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"this is why other fandoms don't like playing with us" caught me so off guard i was laughing about it for ages. great vid
Gundams range in power from "pisses on the whole verse" to "mom pick me up I'm scared".
they havent heard the firing power and range of Gundam Wing? These titans be it imperator or warlord class are easy pickings from orbit,
@@aenarioncourts9516 Or GP02 (0083: Stardust Memories) with it's fleet killing atomic bazooka.
Mobile suit ≠ Gundam.
Only certain zaku's are actually Gundams even then they're few and far between, zaku's are mobile suits
@@EastlakeRasta7 A Zaku would be right at home on a 40K battlefield even if it can't 1v1 a Warlord Class Titan. It'd be a menace to more traditional armored vehicles.
Titan vs Gundam becomes that mission in armored core where you traverse a giant walker, destroying infrastructure and weaponry
So Gundam vs Big Zam or Grand Zam
It's just getting to it due to high-speeds getting bounced off the void shields being a massive pain
But titans are quite small when compared to Ms
@@soularthjust need to get inside the void shields.
@@BlackEpyon
>just
He says
I see it like this. Gundam are incredibly fast and come packed with deadly and exotic weapons. But if a titan hits you with its weapon, you are dead.
Edit: I can’t keep up with all these comments, Jesus.
The classic dex vs str debate
@@livefromtheblacklibrary Plus, some of the most ridiculous gundams would devastate titans. A princeps would probably find the God Gundam terrifying. Also the exia because of sheer speed. But titans still have unimaginable firepower.
@@ladeandix7451 Aren't those gundams extremely rare?
@@DogseatDogs yeah that’s the point. Only the extremely rare and unique Gundam are able to dominate titans.
@@ladeandix7451 saturation bombardment negs speed, mate.
“You are breathing, Death penalty.” Might be the most 40k thing I’ve ever heard!🧐💯🫡🔥🤣🤣
Hello, Gundam fan here, just wanted to put together my nitpicks.
1st. Baseline choice of the RX-78-2 while iconic, is not a good choice to make general comparisons off of. The reason why the RX-78-2 is canonically surpassed by grunt machines during the One Year War in which it was produced with an example being the GM Sniper II which in universe was made only a few months later. A better baseline for the comparison may have been the RGM-96 Jegan or the RGM-119 Jamesgun. The Jegan being one of the longest serving mass production machines in the Earth Federation's arsenal and the Jamesgun being the machine that replaces it.
2nd. Machineguns in Gundam are almost entirely replaced by beam weapons after the One Year War. So using an MG as the average weapon being used by mobile suits is a little odd.
3rd. Minovsky particles are not only used to create weapons or barriers. They have the side effect of disrupting electronic equipment such as radar and weapon guidance. Electronic warfare being something that the Imperium is not very known to be good at dealing with.
4th. Mobile suits with native flight aren't a rarity or even uncommon. Several mass production flight type transformable mobile suits exist such as the Asshimar and the ReZel.
5th. For mobile suits that don't have native flight, they very commonly ride into battle on craft called "Base Jabbers" that ferry the mobile suit and can be used as a pad to both jump off and onto for aerospace combat. This can be seen with the Karl Gustav's vs the Messers in MSG: Hathaway's Flash.
6th. Void shields wouldn't be a super game changer. Similar and even better shielding exist in Gundam in the form of I-fields previously mentioned in the video, which can be seen tanking multiple high output energy beams from capital ships.
7th. Mobile suits rarely ever sortie alone. In the case of the RX-78-2, it sortied alone because it was the ONLY mobile suit available to the White Base until they reached Federation GHQ.
8th. Funnels/incomms not even mentioned (based).
I overall things were fine on the 40k side but in regards to Gundam, I just believe too much was spent on the original RX-78-2 because of how iconic it is despite it being very quickly overtaken in universe.
Lastly, this one isn't really a nitpick but I do want to point out on the topic of production, the Earth Federation produced almost 1000+ mobile suits during the last 3 or so months of the One Year War. 40k meanwhile even with a forgeworld it could still take about a decade to produce a single titan.
Noticed how he didn't mention any of the faster more powerful gundams
@@mariobadia4553 Even the original RGM-79 was faster than the RX-78-2
Warhammer Fanbase is filled with Salty Toxic Fans. They're the equivalent of "Can he beat Goku though" but instead it's "Can he beat 40K". Someone like Ben 10 can beat all of 40k with an army of clones. 😂
part of the reason that the Imperium isn't known for ECCM is because most of their stuff is either to simple or hardwired so there isn't much to hack or mess with
@@techpriest2854 Simplicity wouldn't help, it would actually make it more susceptible to electronic interference because the equipment isn't designed with countermeasures or failsafe's. Additionally, something being "hard wired" is still very susceptible to electronic interference because things like transient voltages can still impose charges on devices that wouldn't otherwise have a charge during normal operation. Meaning sensory equipment would be giving false readings. IE, things like range and tracking data would be incorrect.
"We know the meme that 40k can beat any setting in a setting vs. setting matchup"
The Me that believes in Kamina that believes in Simon that believes in himself: "JUST WHO THE HELL DO YOU THINK I AM?!!"
Team daigurren would no diff everything in the verse, or at least supplant the imperium as the major human faction.
Spiral power is limitless free energy, it's literally just *WILLING* reality into doing things using fighting spirit, and can break reality, alter probability, and even create wormholes, subverting a need to traverse the warp entirely.
Exterminatus? Team Diagurren won't let that happen, just who the hell do you think they are? The antispiral was basically a c'tan, and they beat them with no losses, catching a couple planet crackers is nothing.
That's less mecha setting and more story with mecha dressing. Nothing concrete by design.
@@jipowap It'd still neg 40k as a verse even if you replaced the mechas with flying jellyfish.
Dude tyranids with spiral power will be hillariouse ( makes anti spiral action justified the moment it hapend)
Turn A: *laughs*
Moonlight Butterfly wins hands down!
Overloads the Voidshields and destroys the titan
Imperial Forces : Gulp
There also is a max production version of turn A
@@stephenemery8831 don't forget that the Moonlight Butterfly covers entire solar systems...
Moonlight Butterfly beats everything.🦋
"Other fandoms don't like playing with us!" -Laughs in Forunners, Xeelee and The Culture.
Forerunners get negged by War in Heaven Necrons. Sorry bud.
The fact that the Xelee get bodied by some hyper denensional birds is hilarious
Forerunners are somewhere between prefall elder and war in heaven necrons. Strong but not invincible.
Actually I’d probably say they’re at prefall Eldar. Which humanity in the Dark Age of Technology was able too handily defeat and force into armistice.
Nah, there's no lore about old eldar empire and dark age of technology clash, there's even some lore that stated old eldar empire as decadent as it is still hold their ground cause they once can just spam automaton army, but the devices getting corrupted now, so no bud old eldar empire didn't bend under assault from dark age of technology human
Unicorn wins, cause he has plot armor
Undefeated East solos 40k. Because he is the SHISHOU.
*He makes unmentionable feats with particularly zero explanation.
@@zeppelincraft1443 it totally made sense. Didnt you see he had a perfectly trimmed braid and an asian attire? Xd
@@yopoxikeweapescai9066
A explosion happened in the background with zero flammables on his person after the sensei made a striking pose and shouted "BAKUHATSU" (Detonate) in a commanding tone.
Why? Dude its been 30 years since the episodes aired and nobody has figured it out yet /s
@@zeppelincraft1443 peak writing (build fighters try was better)
I read unicorn as unicron for a split second and it was funny.
Char vs Farsight in a 1v1
I'd kill to see that happen
Im waiting for Farsight to once again save mainline Tau and say 'I came to Laugh at you'.
As a power scaling person(tm). I'll either flip out at you not covering the wacky shit or flip out because you actually covered it.
But what turn A!!!! What about the dumb thing the unicorn gundam did!!!! Newtypes!!!!
Gundams essentially range from mass infantry like the gms and zakus all the way to the insanity that is the turn A gundam which could probably take on every titan in existence all at once
I know next to nothing about Gundam, so why is turn A Gundam so strong?
@@spacecowboy5486 It has a weapon that that the range to effectively covere the space form earth to mars that spread a clooud of nano machines that reduces all technology to sand
I'm going say this unicorn series of gundam can easily beat all type of titan. The reason is newtype abilities can manifest within the gundams able to use time abilities and other universes manipulation.
Mass-produced mobile suits aren't gundams, they're mobile suits. I'd say most capital G Gundams could wash at least one Titan at a time, and stuff like Unicorn or any of its derivatives/clones/rebuilds, Freedom, Strike Freedom, Justice, Destiny, Turn-A, Turn X, Nu, Hi-Nu, ZZ, Shining, Master, God/Burning could destroy several in one fight. That's not even counting all the Titan-sized mobile weapons and ships, Archangel would probably wipe a fleet of any faction's ships. They're just entirely different universes.
@@spacecowboy5486 I'll give you a better one watch the channel Kakarot 197 he basically give the stats of the Mobile suits from the wiki
The problem with this video is the Bias on 40k he only mentioned RX-78 but failed to mentioned the Era because each Gundam series has an Era for it's canon for example
RX-78 Gundam is from UC(Universal Century 079) commonly known as the One Year War but he failed to mentioned that series has multiple entries of the same Universe
One Year War UC 0079
Gryphs Conflict UC 0088
Char's Rebellion UC 0093
After Char's Rebellion UC096
You get the idea and no their are multiple Gundam series entirety just on Universal Century not to mention the spinoffs and other popular Gundam universe with different entire lore like Gundam Wing , Seed ,OO , Iron Blood Orphans different timeline different universe
And the Channel specifically chose the oldest entry of the Earth Federation when they were on just transitioned from Fleet base military and currently implemented the Mobile Suits seriously total Bias
Bro is using the song from lorecrimes, peak cinema
I COMPLETELY FORGOT I WAS LOL
@@livefromtheblacklibrary can i ask you a question why did use Rx-78-2 even though it was pretty outclassed very quickly by other mobile suits. By the end of the one year war it is very outdated. The reason it lasted so long was because of the pilot skill was so good it didn't matter how outdated it was.
@@livefromtheblacklibraryalso please do more research on the topic your doing before making the video.
@@livefromtheblacklibrary you should talk to kakarot197 about this because he is Gundam youtuber and he gets into detail about each ms in his videos.
@@edend5326 @livefromtheblacklibrary yep, man knows his stuff! Make it a live stream, I think it'll be very educational!
The main problem is gauging the strength of void shields, from the lore a warlord can be taken out by a single salvo of a hellstorm cannon which is 5 volcano cannons glued together, each volcano cannon has an output of 4 terawatts for example, but it can also be taken out by Tau railguns and mass concentrated fire by smaller caliber. So i guess the answer is if it looks big and cool enough it can kill a titan.......Unless the plot demands otherwise!
Also the fact these warmachines have gone from battle to battle for the last 10k+ years.
The fact they are so insanely robust and reliable is an important factor imo.
Also if the machine spirit takes control these titans can move very quickly. Pretty fun to think about.
If I recall, titan void shields extend a good distance away from the titan itself, so you can bypass the void shields by going inside the shield, like how bubble shields work in halo
@@sev1120 yes, titan legions use this to protect each other by overlapping void shields.
@@sev1120 prob be the the plan for a Gundam pilot get inside the shield and behind it using it speed and to avoid the fixed weapons firing arcs now could it do that idk
@@alkhemia23 The bigger the Titan, the less it can do in melee.
Most Gundams excel in melee and Titans don't have a counter for 40 foot long plasma swords.
Next vid should be 40K vs. The power of friendship.
Friendship is magic and magic is heresy.
God Gundam vs God Emperor would be pretty cool.
Watch Hello Kitty x Gundam, Kitty transformed a Gelgoog along with the pilot into chibi and fusing them together into one.
@@W33bJaeger Friendship is magic is basically the orks, think about it how more of them there are the more bullshit they get away with.
@@W33bJaeger this might actually be the one. Anti-hax vs. Hax 😂
Now we need a death battle style animated sequence where a rx-78 fights a titan. That would easily rival the Gundam VS Optimus Prime fight.
A few things you forgot:
- Gundams are usually designed for space combat, the RX 78-2 especially.
- A void shield is useless once you’re inside it. That’s why titans need ground forces.
- beam sabers are pretty good at cutting metal. A somewhat seasoned pilot will most likely disable the titan by using the MS superior mobility to cut through cables and exposed pistons on the legs and arms
Edit because I forgot: Minovsky particles also mess with and/or disable radar
Good luck putting a Gundam in the void shield though.
@@robertjenkins6607 why? They can move slow. AFAIK tanks can pass through void shields too, not that big of an issue imo
@@user-ev2je4mf4p This is actually true and false. You can pass through a void shield only if it isn't at full power, which is what it is at for minimum protection when not in combat. At full power, Void shields, even ones deployed for infantry, are impregnable by everything.
A zaku isn't a Gundam though, it's just a mobile suit. Gundam is only given to certain mobile suits.
Yeah, comparing a typical mass-produced Zaku II to even something as low-power as RX-78 is like comparing a typical infantryman to a career special forces gorilla with bulletproof skin
Did you even watch the video?
@@lordilluminati5836 No, they didn't.
@@DogseatDogsRegardless, the video did get one major thing wrong: the strength of the Beam Rifle. He scaled it lower than the Hyper Bazooka which is hilariously wrong. The Beam Rifle would, at worst, two shot most titans. That's also not accounting for the fact the Minovsky particle contamination caused by mobile suits just existing would disable the titan's targeting systems. The titan is not hitting the mobile suit, might not even be able to see it on its sensors, and would get one or two shot.
Remember people from the gundam universe can innovate.
That's how I'd see the match-up play. RX-78 kamikaze's the Titan, accidentally nuking its defensive settlement. Team Gundam finds some battle footage and starts producing Heavy Arms to counter.
@@aymann7234 Heavy Arms? The void shields?
@@Humster Volume of fire. Enough dakka, and the void engines crash. There is never truly enough dakka, but Heavy comes close.
Cawl and friends say Hi!
@@DogseatDogsit took him 10000 years to innovate they don't got enough time for that
Unicorn perfect form literally evolves the pilot into the end of human evolution. Even an imperfect form traveled to the heat death of the universe to prove a point in a conversation.
The unicorn isnt just for fighting. Its a skip button to the end of humanity.
The emperor of mankind would laugh, talk about how he's already done that 3 times over, then kill the dude with his sword. BTW the emperor was a very powerful person with an extremely powerfully psychic (magical) soul created by 1000 ancient shamans killing themselves and their powers combining. He was born in the stone age tjousamds of years ago and lived until around the year 30/31 thousand before being mortally wounded and put on life support. In those 50, 60 thousand years he trained to become the most powerful single being in the universe and at one point almost reached apotheosis into becoming the 5th God of the universe. His form could change size to take on what appearance would work best for the individual viewing him, and those he trusted saw that his speech was an illusion. He could telepathically speak to any being in the universe and communicate in core concepts that people would interpret on their own. For example, one of his demigod sons figured this out because he came to their forgotten world and spoke in an obscure rual accent perfectly, the one his son spoke. His sword permakills demons instead of banishing back to hell them like every other weapon in the setting. In the year 30k he was mortally wounded by one of his son souped on power from the 4 gods of the universe and almost killed him. Now he's stuck on a life support machine chair, which actually is a more powerful form. His physical stats are shit but his already ***literal*** God teir magic gets boosted more by this device (its called the Golden Throne and was meant to be a magical amplifer). He can now create his own good guy demons and directly interfere with war zones on the opposite side of the galaxy in what can only be described as divine intervention, for example posessioning one of his demigod sons (Robute Gullieman) before death during a fight with one of his evil demigod brothers, Mortirion (also son of the emperor) who fell to the God nurgle. Nurgle is the God of disease and pluage and gave Mortiarian an incurable pleauge able to kill the almost unkillable demigods. Mortarion infected Gullieman and as he was about to die, The emperor possessed Gullieman's body, purged the disease, banished all of nurgles demons near by with his presceneses, and shit talked mortarian about how much of a naughty son he is. Oh last but not least, if he dies he's a perpetual. Meaning he'll just reform in a few years. And with the way worship empowers a being in warhammer and the entire human race worships him, even off the throne reformed if he dies he'd probably have God teir powers. Overall he's stronger for the empire as the corpse God on the throne, but in a 1v1 if he dies he'll come back and be able to fuck you up with God teir swordsmanship
The emperor literally had a plan to guide humanity into a different dimension to save it from chaos. He straight up single handedly forged humanities future
@@armybeast1823 as a 40k fan. no. he'd get annihliated by the bullshit space magic. unicorn is fucking wild.
A bit hard for him to do that as a decicated corpse, we are talking about war here, @@armybeast1823
There's a Huge variation within the Gundam Franchise, with each major series having it's Own main Gundam along with the Idea that the non-main timeline shows can not be directly compared.
Looking at some of newer Gundams, they could definitely bring much more to bear, something like the Unicorn Gundam's Beam Magnum can be a glancing hit and still result in that mobile suit being destroyed (much like how Titan sized lasguns require infantry to move well out of the way or be incinerated) or how by the end of the show, the Unicorn is part of a trio that stops a Colony Laser, something firing a laser in the hundreds of meters in diameter.
Or something as World Ending as the Turn A Gundam, this Single Gundam being responsible for the regression of Humanity from being able to construct it, back to Steam engines.
If your going to 'research' Gundam, look into Iron Blooded Orphans.
Because you will find some allegorical similarities (eventually) to the grimdark future Warhammer 40K.
Uhh... or like every Gundam show...
The senselessness of unending, unstoppable war is the central theme of the entire series.
There's *always* another war.
IBO vs Warhammer is a wash bro. The Ahab reactor emits EMP waves just as a byproduct and that's their main power source. Everything in IBO uses it. A graze would just show up and disable pretty much 90% of all mechanical systems leaving only manual weaponry viable.
Yeah but not only is ibo bad it's the weakest universe
@@Zerato both IBO and the Tau use rail guns and they're effective against titans. Meaning it is possible for an emperor class titan to be taken down by a platoon of MS with dainsleif weapons launching nails almost as big as the mech shooting them. Gundam Flauros also has rail guns mounted on its back.
@@Zerato they're also technically not the weakest universe as long as gunpla build fighters exist lol. Yes I count it as a Gundam universe and no amount of arguing will change my mind.
the standard Zaku machineguns are stated to be 120mm, with earlier models using 90mm or 100mm shells.
when the Federation mass produced their own Mobile Suits the initial armament was a 90mm machinegun before the rollout of the Beam Spray gun, which remained as the mainstay for nearly a decade before upgrades made the standard beam rifle on par with the original rifle, while anything classed as a gundam started fielding "mega particle cannons" which is near parody with the 40k equivalent of the Volkite anti-matter energy weapons.
God Gundam, Devil Gundam, the Wing Zero, and the Turn-A/ Turn-X would like a word...
You forgot the Exia, OO, and OO Qan [T], these 3 are so broken with and without trans-am
@@arlequim235I don't know about Exia in this case, but definitely the latter 2.
@@cjv-x10a4 I mentioned Exia because of the clear advantage in manouveravility and the unlimited beam rifle ammo that the 00 suits have
There is also the unicorn Gundam
Mikazuki would have the time of his life....
I love how Gundams have all these fancy techniques and planning in their combat and then a Titan just has a big gun. (Amazing video btw)
I'm surprised this comparison wasn't made in the video: Gundams are much more similar to Aeldari wraith knights/ phantom titans.
Base gundams from the early Era but you get into turn a gundam and such it kinda goes more into crazy. The turn a literally is powered by a black hole. It's I field also stops energy and physical attacks.
The Luna Titanium used in UC Gundam and Gundanium in AU Wing is words apart in strength.
LT while resistant against standard caliber machine guns; against things like bazooka rounds have clean blown off arms and heads off a Gundam; Along with Heat weapons.
Gundanium in Wing on the other hand is down near indestructible; even able to shrug off particle weapons direct hits and very highly resistant to heat; as they can even re-entry atmospheres without assistance.
Flood Vs Tyranids ‐ with the addition of some genestealer lore on the tyranid side.
Pretty sure the flood would just eat the 'Nids for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. Flood vs any purely organic race isn't even fair.
pancreasnowork already did a flood vs nids video on that. pretty good
Flood gets it. Its infection isn't mere virus is metaphysical.
Personally my money is on the Flood.
You should check out Transformers vs 40K next.
I SHOULD!
You gave me goosebumps with that suggestion. Now I am even more hyped.
Optimus prime would light up the galaxy's darkest hour (he has the touch).
@@livefromtheblacklibrary Da Orkz loot Unicron!
@@jonathanathor117you got the POWAHHH!!!
My boy Optimus prime got yo ass though 💯🥶
If we’re talking about comic Optimus prime, it’s gg EZ. Optimus prime in the comics has killed Cthulhu lmao
@@mysteriousstranger5873most incarnations of Optimus could solos an imperator class
And Turn A just bodies the whole solar system...
This video is really great but I think the issue is just how oversold the Void Shield's strength is. Tau Weaponry, specifically Beam Weapons, are shown to consistently ignore the Void Shields of Imperial Armaments. And Tau Beam Weapons are VERY similar to the Beam Equipment used by Gundams.
The Void Shield was brought up like some secret counter, but it stops the Mega Bazooka, the Gundam shoots the Beam Rifle at the Apocalypse Missile Bay, and the Titan becomes a Firework.
Im just imagining a bod standard gm sniper on a mountain casually sniping the missle bay now
This match up was awesome, there is so much potential crossing over these to settings. I'm imagining a gundam in a stand off with a squad of salamanders in an unintentional hostage situation with civilians caught in the middle.
Hi Chrono, as a long time gundam fan I appreciate the effort you've put into this video, you made probably the most comprehensibile Gundam vs WH40K argument I've seen on internet.I couldn't find any gundam related misconceptions, the only thing I have issue with is the "grunt ms are useless" notion, sure the Zaku 1s and 2s are quite underwhelming but they were the first mobile suits to be ever used in combat, and unlike 40k technology in Gundam does advance as time goes on. In universal century, the rx-78-2 was already considered to be obsolete by the end of the one year war (with it's succes being attributed more to it's pilot Amuro Ray) despite receiving the magnet coating upgrade, and by the time of the gryps wars most mass produced mobile suits were superior to the rx-78.
However despite that, I really enjoyed this video and I hope you'll do more of these in the future, since Gundam is a pretty big franchise (maybe even on par with 40k) so there is still a lot of content to cover in future videos.
I feel like most generalist gundams like the rx-78 would do poorly against a warlord, so I would put my money on more specialized gundams. Like the GN-005 Gundam Virtue , which to be honest is closer to a Titan than a Gundam with it's thick durable armor, weapons capable of completely disintegrating several mobile suits at once, and a particle shield. Also the GN-001 Gundam Exia might have a chance, since it's a higly mobile close range gundam capable of atmospheric flight and designed specifically to pierce the GN fields of enemy gundams in 00. Keep in mind though that both of these are from Gundam 00, a show that takes place in a different universe than the universal century and thus most gundams from it have way less technical detail than the rx-78.
I also wonder how effective newtypes would be, If you don't know they are essentially Gundam's equivalent of a psycher and are far more skilled at piloting mobile suits than a normal human, Amuro Ray himself was a newtype, which is why he was so damn good at piloting the rx-78 (aside from him being the mc). Some Gundams are even designed specifically to be piloted by a newtype.
My personnal favourite gundam is the Turn A, I just really love it's uniqe design and the anime of the same name is my favourite show in the franchise. And even though it is far less powerful than people make it out to be, I believe It definitely could take out a warlord titan. As some people have already said, the Turn-A has a weapon called the "moonlight butterfly", a large quantity of nanomachines capable of disintegrating every single piece of technology on earth. If this system were to be concentrated on the warlord titan, it's void shield generators would likely overheat and the titan would be subsequently destroyed. Besides that, it's believed that the full power Turn-A Gundam has a lot more crazy shit in it's weaponry but most of these claims are very hard to verify, like I heard It's beam rifle could match the output of a colony laser.
Btw, did you watch any Gundam show/content during the making of this video? Just curious.
Hey you forgetting the turn a is powered by a black hole and the i field blocks both physical and energy weapons.
Turn a I think takes all the warlords (assuming no chaos interference and we also go by the novels)
There is one thing about the Gundam that you even mentioned earlier, then forgot about when the battle evaluation came: the head vulcans.
While they aren't likely to do jack against Titan armor, they will be quite good at mitigating one of its main weapons you highlighted: the missile launcher.
The vulcans would be very effective at shooting down even the supersonic missiles and protecting the Gundam as for as long as the ammo lasts, which should be plenty for whatever missiles that can't be effectively dodged.
The utter disrespect for Zakus in the first few seconds, Zeon aces got their title while piloting Zakus
Unicorn Gundam Psycho frame burst mode has full newtype bullshit power that could rewind time to the point it could factory reset any mobile suits (and that's without the beam magnum that has the power to destroy ms without even hitting it)
So we are using the bottom of the barrel of gundams, not even something like after the 1year war.
Also Zuku 2 is great machine unfortunately suffers from something called plot. And was a far better space Nobel suit.
Also no offense but gundam your using was out dated before the end one year war. Less then a year it was out classed and behind the curve.
totally underselling the gundam, you forgot gundam g and magical bullshit powers of gundam martial arts 😂
You forget the titans have the light of the god emperor on their side 🙏
@@Funko777 You forgot the Newtype BS, also Ave Imperator to that my friend
What about the G self having anti matter bombs?
@@angellara7040 it's Photon torpedo
@@kennethmana3103 and as i pointed out the name is deceptive because it uses anti matter
The amount of debates I've had on this depending on the series gundams win......the twin buster rifle blew up a goddamn space station...titans weapons are powerful but nowhere near that level of power and the shields aren't stopping that
Live!: "The Gundam can't beat an Imperator/Warlord. They're too big."
Big Zam: "I am forgotten."
Bruh Zeta had a mega bean launcher it’s hit way harder than anything that the old one year war gundam has
I don't really think this is a good comparison. For the gundam universe it would be better to go with a mid-universal century grunt. Maybe a Geara doga,Geara Zulu, Jesta or Jegan. Mobile suites were primarily designed to take out capital ships in other words heavy slow-moving targets. (They also have rotating turrets) So basically space titans. It's their main strength they are too small and fast to target with heavy artillery type weapons. Also, titans are deployed in groups of 2- 4 while mobile suites are deployed in groups of 5-10 (even 20). Standard titan deployment vs standard mobile suite deployment. With the loss of several units, a group of 10 mobile suites would be able to overwhelm and destroy 2 Reaver-class Titans. anything bigger and they'll have to call in the main character suites.
The ELS from Gundam 00 would be a big ask because they’re essentially an unholy mix of the Khrave, Tyranids, and the Void Dragon.
If any one Titan gets tagged by a single ELS drone, you’re going to have literal millions of living metal Xenos Titans to deal with.
And all of them could also just integrate the weapons and shielding of a Titan to quintillions of ELS Qan [T] (which is just... Setsuna.)
From Gundam size to a planetary size Xenos Gundam.
A harrowing sight.
*Laughs in Mobile Fighter G Gundam*
Or someone decides to let Gundam Lucifer (True) out to play...and hopefully has a way to keep that abomination inside the 40K universe.
It's entire concept is basically a warning about how much of a nightmare you could, potentially, create with a cross or Build universe.
Eh... the Imperium has dealt with worse tbh.
@@YujiroHanma682 Nah. We're talking about the ELS here. They can eat a planet whole in seconds.
Matter of fact, one spore sized ELS on a planet is already exterminatus worthy enough because it grows exponentially. The entire body is a "mouth", it's Grey Goo that can shape shift and save information down to the very DNA, energy, and even technology.
ONE Necron tomb world is literally a death sentence. Because they can upscale a Necron weapon to Planetary size of insanity.
Forget the high-tech "press this and sun explodes" necron technology, because they can survive a Supernova like it's just a hot air in Mexico during the summer.
The worst part: They can evolve to the damage and save that evolution for later. And also teleport. Anywhere in the universe. Like in Yvrain's intestines.
This is something Tszeench would want to be as his vessel. The only problem with that is that the ELS are a Hivemind like the Tyranids. Their mental fortitude is far too much to handle.
Them absorbing Tyranids will also not be a problem. The Tyranid's psyker powers won't work if the ELS could just not listen to it.
This Alien race is the Solution to Tyranids. The nids needs to chew on the ELS to get their biological material, the ELS just needs to touch them and everyone last ELS in the entire Galaxy is already informed.
I'd mention Gundam's Minovsky Particles as a heavy ECM effect (why everything is done in visual range and favoring agility) and Newtype pilots (essentially psykers with future sight like a Spider Sense - he's maneuvering to dodge shots you haven't even fired yet). Deployment matters a lot too, walking up to a Titan is one thing, dropping on it from orbit/aircraft is another. Logistically, I bet a pack of "cheap" mass production Mobile Suits is much easier to produce and deploy than any Imperial Titan. I'll bet any squadron of Zaku II's against any lone Titan, any day. Titans are so absurdly slow, any Mobile Suit getting into melee range and its almost assuredly a done deal. The obvious Imperial solution is combined arms deployment but that's all beyond the scope of this vid.
They have Titan-esque mobile armors in various series and Gundams have proben themselves capable of overcoming the size/armor thickness difference l.
ELS Setsuna: *licks fingers*
Gundam GP 03 Physalis: Want a nuke?
GP02 is my favorite mobile suit.
I have the Perfect Grade GP01 in a case behind me.
If I had the cash (and the space) I'd get the giant GP03 kit.
As a fan of both 40K and Gundam you’re really missing out on the psychotic levels the vast gundam series has at its disposal 😂
I've had this discussion many times over the years, the battle really comes down to which universe is fighting. UC has the most stats listed, so using those for videos makes sense. Most other settings are usually a good power threshold above it.
I'm in full agreement with you on the breakdown against the OG UC Gundam RX-78-2. Would love to see your breakdown against other Gundam universes. I feel that GN Tech Mobile Suits from 00 would be the ones for Titans to fear, particularly as they are both flight capable and can bring truly incredible firepower to bear.
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In regards to the Destroy, I feel that I should mention that if it were in mobile suit form, it would be more dangerous to a Titan. It mounts 4 incredbly powerful beam cannons on the main torso, comparable to the carapace mounted ones, and the omni-directional cannons can be fired to the fore.
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Just imagine the Burning Gundam facing down a Titan. It would be hilarious.
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I'm SUPER hyped for this! So glad you made this episode, I've been waiting for a proper debate for AGES!
Anyways, RIP the Legio Titanica. No amount of sacred oils and binary chanting will save you from a robot unicorn with an Omega+ psyker in it flying at you at Mach 50.
Edit: you made the weakest Gundam… fight the entire Adeptus Titanicus… what the fuck LFTBL
Forget the Unicorn, the Phenex flies at light speed and manipulates time, at the end of Narrative the Phenex flies into deep space at light speed and never stops
@@arlequim235 Actually, the Phenex moves BEYOND light speed. The Unicorn can manipulate time as well, as seen in the fight against the Neo Zeong, and was capable of moving in the timeless void at the end of the universe (which, as a Vs. Debater, I am told gives it immeasurable speed)
@@LordCrate-du8zm I know the full capabilities of the unicorn but it is only used to its full potential once or twice and then Banager seals it forever, on the other hand the Phenex is going all out, all the time, except for when it's trying to guide someone or deliver a message
And we just see a lot more impressive feats from the Phenex, granted that's due to the fact it has a literal machine spirit with the memories of a tortured and mutilated psychic girl
Do you think the Mechanicum would worship the Phenex or try to destroy it?
(Also I didn't know it moved faster than light, that's good to know)
Aren't those other powerful gundams extremely rare, even unique? He even admitted that several titans could loose to the one he picked that can still be produced in numbers like titans. Because the adeptus titanicus game show titans can still be produced.
@@DogseatDogs The thing is you could say the same about titans. They're mostly rare, ancient, and many are unique.
the gundam pilot would simply have to join the ultramarines, bonus points if he is named. the titan would stand no chance against a named ultramarine in a gundam suit
especially so if he was a newtype/coordinator.
enlightened unicorn vs one of those psyker titans
As a Gundam nerd I see this situation as this.
1: if we wanted to do mass produced Ms that would be GMs and Zakus which can get really op as example of the Jegans
2: the RX-78 is a prototype not a mass produced machine and wasn’t meant to be mass produced. And got out matched in the year it was made in 0079. So if you wanted to do the best MS I would have chosen the Nu Gundam or the Unicorn (and to be mean the turn A).
But still a great vid way more thought than what me and my friends have argued over.
I think the G-Self Perfect pack would be terrifying with the Photon Torpedos (the Turn-A supposedly counters it, though).
@@TK4541photon is funny because it just uses anti matter with the light part being mostly insightful outside of holding it in place
@@angellara7040 it would still be terrifying to face in combat.
@@TK4541 oh definitely. Watching people vanish with no explainable reason is horrifying. Just chucks being taken out of things seemingly at random
Gundam Vs titans? we already had that it was called the Gryps conflict
i personally feel the gundam will have a better chance against a warlord. Its bigger size means its slower, and its thicker armor means nothing if its attacked in the gaps between them. The RX-78 just has to get close enough..
A GP02A could maybe take out an Emperator Titan, just due to it being able to fire Nuclear weapons.
Emperor Titan Void shields can withstand Orbital Bombardment and Exterminatus. The GP02A's nuke wouldn't mission Kill an Emperor Titan, and it will be blown out of the sky if it's a Warmonger Class instead of an Imperator.
@@ssjjshawnthe nuke that gpo2 doesn't use a normal nuke. It power is nuts
@@angellara7040 It uses a Normal restrained Hydrogen Bomb, so it's output isnt even Megatons and less compared to Strategic Arsenals which go into the Megatons. Tactical Nukes, mostly Atomic Bombs have an output in the lower Kilotons. The GP02 had a Strategic Nuke in the High Kilotons because the Mk-82 Nuclear Warhead Rocket explicitly called itself a "self restrainting Thermonuclear bomb" whick we do have in real life. It's usually only about 700-900 Kilotons. No where near Titan Scale Weaponry of the Warlord Class, which can melt massive trenchs for miles, and fire Quake Canon Shells that cause Earthquakes if they miss, let alone the Emperor Class.
@@ssjjshawn did you see what it did to the federation fleet? Thats not normal
@@angellara7040 You mean at the naval review, where all of the ships were super close to one another? Yes I have. And Yes that was normal for a Nuclear explosion in space, since it didn't have an atmosphere to help slow down and contain the fireball of radiation, or the chain reaction of the Helium based MP Particle fuel. The Largest Clouds/Fire Balls of Nukes havent been the highest yield ones, but low yield ones in space.
Again, we know exactly that its a Mk-82 Restrained Hydrogen Bomb, with a yield in the High Kilotons. That is not going to knock out a Battle Titan with Void shields, let alone an Emperor.
Ironically you'd want some of the Psycomu shit from Zeta rather than just a Nuke. Kamille would actually be a threat with the Mile long beam saber, or Waverider Kamikazi
You made a mistake when estimating the tnt equivalent of apocalypse missiles because a square kilometer is 1.000.000 square meters and a square mile is closer to 2.590.000 square meters. You also forgot to factor in inverse square law for explosive radius so you actually gave a much bigger figure for explosive strength than appropriate
Ultimately this doesn't matter because mobile suits tend to have anti-missile systems that are fairly effective so apocalypse missiles wpuld not be great vs a gundam (but they could be good fighting MS without AMS like some zeon suits)
@@lordilluminati5836 depends on whether the titan fires enough missiles rapidly enough to saturate its defenses.
@@lurkingedge it can fire 20 missiles maximum within a span of a few seconds at best. That is probably not enough because these are slow artilliery rockets with low TWR so there would be enough time to intercept any of thwm that would chance hitting the MS
@@lordilluminati5836 40k rockets tend to be extremely fast. We are talking about a universe where a bolt gun fires rounds at Hypersonic speeds. Universal Century is no where near that tech level. At least not in the original series.
The RX-78 is piloted by a psyker, tho
*"Black Ships had entered the system"*
@@Humster I don't know how I forgot those existed...
Psyker Light.
This would have been a bit more interesting with the psycho Gundams being used for the comparison.
Or the big zam
@@gregorbonne9089 or maybe the neo zeon
Anyone who can pilot the psycho Gundam without going insane is probably equivalent to a mid tier spyker. For get about mech battles the pilot would just melt the brain of the titan pilot.
@@kriegerh psycho Gundam Pilots are new types and can't really do that on their own they need NTD systems from the Gundam unicorn for that.
@@dariusgalvan680 new type shenanigans go brrrrrrrr. What have we seen in UC timeline alone are bonkers logically.
Also Camille and Judo already do weird unexplained things. There's also Amuro being able to predict attacks before they happen. Char being able to do Jedi mind tricks somewhat, I do not want to even try to understand the Puru1-12.
After a certain point, most Universal Century gundams beat unshielded Titans. Unicorn, f-91, and maybe ZZ gundam could get through the armor of an Imperator Titan and eventually dig into the pilot. The strongest gundam of any series is 00 qaunt. It can probably kill a primarch! It is stupid OP.
To be fair the gundam series isn’t static and tends to advance rapidly to the point that the original gundam RX-78 became obsolete compared to mass produced MS like the jagen. Honestly 5.5 chance against any titan is kinda surprising when you think about the time and cost difference invested in both where’s a titan takes years to construct ( blessing, huge resources,finding a bloody princips ) the gundam was conceived in months during the OYW as a response to Zeons own MS
The Gundam can literally fire the beam rifle in the bazooka at the same time it’s done so many times also while that’s the oldest Gundam it can still jump high enough to just land on the titans bridge. Let’s not forget this is the same Gundam still pre-upgrade that took down the big zone that fires a complete 360° field of fire not including its main can, and that can take out three battle fleets.
AGAIN.
Gundams are so mobile and fast,that the odds of a titans hitting you in a gundam are LOW.
On the other hand, the odds of a Gundam pilot CUTTING the power fist off are incredibly high, as remember.....melee combat is FREQUENT in gundam.
Aka: EVEN an average Ace pilot could do that.
Not a protagonist,just a normal ACE pilot.
I’m sorry but the whole “40k solos fiction or even just sci-fi” is just inaccurate. The amount of settings that have characters that solo the chaos gods combined is pretty staggering.
Hell the fourunners from halo shit all over the verse lol.
Some of the Transformers would run through the entire Warhammer universe. Unicron would be unstoppable. Primus and his children, the transformers themselves, would win the great game of 40k.
Their sparks or souls could never be corrupted by chaos. Their pieces of Primus, the god of order and light. They’re bound to his “Allspark”. And if not they’re automatically bound to Unicron.
A Titan from transformers is usually 600 feet tall. And are capable Large Star Level attacks. And that’s just up scaling from regular sized transformers.
So long as Cybertron doesn’t get lost in the warp they’ll dominate the materium. And eventually the warp will die once order is enforced by the transformers. Also if Unicron is included he’d just run through the warp and start devouring everything
"X solos Y" -Fanboy of X in any X vs Y argument
Marvel for one, has plenty of characters than can just think things in/out of existence
@@falsehero2001 I guess. I just think that in terms of power, 40k is just over hyped at times. It’s the same for Halo as well. I know I sound like a fan boy when I say this but Captain America could probably fight and win against a space marine,even more so with Spider-Man. Fiction is pretty vast and absurd.
“There’s still A LOT of fist!” Why is this so funny
The Deep striker have the equipment to match a warlord titan but is a Mobile Armor than can only be use in space
Well fast ones. The shamblo isn't winning any races
FASCINATING! Say, how about Macross vs Warhammer 40K?
"By the Emperor! Why do they keep singing?"
Outside of the one year war, pretty sure most mobile suits let alone the gundam prototypes would give any Titan a run for its money. The rx-78 is pretty baseline and really is just a very powerful grunt in the scale of things. I know the comments section wants to bring up Unicorn, 00, and Turn A Gundams but even outside of those main character units, I kinda think this is one matchup Warhammer just doesn’t come out on top on. Mechs in Warhammer are insanely cool though.
The rx 78 isn't a good grunt suit by the end one year war. It was outperformed by the normal gelgoog and gm sniper 2
turn A, burning gundam, wing zero snow white prelude, full armor unicorn gundam all want a word
A spacemarine is no match for a human Hellslayer of the Federation of United Settlements.
Dude. You could be gone for a whole year. And we would still be here. Waiting for you. So don't worry too much. We're loyal. And stuck with your thick and thin. Iron with in, iron with out my boy
Personally out of every Warhammer CZcamsr I’d say you’re my favorite. Nothing against the others but there’s just something about the way you speak during the videos that keeps me really interested
Idk much about Gundam, but there's something called Moonlight Butterfly that literally just turns silicon to dust. That would FUCK UP a forge world.
Well the most 40k Gundam we got is Barbatos Lupus Rex.
That Gundam was killing Mika.
I can't put into words how much I adore this sort of geeking out.
Destroy Gundam vs. Imperator Titan
Both are colosal war machines
My take is generally it’s gonna be a ‘HYDROGEN BOMB VERSUS COUGHING BABY’ situation unless a mobile suit is fast enough to physically move past the void shields to get a precision shot with a beam rifle or similar weapon that just says ‘screw you’ to armor
lol the idea of a Gundam pierceing the titans fist with the beam saber and the titan being like,” okay, and?” And just nailing the Gundam and ripping through it
I don't remember you mentioning that this was only covering the one year war and not the other things.
That's like using the original rogue trader.
Post scriptum, okay I watched beyond the fight and I somewhat retract my statement.
I've always seen the Gundam vs Titan debate in the same way how the Tau genuinely didn't believe in the concept of Titans at first and thought they were largely Imperial propaganda.
Smaller, less fortified mechs make a lot more sense because they're less "mechs" and just more like agile weapon platforms. Sure there's some humanoid bias in their design with having arms and legs and stuff but largely the concept is sound.
Titans on the other hands are very fucking impractical as weapon platforms just due to the sheer size and lack of maneuverability they have as a result. If things like Tau Crisis Suits and Gundams are agile weapon platforms then Titans are more like slow-moving fortifications meant to bulldoze other fortifications, literally walking castles. Not only from a strategic perspective would they be impractical from the sheer logistics of transporting them and *still* needing whole legions of smaller soldiers protecting them from sappers they would be extremely cost prohibitive to make as well in needing an entire planet's combined GDP to build and maintain just a squad of them.
In a way though that impracticality kinda loops back around into making the Titan a potent symbol for the Imperium and the Mechanicus. Despite how illogical they frankly are only something as powerful as the Imperium is with its boundless resources is really able to field entire legions of the things. As well, whether they're impractical or not you cannot deny the idea of a supermassive castle on legs wielding spaceship-scale weaponry and blaring deafening sermons wouldn't terrify a lot of normal combatants.
I mean, a million worlds and quadrillions of workers makes them practical. Theyre even acknowledged to be slow to deploy and maneuver in the lore, however, their true strength is in HOW they're deployed. They work in squads of like 5 different titans of differing sizes with overlapping fields of fire and to fill in certain defensive holes. Not only that, but then there's also a bunch of surprisingly swift knights even smaller than warhounds screening infantry and charges. Then you got a ton of admech skitarii on the ground further screening for ground based dangers. Maybe something swift like a Tau anime suit might present a danger 1v1 but in a practical warzone.....not even close. It's dead before it even knows it's in range.
@@Funko777 Except, in some continuites Gundams are deployed in teams like the protaganists in 00 where each of their mobile suits compliment each other's strengths and weaknesses. Virtue provides heavy fire from it's GN Bazooka, Dynames snipes from afar and can even shoot through the stratosphere, Kyrios intercepts targets due to its aircraft mode and Exia is a close range fighter and let's not even mention the GN Particle bullshit and the fact those suits are from the first seaon of the anime, though they're not particularly impressive
Mobile armors exist. The destroy gundam and psycho gundam are huge
"I did a lot of research for this one"
*Calls zakus the most common mobile suit and the Rx-78 the EFFs strongest suit*
A better match up would be late or post UC mobile suits
Warhammer already has what can be considered an analogue of Gundams - battlesuits of the Tau Empire.
Nah, the closest things in 40k to mobile suits are Eldar titans.
@@suncanny1418 Only in design and mobility, but that’s all. Eldar titans are made not from metal but from psycho-bones, controlled with help of psyker powers, inside they do not have metal mechanisms but crystals. Eldar titans look less like Gundams, and more like giant golems from fantasy.
@@user-oj4ll2bf6k Riptides don't hold a candle on a Mid UC Gundam (Zeta, Nu)
I am 100% fine waiting a month for videos. Especially since they're this hugh quality
there are SOOO many verses that would crush 40k. Like the stronger alien races in Remembrance of Earth's Past (3 Body Problem) could turn Terra's solar system 2 dimensional with a Dimension Strike weapon from whatever galaxy they happen to be in. Or how about Dragonball? We don't even need the whole verse or the strongest characters with in it, just the Saiyans from before Frieza destroyed their planets would wreck 40k - they have dudes who can annihilate planets by pointing at them hard and yelling.. ...Or how about the Marvel universe? Wtf is anyone in 40k going to do to stop a Celestial from ending them all? ... And this isnt even getting into the actually absurdly overpowered verses - like what about the Xeelee? Wtf could anyone in 40k do about the Xeelee? And the Xeelee arent even that high up in their own universe. Honestly people really overhype how strong the 40k universe is, like it definitely is a very strong setting but only for the kind of setting that it is. If the weapons in 40k were as strong as a Dimension Strike then there wouldnt be any ground wars or ship battles, alien civilizations would just get literally crushed the instant they were found out about. It wouldnt make sense to have a weapon like that in 40k, like the closest thing 40k has to that is the Necron's Celestial Orrery but because of the nature of the setting and the types of stories told in it there have to be reasons for why the Necron's never use it, because if they did it would spoil over the parts of 40k that actually make it what it is. .... so like for some perspective - in 40k the Celestial Orrery is commonly considered as arguably the most powerful weapon there is, theres only one Celestial Orrery (as far as we know at least), and the best it can do is make a star just in this one galaxy go supernova - whereas in Remembrance of Earth's Past there are implied to be countless alien civilizations that have tons of Dimension Strike weapons and they use them like how a janitor uses a broom instead of with the awe and reverence given to the Orrery. idk im just rambling at this point so ill stop
The Celestial Orrery is not even close to the most powerful weapon in 40k. Though I do agree there are more powerful sci-fis out there.
40k is the most powerful setting out of actually popular Sci-fi though. Dragon Ball doesn't really count as sci-fi.
As for things like the Xelee for example, no one really cares. It is a pretty poorly written series whose only claim to fame in the last ten+ or so years has been people discovering how OP it is.
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He right they would end the neighborhood without a second thought
From Gundam Wing I'd say that most of the upper tier (top half to to third) of mobile suits would do very well. The Wing Gundam has a fair chance of being able to take down void shields with its buster cannon, but Vayeate, Tallgeese III, and Wing Zero are gonna tear apart just about everything with their main guns (Zero most consistently) since their cannons can one-shot entire kilometers long space colonies.
Alternatively, Deathscythe and Epyon are incredibly fast and agile MS with massive melee beam weapons (Epyon cut an entire battlestation in half, essentially) so they'd stand a good chance of closing the distance past void shields and slicing everything apart. Not to mention that Wing's version of Gundanium is probably the toughest in the franchise. Heck, all the top tier suits in this timeline are ridiculously light and fast.
Honestly, even the Taurus mass produced mobile suit can do everything the RX-78 and Zeta can do, but arguably better: simpler transformation, beam sabers, beam rifles, beam cannons. Heck, they can even be turned into drones so kamikaze attacks aren't... as costly.
I'm not even going to mention what something like an X or Double X Gundam could do with their satellite cannons...
A titan could black from about the halfway point, through a massive warship. Said ship was at least 100km long, and so it probably went through at least 50 kilometers.
That was just a Warlord Titan, which is the most standard.
There are Titans from other races which are quite mobile, and more destructive than Gundams, and Titan's still deal with them just fine.
Zeta Gundam might have been a good choice as well, it did get set up for mass production. A good number of Ace pilots got them
Amuro and Johnny ridden just partying with their zetas
Beam weapons are no joke. Realistically one good shot from a beam rifle could take out a Titan since the larger Titans are comparable to Mobile Armors.
To be honest, you ARE comparing practically the weakest Gundam to some of the heaviest hitters in the 40K universe. The RX-78-2 was actually outdated by the end of the very series it starred in, if you were to choose machines like the Zeta Gundam, Double Zeta (ZZ) Gundam, S-/Ex-S Gundam, Psycho Gundam, Nu Gundam, Unicorn Gundam, Xi Gundam, Penelope or even a Neo Zeong, you'd definitely see a good number of Titan models topple when you put it against those more advanced machines. They're a lot more than just THE Gundam in the UC timeline. For example, the ZZ Gundam would just have to make it past the Void Shield and slightly damage its head with a high output from its forehead particle cannon.
Also, it's funny that you haven't mentioned New Types. The abilities of one on a battlefield essentially means they're able to sense the intent of an enemy and predict their attacks. So you're fighting someone who also knows how you're going to punch him. Unless you had a Psyker, you're almost never going to hit a Gundam pilot.
-Gundam turns on its Minovsky reactor
-Minovsky particles blind auxspex and wireless comunication, can only look out the windows
-Titan never knows where gundam is
-Stabbed in cockpit never knowing what happened
Not to mention any mobile suit with funnels just flies them through the void shield and one shots the titan in the head with a beam.
The turn a Gundam could solo the titans
"gundam pilot isnt a protag"
> makes gundam pilot a protag with his anime moment
I really liked this video it's a good examination of both franchises. If you're going to do more of these I have a suggestion. How well would enemy races in destiny do if they were to be transported to Warhammer? I think you can get some really interesting conclusions from that especially with the Vex and Hive.
The real winning strength of the gundam is its void capability. WH40k voidships are huge and stuffed with guns, but the speed and maneuverability of a gundam would allow it to close to melee. Once there the beam saber could be used to simply cut the ship apart. The only hiccup would be if void shields can stop the gundam from reaching the ship.
Conversely the biggest weakness of the gundam is the pilot, who would be vulnerable to psykers.
40k bombers and fighters are also massive.
I mean you could just get inside the void shield, then shoot your bazooka and beam rifle.
"This is no Zaku boy, NO ZAKU" - some princepts probably.
Did we not see the big zam fight cut that titan at the ankles if it loses balance that boi gonna fall hit and run beam saber right through the legs jump on the titan tear it to peices easy pz