A detailed comparison of the DragonFly stove vs the WhisperLite liquid fuel stove. DragonFly - www.msrgear.com/ca/stoves/liq... WhisperLite - www.msrgear.com/ca/stoves/liq...
Whisper lives really are durable. I bought my first basic Whisper lite in 1991. Many backcountry trips since then. Yes, don't over pump it, the pump will crack. New white gas burns cleaner than old. Just keep it from oxidizing. To greatly reduce soot fill the cup with 90%+ alcohol and heat the generator with that. I use a heat diffuser to make the heat more controllable , it is an electrical box cover called a 4R. Flat, thick 4 inch circle between the pot and the flame. BTW, I had it overhauled by MSR last spring for $35. New longer fuel line, adjusted and cleaned. They swapped my old pump for a new one. Runs like new. Thanks for the well done video.
MSR Dragonfly - god I cannot remember when I bought it, more than 20 years ago and probably nearer to 30years ago (not sure when they started making them!) I have been loving my Trangia and alcohol stoves in recent years for the simplicity- but the Dragonfly has that simmer control for ‘real food cooking’ works anywhere , on the snow above 11.000ft and it is the only stove that I find bombproof reliable to match the Trangia - my Dragonfly works as well today as all those years ago, what an investment! The ONLY (two things - might be overkill for one person - subjective) downside to this stove is the noise. It sounds out around the valley like a jet fighter plane - a consideration for ‘stealth camping’. Last thing I love about this thing is how the fuel (petroleum) in my case lasts making it my cheapest to run and I NEVER worry about running out of fuel, it’s cheap to run and lasts multiple trips. It’s a damn keeper and I do not believe anything over these years compares to it. I have a Soto Windmaster for lightweight day walking / emergency use but this is having issues with less than 2 years use… probably I could have been kinder in use and stowing it when it got wet in inclement weather BUT, those issues have never presented with the Dragonfly/Trangia systems- which is why I consider these to be bombproof keepers!
Its basically a food type decision.. If you are primarily a hydration person, the Whisperlite all day.. If you want to actually cook (need to simmer etc) then the Dragonfly. Owning both, I take whichever meets the meals I am using for that trip. Dragonfly for Fishing/Hunting trips. Whisperlite for backpacking trips where dehydrated food weighs much less.
@@shuswapoutdoors Well I don't just boil water with either of them, there is actual cooking. For the ability to simmer vegetables, fillets, etc I would take the Dragonfly. I have the Internationale Whisperlite, so I am also running petrol in them as it can be sourced anywhere on the planet - unlike fuel canisters...
@@shuswapoutdoors I did.. ..and on a video making a comparison between the Whisperlite and Dragonfly. My opinion on what I think is a simpler decision of primary usage. I feel they are best suited to the scenarios I described (assuming one owns both). I was not comparing them to any other options. Obviously one could use either in almost every situation. Against the the regular Whisperlite I would choose the Dragonfly for its fuel options and heat control. Great video on tanning hides btw!
You can really hear how Whisperlite gets it name. No comparison on the decibel level between these two. I think the noise would be a deal killer for me, but I was very impressed by your heat control and output - like a good canister stove. They both have more control than my kitchen stove at home, to be honest. The later versions of the Whisperlite come with an aluminum windscreen to go around it to reduce or eliminate the wind problem.
In the 5+ years ive used my dragonfly I've only ever used regular pump gas that i get when i fill up the vehicle on the way to the bush. If i get any loss of performance the shaker needle is usually all that's needed. I did take it apart for the first time last year for a deep clean
Best stove I’ve ever had, the dragonfly. I’m amazed at how little maintenance it requires, 7-8 years on it still performs flawlessly. I use kerosene as I find it cost effective, gives a little bit more soot when warming up but I can live with that. Fuel prices have really shot up in the uk and perhaps worldwide but £8 for 4 litres locally available against £8 a litre for white gas/coleman fuel which isn’t available locally for me.
@@shuswapoutdoors I think white gas works out slightly more expensive in the UK. £8/$10 per litre! I was buying kerosene before Covid for £0.33/litre, that’s like $0.42 at today’s exchange rate. During Covid the price went absolutely wild, I think now it’s around 3x that original price. That’s buying in bulk 500 litres plus. Now I only buy small amounts in bottles, just picked up 16 litres for £32/$40. That will last a while in my dragonfly lol. I believe BTU’s are quite close but white gas does boil quicker. Looking at the videos it does look a bit more volatile than kerosene. Diesel has a boil time the same as white gas but I’m told it’s very sooty.
I love my dragonfly, it sounds loud up close but the sound doesn't carry far beyond the average campsite. I did buy an aftermarket cap that does silent burning. But MSR likely has their reasons for not manufacturing their own. I still keep the original cap on hand just in case of any issues but so far so good.
What silencer cap? I actually have the one from Quiet Stove. An don’t like it at all. An I can do multiple multiple rounds of preheating the entire stove with alcohol or the fuel itself an or both. Until it’s smoking hot. Open the valve and have the stove running. Runs fantastic, but 2 minutes in a the nice clean quiet running aspect of the cap. Begins to crap out. Flame slowly starts flickering yellow and going back to a yellow flame vs the quiet blue. Still quiet. But reverts back to yellow. Than gets to the point it needs to be reheated. So it’s like that cap don’t keep the stove hot enough to keep the gas flowing as a vapor. I can start seeing little spurts of liquid fuel coming from the jet after it’s been running a few minutes. Vs after it’s preheated very well. An is only a vapor that comes out. With the regular cap/spreader it comes with. After it’s preheated and a vapor is what’s burning. It don’t begin to cool back down an start spurting liquid again as the Quiet Cap does
@@AquaTech225 that doesn't sound good at all. I can't remember the exact manufacturer, it's a Chinese machining company. There is also a large flathead screw head on top you can turn to adjust airflow. It doesn't snap in securely like the original, it rests on top and can flip over or fall out when brand new. So you need to handle it with pliers until carbon and metal expansion binds it in place. Mine is stuck on now
It's easy to start the whisperlite with a windproof butate lighter. just heat the generator tube for 20-30 seconds and light the stove. And you should always have a wind screen to make any stove efficient
Dragonly or XGK are the stoves I bring with me. Id HIGHLY suggest getting the dragon tamer silencer from berniedawg. If you use the xgk use a simmer plate for cooking it does help. With the silencers they make them 20x quieter, i have a few and that is the one id get again. I dont use these daily but I do go through gallons of fuel. I prefer to cook on titanium or carbon steel. The negative is the pumps are not super durable and you have to baby them to not break.
I’ve been using the Whisper Lite International stove for 30 years now, and though I agree the fuel flow can be a bit fiddly… it’s not a big issue. The Whisper Lite stove can really crank out the heat, and is both simple and rock solid. (no disrespect to the Dragonfly) As a side note… To reduce the carbon at the bottom of the stove, I use a small squirt bottle of isopropyl alcohol to fill the fuel bowl instead of the fuel. The alcohol burns clean, is not a vapor explosive and will leave little to no soot.
I've heard of a few people using alcohol to start the stove, but that's just one more thing to pack. No thanks. It's a great stove, and that's why I was able to sell it for exactly what I paid for it. Thanks for watching
Thanks. I'm drawn to the Dragonfly for its simmer control. Roughly how frequently do you need to pump the bottle to keep it at the same output over longer burns?
You can simmer with a Whisperlite as well with a little trick. When your food/water boils put the pot aside turn the burner off blow out the flame if neccesary, pick the bottle up and release the pressure from the bottle, then give just two or three pump strokes, the generator loop is still hot you can then reignite the burner w/o preheating and it runs with a low simmer flame if you need more power again just pump few more strokes. Pretty simple 😉I have a Whisperlite International for 25 years and prefer to do real cooking instead those crappy dry freeze stuff. I favor the Whisperlite because it's whispelite😚.
@@brokenspine66 Nice tip thanks, hadn't looked into that! And +1 for real cooking :) I'll probably still shell out for a silent burner cap with the Dragonfly to make it quieter - pricier option but I'd say justified for the added convenience if using it a lot.
To stop mine from getting all sooty, I start it with a bit of denatured alcohol. I hate the soot rubbing off and dirtying stuff in my pack. You do need to use about a full cup of alcohol though, double whet you'd normally use because of alcohol's lower energy. (EDIT) Another great way of starting it without soot is those miniature pocket gas torches.
👍👍👍. The MSR Stoves are apparently good. I don't have one, but positive feedback from users supports their reputation. I have something similar .. the 'Optimus 8R Hunter' white gas stove. Bought it back in the late 70's and it's still going strong. The only repairs done during this time was replacing the Graphite Seal on the Burner Control Valve Stuffing Box about 10 years ago and more recently, the Gasket on the Fuel Tank Cap. The Optimus and Dragonfly Burner Mechanisms are similar (what works, works! 😏). Some chirp about the noise that these two comrades make, but I love hearing that 'roar' .. sounds like a WW2 'Doodle Bug Buzz Bomb'. Sooting up during Priming .. this can be reduced by using Alcohol .. I don't bother, as cleaning the Burner after use for me, goes with the territory. It's also when I use the built-in 'Primer Pricker' to clean the Burner Jet .. when the Stove has cooled, in order not to 'fuse' the Needle into a super hot Jet.
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The base of the fuel cup on mine broke away from the swivel. Anyone have any idea how to fix it? I tried soldering it but the solder wouldn’t take…brass on brass?
@@shuswapoutdoors They don’t seem to be very responsive. There’s no phone number. One can only contact them using their online form. It’s been more than two weeks. I’ll keep trying.
The fuel cup on the Whisperlite only needs to be moist, DON'T let fuel pool up inside the fuel cup. Whisperlite is THE first pressurized liquid fuel stove to be manufactured, by anyone back in 1967 & is still the Gold Standard by which all others are measured/compared to.
I squirt a shot or two of alcohol over the wick. Light it and give it about 15 secs to heat the fuel cup, then open the valve. Minimal soot and blackening.
I’ve known folks who didn’t have a wick in the Dragonfly. Mine came with it. Sadly, my cup has separated from the wick assembly and it doesn’t want to accept solder where it separated.
@@shuswapoutdoors Everyone that actually go out camping or cooking in the winter. Because you’re able to pressurize the fuel bottle with its pump as you cook, you can maintain the pressure the stove needs to deliver its powerful output regardless of temperatures. In contrast, canister stoves generate their output from the pressure inside the canister. As temps drop, this pressure decreases and there’s nothing you can do to offset it. Gas stoves also dont need any priming as a white gas stove does and they also use less fuel to heat up water.
@@shuswapoutdoors Are canister stoves only good for heating water? I have made plenty of meals on gas canister stoves but they are next to useless when its cold.
They are useless for cooking on, and I use my canister stove all winter long for boiling water when weight is an issue. Yes it takes longer, but big deal. What's and extra min?
@@andrewvickers4487got one an it don’t work worth a damn. It don’t keep the stove hot enough to keep burning a vapor. Can preheat the stove hot as hell. Starts off a nice quiet blue flame. But after a few minutes it starts to flicker in yellow flame that eventually mostly yellow. You can see off the start only vapor coming out of the jet. After a couple minutes it starts spurting liquid again. Don’t matter if I preheat an it starts out good. An run it low to a medium or run it full blast. After a couple of minutes it cools down to much
Whisper lives really are durable. I bought my first basic Whisper lite in 1991. Many backcountry trips since then. Yes, don't over pump it, the pump will crack. New white gas burns cleaner than old. Just keep it from oxidizing. To greatly reduce soot fill the cup with 90%+ alcohol and heat the generator with that. I use a heat diffuser to make the heat more controllable , it is an electrical box cover called a 4R. Flat, thick 4 inch circle between the pot and the flame. BTW, I had it overhauled by MSR last spring for $35. New longer fuel line, adjusted and cleaned. They swapped my old pump for a new one. Runs like new. Thanks for the well done video.
The WhisperLite is a classic for sure, but the DragonFly is a better stove in all categories.
If u do send it in works a lot better plus having the windscrean hopes
Thanks for product info - I have been using whisper lite for 20 years (one upgrade) it is truly a beast!
MSR makes solid stoves! Best out there by far! Thanks for watching!
MSR Dragonfly - god I cannot remember when I bought it, more than 20 years ago and probably nearer to 30years ago (not sure when they started making them!) I have been loving my Trangia and alcohol stoves in recent years for the simplicity- but the Dragonfly has that simmer control for ‘real food cooking’ works anywhere , on the snow above 11.000ft and it is the only stove that I find bombproof reliable to match the Trangia - my Dragonfly works as well today as all those years ago, what an investment! The ONLY (two things - might be overkill for one person - subjective) downside to this stove is the noise. It sounds out around the valley like a jet fighter plane - a consideration for ‘stealth camping’. Last thing I love about this thing is how the fuel (petroleum) in my case lasts making it my cheapest to run and I NEVER worry about running out of fuel, it’s cheap to run and lasts multiple trips. It’s a damn keeper and I do not believe anything over these years compares to it. I have a Soto Windmaster for lightweight day walking / emergency use but this is having issues with less than 2 years use… probably I could have been kinder in use and stowing it when it got wet in inclement weather BUT, those issues have never presented with the Dragonfly/Trangia systems- which is why I consider these to be bombproof keepers!
Great info, thanks for watching
Its basically a food type decision.. If you are primarily a hydration person, the Whisperlite all day..
If you want to actually cook (need to simmer etc) then the Dragonfly.
Owning both, I take whichever meets the meals I am using for that trip. Dragonfly for Fishing/Hunting trips. Whisperlite for backpacking trips where dehydrated food weighs much less.
Backpacking with the WhisperLite to boil water? Seems odd when a pocket rocket weighs nothing and will do the job better
@@shuswapoutdoors Well I don't just boil water with either of them, there is actual cooking. For the ability to simmer vegetables, fillets, etc I would take the Dragonfly. I have the Internationale Whisperlite, so I am also running petrol in them as it can be sourced anywhere on the planet - unlike fuel canisters...
You said the WhisperLite for backpacking and rehydrated meals....
@@shuswapoutdoors I did.. ..and on a video making a comparison between the Whisperlite and Dragonfly.
My opinion on what I think is a simpler decision of primary usage. I feel they are best suited to the scenarios I described (assuming one owns both). I was not comparing them to any other options. Obviously one could use either in almost every situation.
Against the the regular Whisperlite I would choose the Dragonfly for its fuel options and heat control.
Great video on tanning hides btw!
Thanks
You can really hear how Whisperlite gets it name. No comparison on the decibel level between these two. I think the noise would be a deal killer for me, but I was very impressed by your heat control and output - like a good canister stove. They both have more control than my kitchen stove at home, to be honest. The later versions of the Whisperlite come with an aluminum windscreen to go around it to reduce or eliminate the wind problem.
Both my stoves have the windscreens, but I don't use them unless it's crazy windy. They get in the way of cooking
In the 5+ years ive used my dragonfly I've only ever used regular pump gas that i get when i fill up the vehicle on the way to the bush. If i get any loss of performance the shaker needle is usually all that's needed. I did take it apart for the first time last year for a deep clean
It's a solid stove for sure
Best stove I’ve ever had, the dragonfly.
I’m amazed at how little maintenance it requires, 7-8 years on it still performs flawlessly. I use kerosene as I find it cost effective, gives a little bit more soot when warming up but I can live with that. Fuel prices have really shot up in the uk and perhaps worldwide but £8 for 4 litres locally available against £8 a litre for white gas/coleman fuel which isn’t available locally for me.
It is a great stove. White gas here is $30 for 4L. It's getting crazy expensive. How's the BTU output of kerosene vs white gas?
@@shuswapoutdoors I think white gas works out slightly more expensive in the UK. £8/$10 per litre!
I was buying kerosene before Covid for £0.33/litre, that’s like $0.42 at today’s exchange rate. During Covid the price went absolutely wild, I think now it’s around 3x that original price. That’s buying in bulk 500 litres plus.
Now I only buy small amounts in bottles, just picked up 16 litres for £32/$40. That will last a while in my dragonfly lol.
I believe BTU’s are quite close but white gas does boil quicker. Looking at the videos it does look a bit more volatile than kerosene. Diesel has a boil time the same as white gas but I’m told it’s very sooty.
Why not just use petrol
I love my dragonfly, it sounds loud up close but the sound doesn't carry far beyond the average campsite.
I did buy an aftermarket cap that does silent burning. But MSR likely has their reasons for not manufacturing their own. I still keep the original cap on hand just in case of any issues but so far so good.
It's by far the best stove out there.
What silencer cap? I actually have the one from Quiet Stove. An don’t like it at all. An I can do multiple multiple rounds of preheating the entire stove with alcohol or the fuel itself an or both. Until it’s smoking hot.
Open the valve and have the stove running. Runs fantastic, but 2 minutes in a the nice clean quiet running aspect of the cap. Begins to crap out.
Flame slowly starts flickering yellow and going back to a yellow flame vs the quiet blue. Still quiet. But reverts back to yellow. Than gets to the point it needs to be reheated.
So it’s like that cap don’t keep the stove hot enough to keep the gas flowing as a vapor. I can start seeing little spurts of liquid fuel coming from the jet after it’s been running a few minutes.
Vs after it’s preheated very well. An is only a vapor that comes out.
With the regular cap/spreader it comes with. After it’s preheated and a vapor is what’s burning. It don’t begin to cool back down an start spurting liquid again as the Quiet Cap does
@@AquaTech225 that doesn't sound good at all. I can't remember the exact manufacturer, it's a Chinese machining company.
There is also a large flathead screw head on top you can turn to adjust airflow. It doesn't snap in securely like the original, it rests on top and can flip over or fall out when brand new. So you need to handle it with pliers until carbon and metal expansion binds it in place. Mine is stuck on now
It's easy to start the whisperlite with a windproof butate lighter. just heat the generator tube for 20-30 seconds and light the stove. And you should always have a wind screen to make any stove efficient
I'm not a fan of butane lighters. A Bic lighters last forever, are light weight, and cost nothing.
Dragonly or XGK are the stoves I bring with me. Id HIGHLY suggest getting the dragon tamer silencer from berniedawg. If you use the xgk use a simmer plate for cooking it does help. With the silencers they make them 20x quieter, i have a few and that is the one id get again. I dont use these daily but I do go through gallons of fuel. I prefer to cook on titanium or carbon steel. The negative is the pumps are not super durable and you have to baby them to not break.
Great info!
I’ve been using the Whisper Lite International stove for 30 years now, and though I agree the fuel flow can be a bit fiddly… it’s not a big issue. The Whisper Lite stove can really crank out the heat, and is both simple and rock solid. (no disrespect to the Dragonfly)
As a side note… To reduce the carbon at the bottom of the stove, I use a small squirt bottle of isopropyl alcohol to fill the fuel bowl instead of the fuel. The alcohol burns clean, is not a vapor explosive and will leave little to no soot.
I've heard of a few people using alcohol to start the stove, but that's just one more thing to pack. No thanks. It's a great stove, and that's why I was able to sell it for exactly what I paid for it.
Thanks for watching
@@shuswapoutdoors Small plastic bottle that fits in the stove bag. 👍🏻
Thanks. I'm drawn to the Dragonfly for its simmer control. Roughly how frequently do you need to pump the bottle to keep it at the same output over longer burns?
20 pumps is usually good for 15 mins or so, then just Ned a pump or two after....
@@shuswapoutdoors Thank you - to clarify, I'll need a couple of pumps about every 15 mins thereafter?
Roughly..... all depends on how big your flame is
You can simmer with a Whisperlite as well with a little trick. When your food/water boils put the pot aside turn the burner off blow out the flame if neccesary, pick the bottle up and release the pressure from the bottle, then give just two or three pump strokes, the generator loop is still hot you can then reignite the burner w/o preheating and it runs with a low simmer flame if you need more power again just pump few more strokes. Pretty simple 😉I have a Whisperlite International for 25 years and prefer to do real cooking instead those crappy dry freeze stuff. I favor the Whisperlite because it's whispelite😚.
@@brokenspine66 Nice tip thanks, hadn't looked into that! And +1 for real cooking :) I'll probably still shell out for a silent burner cap with the Dragonfly to make it quieter - pricier option but I'd say justified for the added convenience if using it a lot.
To stop mine from getting all sooty, I start it with a bit of denatured alcohol. I hate the soot rubbing off and dirtying stuff in my pack. You do need to use about a full cup of alcohol though, double whet you'd normally use because of alcohol's lower energy. (EDIT) Another great way of starting it without soot is those miniature pocket gas torches.
That's one way, I guess, but that sounds like a pain.
👍👍👍.
The MSR Stoves are apparently good. I don't have one, but positive feedback from users supports their reputation.
I have something similar .. the 'Optimus 8R Hunter' white gas stove. Bought it back in the late 70's and it's still going strong. The only repairs done during this time was replacing the Graphite Seal on the Burner Control Valve Stuffing Box about 10 years ago and more recently, the Gasket on the Fuel Tank Cap.
The Optimus and Dragonfly Burner Mechanisms are similar (what works, works! 😏). Some chirp about the noise that these two comrades make, but I love hearing that 'roar' .. sounds like a WW2 'Doodle Bug Buzz Bomb'.
Sooting up during Priming .. this can be reduced by using Alcohol .. I don't bother, as cleaning the Burner after use for me, goes with the territory. It's also when I use the built-in 'Primer Pricker' to clean the Burner Jet .. when the Stove has cooled, in order not to 'fuse' the Needle into a super hot Jet.
MSR makes the best stoves by far!
@@shuswapoutdoors Each to their own 😏.
nice review mate🌝🌝
Cheers Tevin.
Good day to you!
I am a grandpa rider on HONDA motorcycle from Japan.
Enjoying camping ,touring and upload video.
Your MSR video is so nice!
Awesome!
Full supported !
Have a nice day my friend!
Thanks so much!
Dragon Fly has a nice simmer. Which can be very good for rice or beans.
Its the best stove going for cooking
The base of the fuel cup on mine broke away from the swivel. Anyone have any idea how to fix it? I tried soldering it but the solder wouldn’t take…brass on brass?
No clue.... contact MSR.they have great service
@@shuswapoutdoors They don’t seem to be very responsive. There’s no phone number. One can only contact them using their online form. It’s been more than two weeks. I’ll keep trying.
@@DragonPilot always ck your junk mail box .
Their reply could be in there
The fuel cup on the Whisperlite only needs to be moist, DON'T let fuel pool up inside the fuel cup. Whisperlite is THE first pressurized liquid fuel stove to be manufactured, by anyone back in 1967 & is still the Gold Standard by which all others are measured/compared to.
More the better! It doesn't get hot enough to vaporize the fiel unless you let it get hot 😜
I squirt a shot or two of alcohol over the wick. Light it and give it about 15 secs to heat the fuel cup, then open the valve. Minimal soot and blackening.
@@DragonPilot I don't havre one of those wicks in the fuel cup. My stove doesn't even have a shaker needle.
There is no wick in the WhisperLite
I’ve known folks who didn’t have a wick in the Dragonfly. Mine came with it. Sadly, my cup has separated from the wick assembly and it doesn’t want to accept solder where it separated.
I'm in the market for a 4 season stove.
The dragonfly is the best out there
@@shuswapoutdoors my brother has one he found at a flee market for 5.00. 😆
If your only going to melt snow and ice get the MSR XGK EX and if you actually want to cook a meal get the Optimus Polaris.
Most people use white gas stoves in the winter, otherwise gas stoves is better when its warm outside.
??? What? Who are these people
@@shuswapoutdoors Everyone that actually go out camping or cooking in the winter. Because you’re able to pressurize the fuel bottle with its pump as you cook, you can maintain the pressure the stove needs to deliver its powerful output regardless of temperatures. In contrast, canister stoves generate their output from the pressure inside the canister. As temps drop, this pressure decreases and there’s nothing you can do to offset it. Gas stoves also dont need any priming as a white gas stove does and they also use less fuel to heat up water.
I'm talking about cooking. A canister stove is only good for heating water. So I don't get your point.
@@shuswapoutdoors Are canister stoves only good for heating water? I have made plenty of meals on gas canister stoves but they are next to useless when its cold.
They are useless for cooking on, and I use my canister stove all winter long for boiling water when weight is an issue. Yes it takes longer, but big deal. What's and extra min?
But DragonFly is loud af
Facts, but it doesn't bother me at all...
Yes it is...every bear within 10 miles will know when dinner is cooking...
Half as loud with a silent damper cap :)
They’ll smell it before they hear it
@@andrewvickers4487got one an it don’t work worth a damn. It don’t keep the stove hot enough to keep burning a vapor.
Can preheat the stove hot as hell. Starts off a nice quiet blue flame. But after a few minutes it starts to flicker in yellow flame that eventually mostly yellow.
You can see off the start only vapor coming out of the jet. After a couple minutes it starts spurting liquid again.
Don’t matter if I preheat an it starts out good. An run it low to a medium or run it full blast. After a couple of minutes it cools down to much