Cold Weather Stove Options. Priming the MSR Whisperlite International.
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- čas přidán 17. 02. 2017
- A discussion of cold weather stove options and how to prime the MSR Whisperlite International white gas stove. Use the stove to melt snow and make conifer tea.
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Wow. Oddly enough I am trying to research this stove and your video showed up. Glad you made all sorts of videos before you passed. It's also Christmas today...thinking of ya dude!
I love my MSR wisperlight international. Purchased it back in the early 90’s later 80’s
Work like a charm. Never fails.
Finally, a review/informative video on a backpacking product not done on a bench or back porch!
Thanks! I appreciate it.
I've had the MSR wisperlite int. for maybe 25 years +. it 's never let Me down . I highly recomend it. any way great video.👍
It's a good stove. Thanks for watching!
Also thought it was a great video. I was just wondering how much can you cook with one whole 22Oz bottle of white gas or regular fuel gas ?
Thank you !
I have an MSR XGK I bought in 1978, I have replaced some o-rings over the years, and just bought a spare pump. It has never let me down. When younger I used to do alot of cross country sking and camping. Now I am older I find it is still a great stove to take with me in my truck when out exploring.
Your videos always bring a smile to my face, you seem eternally happy - subscribed :)
Thanks! I appreciate the comment!
@Martin K totally agree man always love Kevin's videos he will be missed greatly!!(=✌💚
@@Canadian_Craftsman still watching them now mate. Very sad loss indeed 😥
@@martink9785 same here brotha I just bought the msr dragonfly and a Bemco backpackers oven im super excited😁✊🔥 I started my own channel after Mega passed if your interested!!(=✌💚
i love my msr stove I've had mine since 1996 never had any trouble with it . thank for the video
Thanks for watching!
Excellent information! I always carry two stoves, mainly a sterno folding stove, and a Trangia stove in warmer weather.
Hemlock Tea is also one of my favorite. Thank you for the demonstration.
Thank for watching!
Just picked up the MSR Whisperlite Intl then found your channel. I like your style. Subscribed...
Thanks for watching and the sub. It's a real nice stove!
I see these channels on CZcams where the guy has 100K subscribers, you're the real deal and only have 6K, what is wrong with people? Another great video Walker, thanks for sharing. I just picked up a Dragonfly, tried the alcohol and iso butane, but when it gets to be -30 C those stoves will leave you hungry or frustrated.
Thanks brother!
I used the dragon fly in Iceland down to around -35. I used petrol though. Take longer to get the blue flame, but worked fine. The ultra low temperature and low oxygen reviews is exactly why I bought it, for mountaineering across Scandinavia.
Great video. Just bought one of these stoves. Can’t wait to use it. Have subscribed. Cheers
One of the best winter stove. Thanks for watching!
Keep up the good work! This is a great channel!
Thanks for watching!
Good overview, totally agree with you commentary on each stove. White gas is likewise my favourite in cold weather, nothing better then a good ole Coleman lantern and white gas stove burning when its sub-zero!
You are in the video near the end. Well you shadow anyways. LOL!
Great 👍 tips thanks have a great day 🔥🔥
Thanks for watching.
This guy seems so happy. Must be all the magic mushrooms on the trails. 👍
I like the MSR Dragonfly.
I noticed when using my Coleman stove or lantern, if I fill them up too much with white gas I have to pump them during use. I believe this to be that there isn't enough room for air until some of the fuel has been used. Thus, I only fill them half way.
Good overview. Never had a chance to use a stove in snowy winter.
Thanks for watching!
This one is the best !
Thumbs up and Subscribed.
Thanks for great video
Thanks for watching and subscribing!
Video starts at 8:25
Hemlock tea was Socrates' go-to beverage
MSR works great!
love all your videos! I also really like the white gas stoves! I only use 2 stoves my homemade penny can stove and an MSR dragonfly white gas stove! The dragonfly has an additional control valve on the stove itself and is very easy to adjust from a powerful jet flame to a light simmer flame. I only bring the small fuel bottle and for the dragonfly. The stoves are so fuel efficent you don't need much. Never liked the idea of those butane fuel canister stoves for the same reason you expressed. Also if its wet and I want to make a fire I can always open up the white gas bottle and pour a little on. My friends still don't know why I'm so good at making fires ha ha
Always liked looks of the Dragonfly. I also have a few Coleman single and double burner whitegas stoves. Thanks for watching!
For butane canisters, you can float them in a container of water to find how much fuel remains. The liquid level inside will be level with the surface of the water; the empty portion will float above.
That video had a proper start in the first 6 seconds so i kept watching.
LOL! Thanks for watching!!!
good review Captain Walker from 465 worldwide Kansas City Missouri always your friend and I'm back out
I think I hear 22s being shot at the end 😄 nice video man.
Yup. Thanks for watching!
Yep they are good stoves my son has one which means if I want to use it I will lol I like that pot
Thanks for watching.
Thanks for the review and recipe :) I was considering buying a coleman 533 but it seem very difficult in cold weather. I think I will get the msr whisperlight :)
I have a Coleman 533. Gotta get a new stopper for it. Prefer the MSR for packing in though like the 533 as well. Thanks for watching
@@MegaWoodswalker Got my whisperlight intl today . Looking forward to trying it out soon :)
Beat decision you will ever make! That whisperlight will outlive you if you take care of it
white gas is just not easy to find so I end up using petrol most of the time. MSR whisperlight international is brilliant equipment tho, a trucker lended me some of his diesel right out of his truck when I was in a bind and it worked fine, just extremely dirty!
just a terrific video but for Summer a day at the Beach I was thinking of buying several boxes of not dry fuel but BBQ starter cubes and using a couple in my Esbit stove. I know they only last a few minutes but if I have enough for the day I think it may be worth it?
Sounds good and thanks for watching!
white gas in Uk is very hard to. Find and is very expensive the only white base in my rather is primed power fuel
But hi would like to know how well the whiperlite runs on karesene aka paraffin here in Uk as that is easy to hobtain
Curious, what is purpose of the trench dug on the inside of your shelter.? Storage? Surely not latrine. Also notice you're using walls, not a floored tent. Have you found that to be superior to tent camping? Simply because there's so much more room? How is floor in tent so flat, was it all tightly packed by you guys by stomping/rolling on it, or is it naturally that firm when you choose your site? How does that shelter stand up to wind? Thanks for the video, hope to get some answers, I know I'm late to the video here.
This is done for sitting. The snow is stomped down with snow shoes then allowed to set. The shelter is floated on the snow and held there with long pegs. Very good in the wind. You can see the process in this video. czcams.com/video/j4K6gHKTDX4/video.html
When did the international come with those legs? I don't recall it ever looking like that. That looks similar to the regular Whisperlite.
that's the older International. All of the WhisperLites used to have the wire legs. The newer ones have the flat stamped legs which fold out quickly and don't have to be locked into the burner. Sad to say, the Trillium base (for snow) which fit the older models doesn't fit the new ones without modification.
what are some things you have brought into the woods that you would never take again ? equipment food exec
Too many knives. I used to take too many of them. Now often just 2, a necker and pack knife unless there is some overriding reason. I no longer pack a little shovel as there are too many rocks in my area and hardly ever used it. Aluminum cookware. It all got pitted and now only take SS, cast iron or Ti. I don't pack a wool blanket any more. All I ever got was itchy from the darn thing and froze one too many nights. I used to pack candy bars /coco/etc etc for energy but then got really overweight for years and gave myself Type 2 diabetes. Lost most of the weight and for now beat back the high blood sugar but avoid candy and sugar stuff at all costs.
Hi, I am having a problem with this stove. It primes perfectly well, but after a while running on blue flame, it starts to go off and liquid fuel starts to come out instead of gas. The nosel of the stove starts to spit kerosene fuel (that is what I use) instead of vaporizing it. Also, this usually happens when I pump it to the full or pump it more than 8 times. Doesnt happens when I pump lightly.
genuinely interesting
Thanks for watching!
I use the wood burning stoves in winter I found that in extreme cold the plastic parts on the mrs stove did not stand up. I have snapped the pump or smaller parts
Used mine down to -13 F without issue but cant say what happens below that. I also use wood burning stoves. In fact have a bunch of them including the core 4 and Emberlite. Thanks for watching!
Till you get above timberline, no wood
Do you have a lot of experience with the regular whisper light (white gas only)? It was my best friend for a long time, but the last few years I stopped taking it, because I've been having problems with it. It lights, but then just sputters, makes a lot of noise, never generates a proper flame or heat.
You mentioned something about it being a bit of an art on when to turn it up. MSR staff told me they thought it could be old gas, or a bad batch, but I don't think so. The jet is clean, it's the right one for the fuel. The generator was taken apart and cleaned. All for nothing. So I'm wondering now that I've watched you're video, do you think it's possible that I've just gotten lazy about heating it up? Could there be some sort of vapour lock or something happening?
I've left it in favour of my firebox, because I can cook with just little twigs, and for just a couple ounces more, bring along an alcohol stove to use inside it, but when there is actual cooking to do, or as you said, in real cold, the whisper light is a good little stove.
I just can't trust it anymore though.
What do you think?
It actually sounds like a bad pump more than anything. If the pump is malfunctioning either the gas isn't properly pressurized (so you get a burst and nothing else) or the valve isn't letting through fuel properly (causing sputtering and bursts of fuel). For priming I actually suggest using only a little bit of fuel initially and only opening the gas valve again once the flames have almost died down. That gets me a consistent blue flame.
If your old Whisperlight has a flat-topped jet, you do not have the shaker needle. You can send your stove to Cascade Designs in Seattle and have it updated to the domed jet, which can accommodate the shaker needle. Your jet is probably gunked up.
@@5USgRWFH I do not have the shaker jet. That is for sure, but they gave me a pin to clean it out manually. I don’t know what’s going wrong, but I’ve completely disassembled it. Jet, generator, fuel line, and even the plates for the burner and it still goes wrong. They think it’s bad gas (no, not like after eating chilli), but man it must be awful sensitive if that’s the case.
After talking to them, and I can send it in to be turned into a multi fuel, which I think I’ll do one day soon. For now I’m playing with my firebox’s and alcohol stoves, and went so low as to buy a cheap butane stove for quick family trips.
I used to love my whisper light. Used it for years, but after if giving me grief on a couple trips, I went with a stick stove, which is 100% packable. Not sure what you're saying about them not being. My firebox will boil water almost as fast as a stove, and once going will beat it.
One tip for using the whisperlight if you're forced to use it in confined areas is a paste fire starter, or primer. Just spread a dollop on the generator and light it. No flare ups.
I also really like hobo stove and use them more than the MSR. Thanks for watching!
Guy with shovel: "Oh sorry bro, there might be some animal poo in some of that snow. I just happened to notice it, my apologies."
Bring a wind proof butate lighter and heat the generator tube 20 to 30 sec and the stove stove will light wirhout preheating!
I use mineral spirits but you can use gasoline. White gas is best. XGK EX.
BIG problem with that as a winter stove: you'll be boiling water for everyone who brought a cannister. And then they wonder why I'm the last to break down my camp and pack up :(
everybody is in their warm houses and couldn't come out for hot tea, I did.
Thanks for looking!
Have you tried it on kerosene?
No I have not. Thanks for watching.
MegaWoodswalker Can I ask why not? Is it too dirty, too difficult to prime? I'm interested because I'm looking for a stove to use on a cruising dinghy and the consensus is that white gas is too volatile for a boat.
I have a ready supply of white gas and it burns clean. I know some boaters use alcohol stoves or at least that's what I heard. Have you looked into that?
MegaWoodswalker Yeah I know. An Origo stove is a Trangia steroids (Google it and you'll see what I mean) but has all of alcohol's issues regrading heat output. Besides, an Origo is too big for a dinghy. It's either a Trangia or an MSR/Optimus/Primus on kerosene. Kerosene's got a long history as a boat fuel.
MegaWoodswalker sorry I meant a Trangia on steroids
Can you cook some "BACON" with it?
This winter I will! Thanks for watching!
You can cook a bison with it ! It's an beast !
This doesn't look like the International. Just the Whisperlite.
It's the old school original Whisperlite international. Not the V2. Thanks for watching.
@@MegaWoodswalker ohhh I didn't know! I kept looking at MSR's website, that's how they had it listed. BTW, did you ever have to use the Arctic fuel pump for your MSR yet? I noticed they mention about using it for temp under 32 degrees.
I never have used that. This one worked well down to negative 10F. Never tired any colder. Just make sure it pumps good before heading out.