Armoured Foot Combat | Combat Demonstration
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- čas přidán 25. 09. 2017
- Watch the clash of two mighty knights in our armoured combat demonstration.
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Glad to see they're using proper techniques instead of the usual Hollywood style of slashing against plate causing the victim to magically die from surprise and fall over silently.
It's the royal armouries...not a hollywood studio. What do you expect? -_-
I cant recall a film or tv series ever using proper armored sword fighting or even featuring the poleaxe for that matter
People saying historically accurate flight wouldn’t look cool enough but this looks cooler than quite a lot of movie fights.
@kramer999999999 A lot of times the director wants as much movement as possible on-screen
Nice! I loved that Gothic style armour
This channel is so underrated. Any time someone asks about Middle Age arms or armor, I'll recommend they look at this channel!
Kwok Wing-hung this channel is no where close mate
Italian Milanese armour is just too beautiful
This is very correct, with the sword, though a battle axe or mace is far better when going against most armor. Maces are really good for going after a knight in full plate armor. One may not get through that but the knight under the armor is going to be seriously bruised up.
well yes but swords are universally cooler. therefore techniques were needed for a sword-minded sword person to sword an armored person to death...perhaps that's why the ppl back then created the estoc.
by the time of this armor, late 1400s/early 1500s, they would be using the poleaxe rather than the long axe/danish axe/viking axe/english axe/etc
Maces arent actually really good on foot. Pollax and longsword are prob the best weapons for armoured fightinh
Yeah holding the sword in two hands was a very common thing yet i never ever seen that in a movie :D maybe one day
Wonderful!
Best job ever
That is a fine dandy set of gothic armour
Right, the technique is correct, form is correct, but would have prefered a dagger through the gaps after pinning your foe to the ground.
The expansion of the correct way Knights fought in the mid 1400's to the early 1500's has been sweet nectar to my eyes.
Dagger under the armpit. Not just "the gaps".
That was so killer thx have greate day
They shoukd train to do all the techniques at full speed...would be even more impressive and believable
They did when I went
And Bloody fast they are too, I had no idea someone could move that fast in full plate
God the sallet is beautiful
For a time armour was winning the arms race against long range weapons.
Then gun powder came along and equalised the battlefield.
To be honest, there are some armor made specifically to become as hard as possible to be impenetrable to the iron round balls of the muskets. But because of how pricey the pieces of armor were, they stopped paying for it. Not just that, the men wearing these armors are often professionals and they take time to make, and not so easily replaced when lost. I think it's mostly the economics of armor that made it obsolete, with muskets being able to be easily used by anyone: just point and shoot.
ssi1991 armor is still used on the battlefield, it’s just made from different material now
Gunpowder existed as long as plate armour, including handguns starting in the late 14th century. Plate armour was widely used until a few hundred years ago.
@@7dayspking The armor being used after the 17th century was pretty much only the cuirass for some cavalry regements.
@@ThorSuzuki1 'after the 17th century', so the 1700s. Fine but what does that have to do with my comment?
Wish they’d done it properly in Game Of Thrones
They had some great sets of armor and arms (and some really shit) but it felt like nobody was telling them how to wear them correctly or move in them which is unfortunate. Plus the usual "slash stomach, stab through body, win" against plate and mail.
They did it in the early seasons, but thee series lost quality over time.
Ahh this explains the high staff attrition rate!
Its a good reenactment but i think in an avtual warfare or duel theyd just tackle the other one in that distance and draw a dagger to their eye slit
play it on 1.75x speed
its kinda funny seeing two knight in full amror fighting each other with a sword.
tho, it defi looks better than having a mace and a shield
kinda slow, but I totally get it cus it's a demonstration
The video is slowed own for effect - I trained these chaps and believe me, you'll see them go at it quite a bit faster when they're live.
Where did these guys get trained to do this? It looks fantastic
They were trained at the Royal Armouries by the resident fight directors - one of whom is me!
Great techniques. Shame they have to do it so slowly.
Those are the biggest rondels I've ever seen
Whats with holding the swords with one hand on the blade? Striking with the handle ?
It's a technique called Half-Swording or Halbschwert, used to add power to your strikes or create extra leverage when facing an armoured opponent.
More here: czcams.com/video/0L9i7Ne6anU/video.html
It is sport
Hello.
Ma, the Italians and the Germans are at it again
Damn Ironman 4 looks great...
I'd use a warhammer at that point
When doing this are they acting it out? By that I mean are the fights scripted?
Hi Cal. Yes the fights are scripted as they are a performance for people who visit the museum.
*clank *clank *click
When doing this are they just acting?
toss the pommel
you know....always wondered, when you have enough steel to render yourself effectively bladeproof, why hasn't anyone just...go hand to hand fisticuffs and beat the crap out of someone with that gauntlet in an armored fight? the weight of the armor and someone armored sitting on you while said person commences a full mount ground pound would surely knock you out, right?
Punching well made plate armor will mostlikely hurt you more than the other guy, bc the other guy isn't just wearing plate, he's probably wearing a gambison, and maybe some chain as well, so all that plate and padding will take up most of the pain from a punch.
Now you see them using the pommels of their swords in this fight, well that makes a bit more sense bc the pommel is a smaller object so it can get more pressure I'm one spot, probably denting the armor whit the amount of force applied, whilst the hand is a larger object, thus having a wider area of effect but causing it to have less pressure in one spot.
But hits to certain areas can hurt the fighter if you get put into a head lock or a grapple, but it's more of a "I need to wear this guy out or do something or I'm going to die"
But I'm certain hand to hand did happen.
That's why you rarely see unarmed armored combat
@@thetexan1011 that...actually makes sense. huh.
маловаты пушки для таких лат разве только заколотьполучится
Wtf you dont get hurt by getting hit in the belly by a sword pommel or a half swording hit ... you guys have armors, remember ?
The armour is exactly the reason they use the sword pommel or hand-guard... Using the blade of the sword does nothing in terms of slashing and due to how the armour is all sloped makes it nearly impossible to pierce. Therefore the only thing they can do is to use a technique called "Mordhau" (half swording) to effectively turn the sword into a hammer and trust me being hit with a hand-guard or pommel is pretty much the same as being hit with a hammer.
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That's my point, when i get hit in my armor with a hammer (in fact a large heavy club) in the chestplate for exemple, i don't feel pain, and i don't play as of it was knocking me back ... in the head it can be hard to bear, but on the chest, it won't do nothing.
•TheKaisTzar •
That's why we wear padding underneath
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The breastplates are such big pieces that all the force is spread around the padding of the torso. When i'm getting hit very hard on the breastplate, i barely feel anything, i'm just pushed back.
•TheKaisTzar •
In my opinion not really ... tape a 1inch cloth to your chest and put a plank or any piece of wood or steel on it. Then ask a friend to club you in the chest, you will step back a bit but you won't feel pain.
So getting "disoriented" is too much for these kinds of hits.
Maybe that with a mace or a warhammer, hitting the sensitive spots (articulated parts, the visor of the helmet, or the helmet itself) some could disorient the armored guy ... but it's not happening with these weak hits.
It's just to show how they fought in armor, not to prove that the armor is effective.
I directed this fight, and to clear up the discussion, the pommel strike is meant to be aimed upwards and into the groin; it went too high on this particular demo.
Nothing shown in this seems to present any threat to the opponent, at which I ask, what is the point of the sword? It seems to me that if one of them simply had a rondel dagger and advanced headlong on their opponent they'd have faired much better.
Perhaps it is the lack of speed in the demonstration that makes it all seem weak and pointless, but again, nothing there seems like it would phase a man in armour, at all.
You’re not even really using the swords like swords. For all the gripping you do with the blade you may as well just use a mace, or a hammer.
Vospader21 When you don't know shit it's best to shut up.
This is a "half swording"
czcams.com/video/vi757-7XD94/video.html
Vospader21 you have no clue what you’re talking about, look up half swording (or Mordhau if you wanna call it by its proper name), it’s a legitimate way of fighting opponents in armor and the style was invented just for that
Could be better, better to get martial artists for demonstrations the overacting really cheapened the experience and made it look silly rather than a serious and respectful representation of armoured fighting.
Although this is a choreographed sequence and none of the attacks are actually dangerous and that's clear as day, some of the blows are still even more unbelievable.
Examples are like 22 seconds in the two men exchange one after another two out of range weird shoves with the sides of their weapons, one of them with both hands on the handle and the weapon pointing towards the floor.
That exchange 31 seconds in, same weird shoves with the side of the weapon towards the opponent's weapon. That grappling technique 37 seconds in needs to be seen to be believed, looks like something out of an aikido demonstration but with none of the precision or commitment that 'sells' an aikido demonstration.
44 seconds in, the two exchange backhanded flicks with their hands.
53 seconds in. Yes aiming for the gaps fine but at that range, from that position, with the sword held like that there's simply nothing on there and if a gap was found the position is too weak to cause proper harm through the gap. Most of the plates overlap from top to bottom, upwards strikes will find these gaps much easier. Conveniently swords are much easier to hold in one hand with the handle lower than the blade.
I feel like there's probably a lot of martial artists in your immediate area that would jump at the chance to work with royal armouries to create both logical choreography and even to do armoured demos.
All very interesting to hear but still a load of codswallop. If you are not happy then don a suit of armour then try performing all those "martial arts" moves on a muddy battlefield with blood piss and shit under foot.
This is bullshit. They're only pretending to spar. It's like those pre-rehearsed routines in traditional martial arts that have nothing to do with fighting.
It is a display for museum visitors. Our performers do use strikes and manoeuvres from genuine fight books, but you are right, it is not a real fight.