Honda Civic Type R: Full Review
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- čas přidán 18. 02. 2021
- The Honda Civic Type R has finally made its way to America but it does so with polarizing looks and a turbo-four with buzz killing boost lag. Is it just a mess or is there some magic under that overwrought skin? We spent a week with it to find out.
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Hello everyone. Thank you for your comments and consistent suggestions to downshift to speed up. That wasn't Brian's point on the acceleration. Here are his thoughts: Hi all and thanks for your comments. I am Brian, the reviewer. Just to clarify... I have driven many VTEC's, including the 9,000 rpm AP1 S2000 and they are wonderful engines that love to rev. I've also owned and driven many turbocharged cars. So yes, I've experienced and understand turbo lag. Turbo lag, or spool-up, was awful back in the '80s and thankfully technology now enables us to reduce that lag such that it's nearly imperceptible in many applications. I should have been more clear in describing my one and only frustration with the Civic Type R which is, overall, a great car. So, to clarify, the Type R's acceleration is very good. But the driving experience is tarnished, in certain situations, by a delay in throttle response. When you drop the hammer at less than stratospheric rpm, it "feels like" turbo lag in that nothing happens for a couple of seconds. True, this VTEC car is happiest at 6000+ rpm, but with a stout 295 lb-ft on tap at 2500 rpm, I expect to feel some immediate response to throttle applications even below 4000 rpm. In retrospect, the problem might be poor drive-by-wire throttle mapping. Regardless the cause, it's a quirk I've not felt when driving the Focus RS, the Golf R, the TT RS or other recent, similarly powerful, turbocharged cars. Is it attributable to VTEC technology? I don't believe so, because it's a momentary delay in throttle response. Is it a deal breaker? Not at all. This is a great car and worth checking out!
Would you recommend it for a new driver as a first car?
@@mguirodrigues2735 It would be a very nice first car for someone! Consider us a little jealous because none of our first cars were as nice as this one!
perhaps an I-drive throttle controller would cure this problem. i have one on my FN2. amazing difference in throttle response.
Full name of Brian?
That is my dream car its afordable and cool
@@megylealivio1519 Thats good! Learn to drive one! You will never go back to an automatic. Its so fun!
@@megylealivio1519 if you don't know how to drive manual, you basically don't know how to drive then
@@NoSurrender786 says the guy who prob doesnt even know how to rev match
@@lollol-xp4mc get a driving licence then talk 🤣
@@lollol-xp4mc the civic does it for you though, he doesn't need to
I want Honda type R... Hope one day, it's my dream car ❤️
u will if u have a decent job it should only take a month or two to get so goodluck and enjoy
@@Colbyw74 a month or two? 😭 how much salary are you talking about?
I was thinking that it might take like 1 year + 4 months or something
I’m 56, and I always wanted a late ‘80s Civic Si, Gen1. I was a poor college student. That was not a fast car but I wanted it so badly. I’m buying one of these. I miss having a manual and I actually like the looks, and it’s a legit serious sports car, and I can now afford it. Hopefully the limited edition.
And you do know this set the record for the fastest FWD car on the Nurburgring. It’s as fast as a BMW M2 on certain tracks. The handling, on a race track, can keep up with most anything.
Didja get it??
Own my FK8 since July 18.
I still love it.
right color ! das Auto ist grandios , völlig unantastbar .
Currently have had my ‘17 Ralleye Red R-01179 for 2 years. It’s my daily and I enjoy it every time I get in it. It’s also kept its OEM look because it grew on me over the years and I probably won’t change it. Had an 04 S2000 AP2 before the Type R and this car is by far the best I’ve ever owned in my opinion.
Congrats! Enjoy that Red baby in good health! Welcome to the channel!
Watched the video twice!
It was my ride in this beautiful car today... It was amazing !
I really like the futuristic design !
Well done Honda
Thanks for the comments and welcome to the channel!
@@WeAreMotorDriven is it true that FF can clear corners faster than FR ?
I've had 3 turbo cars . And all of them have that slight delay when slamming the gas down. But once you get into modifying them like intake ,exhaust . It cuts down that lag/delay alot . Nice review 👍
Amazing vehicle, I pick mines up Saturday which is tomorrow. I cannot wait.
I got mine almost a month ago it’s great.
@@jonthecowboy nice man I’m excited
Nice! Been waiting on mine ordered in December
Congratulations! Enjoy it in good health!
I was going to pick up mine then stopped at the KIA dealer and picked up a 2020 AWD Stinger GT TT 3.3 for almost 4k less and the car is way faster in ALL situations.It is a great car but needs AWD to compete.
Ill be getting my Type R next year . I honestly cant wait . Great video
Congrats! May you enjoy it in good health! Welcome to the channel!
You are very knowledgeable sir! Great review! Keep at it and i would love to see you do more Honda reviews! :)
Thank you and welcome to the channel!
I bought a 2018 CTR two weeks ago and couldn’t be happier! Traded my 2019 Ram 1500 4x4 for it. Finally own my dream Honda.
Ive a 2018 type-R in ralleye red. Awesome car. Most fun to drive! Daily driver. Plus its holding its value remarkably. Turbo lag def an issue but does not take away from the huge enjoyment of spinning this beauty up!!
Congrats! Enjoy that baby in good health!
Hey l had a Honda civic CVCC back in the early 70's l currently own a 2019 Type R and had to adjust to a front wheel drive car as l've been a BMW owner for years and many were M cars
But l must say this car is a real track weapon l had a few Porsche 944 turbos dedicated track cars and the Type R will make quick work of them and Cayman's for that matter What suprized me the most is the interest l get from the older set as they want to know everything about the car, and yes they love the looks.
Thanks for sharing. I come from Mercedes and Porsche too, and love my R.
3:10 I really love this sound
Crank it up! :)
Great Review. Well put on Pros and Cons.
Thank you!
Honda has that hesitation or delay when your sitting at a constant speed and then you want to accelerate. I had a 16 Honda accord coupe with the v6 paired with the 6spd manual that still suffered from the same fate. It's how they are tuned from the factory. That's why most people like me will purchase the hondata flashpro or ktuner to bypass the factory limits. I purchased a 2021 TypeR and flashed it with the 93 octane tune and the car is very responsive (supposed 353 HP & 367 lb/ft). But it still has some turbo lag that results in much better acceleration without the need to downshift. I have also noticed the vtec works differently in this motor (k20 c,) than the old k20 and k24. The exhaust cam is the only vtec cam just like the k24. On my previous car a 2017 Honda civic SI coupe, I used an HKS SSBOV, INJEN intercooler+piping, prl downpipe, 27won cold air system, acuity short shifter + bushings and a flashpro and turned the car into a good all around performer. It was actually quicker on the bottom end but still lacked the top end of the TypeR. In my opinion honda limits their cars on purpose with the goal of longevity and reliability in mind. Honda produces balanced cars not high performance vehicles.
Yes Toyota/Lexus also prefers longevity and reliability hence bigger engines but less power.
nice review...straight to the point and no bs. I test drove one and put a downpayment on it. Waited 7 months and pandemic struck so i decided to circle back and went for a camry instead. When i am done paying my mortgage in 10 years, i may see what type r has morphed into in the future.
Sounds like a good plan! Thanks for your comments!
This whole video is “this should be bad but it’s great”
Best review of this car period very honest
Thank you!
Nice review. I love my boost blue 2020 type R here in NYC
Thanks and welcome to the channel. Enjoy your car in good health!
Boost Blue is where it's at. Amazing color. Enjoy!
Such a sweet looking car
Beautiful car. I wanna learn to drive manual just to have a chance at possibly buying one later on
Do it! Learn to drive a stick! Waaay more involved with your car that way! Best wishes and welcome to the channel!
I have a turbo charged civic and want a step up but i can't drive manual 😭
"Slow response to accelerate" How can you expect fast acceleration from a turbo engine at low RPM 🤣 LSPI anyone?!?👀
Downshifting solves most problems with acceleration. lol
he's an average driver with average skill, its manual transmission depending on driver skill.
Seriously, lugging the engine. A big no-no.
Lol
Expecting a turbo vtec engine to deliver on the economy cam and without boost, this man's insane!!
This color and blue rims 😩😩😭😭💙
God I love this car. Hoping to upgrade from my 2011 Prius someday :D
It isn’t a V8, learn to drive a turbo by changing down and get the revs up before you make your move. It isn’t surprising as the USA are used to muscle car power
Well said
Exactly! You don’t floor a turbocharged car at low rpms, you gotta drop a gear to disappear 😂
That's exactly what he does at 10:57 still the same result
I literally said bruh… drop a gear😂
USA guy here. Own a Type R. I get now thrills from straight line speed. Going around corners in canyon runs is where its at. Such a fun car. I'll never own a muscle car. I think they're cool . Just not for me.
Down to earth review thanks
Appreciate your comment, thank you!
Main reasonswhy I bought the 2020 type r
1. Trunk space to store my bicycle
2. Good on gas
3. Looks like a Gundam/ tamiya mini 4wd
Congrats on that new Gundam warrior! Enjoy it in good health and keep those revs up! :)
Thanks for the review Billy Bob Thornton
great revieww thank youuu
The Fiesta ST weighs 2700 lbs and has a hybrid turbo. My boost kicks in at 2500 RPM and trims off at around 5000. Good low to mid range boost but not high end. That being said in city or curvy roads I can take off like a Flea with the acceleration. Granted the stock horsepower is 197 but with some mods you can get that number much higher for not that $$$. Upgrading to a bigger hybrid turbo can get you close to 300 HP easy with stock internals and if you drop a big turbo you will see 350+ HP. That being said the cost of a Type R for base price you could buy a FiST and drop all the mods to get better performance than the Type R. Same can be said with the FiST bigger brother the Focus ST/RS. I love my little bunny rabbit. :)
My 97 EK takes off like a rocket in third gear and also fifth gear
Dream car 😌
But gotta learn to drive manual, thankfully my brother offered teaching me in his WRX 😊
Definitely do that! So much more involving than an auto transmission! Best wishes!
Front wheel drive cars have sloppy shifters? How many Honda's have you driven,?? They are know for having some of the best shifters of any car front or rear wheel drive.
His review was pretty good jus his complaints about acceleration is off because ANYONE whose had a VTEC knows that their power doesn't kick in till after 4000rpm that's what's makes VTEC special high reving for more power,can't lie those 4 cylinder vtecs do very well 😉
This is a Turbo charged engine. The VTEC only engages above 6k Rpm for the Exhaust portion. and NOT for intake, like the old honda engines.
Peak Torque is around 2.6k to about 4.8k
Peak Hp is around 5.5-6.4k Rpm.
The 2.0 turbo 4 a far different animal.
@@cesarespinozaspain actually this vtec is different. It engages in the lower rpm range to fill in the gap until the turbo is spooled up. Because it's a turbo motor, honda set it up in reverse where it now kicks in down low. Once the turbo is fully spooled up, there is no need for the vtec. The turbo boost provides far more hp and tq than vtec ever could.
Yeah - this car doesn’t have the traditional Vtec you slobber over. It’s turbo lag.
@@cesarespinozaspain You can definitely feel it kick up a notch at about 5-5.5k RPM. Basically it just means that as long as you're above 2.5k RPM you'll have plenty of power an torque no matter where on the band you are, and it feels linear as opposed to a standard 2 litre turbo
@@EliteGi Agree. Power is very linear with minimal turbo lag throughout. Torque is plentiful at 2.5- 6k then it kinda looses it slowly. 3-4.5k is the sweet spot. And the gearing allows you to be in the meaty part of the band.
Why put music over that exhaust noise when starting the engine? What's the matter with you lot?
it's a turbo charged car - you have to be in 3.5k rpm above in order to eliminate turbo lag.......the thing pulls to 7k. Flooring it at 3k or lower is close to lugging the engine....so confused at the turbo lag comment
This is my dream car🙏🏽❤️
We hope that one day you are able to realize that dream! Best wishes and welcome to the channel!
@@WeAreMotorDriven thanks🙏🏽
Can’t find this car at msrp anywhere 😕
@ 1:08 that’s an Honda integra type r also in the USA we got the 2000 & 2001 Acura integra type r
Love this
my dream car i even have a tomica honda civic type r
Seriously I've been looking around at all the performance cars between 30 and 50K. The type r is very hard to beat for that price. Very hard to beat. Hopefully Nissan will give the type r a run for its money. Or accurate new ILX type S.
Nice colour
After seeing the new 2022 civic designs I’m wondering who let the kid sneak in the design meetings on this one! I’ve owned 2 Si’s a 99 and 2009 and loved them both,.. so looking forward to Honda getting back into a much more attractive mature style.
10:03 Disagree, My 2017 has no issues with acceleration, ( On Dry roads above 35 degrees with all season tires) Yes with wet/ very cold /snow/ there is poor traction especially with stock tires! The Traction control will kick in, unless your car is AWD then you will have that issue. The FK8 is NOT a Drag racing car so don't use it like one, getting the perfect launch is difficult to repeat. This car is not about 0-60 and tenths of seconds going straight, but it IS about lap times in tenths of seconds.
I have had NO issues described in 10:40 even in comfort mode, hit the accelerator the car moves forward quickly, as with all turbo cars there is some minor lag, but I have never had to down shift to pass anyone, on the street and highway. Peak torque is low in the RPM and the sweet spot it between 3-5K the vtec engages at the exhaust portion around 6K rpm.
I can be in 4th gear 35mph on a on ramp following a Prius or SUV who has no concept of merging on a highway. and once I have an opening floor it to about 7k rpm and shift into 6th at around 85+ mph and they are long gone. Now I don't condone speeding but when matching traffic is moving at 75-80 mph 55 mph can be considered dangerous also.
Thanks for your comments and welcome to the channel. Enjoy your car in good health!
just wish they put awd i kno would have made it heavier but to make power better this would be monster with awd . these handle amazing but to have 500hp with fwd
Honda is like ford, great paint, great tranny, great engine, great suspension, great interiors, great ac and heater, etc all great
You forgot the integra type R from the last 90's
If they added in their torque-vectoring SH-AWD, it would have been perfect in my book. As it stands, it is still a superb car, and is certainly on my shopping list. Since I need a hatchback, the Subaru WRX/STI are not in consideration, and thus it is between the Type-R and the Golf R.
While the Civic Type R is unique and pretty fun, we're hard pressed to fault the Golf R in any category other than cost.
@@WeAreMotorDriven Yes, and coincidentally, the new Golf R (should be in the US soon) has an exact duplicate of Honda's torque-vectoring SH-AWD system, with the ability to send all of the torque sent to the rear-end, to the outer wheels, to improve the turn-in.
@@ak4939 Drift mode baby!
You say you wished the type r had the torque vectoring tech, care to explain why ? Just want to check you are not just googling crap and "copy and pasting" what you see.
Thank you for being the first person to do an honest review of this car. The acceleration issue is key and no one is addressing it. I had a 98 Integra Type R which was normally aspirated and acceleration was also an issue. Currently my WRX STI also has a lag before the turbo spools up. The only way to get decent performance off the line with either of them is to rev the engine high and dump the clutch which is abusing the car. I think the other people who reviewed this car are just shills for Honda. Based on my two previous cars I don’t think there’s anything special about the Civic Type R.
None of which were a hatchback, which supplies a lot of needs to people with practical living. Also the lag is there but somehow it still beat V8’s 🤔
@@texaspootan2836 True they’re not hatchbacks. However I have never had a close call trying to pass someone driving my Mustang GT but with the Integra or STI there’s been problems.
As a former WRX/STI owner, I will say that the Type-R engine is heads-and-shoulders above the Subarus......in fact, arguably, the WRX twin-scroll engine is FAR better from a driveability perspective than the STI laggy engine. Also, the Type-R turbo engine is hugely different from the old high-revving NA Integra engines, mainly from a low-end torque standpoint. I really wanted the STI (despite its laggy engine), except that it is sedan-only, and there's a reason that sedans don't sell in this day and age......every single competitor of the STI is a hatch (Type-R, Golf-R, Veloster-N, prior Focus-RS etc) and hopefully they will have one in the upcoming generation.
@@texaspootan2836 I just checked old pictures and the 98 integra type r was a hatchback
@@ak4939 I wish the dealerships would allow people to test drive them. I am sure that you’re being honest but I’m afraid to pay the $7,000 over sticker price that dealers are charging and then being disappointed with another 300 horsepower four cylinder. If it was 400 hp I might take the chance. That dealer markup really is a deal breaker.
This is the car I want to buy and pay for with my own money once I am 18. I currently have a 2018 Nissan Sentra SV and it is a very poor performing car to put it lightly. It gets good gas mileage and it gets me from A to B but I really do enjoy performance type cars and this stuff is very interesting to me! This car seems affordable enough and with enough working and saved up money, I think I could actually pay this car off and own it. This car is extremely cool to me and I love how it looks and driving a more sporty car seems awesome. I just gotta learn to drive manual lmao
You can do it!! And you'll love it! Best wishes and welcome to the channel!
@@WeAreMotorDriven I am going to try, I looked into it and it comes out to about 545 dollars a month for a loan! I think that will be doable if I work a lot more. I really love this car and it seems like a great first sports type car. If I wanna learn manual do you think I could on the new car or should I practice on an older one to get it down? I am really excited I hope I can get the 2022 variant when that comes out
@@gurenplqys It wouldn't hurt to learn manual on a different car. Easier to feel when the clutch releases on a car that is broken in. :) Best wishes!
@@WeAreMotorDriven Thank you. I will try and look into finding someone with an older car that is willing to let me learn stick on it!
Top of the top honda car model
Picking my 2020 CTR up tomorrow in boost blue lets just say i wont sleep tonight
Congrats! Enjoy that bad boy in good health!
its called Honda Engineering!!!
I need to learn how to drive manual because this my dream car
Always my dream car 🥰 i hope oneday i will own it
You will!!
@@WeAreMotorDriven lets gooooo
Thank you sir...you, and many others in their comments, mentioned the WRX. My son is fascinated with them,, but I am wondering about the overall engine reliability of the WRX long term. I thought I read that some owners reported a variety of issues. I don't know first hand, but would appreciate your thoughts on the WRX. Thank you!
Hey! Thanks for the comment! Unfortunately we haven't had the WRX to test as of yet. We should be getting one this summer so we will make sure to share that review with you!
I’m pushing 100k on my 2014 WRX. One thing turbo charged cars don’t like especially my vehicle, is lugging the engine. Lugging the engine will detect feed knocks. It puts a lot of stress on components. (Drop a gear and disappear). Besides that the only main issue with my car was the TOB going bad.
@@MEEKLO333 appreciate it!
You got your pictures wrong. That’s an Integra DC5 type R
Good catch! But even the Acura RSX (DC5) Type R wasn't available in the US. :( That would have been a great car here!
@@WeAreMotorDriven You mean Honda Integra DC5 Type R....
Shout out from Philippines 🇵🇭
Hello and welcome to the channel!
@@WeAreMotorDriven What is the full name of Brian? I wanna follow him in instagram
@@MarcoOcram_ Unfortunately Brian isn't on Insta, not directly anyway. You can follow @autoexoticaofficial and @themedianmag and also @wearemotordriven to catch him in action. :)
I have a feeling that you could minimize the acceleration lag if you have the ECU flashed. Of course you'd need to have it done by someone who knows their stuff but it seems like the lag could be attributed to something that the ECU is limiting. I had a similar issue with my old supersport bike.
This is my dream car I want to buy in near future
You've got this!! Go get 'em!
this looks cooler than championship white
Great review. Just subscribed. The car still looks boy racer.
Thanks for the sub! Appreciate your comments!
So the type r (race spec) looks like a racer? Are you sherlock holmes?
@@lollol-xp4mc yes it does. Trying to hard
I think it’s a Japanese thing. Look at all the four-door sports cars that come from Japan: Mitsubishi Evo, Subaru WRX STi, etc. That’s just the way the market expects them over there so that’s what we get here. At least it doesn’t look bolted on.
Are there any civic type r owners out there who have popped the low profile tires running through potholes? Also have the spark plug ports filled up with water when you left the car out in the rain and if so how did you get the water out?
Bent a factory rim. Tire bead held on and kept air. Was a slight vibration at speed. I bought tire and rim insurance so that was covered. Think the dealer wanted $1k for the rim? Insurance paid. Mine is garaged. Can't answer rain problem. There is a rain gutter under that hood scoop, so I don't know how prevalent that problem really is. Maybe owners are removing the gutter in hopes of making the scoop effective. I believe it's there for cosmetics more than function. There may be so aero you gain from the scoop. Hope that helps
@@jellysworld4743 thanks
@@jellysworld4743 hood scoop directs air to the aero on sides of car I believe
@@reverbandchill3425 maybe. I see that it does look as it vents it towards the side vents below the A pillar. Not sure if that actually assists in engine cooling. Maybe, but from all I've read the engineers/designers were at odds in regards to the scoop. I heard it was an afterthought by design. Engineers may have tried to make it for aero? ie assist in downforce? There is all kinds of theories out there regarding that scoop.
Ok, so when I first saw this video I thought... what turbo lag? Then driving today I found there is a delay but I do not believe it is actual turbo lag, it is actually the factory tune or poor drive-by-wire mapping as you said... I played with 2nd and 3rd gear today and that made no difference, the delay is there... you don't really notice it unless you try to notice it. Will a tune fix it? probably? I don't know if I will actually tune my car to find out. It even happens at 4000rpm if you put your foot to the floor... This was in sport mode though. +R mode has a slightly better throttle response but I did not actually observe the delay behavior. I know the car in +R mode is much more potent.
Thanks for the feedback. Your personal experiences are much appreciated! The good news is, the throttle response delay is certainly not a deal breaker. The Type-R is an impressive car. Enjoy!
I have the regular SGP honda civic with a manual transmission. My neighbor has the type R so he mogs me all the time
You made a good choice. :)
the wheel spin at 1-2gears is very frustrating tbh
This is my dream car❤️inshallah❤️
Anything boosted has to stay in the "Powerband" where the turbo is spinning at speed. Experienced manual guys can basically eliminate that. Say goodbye to "turbo lag". Practice makes perfect.
my dream car
Make your dream come true!
Let's talk price... I 've got a 2016 Civic 1.5T EXT sedan which I love my car but I'm paying 33K for it! 22K plus the 12K financing fee that I didn't even know about until I got home and read it carefully... the dealer rushed us through that paperwork like he was on Cocaine... lol but anyways paying that kind of money I damn near should've went with the Type R? I'm fine with a 2018 or 19 Type R, my cars about half way paid off. I wonder if I should trade in for one?
Bought a 2020 black one in Canada 🇨🇦
What is the best type r ot bmw m sport..?
It's all about personal preference. Check them both out and see what you like better. If it were our choice...BMW. ;)
My dream car honda type r fk8
Honda Civic Type R cutie
I was worried when the history lesson missed out the ep3 and fn2. Reviewer needs to understand how turbo works!
yes, if it got about 4.3 seconds 0-60, it would be an ideal everyday car...
Love that color what is it?
We like it too. It's called Sonic Gray Pearl.
W video
I think U meant - for North America.....not just US
Surprised at the driver's ignorance of how a high hp, low torq, manual operates to acceleration. Down shift while keeping the gas on and let off the clutch. Instant power when you have the skill to do it correctly and efficiently. This driver doesn't even understand this concept. I've learned and driven sticks all my life, so to me, I can have peak power on tap, at any time. I freaking hate automatics, cause you never can get that power on tap, unless you have lots of torq , over hp. Being able to drive a stick properly, becomes a lifestyle. A life style that I very much enjoy. My last stick was a Tiberon with 172hp, fwd hatch. It was nice, but I am now looking for more, for at the moment, I am stuck with a column shift truck. It bugs the crap out of me that I can not shift exactly when I want too, at the exact rpms that I want to accelerate from.
Hey Southern Knight! Thanks for your comment and, more importantly, for your LOVE of manuals. We feel the same way! For more insight into Brian's comments (the reviewer) please see the pinned comment above (1st comment under the video). Thanks so much for tuning in and get away from that truck!! Save the manuals!
Idk if i want a gli autobahn or this so hard to pick
What is price
Base price is $37,895
This and WRX STi my choice
bruh, rsx/integra isnt a ctr.
How much
It starts at $37,895
I've driven manuals all my life. No problem, even in the torqueless-bottom-end S2000. My complaint with the Type-R is not that it accelerates slowly from low RPM. The complaint is that when you hit the throttle, there is a lengthy delay before there is ANY response. Obviously the Type-R wants to rev, and that's great. But the issue is, it feels like a delay in the throttle-by-wire. It is a flaw that other manual, turbo cars do not have, and I've driven many of them.
The delay is called turbo lag dude pretty common knowledge all turbo cars are like that it doesnt have much to do with the drive by wire
Why complaining about "turbo lag" when your not even driving the car properly? Go drive a stock STI, that's what turbo lag really is.
What’s the color of your car? I’m Dane from the Philippines
Sonic Gray Pearl
@@warwid5419 how’s your car ? Is it a durable car? Maintenance?
@@nurse6591 I dont have a Type R. I only have an SI. Its been 6 months so I cant really answer your question but given the fact its an Honda I think it'll be pretty durable.
@@warwid5419 thank U sir, actually we have a cr v and a vtec before common problem the side mirror doesn’t function and the lock doesn’t lock automatically
This guy is crazy. He says it takes forever to accelerate? It’s a TURBO 4.. If took literally 1 second. This isn’t a V6 or V8 with instant power.
We agree, Brian *IS* crazy! Not for the reasons you think. Please see the pinned comment at the top. :) Thanks so much for watching!
When I think of honda my brain goes straight to civics then lawnmowers
HAHAHAHA!
You gotta be a little more aggressive with the Japanese pony bud
Love the car I drive a 2014 Acura TL manual . I love this civic But for the price of these cars the Audi R3 makes more sense.
Si baboy sa davao naay ani bay
Honda civic R how much
Just under $40,000 here in the States.
This man is really complaining about the acceleration in a turbo at 2500 RPMS
No. It's not the acceleration at 2500 rpm. The frustration is the delay from when you hit the throttle until when that acceleration begins. You floor the throttle, the car considers your request, and eventually it decides to accelerate.
@@bgyt1168 Honda's intention is for your to rev above 4k and then hammer the gas. That's where you get the peak performance. I believe the gentlemen above isn't use to driving Honda cars. Especially the older Hondas, where it's about high reving engines.
It's not even the turbo it's the electric throttle.
My type R bogs down every time I try to accelerate hard. Not sure how to get around that issue.
It’s called turbo spool. Upgrade the turbo to a DBB.
@@Justin-lc1xz I believe it's the tires , just can't catch traction . It shakes the whole car , kind of hard to explain.
If it's tires spinning, I don't think that qualifys as "bogging down"? If the factory rubber is cold, my 2019 will spin em in third if I'm hammering it. My winter Michelins hook up better when cold. Hope that helps
Try driving a SAAB 900 or Porsche 930 turbo from the ‘80s. Massive turbo lag, then hold on to the oh shit handle. 😁
Surprising to hear someone who has never driven a VTEC Honda before wonder where the power is under the cam change, and in this case, the boost too. Honda 7000rpm redline = downshifts. Of course Honda would still purposely tune for low rpm economy, as it's their hallmark. But this car is making more torque (295) at 2500rpm than most any other 4cyl, and he's disappointed... OK. This phenomenon is known to Honda as a "linear power curve".
Hi Wayne, and thanks for commenting. I'm Brian, the reviewer. Just to clarify, I have driven various VTEC Hondas over the years, including an AP1 S2000. So, I do understand the need to wind them out. They are wonderful engines, perhaps especially those with natural aspiration. I've also driven many turbo 4-cyl cars. The most satisfying turbo cars I've experienced are those with almost imperceptible turbo lag. The Civic Type R, on the other hand, in certain situations, behaves as though it's burdened with a level of turbo lag that many manufacturers have found ways of eliminating. I get that this VTEC engine is happiest at the far right end of the tachometer. But, the Type-R also makes a stout 295 lb-ft of torque at just 2500 rpm. So, when I drop the hammer at 4000 rpm I expect some response... right now. Instead, literally nothing happens for a couple of seconds. That's either turbo lag, or poor drive-by-wire throttle mapping. Whatever the cause, it can be frustrating. A shame because the Type R is a great car.
@@bgyt1168 Thanks Brian. You have articulated that very well. I'd have to agree with you that would be unexpected for this car. I guess in the vid it came off like the power was insufficient. Happy motoring!