Here's Why The Bentley Bentayga W12 Might Finally Be A Sensible Purchase...
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- čas přidán 19. 03. 2022
- In today's video, I drive the first generation Bentley Bentayga. I have previously sampled and enjoyed the facelifted car - but now I'm trying the earlier car with the W12 engine. In Europe, we never got the W12 in the facelift Bentayga, and it was discontinued worldwide in 2020 - but is there enough about this to make it worth buying?
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Finally, something more budget friendly.
It sips, sips, sips 😄
So is an electric bike.
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@@paladin3116 you missed the joke m8
Your reviews getting better and funnier all the Time. And the latter one making me giggel so often, thank you for honesty and fun in awful times, take care.
That’s why I love your videos. Nothing compares to these gems
Great video mate, you summed the car up perfectly 👌
I was an Audi apprentice and we used to stay at Cranfield and watching you drive through there brings back so many memories even if they were only a couple of years ago. Good ol apprentice corner 😂
The Bentley Bentayga does have this presence on the road, a majestic presence befitting an oil baron. Nice content.
After driving these, I found the V8 Diesel to be the real sweetspot of the range and you get an extra 10mpg, beautiful crazy as Luke Combs might say 🚙👍🏻
Nice to hear this car has that waft of the old Bentley with the soft suspension. Thanks for showcasing the car. Keep up the good work.
Again,another banging review my guy....kind regards from joseph
A Marantz Player just casually thrown into the field. Must be a expensive living area :-D - Great review! Was really a joy to watch.
Thanks J. Worrying costs on a car that new, unless the accident hid more than originally thought, wheel impact affecting steering rack etc?
Good to hear your views on this type of luxury I'll never own!
The roadside debris gets more abstract each time!
I was a bit taken back when you said 85 grand is sensible, but then I remebered how much new cars cost these days and as you say for the money and what you get it does make sense.
It bewilders me how much can go wrong on a ~ 6 year old car with low miles. I suppose when you want to defy physics and make a two plus ton SUV drive like a car the whole equal and opposite strains come into play much, much more quickly.
It's not just this model. I went to buy a 2016 Mulsanne from a Bentley dealer and even though the car had barely over 6,000 miles on the clock the back seat had been removed to have a new electric motor fitted.....
@@BibtheBoulder that’s nuts
no, its just shit engineering.
it's more on the brand than anything. Certain companies know their buyers, and only build their cars to last around a lease period and that's it.
6 years isn’t that short of a time. Don’t just casually slip over half a decade in there 😂
Just scrolling to breakfast while watching something and this pops. Lovely Sunday video
Edit: god, those reliability issues are scary. He might have gotten a factory guarantee, but the costs are monstrous
Another great video. Bonkers to have spent that much on the car, Considering the 3rd Gen Touaregs are around £30K now. Gotta love VWs platform approach and massive profit margins
Got to say, those are a lot of costly issues at that mileage. I thought my old-ish Cayenne turbo was somewhat costly, I now realise its the equivalent of a granny owned 1985 Toyota Starlet in running costs in comparison. Hopefully most of them are better than this example..
Well, I don’t own a Cayenne, however a few years ago I bought a used starlet for my wife to learn to drive. I can tell you, spare parts weren’t cheap at all for the starlet. The price of an air filter for the starlet alone was enough for me to buy 3 air filters for my Civic.
@@ruinunes8251 Yeah, but was it an old 1980s Starlet? Surely almost every one rusted away ages ago... In its heyday though, the thing about them was they never broke mechanically. Ever. And servicing items such as air filters could be easily found aftermarket for a few quid. Thats why I used it in an analogy of cars with extremely low running costs.
@@GoldenCroc I bought it about 10 years ago and even a aftermarket filter was stupidly expensive and not many available at the time. I sold it roughly after a year.
@@ruinunes8251 Well "1980s starlet" and "heyday" being some key words in my previous post, seems like neither was applicable to your ownership. Cheers.
The VW W8 and W12 engines are utterly terrifying to own once they get on a bit. Here we got both engines in various VW badged vehicles - they were a pretty common site up until they all started to get on a bit - now you never see them at all because they have all been mechanically written off by the engines. I guess a Bentley is going to take quite a bit more dollar wise to mechanically write it off... but then you have the added stress of the turbo charging... I'd be staying well clear.
The owner went from a Mulsanne to a Bentayga? That's nuts.
well its easier to park I guess
Even the rich are brainwashed by the SUV craze...
@@time.dealer Especially the rich - they started it.
The only reason it reached the mainstream is because a generation of motoring journalists comprehensively failed to educate car buyers about the dangers and drawbacks of SUVs.
Unbelievable honestly
@@Yaro2 talk about a downgrade.
I would be surprised if there where many of these left on the road in 20 years time.
You would be nearer the mark if you said 2 years. I know of 3 that have been scrapped with less than 100,000 miles on the clock, one with 47,000 because of engine issues. Quoted 40hrs Labour just to remove the engine. Apparently the entire front end has to come off?
Utter junk.
@@gothicpagan.666 Older luxury cars where bad enough but these days so many luxury cars have taken the long repairs to a whole new level. I wouldn't touch any of these cars, I would sooner buy a Maserati or an Alfa instead and those are known to be pretty bad already. At least a Maserati looks sexy.
I'm not even sure whether it would be worth chucking one in a barn and forgetting about it for 20 years. Sure, you might have the only one left when it finally sees daylight again but is anyone really going to look back with misty eyes and reach deep into their pockets to prise it out of your possession?
Why? It’s mostly Audi and Porsche parts. It’s the most reliable Bentley ever. There is absolutely no reason to believe what you’ve said is actually going to come true.
@@gothicpagan.666 anyone scrapping a 47k car with engine issues is a scammer. It’s msrp was 3-6 times that 😂 those can’t be real examples.
I’m off to spend my life savings on a vehicle which one day will be less than ten grand with more issues than a foreign leader gone rogue
Been watching white details even longer than your ace channel Jay! Totally accurate on this beast of a Bentley!🤔✌️😂🤘
I absolutely loved the scrap money comparison for a Bentley, M3 and 911 😂😂
Wholeheartedly agree on the dials. So much classier.
here is Australia right now there are 8 or these cars avaialable. Average price across those 8 is about AUD365,000 (GBP206,000). Unaccessible for all but the most fortunate. Glad you enjoyed the experience James.
Yes, anything at all that is of interest is twice the price here.
Dinged Jack can on CD player.
Pure. Content.
I very much prefer the styling of this (1st gen) Bentayga over the current one. Sure, it may look a bit Q7-ish to some, but every time I see one on the road I can't help but smile! I'd have a V8 petrol though. I would also have a Bentayga over a Urus _any day!_
Your right about the v8 over the w12. I have worked on a few Bentleys and the v8 is more reliable because it’s a simpler design from the vw group part bin and it has a larger fuel range too. I wish that Bentley could return the diesel v8 because that engine suits the car better and it can achieve like 40mpg which gives it a 500 mile range as opposed to 300 with the petrol ones.
Loved the old VCR and JD & Coke shot 😉
I’ve always liked these the only thing stopping me from getting one is the lack of funds
I think he did well to get the Bentley-backed warranty. It's the only way to run something like this, in my opinion.
There are two huge advantages to manufacturer-backed warranties. First, the service department or whoever approves the claims will deal with them similarly to a new car warranty. Secondly, the cost of the repairs to the warranty company is effectively at a wholesale cost, so on average, you are actually getting your car fixed with genuine new parts close to the wholesale price. The only downside to all this is that repairs may take a very long time to complete because dealerships tend to do the money-making jobs first.
I have had a BMW-backed warranty on my BMW 760i for the last 11 years, I have had value for money out of it for almost every year. Even if I did all the work on the car myself, the warranty would still be value for money for the parts alone.
Most of the premium manufacturers have a similar program, however, the dealerships do not go out of their way to sell the policies.
Switchgear is stupid expensive to create and test, which is why it's usually the last thing to not be shared with something.
Last minute mention of Calvin surprised me!
Jay and sensible vehicles, that’s a laugh.
Still think this car is absolute class. One day ill have one
Wow, eye watering
Grace, Space and Pace. The only variation Boris didn't use during those press conferences.
Toerag? Cold!
These sorts of cars always put me in mind of a cobbler making a running welly or a cross-country stiletto.
You just failed to option the can of spray mud and gold plated spray mud holder.
This is vital for when you leave the Bentayga at Waitrose in your Barbour and green wellies.
Are you able to recommend a company that does the best tailored outdoor car covers. Thanks.
I feel that Jaguar have the art of making handles LOOK quality bang on 😂
agreed lmao, love them tho
I pretty sure who ever buys a Bentley has no concern about the gas mileage lol
Love you show keep on driving
Having no concern for gas mileage and the gas price is one thing, but it also transfer to having no concern for pollution. But I guess it goes hand-in-hand for these people.
It's a modern car, it will be cleaner than an "ordinary" Ford of 15-20 years ago
@@CaptainHoratioPugwash I hope you don't fly, travel on boats or freeze over the winter-time on your bicycle.
@@alexandrecouture2462 who cares
@@CaptainHoratioPugwash CO2 is not a pollutant as such. NOx and hydrocarbon particulates are what you need to worry about far more.
Know people with svrs, g63 and x5m comp and lambo urus but not this why? Or the RSQ8 still waiting to see one up close
They've finally depreciated to 4D/Gel plate levels. Coming to a council estate near you soon.
Good spot on the noddy Gel number plate phenomenon
Not now, they've been made illegal
Attractive in the same way a breeze-block with its corners knocked off is attractive. In defence of breeze-blocks they aren’t vulgar.
Of course, the fly in the ointment here, is that your £80K second hand Bentayga will still come with the maintenance costs of a £200K car attached. Which is *always* the problem when cars like this fall down the depreciation snake.
I discuss exactly this in the video
@@JayEmmOnCars ... but how many will listen to you when buying a wildly depreciated former rich boy's toy? :)
I've seen some eye watering mistakes made in this vein myself. Such as the individual who thought "YAY! I CAN BUY A FERRARI FOR JUST £10K!!!", only to discover the hard way that getting it MOT worthy resulted in a £40K repairs bill ...
Even a second hand "halo car" in decent condition is going to burn your wallet at some point in the future, but even your considered advice won't stop them taking the plunge ... though to be fair, most of the offenders in this vein will be watching Clarkson instead of you :D
but this one... with a 2 year bentley warranty attached, should give a new owner serious bang for their buck?
Does the Bentaga share the platform with the Porsche Cayene? I have a Mercedes W215 that hurts when I take it in for service. But I would drop dead after receiving the bill to service the Bentaga. The only Benntley I have lusted for is the Turbo R. But never pulled the trigger for the fear of those service bills.
Jay what's with the VCR subliminal?
Saw the nasty one you said about!
Trying to convince my brother to sell his 58k well spec’d volvo for a profit and get one of these
So much cooler and better value than a Range Rover or Aston Martin Puma. In the right colour they look fabulous a few years on and growing into their looks.
I always liked the old title but I don’t get this new one. It was nice to see the old one at the end, though.
I would say the steering rack didn't like having a " crash" hard enough to push a in back enough to write the car off.
I wish Bentley and all the luxury manufacturers would drop these silly oversized SUVs and instead make estate versions of their more regular cars. All the practicality with none of the downsides.
My problem with the snow argument is that whilst a 4x4 (on correct tyres) can get you where you're going, your route will be blocked by cars that cannot so you're still f*****d!🙂
0:53 - Why are the wheels facing in different directions?
Bentayga always has presence and I notice them every time, but they never have any style or beauty.
It's noticed because it's a Bentley (in Ireland)
22K with those kind of problems should of been covered by Bentley period.
Wasnt sold by them, why should they cover it?
Big heavy cars are hard on upper and lower control arms , panhard rods , steering racks , bushes , tie rod ends ect if the car is NOT driven regularly , if you drive it regularly , those issues do not manifest . Another thing that fails is the air suspension if undriven , this Bentley will be better with its suspension sensors than a range rover , range rover suspension sensors are utterly crap .
@JayEmm I’m cross-shopping the Bentayga and the FF at the moment as a second car. In your opinion which is better from the inside?
Bentayga will be way roomier and more luxurious and comfortable, FF by far the better drive... not sure why anyone would cross shop the two, they're so wildly different!
OMG you found a Marantz cd 63 by the side of the road!
I hate the facelift rearend. The earlier square lights are much better.
Agreed, the taillights on the new design language look like a pair of smooched lips and belong on insert sports car here. The old lights looked "proper and Bentleyish" and like they actually belonged there, not tacked on as an afterthought.
@@TheJononator new v8 is step back bcos w12 is supertjuuper
2:10 He talking about the red one 😂
£22k repair bill on a car that’s done 22k miles….so the theory of the rich getting richer doesn’t apply with their cars then 😂
The rich buy new and get a warranty.
It's best to buy second hand low mileage and full service history, in the right colour and tasteful interior.
Vags Tourag equivalent of a Vanden Plas Allegro.
Very good 😂.
Also with the pre 21 models it says Bentley in the headlights the new ones don’t
Give me a cayanne over this. The Porsche even though shares the same platform looks alot different to a the Q7/Toureg is shares the platform with.
Only reason they are so expensive service is because Dealers know the owners have money so they just charge what the hell they want.
£22,000, holy hell, how can folks afford these prices.
Still despise this thing. SUVs do not appeal in the slightest, but this might be my least favourite.
12:40 This will happen more often due to the combination of depreciation and rising inflation.
If i could have one it would be the Bentley all day over any Urus
If the Chancellor is still looking for someone to pay taxes in an equitable fashion, I volunteer this bloke.
S'funny. I live just up the road from the Bentley factory in Crewe (in Middlewich) and these things are everywhere. In fact, my skanky old 2005 Volvo S80 is rarer..!!
Engine mounts is certainly a vag group thing that and gearbox mounts
I feel SO much better about £1k in the first 6 months on my 2015 Range Rover SDV8!
Loved the scene of the can on the vcr....lol
... wait, I'm still busy with the shirt.
I am yet to see a Bentayga with nice, consistent panel gaps and a tailgate that fits properly, for the money these things cost that's the least you could expect.
It can’t be worst than an certain electric car I saw another day where the door at the top had a 6mm gap and at bottom you couldn’t fit a hair.
@@ruinunes8251 very true, Tesla build quality can be appalling
Is that true fella??
@@simonstyles4536 yup, not seen any of the more recent iterations of it, but certainly the early Bentaygas look like they've been thrown together
@@TheMadTatter I’m not interested whatsoever in bentaygas or whatever they are called 😂 but the next time I see one I will pay special attention for the gaps. It is shocking that the quality control of some companies is a bit appealing nowadays.
Theres me complaining about having to replace my crank seal on my Vw diesel with 152k
At 15:04, what is going to be next on the pile? A TV maybe? 😀
I paid $125k 3 years ago for a 2017 with 20k miles. $10k per year depreciation for a bentayga seems pretty reasonable.
How’s the fuel consumption on the w12
@@thecreatordiesalone8703 not great. We get about 13.5 around town.
@@DrEMichaelJones lives up to its reputation ,Definitely discouraging . Planned on picking up that or the 50th anniversary edition Range Rover.I think I’ll go the the diesel variant of the Bentayga
With the fuel prices and current state of affairs, expect these things to get much more affordable in the not too distant future.
That said, I have two questions... Number one, will the savings from the depreciation be enough to ease the pain at the pump? Number two, in the coming turbulence ahead are you prepared to be seen driving around a W16 Bentley 4x4? If you go out for dinner, make sure you park it where you can see it or every second person who walks by will have their bike lock keys in their hand.
I have a friend who used to own a M3 and he only parked where he could see the car.
If you can afford a 100k+ car you are not worried about how much it will cost to fill up.The annoyance will be how often you will have to fill up. On the other hand you shouldn’t be put off buying anything because of someone’s perception!
@@johnguidetti5839 If you can afford to buy a £100k+ car that was well over twice that price when it was new... It means you probably couldn't afford it new and if you couldn't afford it new, a 50% increase in the fuel is something you're gonna notice.
And as far as the perception of people goes, not caring what they think is a different thing from walking out to your ride in the shopping centre car park and finding a note from the riff raff scratched into your paint.
Which will almost certainly happen and significantly increase the running costs that's for sure.
Not to mention, nobody is going to let you out at a junction in that and unless you're Ned Flanders, that would get real old, real fast.
@@johnguidetti5839 Some people just barely can afford them on the lease let alone the fuel. But because it looks good in the driveway and their status. 😂
Like I said on the RR video, these big cars offer a lot of comfortable space for an averaged sized guy. But it seems quite large for many of the small lanes in UK. I'd still take my old Macan Turbo as a right-sized SUV with sharp handling.
Just don’t spec those wheels they’re a freaking nightmare to clean. They have a ridge inbetween the spokes that collects brake dust like crazy! And it’s very difficult to get behind to get it out.
Looked at a Bentayga but ended up with a brand new SQ7 Vorsprung for £84k (with discounts). A much better deal imho
Such monumental coin dropage on a CatD/C car!! The price of vanity perhaps?
With the V8 diesel yes
When all is said and done, this and the Urus are big, comfortable, high performance SUV’s. IMO they are both pretty ugly too.
So, close your eyes getting in as it’s not pretty, ignore the turbo lag and if like me you are an old git that has no concerns about having the latest infotainment, then I commend a gen 1 Cayenne Turbo. It does have a Bose hi fi, glass sunroof and buttons to adjust the air suspension easily, just as James said he would like on the Bentley
Sort the plastic cooling pipes and prop shaft joint for c £2k for both jobs if not done already, and like me you can then have a FMDSH car with < 80k miles for under £10k that does everything almost as well as the Bentley for about 15% of the cost.
I recently test drove an AM DBX that with options as fitted was close to £200k. I drove back from the dealer in my £10k Cayenne Turbo and definitely didn’t feel I was getting only 5% of the DBX experience that I had paid for.
Owned it for 3 years now and subject to the aforementioned cooling pipes and prop shaft fixes done as a precautionary measure, it’s been faultless on many 1000 mile round trips between my U.K. and French homes, loaded to the gunnels👍
Not really my kind of motor, as I'm not am SUV fan and it's a bit of a behemoth.
It is however impressive at defying physics, does make a fabulous noise when on song and the metal switchgear is beautiful.
Found for sale on ebay
These cars need the TESLA PLAID POWER PLANT. Why, Faster, smoother, quieter and with less maintenance.
I'm not exactly a fan of SUVs, but it's only when you get up close and personal to a Bentayga, as I have done at Concours events, that you appreciate its quality. I don't think you can make any rational decision to choose the Bentley over the equivalent Range Rover, and certainly not the quirky W12 engine, but its trump card is its snob value and appeal to traditional British 'oneupmanship'.
Ah, someone else who calls them " Toe Rags"
..I wonder for how long I could torture Bentaya W12 towing 3500kg trailer up to muddy hill before electronics or flames shut it down due to overheating....manage business as such is the only purpose that separates it from top-spec Audi A(S;RS)6 Avant.....BTW..this is not turbo right? So it ca be propane converted....
Meanwhile, the price of petrol is creeping towards £2 per litre.
How does this car cope without carbon ceramic brakes? 👀
Seem like the W12 is still available in the bentayga speed
Still are worse too many engine issues valves and electrical problems need deep pockets just to have some art work in your driveway
A 63 K I sig cast aside?!?
Surely it's an app connecting people through an app, no? Unless people are just climbing in to strangers cars and saying "hello, cars connect people don't you know, where are we going now? I'm hungry"
Yes I am bored and taking the proverbial, good video all the same.
Target market is unfazed by your opinion and bias against these vehicles
The £14K bill on my dads 15 plate 3litre low mileage Rover, caused by a leaking B pillar sunroof scuttle. It pored under the dash and killed the stop start ECU plus wiring.
Just goes to show you that it's not just Bentley that can cost you a bob.
These are all just toy's. If you've got the money to splash good on you. But for heavens sake budget for it.
Cars like this will be rare as rocking horse shit in the future.
Maybe a warranty like those in the USA that covers bumper to bumper?
@@ruinunes8251 Certainly a bumber. They did not have the start stop ECU (as it never went wrong) so the car was off the road for 3 months while they were ordering one made from Morocco.
What I can't believe is he's replaced it with a 20 plate RR sport PHEV. Although it does have a long warranty.
@@andrewfrancis3591 I love how nowadays these companies to not stock anything purely relying on logistics to deliver a few weeks down the line. The so called logistics, should be able to deliver the very next day, not weeks.
@@ruinunes8251 Just in time is not always that lol.
Totally understand the appeal.....20 years ago. Ive run V12 and supercharged Jaguars years ago but fuel was £2 a gallon, at £6+ now and will be near £10 within 2 years nah not when I can get better performance from an EV due to the inherent torque and power envelope. If you like the tarts handbag interior look well good luck you will be paying dearly for it not just in the running costs but the tanking resale value as a product of the up coming oil shortage, fuel prices are gonna go one way and its not down, now there are better and non polluting options available. Sorry to be such a downer but as I worked in big auto world wide for 40+years, been driving a Tesla Model S for 8 years, and invested in Tesla at $48 a share I will class my self as having a reasonable insight to whats happening and folks its your hard earned wongo will support the stranded capital investments of short sighted big auto and you will be left with a lemon.