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Mass Effect 3 - Wrex finds out that cure for the genofage was fake

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  • čas přidán 27. 05. 2012
  • This is what happens some time after you decide to sabotage the cure for the genofage on Tuchanka, in order to get salarians' support.

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  • @billyclark6187
    @billyclark6187 Před 3 lety +1610

    “I thought you were my friend!” Damn that hits hard.

    • @trisagion8451
      @trisagion8451 Před 3 lety +38

      The moment he said that I wish Wrex did blow my head off, hell I deserve it at this point

    • @iagograndal285
      @iagograndal285 Před 2 lety +15

      On that point, I let him blow the head of my Shepard, I couldn't stand more betrayal to Wrex, who might be like your old brother at that point

    • @yourdude9942
      @yourdude9942 Před 2 lety +11

      @@iagograndal285 always felt like Wrex is Shepards older brother and Garrus is the young one. Just my favorite Squad.

    • @SomeKindOfTease
      @SomeKindOfTease Před 2 lety +2

      Real Hard man.

    • @jameswatsonatheistgamer
      @jameswatsonatheistgamer Před rokem +5

      I cured the genoohage and I would do it again.

  • @preasidium13
    @preasidium13 Před 3 lety +5586

    This isn’t even renegade anymore, it’s just evil

    • @madcap3450
      @madcap3450 Před 3 lety +436

      Also makes no sense in the reality mass effect takes place in. I get shepherd is the protagonist but your telling me a human soldier without armor can 1v1 and win against a 600lb krogan battlemaster fully armed and armored who is also biotic and nearly 900 years old all of which was spent honing his combat skills? Yeah no I call bs

    • @preasidium13
      @preasidium13 Před 3 lety +328

      @@madcap3450 tbf, shepherd is practically a cyborg made from reaper tech, so I think it evens out a bit

    • @madcap3450
      @madcap3450 Před 3 lety +90

      @@preasidium13 Is it confirmed reaper tech was used in rebuilding shepherd

    • @preasidium13
      @preasidium13 Před 3 lety +49

      @Neria Wolf Its definitely possible that I’m mistaken. I always thought the Lazarus project used reaper tech similar to that employed in husks

    • @zer0sgaming618
      @zer0sgaming618 Před 3 lety +31

      @@madcap3450 it has never been confirmed that they didn't use reaper tech in rebuilding shepard

  • @82dorrin
    @82dorrin Před 3 lety +3774

    The renegade choices in Mass Effect 1 and 2 tended to be either badass, or harsh but defensible. The renegade choices in Mass Effect 3 were mostly just fucking evil.

    • @Vanessa_exe
      @Vanessa_exe Před 3 lety +401

      its one of the worst parts about mass effect 3. the writing is just the weakest. like they finally fixed the gameplay problems, made the game smooth, expanded on armour and struck a nice balance between the loot of one and narrow range of guns and upgrades in 2. but the writing just seems to have fell through, only good things are holdovers from the previous entries like Mordin singing scientist salarian.

    • @Berek71182
      @Berek71182 Před 3 lety +220

      @@Vanessa_exe Agreed. ME3 was an epic Experience, but below the surface there is either bad or inconsistent writing. Wrex cutscene-incompetence + the final rannoch decision are the worst.
      And let's not talk about the terrible space-ninja, casey hudson greatest failure from the books.

    • @MikasaAckermann831
      @MikasaAckermann831 Před 3 lety +23

      @@Berek71182 what's wrong with the final rannoch decision

    • @Berek71182
      @Berek71182 Před 3 lety +144

      @@MikasaAckermann831 Difficult to describe, but Legion's Death seem forced and unneccasay after the upload. In contrast for Mordins Death, the player got at least an explanation (STG sabotage->overheating-> explosion), making it very plausible. It's also unbelieviable that Raan/tali aren't doing anything to stop Shepard + Legion from the upload, just arguing and standing around. And deciding against the Geth, Legion easily throws Shepard around like a toy, a feat not even Saren (how got ounched to the face) or Wrex (a 400-600 pound battlemaster) are able to do in cutscene, although both are much stronger than a human size geth plattform.

    • @Raptor302
      @Raptor302 Před 3 lety +132

      I did a ME2 playthrough doing straight renegade options/no paragon triggers. Refusing medigel to a dying Salarian during Thane's recruitment mission was the most evil moment in the whole trilogy.

  • @AMysticLegend
    @AMysticLegend Před 3 lety +527

    FemShep: why would I betray you wrex?
    "Looks like a female emperor Palpatine"

  • @rick2402
    @rick2402 Před 3 lety +2857

    Mad props to the developer for even putting this in as a possibility

    • @Dichotomic_King
      @Dichotomic_King Před 3 lety +63

      too bad they didn't fix all the other issues with the plot in the legendary edition

    • @ericb8689
      @ericb8689 Před 3 lety +45

      So how about my game glitched and this scene played for me even though the real cure was used so I was just mad confused as to what was happening lol

    • @theanarchyknight8456
      @theanarchyknight8456 Před 3 lety +17

      @@ericb8689 Did you tell Wrex about the transmission offering you to sabatoge the cure?

    • @SniperDizzyJohny
      @SniperDizzyJohny Před 3 lety +6

      Small escenes in the game were empírical better than the 2 hours of linear ending

    • @stellarm9882
      @stellarm9882 Před 3 lety +20

      @Sez B Mordin was already regreting, not curing it in mass effect 2 though .

  • @CedarHunt
    @CedarHunt Před 3 lety +4494

    This should have been an end scene. Wrex just blows your head off and that's it. You betrayed a brother, you deserve it.

    • @juanfdezfano8576
      @juanfdezfano8576 Před 3 lety +129

      Fcking yes bro

    • @keeks8441
      @keeks8441 Před 3 lety +220

      Or make the war on earth twice as hard. Double the brutes and everything.

    • @StoneOfChaos7
      @StoneOfChaos7 Před 3 lety +61

      It's not my brother. It's the exception of a race that i do not trust.

    • @jerichohartweich8191
      @jerichohartweich8191 Před 3 lety +268

      @@StoneOfChaos7 smells like brother betrayal up in here

    • @dracomight
      @dracomight Před 3 lety +16

      @@StoneOfChaos7 username fits

  • @DrCoomer_1
    @DrCoomer_1 Před 3 lety +1817

    "But I got your family armour"
    "Why the fuck would I care, you literally just killed my entire species"
    First time I got that option I genuinely thought I might save Wrex after making the choice to fake the genophage, honestly glad they made it a more real scenario.

    • @Zezlemetkun
      @Zezlemetkun Před 3 lety +237

      Shepard: But I got your family armour
      Wrex: okay I guess I'll give you a pass
      Shepard:...really?
      Wrex: NO!
      *Biotically throws Shepard into the sun*

    • @scarletpsychowolf3578
      @scarletpsychowolf3578 Před 3 lety +40

      So you pretty much ruined Mordin's grand moment

    • @joltman81
      @joltman81 Před 3 lety +81

      @@scarletpsychowolf3578 not only that, but I believe the only way you can sabotage the cure when Wrex is alive is to kill Morden...
      ME 3 renegade can be pretty evil

    • @walterloehrmann5213
      @walterloehrmann5213 Před 3 lety +36

      @@joltman81 It's save to sabotage it with Wreav in charge, especially when you destroyed the research in ME 2. You get both Salarian and Krogan support.

    • @DrCoomer_1
      @DrCoomer_1 Před 3 lety

      @@scarletpsychowolf3578 on like my 4th play through yeah

  • @darriusskyler8493
    @darriusskyler8493 Před 3 lety +1014

    "Might have to space this one"
    Jesus. My conscious could never bring me to betray Wrex in the first place, but that line stings

    • @davidmccown6127
      @davidmccown6127 Před 3 lety +72

      You should see what happens if you kill him on Virmire. You can tell the salarians to leave his body to rot in the swamp

    • @ethanlynch908
      @ethanlynch908 Před 3 lety +91

      There is something fundamentally upsetting about the thought of Urdnot Wrex's corpse being jettisoned into the space outside the Citadel after he was shot dead by his supposed best friend and "saviour" of the Galaxy.

    • @thomasschmelzer7676
      @thomasschmelzer7676 Před 3 lety +80

      @@ethanlynch908 it’s rough man. Wrex was the fucking Paragon Shepard of the Krogan race, who had his idealism beaten and buried until Shepard relit it. To have him meet his end because you betrayed that trust, to end up just a frozen corpse orbiting the Citadel…game should just automatically end with a Reaper victory at that point.

    • @grantwithers
      @grantwithers Před 2 lety +6

      They really do treat krogan like space garbage.

    • @lavellelee5734
      @lavellelee5734 Před 2 lety

      @@thomasschmelzer7676 bruh I can imagine a couple storylines around this. 1 would be about this but it would be canon that the krogan cure is still possible but mordins race pulled a face one and exchanged it for a fake one, maybe have "former" members of the stg trick mordin. Then have that recording between the dalatras and shepherd but keep it vague as to what shepherd thought of the deal or even better have the version wrex got be a shorted cut version of it given to him by the stg, his other contacts. This way we can have shepherd scream " damn it wrex, get it through your thick krogan skull. You're my fucking brother, the hell would I betray you?! I'm cold yes but I am no monster and I'm no traitor! How many times have I save your life and vice versa?!" Wrex could reply with " then why didn't you say no to her?! You sure did sound very intrigued with her offer shepherd ". Shepard could say "I did god damnit" they both come out of cover. Wrex : then why-. Shepard: maybe your contacts aren't as thorough as you thought! And yes I should've told that cunt off sooner but for fucks safe can you blame me for being caught off guard? Her and the rest of the council have question my leadership, disrespected me as a person, a warrior, and insulted my race! And then later they do the same to you in front of me! Now all of sudden she wants to make nice with a bunch of ships I could have salvaged myself, but it's aimed to breakup the bond we spent years building and condemning a whole fucking species then eventually everyone else?!.
      We could also have mention of a krogan hit squad sent by wrexs brother and some of his more extreme but twisted supported, though honestly idk if anybody wants to read all that cuz I got two more ( one I just thought of) ideas to type down

  • @greenpinecone1859
    @greenpinecone1859 Před 3 lety +897

    Even the Devil is scared of the people who enjoyed this option

    • @seanchan7167
      @seanchan7167 Před 3 lety +117

      Devil: so yea we play ME3 too
      Player: you mean you also renegade on Wrex?
      Devil: the F*CK did you just say

    • @robpatterson3133
      @robpatterson3133 Před 3 lety +5

      Ya its some rough stuff

    • @candrian7
      @candrian7 Před 3 lety +17

      Gotta say just watching this scene made me feel a bit queasy.

    • @aiosquadron
      @aiosquadron Před 3 lety +7

      @@seanchan7167 (Insert super hell meme here)

    • @mcmillan20101
      @mcmillan20101 Před 3 lety +3

      IT WAS A PURE RENEGADE RUN OKAY. WE MADE OUT CHOICES

  • @ZeeNastee
    @ZeeNastee Před 3 lety +2009

    I'd rather kill Wrex on Virmire than do this, this is just sick.

    • @bradley8867
      @bradley8867 Před 3 lety +40

      Or just don’t recruit him 😎

    • @leoniee1545
      @leoniee1545 Před 3 lety +108

      ikr. "You were my friend once!" just breaks my heart.

    • @dimbasz
      @dimbasz Před 3 lety +14

      ​@@bradley8867 You can't avoid recruiting him tho, he goes with you after Saren either way.

    • @farringtonsamuel3413
      @farringtonsamuel3413 Před 3 lety +7

      @@dimbasz you can, if you don't recruit him , it is same as he is dead.

    • @IMaximusDMI
      @IMaximusDMI Před 3 lety +9

      @@leoniee1545 You were the chosen one!

  • @costagovan112
    @costagovan112 Před 3 lety +502

    I want you to know that no matter what happens, you've been a Champion to the Krogan people a friend of clan Urdnot and a brother to me. To every Krogan born after this day, the name Shepard will mean HERO!

    • @bobbywinicher9080
      @bobbywinicher9080 Před 2 lety +40

      YUP doing this is FAR more worth.

    • @tenjenk
      @tenjenk Před 2 lety

      This should have been wrex going on a rampage when confronting us, ending up with him killing C Sec members including Bailey (taking a big hit to readiness) and overpowering Shep, having them dead to rights with a gun to their face. Telling them that they were once family but now they aren't even worth killing, the greatest insult in his culture, before walking away. There could have even had a renegade option to shoot him in the back, where Shep's weapon malfunctioning if they attempt it.

    • @jameswatsonatheistgamer
      @jameswatsonatheistgamer Před rokem +2

      I did that today. But with wrex thus time around

    • @blueturtle3623
      @blueturtle3623 Před 4 měsíci

      Thank you for reminding us of that moment during a scene of it being obliterated before our very eyes.

  • @Asteel94231
    @Asteel94231 Před 3 lety +616

    Renegade shep would probably say something like ," I have brought peace and justice to my new empire".

    • @Dahhwoo
      @Dahhwoo Před 3 lety +73

      Wrex: You’re new empire? My allegiance is to the Krogan !

    • @spacejesus6581
      @spacejesus6581 Před 3 lety +69

      "I have brought peace, freedom, justice, and security to my new Empire"
      "Your new what now?"
      "Don't make me kill you"
      "Shepard my allegiance is to the Krogan, to fertility!"
      "If you are not with me, then you're my enemy"
      "You're finally sounding Krogan, too bad you're just a human Pyjak"

    • @LegacyRO3
      @LegacyRO3 Před 3 lety +7

      @@spacejesus6581 you win! 😂

    • @GL12878
      @GL12878 Před 3 lety +9

      Renegade shep wouldn't do this. Renegade shep will often do dirty deeds to get the job done. This isn't getting the job done, this is just evil.

    • @spacejesus6581
      @spacejesus6581 Před 3 lety +6

      @@GL12878 defending himself from Wrex after he finds out that the cure he was promised was fake, when the cure was sabatoged either out of fear the Krogan would rebel again or specifically for the extra Salarian support isn't evil

  • @icephoenixreaper4378
    @icephoenixreaper4378 Před 6 lety +1054

    Man I feel bad for Wrex after all he has been through and to know that Shepard did that hell I would have totally tried to kill Shepard and the salarians for backstabbing the KROGANS ANY DAY

    • @asarishepard8171
      @asarishepard8171 Před 4 lety +15

      she stabbed him in the back, id go in like this too!

    • @silviogrijalva8801
      @silviogrijalva8801 Před 3 lety +13

      I don’t. His species is violent and lack self control.

    • @Eshtian
      @Eshtian Před 3 lety +42

      @@silviogrijalva8801 Wrex has literally been working to stop their bloodlust.

    • @Savagem8
      @Savagem8 Před 3 lety +34

      @@Eshtian Silvio is probably someone who skips dialogue and doesn't actually know whats going on half the time.

    • @dagothurik1815
      @dagothurik1815 Před 3 lety +11

      @@Savagem8 let’s be fair here, Wrex leans into threats of violence when he doesn’t get his way. I acknowledge the positives that the krogan have seen under his leadership but it doesn’t change their inherent aggression.
      Still cured the genophage so who cares really

  • @dmitrytannill7436
    @dmitrytannill7436 Před 3 lety +826

    I played this trilogy 10 times. I was angel, who helped everyone. I was a monster, who always chose red lines of dialogues. Kaiden killed Wrex on Virmire, just once. And never, NEVER killed Wrex in this scene. I never sabotaged the Genophage. Because he is like a seniour brother.

    • @thegreyeyedcat9142
      @thegreyeyedcat9142 Před 3 lety +45

      Before you go to the shroud and he tells you you’re like his sister... man he’s truly one of the best

    • @helpme2719
      @helpme2719 Před 3 lety +21

      Kaidan can shoot Wrex? I thought it was always Ashley that did that.

    • @silviogrijalva8801
      @silviogrijalva8801 Před 3 lety +6

      The genophage should be sabotaged. The krogan deserve to go extinct.

    • @MiniBlackWaltz
      @MiniBlackWaltz Před 3 lety +57

      @@silviogrijalva8801 see this here everyone
      This is what it looks like when someone is *wrong*

    • @dmitrytannill7436
      @dmitrytannill7436 Před 3 lety

      @@helpme2719 Yeah? Maybe, I don't remember now =)

  • @ArchiBarrel1991
    @ArchiBarrel1991  Před 3 lety +281

    I totally love how a video made 9 years ago suddenly became trending and started gathering dozens of views and comments.
    Thank you, ME Legendary Edition :D

    • @gumerzambrano
      @gumerzambrano Před 3 lety +1

      No Problem!

    • @theyrbaning4751
      @theyrbaning4751 Před 3 lety +2

      I literally searched "can it wait for a bit? Im in the middle of some callibration"

  • @aeronblack9249
    @aeronblack9249 Před 5 lety +653

    I could never bring myself to betray Wrex,
    I would’ve sabotaged the cure if his brood-brother Wreav was the clan leader

    • @bionmccool
      @bionmccool Před 3 lety +22

      That's the only way to keep Mordin alive too

    • @MasterChief-bz7vq
      @MasterChief-bz7vq Před 3 lety

      @@bionmccool
      Wrex its funny and hetter then mordin

    • @GothicElf68
      @GothicElf68 Před 2 lety +1

      @@bionmccool This...

    • @Kpimpmaster
      @Kpimpmaster Před 2 lety +6

      Wreav was an all the reasons for the Genophenge was created rolled into one

    • @scipioafricanus3324
      @scipioafricanus3324 Před 2 lety

      @@Kpimpmaster Yeah, and most Krogan are like Wreav, which is why no matter who is the leader, the genophage cure needs to be sabotaged.

  • @Arocalypse
    @Arocalypse Před 3 lety +38

    "why would i betray you rex?" *stares at him with hellfire shining through her cracked skin and eyes*

  • @fahimzahir9587
    @fahimzahir9587 Před 3 lety +357

    1:23 The anguished scream of anger, desperation, and deep betrayl that Wrex yells out as he charges Shepard is heartbreaking. This play through is never ever worth it lol. Usually a Krogan will charge with intent to kill and anger but Wrex's charge was filled with the pits of despair that his people will die because of the trust he placed in shepard.

    • @yunios862
      @yunios862 Před 2 lety +12

      He sounds like he's gonna cry it broke my heart 😭

    • @SNKGM
      @SNKGM Před 2 lety +9

      ikr? It is almost as if Wrex knew he was not brave enough to kill his friend on sight even after her/his betrayal, that he just wanted an explanation to see if Shepard was sure about that being the right choice, in which case would be better to die on her/his hands. The interesting thing is that Wrex will really have the opportunity to kill Shepard if you doubt on renegade quick time event, which can be interpeted as Shepard doubting about choosing to betray Wrex.

  • @Mr-Moron
    @Mr-Moron Před 3 lety +208

    I can hear the tears in his words. He hates doing this, but you betrayed him, he feels used.

    • @JGTheGamer
      @JGTheGamer Před 3 lety +14

      But in memento to the friendship you once had, he'll make this kill quick. Unfortunately it didn't turn out that way.

    • @iamblight707
      @iamblight707 Před 10 měsíci +1

      ​@@JGTheGamerHad it been anybody else, including his own brother he sacrificed to save you, he wouldn't be so generous.

  • @dreambim2446
    @dreambim2446 Před 3 lety +109

    "Might have to space this one". Damn. The disrespect.

    • @TillTheLightTakesUs
      @TillTheLightTakesUs Před 3 lety +10

      He doesn't know him, besides, wrex attacked shep in cold blood, and bailey respects shepard. it fits. nothing wrong here.

  • @connorlohse4097
    @connorlohse4097 Před 3 lety +116

    I didn’t even know this was possible. I honestly felt a little sick watching this. It’s so wrong, when you know how beautiful your friendship with Wrex can be.

  • @LanardP108
    @LanardP108 Před 3 lety +403

    This is why I can't do a Renegade playthrough. Wrex is one of my favorite characters, and Krogan one of my favorite races. I can't bring myself to screwing him over.

    • @countspider6488
      @countspider6488 Před 3 lety +18

      You can really only do full renegade is Wreav is in control, if he’s in charge then I have no problems sabotaging the genophage.

    • @usmcbandman
      @usmcbandman Před 3 lety +37

      @@countspider6488 likewise. I've never seen this cut-scene before because I only sabotage the cure if Wreav is in charge. And in that case, you almost have to, because he spends the whole time bragging about how he's going to lead the Krogan in a revenge-campaign against the council species.

    • @chriskoloski32
      @chriskoloski32 Před 3 lety +18

      Who says you cant be a renegade and help wrex.

    • @oxyman10
      @oxyman10 Před 3 lety

      There also is no real pay off, it would have been worth it if some unique incentives or weapons were included.

    • @Dasspapirfly
      @Dasspapirfly Před 3 lety +27

      You don't have to pick just renegade options though, I never go fully one way as some decisions are incredibly shortsighted for both paths and some renegade interrupts are too juicy too pass up on even if I'm trying to be good. Just picking top or bottom respectively feels a bit one dimensional imho.

  • @godknightomega
    @godknightomega Před 3 lety +319

    After the line of "It should've been this way back on Vermire but I made the mistake of trusting you, believing you were my friend".
    If Wrex had followed that up with "Maybe you were but that Shepard died a hero a long time ago".
    A line like that would hit me hard at least.

    • @trevalyan006
      @trevalyan006 Před 2 lety +23

      Ooh. I love it.
      Wrex: "Or maybe my friend the hero never came out of the Cerberus shithole that spawned you!"

    • @lavellelee5734
      @lavellelee5734 Před 2 lety +1

      @@trevalyan006 now that sounds good 👍

    • @antonyduhamel1166
      @antonyduhamel1166 Před 2 lety +12

      "It should have been this way back on Virmire, but I made the mistake of trusting you, believing you were my friend."
      "I was your friend on Virmire, Wrex."
      A grunt. "Maybe you were, but then you died. Whatever way they brought you back to life, it left out your humanity. Fitting, considering Cerberus was responsible for it."

  • @drg8687
    @drg8687 Před 3 lety +362

    I've played 1500 hours on ME 1, 2 and 3 combined and will never see this scenario play out because I am not an asshole.

    • @vastreya3092
      @vastreya3092 Před 3 lety +7

      I know right. Ive played about a 1000 myself and only ever managed to complete a Renegade playthrough on ME2, and I can say with confidence that I did not enjoy it lol. It was immensely difficult to complete; I really had to force it

    • @frisby7143
      @frisby7143 Před 3 lety +4

      I only did this once and that was only because I was doing a fail trilogy play through for shits and giggles

    • @Valkirth
      @Valkirth Před 3 lety +2

      same here,wrex is a bro,he deserves better than this.

    • @thribs
      @thribs Před 3 lety +2

      Same here. I see getting renegade points as a bad thing

    • @kyos8462
      @kyos8462 Před 3 lety

      Love this trilogy...but 1500 hours. Props 👏👏👏

  • @derektrammell911
    @derektrammell911 Před 3 lety +148

    Great scene, for the most tragic of reasons, but Wrex isn't dumb. Maybe rage would've blinded his rationality in the moment, but still, he's krogan. Five Carnifex shots, that's it? The confrontation is still good, but I would expect blood rage to kick in over Shepard's decision.

    • @Michael-Gill
      @Michael-Gill Před 3 lety +34

      He was done dirty by his best bro. So dirty that it doomed his entire race.
      Hard to fill a heart with rage when it's been flooded with that much sorrow.

    • @hm-mt3wj
      @hm-mt3wj Před 3 lety +33

      I mean, Carnifex's adverts are asking if you wished you had a Carnifex at your side, when faced with a charging Krogan

    • @ingamingpc1634
      @ingamingpc1634 Před 2 lety +1

      @@hm-mt3wj they made sure that this gun could stop a krogan

    • @RedDingo777
      @RedDingo777 Před 2 lety

      He was trying to die.

  • @heyitsDevriss
    @heyitsDevriss Před 3 lety +53

    its an insane amount of work to save wrex just to kill him in 3

    • @ianvaillancourt271
      @ianvaillancourt271 Před 3 lety

      It's a lot of work to save Wrex?

    • @kinorris1709
      @kinorris1709 Před 3 lety +5

      It isn't that hard.
      ME1:
      You either have high paragon/renegade and level up charm/intimidate to calm him, which, considering you only need 8 in charm/intimidate, you can get him with a small paragon/renegade allignment. You need 8 points in charm/intimidate to convince him. It's possible to unlock the ability to level to 8 charm with just the spectre bonus and the 10% paragon bonus, which you can get before even taking command of the Normandy due to the high number of points you get for the first few level ups and the plentiful opportunities for paragon dialogue. Same for the renegade/intimidate path.
      Alternatively you talk to him a few times between a few missions (don't even have to be main missions) and get his family arnor back, gaining his trust and making it much easier to convince him.
      ME3: with Wrex alive, sabotage the cure.
      How is that an insane amount of work? I got his ME1 armor quest after just getting Liara and completing a few side missions, cos I talked to my squad when I returned to the ship after looking around for them to see if they had anything.
      Like, I'd agree if it wasn't a pretty straightforawrd path to save him. if there were multiple failable quests involving his loyalty in ME1 and he could be part of the suicide run and get killed in 2 if disloyal or a victim of your choices not being good, there were multiple factors outside of his armor and/or paragon/renegade speech checks.
      There's only a few scenarios where he dies in ME1. Not completeing his quest locks you into needing to convince him via paragon/renegade speech check, which you can unlock by leveling into charm/intimidate after just a few minor/major choices. You kinda need to go through atleast a few major choices to unlock Virmire.

    • @cjahnel1021
      @cjahnel1021 Před 2 lety +1

      @@kinorris1709 don't even need the quest to get the armor in ME1 I found the damn thing just randomly exploring planets

  • @EndellionQT
    @EndellionQT Před 3 lety +105

    Shepard: Wrex
    Wrex: Shepard
    Glad that they included that, despite what came after.

  • @PS1-Hagrid
    @PS1-Hagrid Před 3 lety +31

    "Wouldn't you want a Carnifex at your side?"

  • @radecstark3191
    @radecstark3191 Před 3 lety +76

    Always convenient for plot when somehow shields are never up and krogans are easily shot

    • @rbrick3685
      @rbrick3685 Před 3 lety +7

      Iirc one of the books talked about this. Something about shields needing to be manually activated or something.
      I don’t know, but a like of dialogue would fix the confusion

    • @blindmessiah255
      @blindmessiah255 Před 3 lety +15

      But like…Krogans were a galactic threat at one point? Did the Turians just not think to use pistols!? lol

    • @derektrammell911
      @derektrammell911 Před 3 lety +9

      I was about to make a comment about this. Wrex isn't dumb. Maybe rage would've blinded his rationality in the moment, but still, he's krogan. Five Carnifex shots, that's it? The scene is still good, but I would expect blood rage to kick in over Shepard's decision.

    • @sigheyeroll
      @sigheyeroll Před 3 lety +13

      Shields and multiple organs are no match for plot bullets.

    • @funkyflow5877
      @funkyflow5877 Před 3 lety +20

      Admittedly the cutscene plot bullets always kill people in one shot
      Making wrex needing like five shots feel impressive

  • @jonatanschwindt8065
    @jonatanschwindt8065 Před 3 lety +62

    This is a cutscene i will never see in my playthroughs, along with the one that tali kills herself

    • @Colbio
      @Colbio Před 3 lety +5

      Had to use the default world state back when ME 3 first came out cause I lost my save.
      Fun fact, there's no way to save both Quarians and Geth with that default state. I replayed that last confrontation probably half a dozen times before letting the Geth go extinct, despite the fact I agreed with their plight. Helps that Legion wasn't around, I suppose.

    • @jonatanschwindt8065
      @jonatanschwindt8065 Před 3 lety +4

      @@Colbio legion's death is sad AF too

    • @rosdos100
      @rosdos100 Před 3 lety +1

      Lol I’m playing through the trilogy for the first time with the legendary edition (yes I’m old enough to have played the originals but didn’t) and got that one because I thought legion would call off the geth fleet and not destroy the quarians. Wrong lol. But at least the geth are a more dangerous and effective ally

    • @javiernegron2633
      @javiernegron2633 Před 3 lety +5

      i honestly underestimated the stupidity of Gerrel so i accidentally drove Tali to suicide during my first ME3 run.

    • @jonatanschwindt8065
      @jonatanschwindt8065 Před 3 lety

      @@javiernegron2633 ah, rookie mistake, if there is one thing you can never underestimate, is other people stupidity

  • @eleanorgreywolfe5142
    @eleanorgreywolfe5142 Před 3 lety +53

    I really like the parallels with Vermire except you can't talk yourself out of this one, which makes sense.

  • @Viper631
    @Viper631 Před 3 lety +148

    Shit... I could never go through with the sabotage. No matter how renegade I made Shepard. Anything that was bad for Wrex or Garrus I could never do.

    • @pacdrax
      @pacdrax Před 3 lety +1

      the... what now?

    • @Viper631
      @Viper631 Před 3 lety +3

      @@pacdrax I misspelled sabotage... whoopsie daisies

    • @YaMamasAss
      @YaMamasAss Před 3 lety +10

      I always do the Paragon ending to Garrus' mission in ME2 as well. It feels more compelling for him to realize that just gunning down someone in cold blood isn't him.

  • @ShadowedAgony
    @ShadowedAgony Před 3 lety +50

    This is actually one of my favorite scenes, I love how the Renegade speech option doesn’t work. We are so used to that being a solve all problems button but this time you couldn’t talk your way out of it.

  • @rbrick3685
    @rbrick3685 Před 3 lety +117

    My first play through I sabotaged the cure and when I was confronted with this scene I went: “Holy shit”.
    Huge props for BioWare for putting in a consequence for your action.

  • @ki22112345
    @ki22112345 Před 3 lety +17

    god its easy to forget how insanely different some playthroughs can go.

  • @angeloperri1128
    @angeloperri1128 Před 3 lety +36

    Just knowing that this is a possibility hurts my soul

  • @haydenbennett3547
    @haydenbennett3547 Před 3 lety +41

    I could never kill off Wrex, he's just too awesome

  • @82dorrin
    @82dorrin Před 3 lety +21

    This should have been a "game over" moment. Wrex shoots you in the head, and the "Critical Mission Failure" screen appears.
    You betrayed a brother. You deserve nothing less.

  • @blackmanospherepresident
    @blackmanospherepresident Před 3 lety +35

    I always wanted to see this reaction to Wrex Being Betrayed...I am unwilling to mess up 3 games of cannon to have this done on my watch even in a game.

    • @robpatterson3133
      @robpatterson3133 Před 3 lety +4

      Same .. 2 weeks ago i started a ren. Play through and im in me 2 now regretting it its just uncomfortable flat out ! These are the family that helps lift you to save everything ... Not kill and mame it 😧

    • @RevolverOcelot1
      @RevolverOcelot1 Před 2 lety

      You could use a trilogy save editor if you're on PC. idk if it works for console as well.

  • @Jesssteam
    @Jesssteam Před 2 lety +12

    "Too big for a coffin, might have to space this one." That's just such a cherry on the cake of HORRIBLE.
    Also have to say, props to devs for putting this scene in the game later on, rather than right after, to make sure people won't just reload after seeing it.

  • @thatguySmitty234
    @thatguySmitty234 Před 3 lety +32

    That scream he does after being shot the first time breaks my heart. I’ve played the renegade path before this is just twisted and sad.

  • @31_king
    @31_king Před 3 lety +94

    This is why I prefer being a paragon,most options are sensible while most renegade are downright…barbaric

    • @emilio7616
      @emilio7616 Před 3 lety +9

      That’s only in mass effect 3 in 1-2 the renegade is more on the side of bad ass but in 3 there just evil

    • @auberginemanproductions1608
      @auberginemanproductions1608 Před 2 lety +6

      @@emilio7616 Nah, in ME1 you're a racist/supremacist and in ME2 you're agreeing with terrorists and supremacists. ME3 doesn't seem like much of a leap to me

    • @fluorideinthechat7606
      @fluorideinthechat7606 Před 2 lety +2

      I dunno, punching the reporter is really fun even on a Paragon run.

    • @31_king
      @31_king Před 2 lety

      @@fluorideinthechat7606 yea i agree on that i just like shooting or killing the characters i like

  • @CheoCascara
    @CheoCascara Před 3 lety +18

    wrex has always been a bro, I only see this in clips, never on my console.

  • @Dootslay4rX66
    @Dootslay4rX66 Před 3 lety +25

    I would never do this to Wrex, he is my fav character in the entire series. Honest, respectable and ruthless

  • @bobafett844
    @bobafett844 Před 3 lety +15

    This is why You might think the Reapers deserve to Win.

  • @darian2975
    @darian2975 Před 2 lety +10

    I can't even finish this video. It says a lot.
    You can betray Wreav all you want but hands off Wrex heart no matter how evil you are

  • @Zeul28
    @Zeul28 Před 9 lety +39

    Shit...I can't take this

  • @SideShowBatt
    @SideShowBatt Před 3 lety +19

    I can't betray Wrex or the Krogans, I like them too much. I always cure the Genophage when ever I replay Mass Effect 3.

  • @blindmessiah255
    @blindmessiah255 Před 3 lety +16

    I remember when Krogans were boss fights instead of put down in five pistol shots

    • @destoroyahofhope4005
      @destoroyahofhope4005 Před 3 lety +7

      I remember killing a Krogan enemy with a pistol a bunch of times in ME1 and ME2, what're you talking about?

    • @wizgi7201
      @wizgi7201 Před 3 lety

      Krogans never were boss fights tho, there were normal enemies in 1 and 2

    • @destoroyahofhope4005
      @destoroyahofhope4005 Před 3 lety

      @@wizgi7201 There was one Krogan boss. The Krogan Commander you fight after you save Liara. Other than that, they've been normal enemies.

    • @Awe391
      @Awe391 Před 3 lety +3

      @@wizgi7201 Krogans on insanity are terrifying. If your biopics are on cool down and they’ve got immunity going gg

    • @BlazinVoid59
      @BlazinVoid59 Před 3 lety

      I mean it *is* the Carnifex we're talking about

  • @VRmission38
    @VRmission38 Před 3 lety +6

    If you chose this option…….. you don’t have a soul.

  • @christopherpericolosi-king4979

    I literally just died of shock!!!!!!!!!!! Props to the developers for even considering this option! It's also why I have only played as a full renegade in only 1 full playthrough of the series.

  • @user-so2qu4lj1y
    @user-so2qu4lj1y Před 11 měsíci +2

    At first I cured the genophage, but after hearing a few words from Wrex about the rapid settlement of a bunch of planets by Krogans and mention that the Krogans would want to take revenge. I decided to change my mind, despite the fact that I played for Paragon.

    • @shippingjamvault4170
      @shippingjamvault4170 Před 9 měsíci

      are you sure wrex was the one stating it and not wreav? i mean, from my memories, wrex was the person uniting the krogans with the assistance from eve, considering she survived the last mission on tuchanka.
      wreav (not sure how to spell his name), on the other hand, was talking about revenge and how he would like to participate in it.
      not saying i'm telling the truth, just trying to recall things ^^

  • @rhynobullraq5320
    @rhynobullraq5320 Před 3 lety +5

    This is so heartbreaking to watch, I don't know how I never knew this scene existed... I mean I always play full Paragon so yeah... but it's never popped up for me online either until today. This scene makes me feel sad & sick :'(

  • @mattdesautels375
    @mattdesautels375 Před 3 lety +4

    I’ve never done this option as I love Wrex and the Krogan, so actually seeing this breaks something inside me that was never meant to break.

  • @nexotoflua3739
    @nexotoflua3739 Před 3 lety +2

    "Believing you were my friend!" My heart actually ached hearing that.I could never turn on the main man. This video is heresy!

    • @ArchiBarrel1991
      @ArchiBarrel1991  Před 3 lety

      I like that it touched you so deeply.

    • @nexotoflua3739
      @nexotoflua3739 Před 3 lety

      @@ArchiBarrel1991 Later on in years I would me a man named Rax, and he's now one of my closest friends. Literally looking at him you see the human embodiment of a Krogan.

  • @throttlebrah
    @throttlebrah Před 2 lety +1

    Garrus: "Illusive ma'am is not real"
    Illusive Ma'am:

  • @fluffyragexxxxx4293
    @fluffyragexxxxx4293 Před 3 lety +3

    Even playing as a renegade I couldn’t do this to Wrex. He was the only one who didn’t complain about my choices even after killing the council. He was more than a friend he was a true bro 😢

  • @Terreos
    @Terreos Před 3 lety +3

    I agree with someone else that this should’ve been a game over scene. Wrex was in full gear and Shepard was literally in casual wear unarmed. Wrex should’ve killed you. This should’ve been saved for if Wreav was the one that was alive and you betrayed.

  • @lightinferno4490
    @lightinferno4490 Před 3 lety +2

    I'm proud that I would never see this on one of my playthroughs. Turning Shepard into a filthy rat.

  • @Tywil714
    @Tywil714 Před 3 lety +17

    The renegade choices in ME3 just feel straight up evil in the previous games being a renegade felt morally grey you could be a snarky asshole but nonetheless got the job done but nin ME3 you make choices that make you look like a villianous sociopath you should be Bringing the galaxy together not tearing it apart fooling the krogans to extinction out if fear then the krogan rebellions will happen again is inconsequential to the damage the reapers could do

    • @Nick-qq2nq
      @Nick-qq2nq Před 3 lety +4

      Mass effect 1 renegade: asshole
      Mass effect 2 renegade: badass
      Mass effect 3 renegade: genocidal psychopath

    • @sealdude5581
      @sealdude5581 Před 3 lety +5

      @@Nick-qq2nq I disagree. ME1 and ME2 renegade options are just straight up psychotic. ME3 renegade options are more in the grey zone, because Shepard's decision making is influenced by their need to get help for earth.
      The only way Shepard could secure the help of both Krogan and Salarian would be to sabotage the cure. If your goal is to get as much manpower as you possibly can, then it's something even a hero might have considered.

    • @pilotero3898
      @pilotero3898 Před 3 lety +3

      @@sealdude5581 Sooner or later the Salarians would contribute in the war anyway (Spoiler, saving the original Salarian Councilor from Asian Robot Ninja grants you the full Salarian fleet even if the Genophage was cured)

    • @sealdude5581
      @sealdude5581 Před 3 lety +5

      @@pilotero3898 I know, but Shepard wouldn't know this at the time. It depends on whether you're roleplaying your decisions in the game, or you're meta-gaming with the knowledge of how the game is gonna turn out.

  • @dustin_echoes
    @dustin_echoes Před 3 lety +8

    Shield and armor never work in cutscene.

  • @Nundevwizer
    @Nundevwizer Před 3 lety +3

    whoever runs a trilogy playthrough where Wrex dies at any point. you are the definition of evil.

  • @brainlesscommunity
    @brainlesscommunity Před 3 lety +8

    NEVER EVER HAPPENING IN ONE OF MY PLAYTHROUGHS!

  • @antonironstag5085
    @antonironstag5085 Před 3 lety +8

    How could anyone betray Wrex? He's always been a bro

  • @jcgggg
    @jcgggg Před 3 lety +4

    1:20 - I recognise that yell from Wrex from a Gamerpoop episode.

  • @andrewthefanboy1640
    @andrewthefanboy1640 Před 2 lety +3

    Sabotaging the cure is the most evil thing you can do in the whole trilogy. You can’t change my mind.

    • @zackfair6791
      @zackfair6791 Před 8 měsíci

      I sabotage the cure every time. Also, no one who makes that choice cares what you think.

  • @ETH5626
    @ETH5626 Před 3 lety +1

    This is why i don't backstab Wrex, he's too much of an important ally just to throw him under the bus.

  • @Zabor-ny3co
    @Zabor-ny3co Před 2 lety +2

    I finished for the first time ever Mass Effect LE last week and i loved Wrex to death.
    See this break my heart, i could never betray him

  • @fjorgyn7438
    @fjorgyn7438 Před 3 lety +5

    I could never do this. Dear god, that's horrible.

  • @TaintedMojo
    @TaintedMojo Před 3 lety +4

    That’s why I never sabotaged the cure

  • @resonantdock
    @resonantdock Před 9 měsíci

    Commander Bailey immediately after: "Back to work."

  • @CainEverest
    @CainEverest Před 3 lety +1

    This whole scene hurts. I dont give a fuck if I'm doing a Renegade playthrough, I will ALWAYS help Wrex. You don't destroy a brother like that. You just don't.

  • @caramelfrappe402
    @caramelfrappe402 Před 3 lety +3

    I made a Renegade Shepard, but she was always mean / strict to those who gave her trouble. Her crew, her friends? Nice and funny to be around. You don't have to go 100% on Renegade because otherwise ME 3's Renegade is just borderline evil and cruel, nothing badass about it.
    Wrex deserves much better.

    • @MoostachedSaiyanPrince
      @MoostachedSaiyanPrince Před 3 lety

      I'd say ME3 Renegade is more desperate than evil. Still despicable morally, but if faced with the same choices in real life, with real lives on the line, making those choices isn't as easy. Because despite the ideal that most everyone strives for, morality is often forgotten at wartime.

  • @AbundantLifeCorp
    @AbundantLifeCorp Před 4 lety +15

    Doesn't fake genophage give you the most Galactic Readiness points because you can get the krogan's (by trickery) & slarians to side with you?

    • @thegreyeyedcat9142
      @thegreyeyedcat9142 Před 3 lety +4

      I heard the salarians join up with you anyway afterwards. Idk tho I’m playing thru it rn

    • @AbundantLifeCorp
      @AbundantLifeCorp Před 3 lety +8

      @@thegreyeyedcat9142 I researched this a while back & if I remember right you DO get the most if you fake genophage and properly get Krogan's & Salarians but only slightly more than curing Genophage. I think it's better if wreav is there and not wrex, based on choices from previous games I guess (Wrex catching you fake Genophage).

    • @fjjdndnf1314
      @fjjdndnf1314 Před 3 lety +3

      If you saved kirahhe in me1 the salarians will join regardless if you released the cure or not

    • @nautikient2151
      @nautikient2151 Před 3 lety +1

      @@fjjdndnf1314 gimme more tips as I'm gonna get the trilogy

    • @fjjdndnf1314
      @fjjdndnf1314 Před 3 lety

      @@nautikient2151 be my pleasure just played the whole trilogy twice so I have it really ironed out so will be multiple comments though

  • @HenchmenNo616
    @HenchmenNo616 Před 3 lety +2

    Must've been one hell of a pistol to put Wrex down. The trilogy made krogans sound like real meat sponges with redundant organs and dull nerve system to fight pain.

    • @keeks8441
      @keeks8441 Před 3 lety +2

      Probably a fully upgraded Carnifex 😭

    • @HenchmenNo616
      @HenchmenNo616 Před 3 lety

      @@keeks8441 ok now I'm thinking what's a C-Sec guy doing with an unregulated modded carnifex

  • @The_Punisher
    @The_Punisher Před 2 lety +1

    "Look at how they massacred my boy..."

  • @Justin-ym5ce
    @Justin-ym5ce Před 3 lety +5

    Damn rip… I actually had a hard time with that choice, glad I stayed loyal lol

  • @owaine-changaming
    @owaine-changaming Před rokem +3

    question how do you fuck up a shotgun close range headshot

  • @altaiajhin2332
    @altaiajhin2332 Před 2 lety

    This makes me thankful that I only ever play as paragon...dear god, I could never imagine screwing over Wrex and his people. Him and Grunt are like, the best bois.

  • @Fyrehart97
    @Fyrehart97 Před 2 lety +1

    To be fair Wrex, it was your own fault for trusting someone who looks like... That. I mean, her eyes are literally glowing RED!

  • @liquidmang
    @liquidmang Před 3 lety +4

    That pistol is advertised as a Krogan stopper… talk about a testimonial

    • @johnt3606
      @johnt3606 Před 3 lety

      Shepard didn't forget that time he woke grunt up

    • @liquidmang
      @liquidmang Před 3 lety

      @@johnt3606 if it was a Kalifex, grunt would've been tossed out the airlock at the ripe old age of 4 minutes

  • @PhoenixHavok
    @PhoenixHavok Před 3 lety +5

    This is the kind of sheperd who saves Ashely over Kaiden

    • @shamrock141
      @shamrock141 Před 3 lety +1

      Alteast Ashley gets redemption, Kaiden just kinda stays the same the entire series

  • @t-6004
    @t-6004 Před 3 lety

    Look at how shepard backs up when she sees Wrex. She's fucking ashamed and scared

  • @Valadoren
    @Valadoren Před rokem

    I think I'll go back to my paragon playthrough where he calls me his sister and champion, and erase this video from my memory forever.

  • @xMTxcameron
    @xMTxcameron Před 3 lety +7

    That was hard to watch

  • @millabasset1710
    @millabasset1710 Před 3 lety +11

    Renegade Femshep in trilogy
    1.) Bitch
    2.) Bad Ass
    3.) Witch

  • @wizardking9829
    @wizardking9829 Před 2 lety +1

    Damn that’s just evil you were my brother Wrex

  • @sarinat3101
    @sarinat3101 Před 2 lety +2

    Props to BioWare for making content I literally paid for that I never want to see.

  • @battlesheep2552
    @battlesheep2552 Před 3 lety +3

    After all you've been through, after Virmire, you owe Wrex, not just a genophage cure, but you owe him your trust that he'll make good on his promises that the Krogan aren't going to repeat their mistakes. This isn't renegade, it's just evil.

  • @khiamyles596
    @khiamyles596 Před 4 lety +8

    And this is why I choose to help the krogan survive to whoever chose to do that was a stupid move

  • @augustday9483
    @augustday9483 Před 6 měsíci

    By the beginning of ME1, Wrex had given up on his people. He worked as a merc and tried to act like he didn't care anymore. Then Shepherd gives them hope again, causing Wrex to return to Tuchanka and start building a future for his people.
    To go through all that, only to be betrayed by the person that gave him hope in the first place... heartbreaking.

  • @H3lios227
    @H3lios227 Před 3 lety

    The champion of Kirkwall getting slapped at the beginning is something

  • @aerynstormcrow
    @aerynstormcrow Před 3 lety +3

    Ok I didn’t even know this was a thing until now…thanks for that heartbreak. 😢😢😢

  • @rodolfomartinez4505
    @rodolfomartinez4505 Před 3 lety +3

    They should’ve added an optional boss fight against Wrex within that room of the Citadel if you made this choice. It would’ve made his actual death seem more realistic, aside from the added drama of a boss fight. That one pistol shot does not make sense logically.

    • @codyeaster290
      @codyeaster290 Před 11 měsíci +1

      That "pistol" is an M-6 Carnifex, which is possibly the most powerful pistol the player can equip themselves with; there's a reason why advertisements ask you if you wish Carnifex was at your side while featuring a charging Krogan, you know.

  • @jp3achtr33p6
    @jp3achtr33p6 Před 3 lety +1

    Damn the last seconds got me hard Wrex is my favorite character and to here he doesn’t even get a burial is brutal

  • @DarkseidJoshua
    @DarkseidJoshua Před 3 lety +1

    Wrex) Shepherd I know what you did, the cure for the genophage was a fake!.
    Shepherd) Calm down Wrex why would I betray you? I've known you for years.
    Wrex) Why should I believe you your space Hitler!

  • @spagetti001
    @spagetti001 Před 6 lety +14

    hahaha, too bad he was long dead in my playthrough and wreav was way too stupid to notice the change :D

  • @dvrn86
    @dvrn86 Před 3 lety +6

    We are all Krogan✊

  • @jaredburnett2675
    @jaredburnett2675 Před 3 lety +1

    regenade is best shepard yet dont mean you have to make pure evil choices I love playing regenade for that hardass soldier vibe

    • @SunBunz
      @SunBunz Před 3 lety

      I experimented with EVIL Femshep. It was agonizing. I’ll never do it again. lol

  • @ThatAsianKid32
    @ThatAsianKid32 Před 2 lety

    I have to watch these videos on CZcams because they're things I could never bring myself to do in an actual playthrough.