‘Remakesters’ and the Myth of Game Preservation
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- čas přidán 12. 09. 2024
- 'Remasters will aid in game preservation' is a lie. Here's why.
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Menu Music - Tony Hawk Pro Skater OST
Mall Music 3 - Dead Rising OST
Beautiful City Bump - Joseph Jacobs
Mass Destruction - Persona 3 OST
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Though your argument is sound, it doesn't really relate to WHY people like these types of things. I do fully agree that a full on re-release is the best way to preserve a game rather than remakes or remasters, but the audience for these games just like getting to play games again in higher definition with less clunky controls.
and plus as far as Dead Rising, it already got its full on re-release eight years ago, the last 'remaster' we got was just a straight up, faithful port of the 360 version that can run at higher res on a modern system
@@DoctorNastyy Sadly, Dead Rising 2 and OTR had a lot of problems they crash the longer you play them, blood not staying on Chuck, multiple audio issues etc. Hopefully, they will fix them if they remaster 2.
DEAD RISING 2 DELUXE REMASTER I SEE MONEY CAPCOM 💰 🤑 💸 👀
The issue with 'remasters' are stuff like the Yakuza 3 remaster which completely tarnished the game's reputation by breaking the combat. The original game was designed for 30fps, so when the remaster came out and was 60fps, the combat broke and enemies had double the reaction time (and thus ended up always blocking your attacks) - in the original game you could easily sidestep enemies if they were blocking and hit them from behind, but in the remaster the enemies automatically block if you try that.
Also, I swear to god if they delist Dead Rising 1 to get people to buy the remaster....
They likely won't delist it. They didn't remove the original Resident Evil 4.
On Steam they renamed the old RE games like RE4 I think it was renamed to RE4 classic like how COD games got renamed like OG MW2 to MW2 2009
lol the DR1 on the Steam is already remaster so this is a remaster of a remaster
While they would not delist it be prepared for never getting on discount now same as DMC 4
Ok my issue Is becaude they can just be faithful with the original designs faces AND models of the dead rising, just the thing they dont need to do i just dont put more wrinkles to Frank west and dont inspire Make him the uglier Frank frome the beta, don't Make change Jessica face to make her face and More similar to the main character of mass effect Andromeda and brad garrison they do the mistake of making His nose More stretch... Dude just be faithful with His original nose don't Make a stretch version..
Sometimes developers like to gauge interest with a remaster before developing a new title, if it performs well hopefully we'll see a new dead rising
Yeah, I'm not falling for that again.
Specially if this Deluxe Remaster is a snapshot of the future.
All I'ma say is... After Dead Rising being.. well.. dead for 7 years. I find it really hard to complain myself.
Sometimes dead is better
@@r.graves5531the new engine looks like trash
@@ImAkira.. so did the old engine.
@@danwoods8195 no
@@ImAkira.. Yes. you blind bro.
Dead rising is my 100% favorite game series. First game I can remember growing up REALLY liking. It was my first game basically. I am absolutely loving that this game is getting a remake. I cannot wait to see more and play it. It’s been the one thing I’ve been waiting for for years!! Any game announcement shows I always hoped to see something for dr. So glad it just randomly got dropped.
this is the first time I've been so giddy over a game coming out man
i mean if all they are going to do is clean up the graphics, redo the voice lines & modernize the controls a bit then yeah i have no problem with this. oh and capcom also dropped down the price of the original to just 10 bucks!
i feel like no one takes video games seriously as art form and thats really sad. look at the comment in any video of an old game and you will inevitably see "god id love a remake of this" "this needs a remaster" and so on. and whats so bizarre is these people already LIKE the game theyre talking about thats what so bizarre. nobody looks at a painting and says "wow this is really cool they should repaint this" no one reads their favorite book and says "they should rewrite this" people are even opposed to remakes in film for the most part. i dont understand the industry's obsession with george lucasing old games because the odds of a remaster screwing nothing up is near zero. they almost always bork the lighting or some other visual.
I still think RE2 Remake is peak. I feel remakes of games are way different from a book or art. Games have way more depth than words on a page. Camera angles, mechanics, art style, story, etc.
I'm actually one who argues remakes (that are done well) are better than half ass remasters because it's truly a different way to play the game. Then the old game can still be preserved or emulated for people who still want to play them.
Of course, remakes can be somewhat shite like RE3 remake. Bare bones raccoon city with gameplay that lasts only 5ish hours.
It's more an argument of passion vs greed. If developers care about the source material. Then a remake is fine for modern audiences.
I definitely wish more new IPs were being made, though.
Games are 100% an art form and I would say it's regarded as so more now, than ever before. The first time I played Last of Us blew my fucking mind. So did Bioshock when it first came out.
I think Resident Evil gets away with the remakes because the material to remake is actually older. Going from RE2 1998 to RE2 2019 was a surreal expirence for me. I remember being a kid and playing the OG.
@@funky_dude709 re2 remake threw the baby out with the bathwater and deleted the music, many enemies, and even the gameplay. It absolutely did not bring the experience of re2 to modern audiences instead opting for cultural vandalism George lucas style.
@jedley01 I'd like to add that it definitely needs to have better writting. People praise RE2 Remake (it's pretty fun after all) but the plot, the characterization, the dialogs all were downgraded.
It feels more cinematic at the cost of delivering a laughable experience outside of gameplay 😅.
I completely agree! It’s so bizarre to me that people think “remaking games” is fixing them when often times they remove and change the identity of the original. The fact that og games of remakes are rendered “useless” after a game is remade is sad, it’s not game preservation by making a new remake for “modern audiences”, it’s changing the experience of the original to appeal to a wider audience.
@jedley01 nah see that's what I'm taking about.youre looking at old art and going "we don't need to bring this experience to a new audience we need to pave over it an replace it" like nah
First port of call... T.J Rotolo voice mod
moral of the story if a remaster game a game sucks just emulate the original
1:08 Literally the first thing that popped into my head, when I first saw the announcement for this.
The fact we are even getting these games at all on modern systems is good enough for me, which says alot about the industry unfortunately.
Dead rising is already on moder systems
I love Deadrising, I got it day 1 when I had a CRT with those tiny text boxes. But I'd much rather them work on a Dino Crisis remake than this. We got a pretty great port on ps4 and a not so good DR2 port, why make a new one with new voice actors no one asked for.
it's probably just to build up interest in the franchise for a new entry, or in other words money. As a DR fanboy i choose to remain optimistic that they will fix up those horrendous PS4/Xbone ports of DR2 and hopefully port Case Zero & Case West to modern platforms
0:41 One theory is to see how much the RE ENGINE can handle considering the amount of stuff that's interactive in DEADRISING.
The other is to see if people are still interested in DEADRISING.
Also the 2016 Remaster was more of a high fidelity port to work on modern hardware (And give us readable text boxes😂). Atleast that still has T.J. Rotolo.
2:33 You'd think game cover artists would have more imagination and freedom to make something better.
4:40 I still can't believe the Arkham Remasters autosave was bugged for years!
Keeping original soundtracks are hard to do in some cases. They have to aquire the rights again and they might have to pay more now then they did back then. Its a money thing.
If a game can't be remastered then don't do it seems pretty simple to me
The gameplay footage has been revealed. They made a ton of improvements to the original.
I will openly say, that yeah piracy is a great alternative for getting delisted games
Curious, if the voice clips are going to be the same.
Do you think they’ll mod the game to only have the original voice actor of Frank?
i like remasters, but there's too many stuff that has to be ported that it is only meant for dedicated fanbases at this point. tbh the only perfect definitive remaster I can think of are the Kingdom Hearts ones (other than the handheld games that do not have multiplayer anymore or aren't ported)
it's the reason why I want Playstation to just make their own PS3 emulator for the PS5. Too many games have to be remastered.
Maybe it’s just me but am I only one starting to get remake fatigue I mean sure it preserves the original but it’s also killing off creativity in the AAA gaming field.
Nah
@@lazyvoid7107 Well if people enjoys these remakes then that’s great but for me personally I may just start supporting newer indie games that have coming out recently because AAA games are becoming so boring because of how risk-averse they becoming and the over reliance on remakes and ports.
You’re right, don’t listen to lazyvoid7107. The trend of remaking games that need fixing for “modern audiences” like silent hill, resident evil, and other classics etc is stupid. It’s completely changing the experience of the original because the remakes are never made by the same people and charging $60-$70 dollars for a game they know has a built in fanbase and wants a new ip is predatory and uncreative. They could port the originals, they don’t though for these reasons.
@@justmundane I completely agree with everything you said and I genuinely do not understand why people go nuts over remakes because not only does it kill creativity in the AAA game field but the remakes tend to strip away the elements that make the original game so beloved in the first place.
For example I played Yakuza Kiwami 1 & 2 and while they were mildly entertaining I ultimately found the PS2 originals more interesting to play because of the scope and atmosphere of the original and I think the Kiwami remakes completely stripped away all of the charm that the PS2 games had and sadly most people ignore the original PS2 games due to how popular the Kiwami remakes are unfortunately.
So wait if I should not pre-order for limited run game how am I going to play the new remastered I love lollipop chainsaw I have the original on 360 how am I going to play the new remaster if I don't pre-order it
As long as the game is like it was? Im ok with it. Yet they did make him look fucking weird.
Look arguing remakes/remasters arent needed as a retro game fanatic is a really moot point. Everything the remake would offer is already something that wasnt going to be important for you. But that doesn’t mean its the case for everyone else.
Tons of people find old games visually glaring and annoying to navigate. Remakes fix that. And in the case of really old games it breathes new life in a familiar story.
Don't ask questions, just consoom product. And then get excited for next product.
@@NihilisticIdealist What a dumb take. Making people play an ugly game with dated gameplay just so you don't have to feel like a consumer. Buddy, you're consuming every single day. Embrace it.
@@NihilisticIdealistconsume*
Im starting to not mind the look. It's similar to how Leon changed slightly but the voice is just bad.
persona 3 reload is perfection
No
Preach brother, don’t let these boomers tell you otherwise 😂
absolutely not
@@dominicsmith1358p3 reload was made for p5 fans/casuals who can’t handle hard games… p3 went from being the hardest game in the persona series to the easiest smh
@@justmundane if you mean by hard, do you mean having no control over your party besides commands, and starting up fez with your compendium reset?, I played the original. I’m not gonna say it’s ass, but it wasn’t perfect. However, not having control of your party isn’t a difficult thing, it’s just management of seeing which if your party members have the right skills, often feeling like you have no control over your party, even p1 and p2 let you control your party and p1 isn’t even that hard until you do late game. Smt games aren’t even that hard if you have a basic understanding of mechanics and then just grind
I'll just say this, this is strange, I say the dead rising characters are ugly no so ugly some of them, some are not looks like beauty like jessica... but since dead rising style it's an ugly style that didn't awkward, now they have an ugly style that feel awkward ( i don't like that design choice to make jessica had ugly mouth so smiliar of the ugly mouth had the main character of mass effect andromeda... seriously, how is it possible, I say there are artists who know how to make something ugly that doesn't bother and don't feel awkward, when it is not done that way when capcom his pulling blober team uglyness well more like using ugly awkward style, we have Capcom video games supervised with had nowa non-artistic vision, it is ugly and uncomfortable... I miss the ugly styles that do not feel uncomfortable, we are in times where there is a lot of ugly style without charm... Capcom need hire people who are real artists to supervise these types of old games, especially true fans who have an intuition and sense of self-awareness that does not lead to doing something that feels terrible and take critizise of the real fans
Hey guys should I buy dead rising 2 or 2 off the record
off the record is generally the way to go - it improves some things from dr2, has more content like a new area and combo cards, and also allows for a much sillier time since it's frank and not canon to the series. if you like frank from dr1 and photography, get off the record. normal dr2 is GOOD, and should definitely be played on it's own, but really only if you care about the plot. the plot is much more serious in dr2 cause it's canon, and not played for laughs like off the record. both are generally vry good games, and do have certain elements that change up the endings/how the plot happens, so in the long run if you really want more out of the characters, I'd play both, but if you dont care abt the overall franchise's plot and just want shit to do, I'd do off the record. both are roughly 5 dollars rn on the summer steam/capcom sale
Buy the PC version if you can Xbox and PS remaster versions are trash.
0:51 Dr 1-2- otr aren’t backwards compatible on Xbox one / series x
Deluxe remaster = remake
7:45 “beautiful story” bruh
7:38 Wait what, Life is Strange was always dog shit though?
nah
You give them money, you'll keep rewarding this behavior.
also The "release remaster to build interest in a new sequel" excuse is also a lie, the outcome is always a monkey's paw wish
Play the original, skip the remaster.
Shut up bait kid
@@lazyvoid7107 He's right, you consooming Zoomoid.
@@NihilisticIdealistconsuming*
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poeple who say that piracy is preservation dont think about the people who actually create these games
It's about preserving the thing itself, if it's not preserved then it would likely not exist in a playable form in the future and could become lost media. The creators do not matter
@@infravalktexas if its no longer available or no longer playable then sure download with reckless abandon
but if it is still fully available and easily playable on modern hardware then piracy should be discouraged
these are devs that put years of their lives into their projects and they deserve compensation
without the creators you wouldn't have anything to preserve
think about that when you decide to take away their well deserved paychecks
@@thekillersandvich1150Whack nonsense. You think the peoples behind this re-re-release are the creators of the game ? Inafune doesn't even make games anymore. Like all of the teams and peoples that made the games that Capcom milk, they left a decade ago. Are you thinking about them then ? I'm very much thinking about Silent Team when I install the Enhanced Edition of SH2. And I still think about Evolution who was killed by Sony (and not pirates :3) when I emulate Motorstorm. Piracy has 0 impact on revenues, especially for theses enormous publishers. The case of Tango being closed by Microsoft despite being a success prove it.
Another case of vilifying something you don't understand. That's not how paychecks works, that's not how this whole industry work. Don't shift the blame.
@@wakba6038 emulation is a completely different beast and not something I was talking about
emulation of older titles is not piracy that is preservation
downloading modern titles is piracy and actively hurts the industry
also just because this isn't the original staff doesn't mean that the remake/master staff doesn't deserve to get paid for their work
piracy is 100% the cause of studios closing
when not enough copies are sold people arent given their bonuses
the success of a game might even mean the growth or closure of a studio
yes hifi rush was great and sold well but it didn't sell well enough for Microsoft so they shut them down
piracy 100% had an effect in that since it was day and released on PC
@@thekillersandvich1150 But who is talking about pirating this new version ? Only you.
Hifi Rush not selling "well enough" isn't because of piracy or peoples not buying the game, it's about Microsoft wanting more and more. The game didn't sell "well enough" ? Lol, for MS the total budget of this game is like two hours of earnings from the game pass subscriptions.
Again, the cause of studios being closed left and right isn't piracy at all, only gullible peoples think that. It's because this industry is in shamble, the monopoly is out of control, we are now living in a world where 90% of the studios are either bought by Microsoft, Sony or Embracer, while the developers are deprived of their rights.
This is the problem. Piracy means nothing in 2024. This industry hurt itself with greed and no ethic whatsoever.
"emulation of older titles is not piracy that is preservation "
So, you get to decide what is ok and what is not ? If only it was this simple.
"piracy 100% had an effect in that since it was day and released on PC"
Yeah sure, I heard this one 20 years ago, pc users destroying gaming with piracy, now everyone port their games to pc. 😆