well known boxer Lol
Mike used mma in the streets before turning into amateur.
@@ajaxsid9034 casual "mma" Lol
Sad thing is that a really prominent boxer would most likely never join the UFC to fight a top level MMA fighter.
Imagine Kamaru throwing Canelo around lmao.
Kamaru would ragdoll Canelo in an MMA fight, and Canelo fuckin KO’s him in a Boxing match
Why could Canelo come to MMA to get paid 500K instead of 20 million?
@@mrchen1498
also he would lose which is his other reason.
@@mrbigbrain3116 mma guys know they will lose but the money is worth it. If the UFC was offering that money some boxer would come down and try ong
@@drumusic5665
This sounds like you don't like the fact that MMA fighters would beat boxers like nothing, so you're bringing up money as a way to save face.
its easy for me to read people.
Tyson has said it himself that he’d get killed in a mma fight. He knows.
You would have thought everyone did, right? Although, I have had some unfortunate conversations with friends about how army soldiers would beat any MMA fighter in hand to hand combat if there were no rules. This being, because they are just "way more fast and vicious, bro".
Hmm i dont think wrestling is the first move to use in a street fight, everybody will swing first at the very least 🤣🤣
The boxers usually have a lot of respect for MMA but the boxing fans have shown some of the most disgusting disrespect to MMA I have ever seen. These arrogant fools have most likely never grappled or wrestled for them to be mocking one of if not the most instinctual, ancient martial arts. They need to get humbled. Hopefully a boxer actually steps into a cage with an MMA fighter and gets their arm snapped so this nonsense can be settled.
@@RomantikongGinoo lol I see videos almost every day of fights where someone gets slammed and kod off that alone
No he doesn’t dummy. Tyson is a new guy now. His ego isn’t the same as the 20 year old Tyson and he’ll admit that even you will beat him now in his stage of life
This debate basically comes down to popularity vs common sense. Mike is more popular so people want him to win vs the common sense that he won't. There is SO MUCH in DC's arsenal to stop a striker especially a boxing type vs Mike who has nothing to stop DC except hoping for a lucky uppercut.
If you've watched almost all of Daniel's MMA fights, you know how he would easily beat Mike by using eye pokes. He's the greatest eye poker in UFC; even greater than Jon Jones as Daniel's eye pokes were situationally a significant advantage against his opponents.
Daniel was the shortest, least rangy heavyweight ever and he still found a way to eyepoke people
If wants to poke Tyson, he try to be within Tysons reach! Before that eye poke reach, combo lands from Tyson,. Dc will keep his distance, and wait for the moment to shoot!
@@lelov1392 it was a joke casual. Dc destroys Mike with his wrestling and bjj.
Greater than Bones's pokes... nah dog lol
a toddler can eye poke dc
Even Middleweight GSP would beat Mike Tyson in a Street Fight. That double leg is deadly! 😤
On God people forget mike tyson didn't weight cut hes 220 5"10 someone like usman who's a welterweight is nearly that size hahaha.
Oliveira would beat him too lol. I don't understand the notion that in a street fight mma fighters would have to wrestle or lose. All these dudes would absolutley wreck boxers on the feet in a real fight. Kicking, knees, elbows, clinching. This all changes the striking game so much that if you took an actual boxing stance you're gonna eat front kicks all day
Not sure about that. Prime Mike would steam roll him. If they were similar weights, GSP would definitely have the advantage.
@@pumpkineater23 they are similar weights GSP cuts weight remember hes like 190 during his prime. Mike was 220
Welterweight GSP would as well.
James Toney vs. Randy Couture is the prime example if anyone tries to make the argument
There is a boxer that knocked an MMA fighter out with the first punch. But that's all there is, a puncher's chance.
Everyone brings this up, but never Ray Mercer knocking Tim Sylvia dead without much trouble. Not that I think Tyson wins every time, or most, but the idea that DC is guaranteed to win is also dumb. Nothing is guaranteed in fighting, and everything can change in an instant!
@@Neil-qg9cw Tim Sylvia is a big guy that likes to brawl, not very athletic either, isn't exactly known for his wrestling and overall grappling, cormier is a guy that has decent striking but is much more well known for his elite wrestling game, not a very fair comparison if you ask me
@@Neil-qg9cw bruh and mercer got submitted by Kimbo lmao it's not a good argument
Royce's Gracie also beat a bigger boxer with one glove in the first or second UFC. Even a bigger boxer vs a very skilled small guy is in trouble. But, a lucky punch can happen. Nothing is 100%.
I appreciate your logical breakdown on this, even more so because I know for a fact that it will still go above many people’s heads.
Frankly, that’s the approach of the majority. They don’t like using their brain to actually think.
awesome video as always
Massive amounts of cognitive dissonance on the side for Mike Tyson. Literally none of their arguments make any logical sense. MMA isn't street fighting? Neither is boxing! In a fight where there's no rules is Mike Tyson all of a sudden going to be a better Kicker, Grappler, and know how to defend takedowns from an OLYMPIC WRESTLER? It's actually astonishing how this is so divided. This is incredibly obvious.
Mike probably had more street fights than DC did growing up
Because DC is soft and Tyson is a wild man, he got tasered and didnt feel a thing
@@scottc2076 sure but street fights vs people who can't fight, is not the same as street fights vs an MMA fighter
@@aleccoinneachdreyer4216 Nah, man. I guess a random street scrub who can't throw a punch will beat DC because he has more street "fights".
That's the deciding factor apparently.
They're fucking buffoons. Jorge used to say that dumb shit about Kamaru like you have to be a crazy beast raised in the streets too win a fight. Then Jorge got his neck spun 360 degrees by someone he said was too scared to use his hands.
*THIS IS WHY WE NEED AN ELITE HIGH LEVEL HEAVYWEIGHT BOXER TO COME OVER TO MMA AND ACTUALLY ATTEMPT TO FIGHT A STRONG HEAVYWEIGHT WRESTLER LIKE STIPE, BLAYDES OR DC*
They would never, they might die
@@columodonnell9202 well there is rules in MMA so their ego would just die.
Its hard to condition themself against leg kicks, TD, etc,
on the other side i would like to see someone who's primarily a Boxer in the UFC like Poirier, Holloway, Yan, Kattar, to go over to boxing and see how they perform
@@bigboss8647 i know but thats where the hybrid rule set can be implemented no kicks but elbows and grapling allowed just to accomodate the soft legs on most boxers. But honestly i see it going like rodtang vs Dj went and the other way around i feel guys like yan would do good i mean isreal won in boxing before
I think even a top heavyweight boxer would struggle to be competitive with an unranked mma fighter.
Keep up the great content!!
The biting argument is so stupid. Like Cormier cant bite 🤣
It's simple Mike Tyson looks cooler and has the advantage of everybody liking him, not to mention he is more well known, therefore Mike Tyson would win in a fight.
(This is a joke comment that's parodying the idiocy of people who would think Mike would win, don't @ me)
Spitting facts
Funny how everyone loves mike but completely forget the dude went to prison for raping a women
You forgot DC's greatest weapon: the eye poke.
no one’s safe😈
My god dude 🤣🤣🤣
But stipe poked him to reiteemwn
I was trying to say that 🤣
No Dude that’s Jon Jones
In a street fight, Cormier would take one look at Tyson and say, “Nope, we’re going to the ground.” Only way Tyson wins is if he catches Cormier first, otherwise DC every time
Even if Tyson catches him with a punch, DC has a good chance of surviving. He's been hit with bombs and survived. And even when he got finished, it was never a one shot.
Also, I don't think Tyson ever finished anyone with ONE punch.
@@sowa_9543 DC would beat Tyson under MMA rules for sure. But not purely with stand up even with kicks. I disagree with Weasel saying DC would beat Mike Tyson in stand up. Look what 1985 Tyson did with Micheal Johnson he broke his jaw and knocked out his front teeth with one punch.
@@sowa_9543 mike sent Henry Tillman to mars with an overhand/ right hook to the temple, one shot
People dont see MMA as a sport. They see it as 'fighting' and therefore, socially, they greatly overestimate their own ability in it. They also overestimate the abilties of their favorite personalities. I dont see people saying Tyson would win in olympic Judo, but they do say he wins in mma. I dont see people saying LeBron wins in olympic put shot but they say he would be a beast in mma. People see athleticism and ability in an entirely different sport and transfer that to fighting skills. I never see them transferring that to tennis skills, or ice hockey skills. Its something people do exclusively for fighting. MMA should get more respect as a real sport imo.
Yes. Different sports. Only MMA guys want Boxing guys to come into a sport with VASTLY More stuff - a totally different deal. I'd love to see Boxer vs MMA guy with Elbows and Backhands and spinning (arm not kick) blows. This is really a lot but if the boxer is really good - allow the MMA guy to Throw the Boxer and have that count as a knockdown - The Ground Stuff is just different of course an MMA flailing smashing bashing guy will win on the floor the Boxer has zero sense of that he's never been there he's been running and jumping and doin real real deep core strength stuff - just never to throw a Man off of your Belly you know?
The Fun Thing is MMA guys Testing their BOXING - because it's the sport the MMA guys most of em have done it a lot ¡ No? The ability to actually punch - not like Spence or Canelo or Floyd or Ali - to Really Punch not like Shavers or Foreman or Frazier not like them they would be like normal fun to watch contenders in the actual best era of boxing - when film and gloves were invented - 1920-1950 -
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In a MMA fight DC would smoke through Tyson. Anyone saying otherwise hasn't a clue.
Those are the same people to say a large dog would kill a mountain lion or leopard lol
STREET FIGHT.
Great explanation
It's crazy how some boxing fans still cling to this notion that boxers can reliably be expected to one-punch KO professional fighters before they can be taken down or clinched up.
It's surprising that this type of this is still being debated in 2022. Good job @TheWeasle for educating people.
Whoever thinks Tyson would win has never been in a street fight.
Ur delusional and probably u never had fougth...tyson is a killer compare to dc... dc is fat and got no ko power
"I'm am not born from Mountain"
You had me until the last part. You've clearly never been in a street fight either, someone like Tyson rolling 20 man deep with an entourage would never be facing off one on one, it'd be an all out melee. These "street fights" are fantasy, Prime Tyson would lose but stick to reality.
@@supersardonic1179 shut up
Agreed
I love that you made this a video 😂😂
Here come the purist boxers that don’t know how to actually fight say “he’d catch him coming in with an uppercut”😂not only could DC destroy him with wrestling DC would work him on the feet. 4 leg kicks and Tyson’s explosiveness is gone
4 leg kicks to slow him down??? Other boxers, yes, but ur really forgetting that Tyson has issues, hes like a pitbull. Other than that, I do believe cormier has him in a streetfight
@@harrisr1018 being a pit bull doesn't matter conditioning does. There's heaps of pit bulls with messed up heads in street fights many get their legs hacked rather easily. People heavily underestimate a shin kick when they first go up against it
@@harrisr1018 You have never gotten leg kicked, have you?
@@TheJimys7 and you've never had an adrenaline rush in a streetfight have u? You dont feel that shit until later. And also I've been doing kickboxing and muay thai for a few years, I can tell you that streetfight and ring fight are very different
@@harrisr1018 Its obviously different but being calf kicked or leg kicked by a professional athlete if you are not conditioning your legs is always going to hurt.
Bro Daniel can throw punches too so mike won’t know when throw a uppercut and if mike gets close dc can just clinch up and slam him
Wait so there’s actually a debate?
Great take on this. But I'm shocked you didn't mention Art Jimmerson. This debate was settled in 1993.
I've been fascinated with MMA for years and I've had conversations where people said Mike Tyson would lose to Bruce Lee (we know why that's absurd)
Along with conversations like this
Why is that absurd ?
@@DirtySouthJR Mike Tyson had like 70 pounds on Bruce and Mike Tyson was an aggressive straight line counter puncher. He would have absolutely obliterated Bruce.
@@silverbackmma7113 If Bruce got any good kicks off Mike is definitely going to feel it the next day. As long as Bruce Lee uses his superior kicking and grappling, he could give Mike a run for his money.
@@Still-Struggling it would be to much for Bruce the size and power of Mike, he would shatter his face and his ribs in under 2 rounds
@@Still-Struggling Bruce is just an actor
should be why CHAEL SONNEN destroys mike tyson
Not fair, Chael can only have a fair fight with Artem
If they fought a hundred times right now, Cormier would win 99 of them
True
Yeah, imagine if it was Khabib instead of DC, Khabib would win 100/100 times
@@lunafreed God you khasuals are insufferable 🤦♂️
@@lunafreed now U pushing it
@@ryquelwalker6209 not really. Mike has never been kicked in the legs, nor does he know anything about grappling. I bet any top level fighter from 155 up with decent grappling demolishes Mike.
Only reason people wanna say Tyson wins is because there fanboys…
People saying that Tyson would win because he Is "mean" must have forgotten that DC tried to blind Stipe in a sanctioned bout, Imagine what would he'd be willing to do in a street fight 😅😅😅
Yeah and Mike Tyson bit a someone ear off and fought police In a sanctioned bout
@@mermer2811 Except if Tyson tried to do that shit to DC, he’d be slammed to the concrete long before he could
@@CorporalASH and Mike would spark him before he got a hand on him
@@mermer2811 lmao do you seriously think a 55 year old mike Tyson is gonna be able to spark an Olympic Level wrestler? Not even a prime Tyson could do it. If Daniel Cormier decides to pick him up and slam him by his ankle, wtf is mike gonna do? He can’t uppercut him and he’s not gonna know what happened? Why? Because he’s an Olympic wrestler with YEARS of experience. He will do it so swiftly, Tyson wouldn’t know what hit him.
@@CorporalASH kill him with a left hook ?
I'm tired of seeing "Mike in his prime beats everyone in history".
Prime Tyson beat up on old men
Same here. It's just cringe at this point.
Exactly, everyone blowing mike tyson like hes the next coming of christ. Now im not saying Mike Tyson was a bad boxer im saying people inflate his achivements waaay to much.
Also its from twitter what do you expect? Lol
No one says that, but he has a good chance of beating almost anyone.
Daniel Cormier's chin is unreal.
Remember he took a clean swing off the monster Anthony Johnson and a kick off Derrick Lewis.
He ATE those and kept coming back again and again.
Having said that, DC's wrestling is Top 3 in the UFC of all time, he's got cardio and his hands are fast.
DC would submit Mike, TKO Mike or 50-44 him. Whatever DC wants on that day. DC's one of the GOATs.
He would ragdoll Mike. Belly-to-back.
*reads title*
Ray Mercer: hehehe
Solid reasoning here, great video.👍
My prediction; This could only happen in a bar type scenario where both would most likely be quite drunk and wearing tight clothing making lower singles and doubles not likely especially when in an area with lots of people. DC attempts a front head lock, but mike is too fast with the right overhand and knocks DC down. Mike attempts to follow up but is quickly jumped by khabib and 10 other dagestanis. Tyson dies.
Someone call Mojahed for this one.
Khabib by himself could beat Tyson at his natural weight. They aren’t that different in size. Khabib is a Judo and Sambo international master. Tyson would get tossed on his head.
@@gordonschiff3621 He'd slam him like Andrade did Rose.
Gordon Schiff tf?
You had me in the first half, ngl
I can’t believe how ignorant people are.
Thanks again weasel
No problem brother
@TheWeasle Bro I would love to see a conversation between you and Dan Hardy. That would be so enoand educational. Keep up the good work! 💯
I reiterate. The number one activity that people participate in where they are untrained and over estimate their ability is not fighting, it’s thinking.
Cormier beats Tyson in an MMA fight.
Cormier beats Tyson in a street fight.
But NOBODY beats Tyson on a plane!
Touché
Honestly my mind is blown we are still explaining this to this day
Wimp you've never been in a fight
Oh boy, this video gonna hurt some tender feelings
Thanks for the laugh
Cormier has taken extremely hard shots. Mike could rush and throw punches and maybe DC gets rocked but then he grabs Mike and then slams him on concrete and Mike proceeds to stop living. The end.
Tyson in his prime hits more efficiently and much much harder than anyone cormier has ever fought. One tyson punch to cormier puts cormier in the hospital. He doesnt eat any of them lol. The end.
@@thehater6189 when has Mike ever ended a boxing match in a single punch? He hits hard, no doubt, but more heavyweights in either combat sport can likely eat at least a few punches if they're expecting it
@@RL-xo1eu many many times. Most of his KOs are actual KOs, not tkos. Obviously its not the first punch he throws but a single punch either way. He was also fighting monsters and experts like lewis and holyfield. He would land on ngannou in 5 seconds easily. Ngannou has horrible form and drops his hands. He can get away with it when fighting tai tuivasa or some other fat heavyweight but he cant get away with it against someone elite.
again with this "he takes extremely hard shots argument" people said the same thing about woodley and then he got knocked out by some youtuber with padded gloves... mike tyson would absolutely decimate DC with 4 oz gloves. why do you think ngannou is fighting tyson fury with boxing gloves even though fury isnt known to hit hard? Think man, cause fury would decapitate ngannou easily. boxers punch too hard.
@@whiterabbit8243 its a no brainer. “Extremely hard shots” in mma are light touches in boxing. Its a bunch of nonsense. Ngannou hits harder than anyone were told yet he’s got 12 kos in 20 fights against fat ufc guys with part time jobs. Deontay wilder had like 41 kos in 42 fights against world class athletes and were supposed to believe ngannou hits harder and the ufc fighters can take more punishment lol? Prime tyson beats 4 daniel cormiers in 2 minutes flat in any combat where striking is allowed. The question is disrespectful. If tyson punched cormier or jones once flush, itd be the end of their careers
Lol in mma obviously it’s a no brainer dc is a Olympic wrestler in strictly boxing Tyson destroys dc
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It wouldn't be as bad as dc destroy mike in mma. Boxing dc has a better chancd
Lol not "MMA", it's a fight. In a fight DC wins no matter what. Not only because DC is an Olympian, it's because he trains FIGHTING. I'm sure Tyson could KO a lot of wrestlers in a fight. But DC knows how to set up TDs in a fight.
Agreed 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
Obviously
Martial mind said “double leg. Head hits concrete. Funeral noises”. 😂
Thank you Weasle. Sick of the casuals talking like they know fighting.
DC wins unless Tyson pulls out the canine technique and bites DC to pieces...
Lol right Tyson is crazy and we’ll known for knocking guys out in the street. Hell bite your face off ffs. DC great cage fighter but mike is mean a legit killer
Tyson's eyes wont stand a chance against DC's finger tips
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@@bodianbear2411 You're right, I forgot about that!
DC has the eye pokes though, let's not forget that lol.
Great video as always keep up the good work. Weasle ? For you do you think max won the second fight with Volko and who do you think will win the 3rd? Thanks again for your hard work.
5:18 THANK YOU!
Hey weasle can you put subtitles in your next videos?Would appreciate it
Do people not understand that rules don't reduce to skill of an mma fighter, it's not like an mma fighter doesn't know how to throw an illegal strike (watch enough mma you will see a ton of them) but they just aren't allowed to. As soon as dj went to one he threw a knee and head kick to his grounded opponent.
People forget about being able to hit the back of the head too. You take away that one rule in MMA and the entire clinch game/cage wrestling dynamic would change
@@Wyatt_Riley Yeah just look at how hard a couple of elbows to the side of the head to someone who's trying to double leg you can hurt, many people getting TKO'd in that position, now imagine this on every takedowns with 12-6 elbows behind the head.
@@Shallaan that only work is the wrestler doesn’t know how to hide his head
@@kingwan4051 It's especially effective against people who like to grind takedowns, you can only hide your head so much.
Even if the guy gets to my knees and sits me on my ass I'll already have landed many of those and I'm getting right back up either way.
Like 99% of wrestlers don't know how to control your wrist and smother you from that position lol.
@@Shallaan Behind the head shots will favor the wrestler. Not the person defending the takedown. The elbows against a double leg almost never works and you prioritize offense over defending the takedown. 9/10 times that results in you getting taken down. Now when someone is in top position they don't have to worry about careful shot selection and can just unload elbows to the back of your head. Most unskilled grapplers will naturally give their back to when trying to escape the takedown or bottom position. Like he said in the video, less rules favor the more skilled fighter.
This should be a segment called... Weasel Reality Check.
If a person becomes an icon or a well respected fighter, rapper, etc the vast majority of people will hold that person to a high regard because that’s what everyone else thinks and think they can’t be beat.
This is groupthink and an absence of independent thinking. Basically, people are just stupid.
In a street fight you're usually fighting multiple people and in that situation you NEVER want to be on the ground so being good at stand up fighting is way more important than grappling/takedowns in real life situations that aren't 1 on 1
@@EOTUBDB The question originally was “Could Tyson beat DC in a fight” and was open to interpretation. 1v1 DC mauls him. In group action Tyson smacks him around on the feet
True, although I think once you get anywhere near DC’s level with grappling you could probably slam someone on their head without having to stay on the ground.
Tyson wouldn't survive the takedown and begin a lengthy grappling battle... One takedown from DC on concrete and your head is cracking open like a coconut.
@@zoltar6835 I agree tyson get mopped by DC 1 on 1 I just wanted to point that out because I've met a lot of people that think their martial art is so great they can't be touched but being well rounded is important
@@EOTUBDB I Agree there is alot of people that think that 1 Martial art is superior. But being well rounded is the most important aspect of MMA
Why do people think a boxer could 1-shot-KO any opponent in a street fight if they can't even do it in a boxing match? lol there's a much higher chance DC would last a few rounds in the ring with Tyson than Mike being able to defend a TD..
i guess you havent seen many street fights let alone been in any... random kids killing eachother in a street fight with one shot... dc is soft, tyson was a wild savage.. dc wouldnt last in jail..
Mike tyson in his prime was knocking people out in seconds what u talking about
@@unholylemonpledge9730 he didn’t KO them in one second, DC would literally shoot in the first second
@@JRF1004 mike did KO them in seconds. ALOT OF STREET FIGHTS ARE 1 PUNCH KNOCKOUTS TF YOU TALKING ABOUT 🤣
@@unholylemonpledge9730 well 12 of his opponents didn’t get knocked out sooo
well said weasle
Times like this can be absolutely eye opening to how much credit you can give to knowledge of an individual. We would think its a no brainer, but the answers absolutely shock you. I think die hard boxing fans can't let go of the sport that sparked interest, or even changed their lives, or a nostalgia for a time past, but this boxer vs mma "conversation" used to surprise me. But now it doesn't. Think of how many professional boxers fought in a ufc bout, and vice verse, point being James Tony showed them all something they KNOW can happen. As for anything recent you will NEVER see a boxer fight mma for a super fight EVER. Period.
They dont have to fight mma cause they make more money and the mma fighters are the ones begging thanks to beech ass dana white.
It’s definitely an eye opener. I’m shocked by how stupid people can be. I find it difficult to logically choose Tyson over DC, but somehow a majority do. It’s very telling of human nature and it’s illogical approach to a question that is actually, quite fucking simple.
Cormier would win easily but will come out the fight 1 ear less
DC would Three Stooges his eye; an eye for an ear...
What do you think dc would do then? Tyson bites, he’s getting bit too and eyes took while getting ragdolled bro
A bit unrelated but if Khabib had just a few more defenses people wouldn’t even question him as the goat. The guy never even bled from a fight which is unheard of
if he defended 3 more times hes resume would look alot better, and he would have a much better arguement, and i mean MUC MUCH better
If this, if that.
Well no shit. If Khabib had GOAT tier feats he'd be the goat... But he simply doesn't
Are there truly effective weapons training? How do they ascertain that? Is there sparring or bouts?
Very cool your channel thumb is on..
Same thing goes for Canelo vs Usman but boxing fans just can’t accept fact
Even boxers constantly fall into the clinch when they fight. Even as a world class boxer I'd feel like I need to learn some wrestling
It’s much more than sunwrestling. You both failed to realize it’s not just a double or single. It’s an entire fighting style that’s thousands of years old. Even by some miracle if he were to stop a double or single Daniel would just teleport to the back or chain wrestle.
Ends in chaotic arm bar.
I feeling this video and was seriously listening until the bite got brought up lol
This “debate” is actually wild. Ive wrestled for 3 yrs and done BJJ and MMA for 7 years and i can confidently say i could probably take Tyson down. Oh and The Fact that DC is an OLYMPIAN Wrestler…. Hows this a debate, Tyson wouldnt even know how to stuff a shot
Just curious. What's your weight? Gotta a be somewhat matching up to his weight to stand a chance
@@dirge44 not even...