The Battle of Orewin Bridge 1282 AD
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Things I've learned from watching these battle videos:
1) Scout the area
2) No for real, scout the area
3) Don't get flanked
Leave at least more than a few men to guard the bridge maybe aswell?
Keith Kelso agreed. Half the battles on this channel end either because they don’t scout the battle or they get abandoned by half their army
1) Never loot the camp before the battle is over
2) Don't pursue the enemy if he is on horse or could have hidden an ambush detachment
3) Don't celebrate before the enemy is defeated
@@JamesHussey404 It's easy for us to say these things because we see an overhead view of the battle. When you're there on the field, with long distances and landscape features obscuring the view of your enemy, you don't know if the force that's coming from the north has 1/2 of your enemy's forces or 7/8 of them including the heavy cavalry (in which case, had forces been left to guard the bridge, would have resulted in the northern force being overwhelmed most likely). The really important thing is good awareness of territory, good scouting, and good lines of communication with which to relay back scouting reports.
Also have reserves so that you can respond to flanks
"Llywelyn rested-"
Me, having seen a BazBattles video before: Bad move buddy.
Defends bridge. Ignores ford.
"You fool! You fell victim to one of the classic blunders!"
@@hellsonion514 The welsh were unaware of the ford afaik
Yahya Chothia because he made another classic Bazbattles mistake: he didn’t scout the area
-Ignores the ford
-Doesn't scout the area
-Rests
That campaign looked grimm indeed
You really know the world is coming to an end when a BazBattles video isn't sponsored by Raid: Shadow Legends.
lmao
LOL.
No sponsor is better than FootMouse.
Pretty it has to be said entirely in full caps.... "RAID!!!!SHADOW LEGENDS!!!!!"
@@NeilABliss Oh right, and I also forgot to bold it. *RAID! SHADOW LEGENDS*
Ten things I learned from Bazbattles:
1. Don't provoke people called Edward
2. Don't support an English rebellion
3. Don't undermine your prince who is clearly trying to help you
4. Scout the area
5. Do not rest in a town if your name starts with an L
6. NEVER trust people called Mortimer
7. Guard the bridge
8. Enemies can cross bridges so guard the fucking bridges
9. A little bird told me to guard the bridge
10. Don't jump into the Thames from the Tower of London
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It's worth mentioning that in the building of the Iron Ring to supress the Welsh, Edward embarked on one of the largest building projects of the entire middle ages, and Wales remains the 'castle capital of the world.' Conwy in particular is staggering, as much of the town wall is still intact and has been called one of the best example of preserved high medieval archetecture in Europe. King Edward had the foresight to see that in the future we could do with a bloody good few tourist attractions.
"Independence of wales will be decided"? Guess I know how this ends lol
ICrazySkills conquered
Rebelled
Conquered
Rebelled
Conquered
Rebelled .
It’s a duet we know well
We came for the journey. Not the end.
Shhht, no spoilers.
Wales became independent at around 1400 for 7-15 years after a rebellion lead by owain glyndwr. And is partially independent now as wales has its own government and is a country. You could also argue that wales invaded england under henry vii so technically wales was independent and the rulers of britain in his lifetime.
@@Jake-pm3pz that battle goes on and on. The Welsh move to Canada and become Union business agents, and the Brits that aren't allowed in the private boys' schools move to Canada, become lawyers, and the fight in on. again.
Never understood that mindset. You have a leader who is doing everything in their power to keep the country from being conquered by an outside kingdom, yet the nobility actively are trying to undermine the king's ability to protect them.
"Tragedy of the commons" explains at last half of that. (i.e. short sighted/term self interest can be self harming.)
The concept of a national identity was not so strongly ingrained as it is now. A Royal bloodline and its authority was only as strong as the force of arms that backed it up.
A leaders job is largely to keep the nobles happy, lest they get replaced. Just because he was trying to protect the kingdom doesn’t mean he was good at keeping his nobles happy.
They were democrat socialists.
Nationality meant next to nothing back then, loyalty was to the local lord and that loyalty was based on that lord’s personal interest
Wow! Some great battles have happened on bridges:
battle of Stamford bridge
Battle of Milvian bridge
Batlle of Orewin bridge
Saving private Ryan??
Battle of Stirling bridge too.
Sometimes history is just hilarious to learn about. "We don't like our leader, so we'll invite the big guy to take over and he'll definitely let us keep our lands"...
(queue spongebob "x hours later")
"Oh no, we don't keep our lands, the big guy is strict with us time to revolt!"
Some historic leaders just sound like their skulls were full of bags of bricks.
And people keep asking why we teach history in schools. Well, these guys never had any history lessons 😁
@@sjonnieplayfull5859
"But what experience and history teach, is that people and governments never learned anything from history."
- Hegel
Portuguese nobility did exactly the same and they didn't like it when they knew that the Iberian Union was not meant for their benefit but for their downfall.
@@AGS363 'anything' is quite a big word. Usualy people think they are smarter, better, and generaly can't fail. Especialy at companies that sell physical labour you can find paper tigers who know everything, yet have no idea what sweat smells like... but when asked, they will gladly explain why they are vital and their 3x workfloor salary is actualy way too low. The basic flaw is not being able to see/ acknowledge one's own mistakes/ errors.
@@AGS363 History is literally just Guy A has a big army and takes over. Guy B doesnt like guy A so he gets an army and kills guy A, then guy C kills guy B and so on and so forth. Emporers, Rulers, Kings and crap, they changed more often than underwear.
Oh cool let's see if Wales becomes a independent country
Edited: Nope
@Lovecraft Actually King Brian Boru of Munster and eventually High king of Ireland united Ireland under him for just under a decade before his death at the battle of Clontarf.
@@JamesHussey404 Didn't Owain Gwenydd unite the entirety of Wales in the 1150s and 1160s? Or did he not quite get all of it?
@Lovecraft But your point doesn't stand. 😂
@@SRosenberg203 I don't know much or anything about Welsh history so I don't know.
@@JamesHussey404 I definitely responded to the wrong person. I meant to respond to Lovecraft.
Ooh, are we going to have a series on Edward I? We've had Evesham, and now this.
Well, I'm excited. One of the most militarily brilliant kings of England finally getting his time in the limelight.
And he had his reputation tarnished by one Hollywood film! XD
@@SamuelHallEngland Those who would judge men based on Holywood are themselves not to be respected.
Samuel Hall I’m not too sure that reputation “is” tarnished. McGoohan portrays a decisive competence. Edward One was far from my favourite monarch, mainly due to Evesham, but people who have specialised in the period tend to have a better opinion of him. Strangely enough, Magna Carta owes its position largely due to his efforts. It was about time you yobboes did “something” properly! lol
Baltu Lielkungs Gunārs Miezis he did mess up badly at Lewes when he smashed the rebel flank and chased their remnants, missing the whole battle. Though I do like him, he seems to be a pretty cool King
I have the feeling, that this was an accurate depiction of the historical event. Medieval cavalry were a little like the tanks of today and the infantry back then were unprofessional farm levies.
Reacting to a flank? Smart.
Totally ignoring the bridge while doing so? Facepalm.
I think it's a problem of command-structure and discipline etc. You need well trained officers for detailed tactics - this wasn't common in this ages I guess. So the best ideas of the leaders are nothing (if the would have them), if there is no way to execute them.
This view of the battle is largely constructed. There are no primary sources and it is generally believed that Llywelyn was killed before the battle commenced
Henry III is like the Tytos Lannister of the English Dynasty, and Edward is Tywin.
So de montforts are raynes
Would Jaime or Tyrion be Edward II?
@@SamuelHallEngland Edward II was similar disapointment for Longshanks as Tyrion was for Tywin. Btw relationship between Longshanks and his wife eleanor of castile is similar to Tywin and joanna
@@ksodz1397 Yes Tyrion and Edward II both being into reading and the arts, whilst being terrible at combat and gathering respect! That said, England did well under Edward II, and I don't want to draw upon Hollywood films too heavily!
@@SamuelHallEngland well portrayal of both Edwards in braveheart is terrible. Edward II was actually rather unlucky than bad king
Last time I was this early Wales was an independent country
Colin Adams we will be
@@ereynolds72 Good luck. How did that work out for Northern Ireland or Scotland?
alpha helix it hasn’t as of yet as independence hasn’t been achieved. But if you have your ear down to the ground on uk politics for the past 10 years you can see the change is coming. It’ll be an interesting time coming forward. Scotland’s already made a run for it, then they got lied to by parliament, so the independence movement there has really picked up steam again
@Sir Knight Errant 1: He literally said in the video that year was the last time Wales was completely independent and 2: wales is a country now, but it isnt independent, much in the same way that neither is Scotland, NI, or England
@Sir Knight Errant this dude gets his sources reliably and maybe if you weren't such a quick to insult douche you'd realize I was just clarifying that, not questioning you. But hey, at least your username checks out ya prick.
Spoiler Alert:
"Hello, is anyone gonna stay back and hold the bridge? No? Guess we're screwed."
Spearmen, no less. Against cavalry. What, were they pointing their spears up to the sky or something?
Honestly how do 7,000 men just all forget about the bridge that they were holding 💀🤦🏼♂️
I guess most (if not all) of the Welsh spearmen would have been irregulars, and it's relatively hard to stay where you are and not go to face a new threat, even if it doesn't require all of you.
The only other example of this that jumps to mind is the Battle of Midway. I can't think of any others, but I'm sure that they're there.
@@ChrisDynamo Actually, spear walls are how you counter cavalry. You just can't get flanked and they got flanked.
@@Schmidty1 Watch the video, the spearmen were attacked head on by the cavalry and broke.
Lord Mortimer: *Hello there.*
Llywellen: General Mortimer!
You are a bold one !
Llywelyn: General Mortimer, you are a bold one
This is incorrect. He didn't die during the battle. He was travelling away from his main army with a small group of retainers and priests (some historians claim, on the way to a parley) when he was ambushed by english knights. Initially his body wasnt recognised but when the truth was revealed, mortimer sent llywelyn's head to london, where it was one of the first to be mounted on london bridge. I believe the english put a crown of ivy leaves or lilies on his head, proclaiming 'prince of wales'
Welsh Partisan damn
@plentyness I have just as much english blood as welsh boio. And I'm just repeating what ive read. I'm just interested in the story. They all did dreadful things back then, welsh princes had a bad reputation as well, no politics intended. History doesnt care about your feelings my friend.
for the record i never said england evil. And if you dont believe the english kings put heads on london bridge, then you havent read a lot into the period
@plentyness Welsh Partisan’s comment is accurate. A brief google search will confirm it.
Should have just auto-resolved.
haha true
probably still lose
@@Hatsimmale Who knows, maybe that spear levy RNG would save the day.
czcams.com/video/5UIteDF4eII/video.html Thank me later.
@@Hatsimmale yiridan is the best.
Thank you for covering my country's history, I love your content and please can you cover the Battle of Bryn Glas?
By the Cymru King: Owain Glyndwr!
@Jae Zuko-Mee Wohendum now its more anglo-normans
@Jae Zuko-Mee Wohendum what are you?
You forgot to mention when Longshanks said: "What is the problem of Wales? Is it that is full of welsh."
Did Longshanks not speak in french?
@@alexanderd8740 that wouldnt change what he said though would it.
@@MikeBrin96 I think the point being made was something along the lines of England has had many kings but never an English king, Normans slaughtered their way around these islands , including hundreds of thousands of ENGLISH! !!!!!!!!! Why would you not expect the indigenous people to fight against a foreign invasion
@@tyronekelly2462 you have to remember that English was not even heard of until the Germanic languages mixed with the romantic language.
English is a culmination.
England was a hotbed of Danish, saxons, Britons and exen celts the common folk only cared who ruled over them when their homes were in danger or taxes were to unforgiving. Peasant revolts are generally limited to overthrow the particular ruler of an estate not to take on the country itself.
@@MikeBrin96 funny that the group whos name became england wasnt listed
So refreshing seeing a battle featuring the Welsh - often overlooked .
There have been more battles fought per square mile in Wales than any other region of Britain.
*Edit*
8:08 The battles of *Moel y Don* and *Llandeilo* are in the wrong places 😬
*flanks you with several hundred footmen and archers*
"Nothing personnel kid."
NANI
@@chrisresnikoff1741 stfu weeb
The graphics of this video are the equivalent of visual asmr triggers.
@CemtecUk yikes
Next Welsh battles: Owain Glyndwr!
Battle of Bryn Glas when?
The taking over of Conwy Castle!
Yes please !👍🏴
Who doesn't love a new BazBattles video
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@@kennykeating5243 did people really just have notifications on to dislike the video??
I love the content this channel covers, particularly the ones involving Welsh history which are very interesting. Always looking forward to the next upload, thanks.
If you like historical fiction, you should check out a series written by Sharon Kay Penman about Welsh and English history; the first book is called "Here Be Dragons" and covers the life of Llywelyn Fawr (grandfather of the Llywelyn from this video) and his conflicts with the English Throne. The second book covers Simon de Montfort's life and rebellion (from the videos on the Battle of Lewes and the Battle of Evesham), and the third covers the Llywelyn from this video, called "Llywelyn the Last" since after his death Wales was basically subsumed into England and was no longer independent.
They're a great set of books, and if you're interested in the period I'd definitely recommend checking them out. She also has some other books about the life and reign of Henry II, and two books about Richard the Lionheart during the Third Crusade.
Sam Rosenberg I’ll be sure to check them out, thanks for the recommendation!
@Chris Wings It You've got it backwards. King John's father was King Henry II, whose father was Geoffrey Plantaganet. He ruled frmo 1199 to 1216, his son Henry III ruled from 1216 to 1272 I believe, and then HIS son (John's Grandson) Edward Longshanks became King when Henry III died.
You're right that Llewllyn Fawr married Joan/Joanna, King John's illegitimate daughter, but that was like 50 years before Longshanks was born.
@Chris Wings It No worries, we all mix some shit up sometimes.
Love those tiny little boxes crossing the bridge and reforming at its end
Another great video, thank you Baz!
oh i enjoy seeing a new fresh video from a good history channel, that is not corrupted by hatriot, fashism, sozialdarwinism, anti judaism, maskulinity fetish etc..
ty so much for keeping this channel going!
Fantastic video. Thank you.
Llewellyn: Will you accept us as an independent Welsh state?
Edward Longshanks: Well yes, but actually no
many english nobles did recognise us mind you
Your videos are the best. Thanks!!!
Really enjoyed that, but at 8:06 you have got the battles mixed up. Battle of Llandeilo was in the South, and Moel-Y-Don up North.
Your vids one of the reason keeps me sane in quarantine
Thanks for another history BazBattles!
I really enjoy these videos!
Would really love to see Ww2 operations explained like this.
Im always so excited when I see a BazBattles upload, no matter the topic, I start celebrating like a kid in a candystore!
Now this is early
I really enjoy these videos, they're a relief during these times of hardship
Keep up the good work!!!!
Thanks for a wonderful video!
Great videos can't wait to see more thank you for the great story telling
this is the video i wanna watch while starting my day, ty.
lesser known battles that I have little knowledge of. Thank you Baz Battles.
Last time i was this early Alexander was still alive
These are so awesome.
Well done. Very good explanation. Thank you!
Can't wait to get another BB video. Just like watching a good war movie.
If you guys haven’t yet, you should consider covering the Mongol conquest. Thanks for the content!
My quarantine depression went away! Thank you!
@Free Spirited You are not true to your username.
7:58 - "They managed to win several battles by ambushing over-confident english commanders..." The history of england since millennia.
sounds more like french knights to me
Sounds like the French than the English if you've learnt both countries history
@@SandileNgwenya-gv7nx both then
the kind of channel where you like the video right away, you just know it's gonna be high quality :)
I love this channel!!!
Wooo! Super excited for this to turn into a Longshanks series. Fingers crossed.
if my early-1990s high school history teacher had simply played one of these videos per day... i may well have ended up in an entirely different career. i was simply bored with history until some 20 years later. Great channel. Thank you.
So happy no raid is here.
Well my day just went from crap to good. Thanks BB
@bazbattles is there a generally accepted system for the symbols you use. As in rectangle with a cross or just a diagonal line for size of a unit or type? Where could I learn more about this system for the symbols?
You make some great videos. I find them quite gripping
Great video! Are u gonna continue/finish some of your past series soon? Like sengoku jidai one, or the Game of trones one. Loved those.
Arguably the best unknown 70's Rock song was written about this called 'Llylwelyn' by New Riders of The Purple Sage. It is a chilling, mystical sounding song and I highly recommend listening to it.
That was a really cool and Visually pleasing way to show that that bridge crossing was a time consuming and encumburing thing
If my math is correct, Edward I is my 26th great-grandfather. I love learning the history of this period.
Nice video.
Love from Greece.
Insurrection - the National pastime of Wales.
Also betraying your brother.
Try being invaded by a foreign power sometime.
@@bujin1977 - I live in Scotland. Here, they know well what it's like to suffer English invasion.
@@badhippo So then you live in a country whose national pastime is also insurrection. As well it should be.
OMG YOURE BACK
Hey, BazBattles, I would love to see more Game of Thrones battles, or even Warhammer Fantasy. Keep up the good work!
1:49 Looks like Dafydd didn’t get any of the good genes...
Very informative and interesting
Cheers big ears
Nice new video!
*The war to decide Welsh indpendence is about to begin*
When the vid starts with a spoiler so you're not mad about scrolling the comments early
Thanks - Im learning a lot about my own history. Scots seem to know far more about their own Medieval battles.
i like that bazbattles is doing an entire series of Edward Longshanks battles
At one point you should really consider making a short series on the naval battles/achievements of Admiral Yi Sun Shin of Korea against the Japanese. A truly remarkable historical figure with some of the modt insanw battles I’ve ever heard of.
Love it.
I like your channel. You work without making any fuss.
My day is now complete!
Yes! Another Wales v England battle.
the day is on hold
0 views, 48 likes. That's how good BazBattles is
10 min later 2 views 470, likes 2 dislikes
Dude are you ever going to continue your sengoku jidai, or something like that, series?
Never stop making videos.
What software do you use for the army movements and battles?
3:30 Does that Crusade happen to be the same one mentioned in the Mamluk-Ilkhanate Wars episode of K&G's Mongols series?
@Brantius Riximium It was the Ninth Crusade. I'm not sure if it was against the Mamluks, but I think it was, given that it took place in the late 1260s and early 1270s.
The 9th crusade which resulted in failure and annexation of Outremer by the mamluks
CuriosityStream is pretty good, had it for ages. Even better now kids are being home schooled.
BAZ IS KING
BazBattles is awesome, and I'm leaving a comment (I never leave comments) because the comment shows at support for your channel.
Now I really want to see videos about the Scottish Rebellions with William Wallace and Robert the Bruce. Also, I'd love to watch videos about the Irish fighting against the English and recapturing most of their land back.
I'm a simple man. I see a new BazzBattle video, I click on it, I like it and I grab a snack to watch it.
👋👏👏👏👌 wonderful job 🥇
I love these videos but I have one complaint. The notes at the end of many are written in a brown script that disappears into the background and although I can read fairly quickly - they are flashed by so quickly, I miss out on most of the information.
More.... we want MORE!!!!!
I would love to see you make a video for the battle of Breitenfeld during the Thirty Years' War
You know the way it's going any time he says, "thus.." 😂
Your too good to me Baz 👍
I'm positive I am not the first to say this, but it must be said:
I highly, highly, _highly_ recommend you cover over the battle of Cannae, in the Second Punic War!
Yes,new video from Baz Battles.But can you do Game of Thrones or World War II series.Who's agree like
Jeez, alliances really changed with the wind over there back then (after watching the first 2 videos as well)
Edward at 13:00
"Is it a national sport"?
Me of Welsh descent: "We can make it one, Longshanks."
Can't wait for Stirling bridge
Cool video, had no idea. At the same time Easter of 1282 the Sicilians rebelled against the French
I read a good novelization about this exact period called The Reckoning by Sharon Kay Penman. It seems to have very good reviews, so if you have time on your hands...