If you think about it, Wrex saying he'd name a girl after Mordin is actually a much better complement than naming a boy considering how important females are in their society.
Mordin's sacrifice was the first moment in the entire Mass Effect trilogy where I cried. He gave his life so that an entire race would have a future. The math checks out.
Took the words out of my mouth, Bioware did Mordin's character justice. He isn't the first squaddie you think about when making a heroic sacrifice. In most cases when we imagine sacrifices in mass effect we think of Ashley or Kaidan and how they gave their life to ensure Saren's facility was destroyed (sitting next to the nuke, wounded unable to move, and going down guns blazing against swarms of geth - a smile on their face). In Mordin's case he wasn't some badass soldier. No gun or swarms of enemies, just a scientist typing at a console with a smile on his lips and a song in his heart. Damn if I keep going with this comment I'm in danger of some emotions! RIP Mordin.
If you replay you cry every time he says the line. Now you know every time he said it he was regretful. Every time he said this he was thinking he could have done better. My project my work my responsibility.....had to be me. Someone else might have gotten it wrong....
I am the very model of a scientest selarian i study species turian asari and betarian im quite good at genetics witch is a subset of bioligy of witch i am an expert witch i know is a tautology MY XENO SCIENCE STUDDYS RANGE FROM URBAN TO AGRARIAN I AM THE VERY MODLE OF A SCIENTIST SELAREAAAAAAAAAAANNNN!!!!!! *Smile and cough*
It's best when he pauses in thought and says. "... would have liked to work on the seashells." Him and Shepard talked about what Mordin will do in retirement, to which he said he'd retire to somewhere tropical by the sea. Shepard said he'd get bored in an hour, and Mordin admitted he might run tests on the seashells at the beach. RIP you scientist Salarian, you.
He was at peace with himself because he knew he had repented for his sins. When he helped develop the genophage altercations he was just a young dummy trying to do something “great”. As he grew older he realized he was just being an idiot tackling that challenge as just that, a challenge. He didn’t look at the bigger picture but in his last moments he knew he was doing the right thing for the right reasons. F in the chat bros.
It is, even though you can tell he is still clearly terrified of what he knows is about to happen the entire time, he still does his best to remain calm, singing to himself to try and soothe his understandable fear in the face of death, giving real truth to the phrase, that the only time we can be brave, is when we are afraid.
@@siddliciousWhen Mordin saw his Student's Mistake, he saw how desperate Krogans was to find a cure that they even sacrifice themselves for their Salvation, it is the reason Mordin was pitty, reason everyone's loyalty mission in me2 was super important to their character development.
I hate how the game gives you the option "I'll miss you mordin" and then when you choose it shephard proceeds with. "I'm sorry" first option would've been so much better
Robin Kuijt I see the dissonance there, but I think that was the entire point- it was a moment of conflict, and Shepard was just as conflicted as the ethics that surrounded the situation. He wanted to say he would miss him, but it came out as “I’m sorry”.
@@deProfundisAdAstra Yeah. Most dialogue choices are like that. I believe the ones on the wheel are what Shepherd is really thinking but the words that he/she says there to stay professional as he/she is still a soldier.
@@Survivor976 That's ridiculous though, it's just poorly presented dialogue. It's the same vague shit that's present in FO4. "Sarcasm" ends up making you a complete evil bastard.
@@ironstranger314 yeah it's an age old problem with these sorts of things. Though weirdly only when the lines are actually voiced, when they're silent there never seems to be a problem Not honestly sure what the root cause of it is, one'd think it'd be a simple thing to match em up, but maybe it's like different departments of the studio making dialogue and voice lines at different points and not communicating? Unsure
Yeah man, after him singing and you just knew they were going to play Vigil...You just knew it was coming and it was just right in the feels, just the cherry on the feels sundae. And the way they framed Wrex standing there in the mist...
I always chose to befriend Mordin, so it was heartbreaking (but not a surprise) that he sings in this moment. Finding out that he ONLY does it if you're his friend, suddenly made me realize how much bioware respected the relationship between players and the characters. It wasn't a goodbye for Shepard, it was for us.
Mordin's death. Troubling implications. Necessary though. My work. My repsonsiblity. Someone else might have gotten it wrong. Team strong. Will continue on without me. Still would have liked to see how it ends. Would have liked to run tests on the seashells...
This one scene was a result of so many key decisions you made during the previous years & games: *Saving Maelon's data *Keeping Eve alive *Saving Wrex *Choosing to cure the genophage *Choosing to warn Mordin about the STG tampering All of those decisions, spread over hours and hours of gameplay, all led to this one moment. And it was as glorious as it was absolutely heartbreaking. But totally worth it. That's why Mass Effect will be considered one of the greatest games ever. Incredible.
Hell, I got it on my first playthrough. In ME1, my state of mind was that Wrex was a bro', but the krogan were too dangerous. So I'd try to tell him it was for the best. To my own surprise (and everyone else on Virmire) it worked. Considering he was emptying shotgun cartridges in the lagoon at the beginning of the conversation, that's a hell of a feat. In ME2, I come across Maelon's data, I grew found of Mordin, and of the krogan in general. Helping Grunt through his identity crisis was enlightening in that regard. I choose to keep the data. I thought then that keeping these off-hand would make a good bargaining chip with the krogan if it was ever needed (i didn't have a clue as to what was gonna happen in ME3 - i just roleplayed my ruthless shepard. Ruthless, but over time the originally feinted interested she had in her men just to make them more reliable turned to genuine friendship and affection. Even if she was ever given the choice between them and the mission, she'd pick the mission without a second thought (which lead her to murder Kaidan in ME3, while he was romanced since ME1), as I said, Ruthless.). In ME3, I realize that I mostly did great with decisions in the past two games. Like really, I almost always get the best outcomes. The only thing I ever regretted from that first playthrough was not saving the Destiny Ascension in ME1. Especially given how people thought of my character for it. I had told the fleet to concentrate on sovereign not because I wanted the council to die or anything. I was just sticking to my char's moto - the mission first, never take any chances. Blow Sovereign skyhigh, THEN take care of the dignitaries. Because otherwise, you risk not being successful (though I learned from subsequent playthroughs that it didn't matter in that regard).
The thing about Mordin's death that seems to not get much attention is that Bioware gives you two headfakes beforehand. You go into this mission with two previous cases of former squadmates appearing dead at first but surviving (Grunt and Kasumi). Then, you get to this and a former squadmate dies for real.
Also if you do the mission with Grunt hunting down the Rachni. They make it seem like he dies and then comes out the cave alive as long as you had his loyalty. So I was just sitting there like oh I have his loyalty everything will be ok. Then I saw the explosion and was like nope.
about Miranda it doesn’t matter if you got her loyalty or not, you have to absolutely warn her about Kai Leng, I didn’t warn her because there wasn’t anything that told me to do it and she ended up dying on me
@@johnnyboy3410 I believe it’s both. You need to secure her loyalty in Mass Effect 2 AND warn her about Kai Leng in Mass Effect 3. Additionally, if you romanced her, you cannot break up with her or she’s guaranteed to die.
It's something more. This is his redemption. A sigh of relief, as if the feeling of guilt that had been squeezing his heart for so many years had finally unclenched its fingers.
It was an honor to have you not only as a comrade, but as a friend. Thank You for everything you've done Mordin, you are missed even now by many. Hope you're among those seashells now my Salarian scientist, doing the work you wanted to do. RIP Mordin
How so? I think games (when done well) nail down emotional investment way better than books or movies. Okay, maybe i was over exaggerating that a bit. I'm not saying that i was "depressed depressed" but you know, i had the same feeling when you beat a game and while there are side missions, it just doesn't feel the same.
Fuck that cerberus cheerleader. She's an evil liar! The only thing that can make her loyal is sheps cock tbh. Plus she hates Jack, who is literally mi canon LI
I'm going through my first playthrough of Mass Effect 3 (imported a save file from the previous games) and I just played this section today. The feels. I lost a great friend today but he died with honor. And he will live on. I'll miss you, Mordin.
Not just accepting his fate, moving past it and focusing on his work. Even with death staring him down, he has a job to do, and he's doing it correctly.
When I was playing through I had spoken to Mordin prior to the mission and so this scene came with the absolutely heartbreaking line 'would have liked to test seashells.' I had to stop playing because I was crying so hard.
I remember when my friends were talking about how sad the death of a character in this book they read. And I just kept comparing all the times I was saddened by the death of a character in a movie, a tv show or in a book. Well it will never compare to the death of Mordin. I spent hours fighting with this guy, I replayed Mass Effect 2 just to keep him alive. You can say this guy was one of my best friends! I watched him change, I watched him recount his life and I watched him search for redemption. I'll never forget his death. RIP Salarian
Everytime I play this game and get to this scene, I know what's about to happen... But I always cry. Every damn time. He was like my best friend. The impact this scene had on me is the biggest over any game I've ever played by far.
This is easily my favorite game of all time. I have never connected as well with characters in any other game. Your entire squad is family, and loosing one of them brings the manliest tears out of me. Damn did i love this game, i have played about 4 playthroughs of this game thus far and i never regret replaying it for one second. A replay of this game means that i can connect to the charachters once more. Altough the ending of this game is pretty meh, every single minute you spend up until that point is so winderful. There are many deaths in the series that made me shed some mantears, moridin being one of them, aswell as legion being another. Dammit do i love these two characters. Legions and Mordins death brings me to tears every time. Out of every game i have played in my lifetime of 19 years, this is one of my favorite,
My friend did his first ever trilogy playthrough recently and Mordin was his standout. He thought he was a meme cause of the camera changing in ME2 during his introduction, but quickly changed to his favourite character after some dialogue. And when he sang in ME2 he laughed hard for quite some time, then ME3 came. I'll actually never forget hearing him sound so defeated when Mordin went up and when he started singing he burst out crying. This trilogy is legendary
The breath he takes at 1:37 is one of my favorite moments of this scene. Throughout ME2 and ME3 you get such a great sense about how conflicted Mordin was over his work on the genophage, and at that moment he has finally found peace with himself
I remember hearing about Mordin in the lead up to mass effect 2. I was like "Who the fuck is this guy? Why isn't someone badass like Kirrahe on the crew instead?" Oh, how times have changed.
I love the pause in between his kind of catch phrase line here, "it had to be me.. someone else might have gotten it wrong" I always liked that line. Mordin was always confident in his work, held himself accountable, embodied the "want it done right, do it yourself" attitude. I think this one was different though. He says "it had to be me" because he has to make up for his own actions that he had struggled with for so long (hell, he gets over killing Maelon before getting aboard the Normandy but struggled for how long after releasing the genophage) and then "someone else might have gotten it wrong" is referencing himself, saying he was wrong before but this is his chance to make things right (different circumstances he hits you with that potent "i made a mistake!") I think that's why he was so calm going into the end. This was him making his peace.
Mordin should have been a romance option for FemShep. Just imagine it: Kaidan: I don't get it. Why would she choose YOU? Mordin. It had to be me. Someone else might have gotten it wrong. Kaidan: Fuck you. ... Plus this scene would have been even more emotional.
+Alexalmo you know that'll be very weird, it would be like a mid-late 20s girl would fall in love with a guy old enough to be her grandpa, mordin was very old for a salarian, they rarely live past 40 which is considered a very old age
Mass Effect is very lenient with those "moral" sidechoices. You can easly get enough Morality Points for both Paragon and Renegade to always have all dialogue and action choices across all 3 games on first playthrough.
Every single forced death in ME3 Made me cry... Legion if you chose to side with the Quarians "Does this unit... have.... a soul...." Thanes final words and selfless sacrifice. Mordin giving his life to undo the horror of a plague his species created... giving the krogan the future the deserve. Anderson on the citidal... telling shepard how proud he is of him.. And the most powerful of all.. Tali... If you chose the geth... Seeing her crying and falling off that cliff, then thinking the paragon action will save her... only for it to give you false hope and see she has gone. So many feels... so many man tears.... No other game or movie has ever made me cry, this game is something special.
One of the absolute best moments in the entire previous generation. In my playthrough I cured the Genophage, but both Mordin and the Female Krogan died, making it a powerful, wonderful bittersweet moment.
I have always renegaded my way through every mass effect. But this was one instance I could not do it. I admired Mordin too much to make his sacrifice, in this scene, in vain.
I love that Wrex, who probably has one of the most legitimate reasons to hold a grudge against Mordin for what he has done in the past, so readily announces to name one of his own future children after him, even if it’s a girl, it’s such wonderful sentiment and shows just how much he’s changed.
The homie Mordin! No!! The thing I noticed was his face as he sings. The look of fear and knowing that any second he's going to die. Got his facial expression perfect
I didn't cry when grunt died, I didn't cry when tali died, but when mordin, of all people, Mordin died, I cried like a baby... I hope your studying seashells now Mordin.... We will miss you
How did you get tali or grunt to die? I just finished my first playthrough and only ones that died were Jack and the Drell dude whose name i forgot. I Didn't do Drells loyalty mission and I sided with Miranda after Jack's misson.
probably because mordin's sacrifice was much larger than himself. curing the genophage was a turning point in an entire species as well as the war with the reapers. up until this point in the game, the reaper war was a lost cause. this is the first time the heroes have hope.
One of the few times where I felt true sadness in a video game. Mordin was my #1 companion in ME2. I brought him everywhere. And seeing him go up and curing the Genophage and fixing what he helped start made me sit there for a good minute, paying my respects. Mordin was, in fact, the very model of a scientist Salarian
2:52 when Vigil theme started was such a nostalgic moment, the feel that the Krogan had a new beggining the same feeling when i played Mass effect for the fist time
Often I wonder if there will ever be a any form of media that will offer the sheer epicness and involvement that the original mass effect trilogy did. RIP My scientist Salarian
I'm playing this whole series for the first time and i cried when i found out he was going to die, even worse i didn't get the singing part and when my husband told me i bawled even more.
Mordin was one of my favorite characters in the whole series. His sense of humor he intellect everything was just perfect. When I played through this scene for the first time 10 years ago I had to stop playing because I was actually crying so hard.
My girl seeing me get visibly sad at this scene: "I'm sure he's fine. You will go back to the ship, and he'll be in the med bay, prescribing thermal paste so you can f*** Edi"
Mordin's teary eyed smile at 2:15 is everything. he knows he's dead, but he's so full of pride fr having done something genuinely *right*. ugh. i'm going to cry again.
This scene is 10 years old and I still have a tears in my eyes every time I see it... Mordin was old and probably and wasn't going to live long but still... to go out like this; to sacrifice yourself, so countless future generations have chance to live - that's meaningful! And to redeem past mistakes... that's more than most of us could ever hope for! All of us die, but to to know that your death have meaning... that's marvelous! My only regret is that in this version Mordin wasn't sinning in his last moments... what can you do; nothings is perfect!
The second "Vigil" kicked in I was in tears. The perfect theme to underline the scope of what just happened. Not just the mere death of a beloved character, but the cure of the genophage. Mordin just ended something that was a huge part of the Mass Effect mythology up until this point. And let's be honest, most of us had been waiting for this for a long time. At least since having to talk Wrex out of turning against us back in ME1.
In my first playthrough I was going full paragon. Wrex was alive and Eve was alive, but the Dalatras' offer had gotten to me. I didn't want to lose the Salarians, I was afraid without them the whole war would be a bust. I didn't mention the STG sabotage in the ride over, I was still mulling over what I wanted to do. Finally Mordin said he was going up to the tower and I told him to stand down. We argued, and then he finally spun on me and yelled "I MADE A MISTAKE." It shook me. We continued arguing, and he finally turned his back on me to go up to the elevator. The Renegade prompt came up to shoot him in the back. Usually those paragon/renegrade prompts only last a few moments, but this one just hung there. For what felt like 20 seconds as Mordin kept walking away in slow motion. My finger was on the trigger. I hesitated, finally swore, and let him go. He got on the elevator and cured the genophage. I teared up, not only because this whole sequence was so well done, but also out of shame. My Shepard was about to sell out his convictions, and Mordin didn't back down. The way things played out, Mordin saved my Shepard's soul. Then 20 hours later I got a choice of 3 different colored explosions and did nothing but bitch online about it.
I felt so emotional in this scene. I actually teared up quite abit. Bravo to the developers that doesn't happen to me. He went out like a true hero and scientist. I'm glad I got to hear him sing one last time
A lot of sacrifices were made in the trilogy and I wasn't really invested in the krogan nurtured story arc. But this....damn man, it teared me up. Well done Bioware. You got into my feels with this.
Honestly having heroes like this makes me love them more than any "deconstruction" tired to do. I know this is a old comment but the deconstructions lost their charm for me
of all the characters in mass effect franchise, Mordin is one of the best I really liked him throughout the gameplay both in mass effect 2 and 3, his humor and the way he talks, makes him one of the most memorable characters in video games.
Seeing that scene again gives me goosebumps, good goosebumps. And I remember the interview, and the wave of Krogan migration that followed (we learned about it from an email from Eve, and I think from the tactical PC).
If you think about it, Wrex saying he'd name a girl after Mordin is actually a much better complement than naming a boy considering how important females are in their society.
It's also a dude jab. Guys rib each other as a sign of respect. It means they believe you can take hardship well. A sign of respect.
@@jackall-trades6149yikes
3 years ago you actually made me cry 😭
Damn I never thought about it, that is probably the most Respectful Salrian that Krogan will ever respect
Wreak on the other hand will try to bury Mordin’s name, as he doesn’t want history to remember that he had help from a salarian
The first time we heard that song we laughed.
The last time we heard it we all cried.
I cried on citadel DLC when I found the pad with his singing record
Weird how I saw this exact same comment on a video of Mordin singing
But the message stays true.
The way his voice cracks on the first line actually hurts
I can't take this scene serious purely because of the fact it cuts his song off and then blows his up. I can't just not laugh at that
“My xenoscience studies range from urban to agrarian. I am the very model of a-“
*BANG!*
Scientist Salarian…..
Mordin's sacrifice was the first moment in the entire Mass Effect trilogy where I cried. He gave his life so that an entire race would have a future. The math checks out.
arguably the most honourable way anyone could sacrificing themselves to give billions a chance at a future. Rather a slow lingering decline
Took the words out of my mouth, Bioware did Mordin's character justice. He isn't the first squaddie you think about when making a heroic sacrifice. In most cases when we imagine sacrifices in mass effect we think of Ashley or Kaidan and how they gave their life to ensure Saren's facility was destroyed (sitting next to the nuke, wounded unable to move, and going down guns blazing against swarms of geth - a smile on their face).
In Mordin's case he wasn't some badass soldier. No gun or swarms of enemies, just a scientist typing at a console with a smile on his lips and a song in his heart. Damn if I keep going with this comment I'm in danger of some emotions! RIP Mordin.
If you replay you cry every time he says the line. Now you know every time he said it he was regretful. Every time he said this he was thinking he could have done better.
My project my work my responsibility.....had to be me. Someone else might have gotten it wrong....
Same
@Jack the Gestapo You watch the ending. The krogan are thriving because of him now and they are no longer a threat to anyone.
"Someone else might have gotten it wrong" My heart hurts.
Still hurts, after 10 years.
@@matteoj74 bro you can say that again. I remember being so young playing this and now I’m old
...a scientist salarian
*Que the millions of man tears*
THE scientist salarian.
The very model
I'm not crying. You're crying.
I am the very model of a scientest selarian i study species turian asari and betarian im quite good at genetics witch is a subset of bioligy of witch i am an expert witch i know is a tautology MY XENO SCIENCE STUDDYS RANGE FROM URBAN TO AGRARIAN I AM THE VERY MODLE OF A SCIENTIST SELAREAAAAAAAAAAANNNN!!!!!! *Smile and cough*
It's best when he pauses in thought and says.
"... would have liked to work on the seashells."
Him and Shepard talked about what Mordin will do in retirement, to which he said he'd retire to somewhere tropical by the sea. Shepard said he'd get bored in an hour, and Mordin admitted he might run tests on the seashells at the beach.
RIP you scientist Salarian, you.
I did that too. As soon as he said that I started sobbing. One of the only times I've cried at a video game.
I bet he's running tests on the seashells at the moment :).
He is the very model of a scientist slarian
if you dont have that interaction the ending conversation change. damn this guys think on everything
I think in the Legendary Edition, Shepard says he’d actually go crazy in under an hour :laughing:
I swear to god this is one of the most calm heroic deaths ive ever seen
He was at peace with himself because he knew he had repented for his sins. When he helped develop the genophage altercations he was just a young dummy trying to do something “great”. As he grew older he realized he was just being an idiot tackling that challenge as just that, a challenge. He didn’t look at the bigger picture but in his last moments he knew he was doing the right thing for the right reasons. F in the chat bros.
F
It is, even though you can tell he is still clearly terrified of what he knows is about to happen the entire time, he still does his best to remain calm, singing to himself to try and soothe his understandable fear in the face of death, giving real truth to the phrase, that the only time we can be brave, is when we are afraid.
@@siddliciousA great metaphor for Oppenheimer I believe.
@@siddliciousWhen Mordin saw his Student's Mistake, he saw how desperate Krogans was to find a cure that they even sacrifice themselves for their Salvation, it is the reason Mordin was pitty, reason everyone's loyalty mission in me2 was super important to their character development.
I hate how the game gives you the option "I'll miss you mordin" and then when you choose it shephard proceeds with. "I'm sorry" first option would've been so much better
Robin Kuijt I see the dissonance there, but I think that was the entire point- it was a moment of conflict, and Shepard was just as conflicted as the ethics that surrounded the situation. He wanted to say he would miss him, but it came out as “I’m sorry”.
@@deProfundisAdAstra
Yeah. Most dialogue choices are like that. I believe the ones on the wheel are what Shepherd is really thinking but the words that he/she says there to stay professional as he/she is still a soldier.
@@Survivor976 That's ridiculous though, it's just poorly presented dialogue. It's the same vague shit that's present in FO4. "Sarcasm" ends up making you a complete evil bastard.
Yeah that’s what really pissed me of with the series that shepherd hardly ever actually says the dialogue you chose
@@ironstranger314 yeah it's an age old problem with these sorts of things. Though weirdly only when the lines are actually voiced, when they're silent there never seems to be a problem
Not honestly sure what the root cause of it is, one'd think it'd be a simple thing to match em up, but maybe it's like different departments of the studio making dialogue and voice lines at different points and not communicating? Unsure
I was already hit in the feels pretty damn hard when he headed up in that elevator. But man, when he started singing...
when it played vigil, I cried even harder
Yeah man, after him singing and you just knew they were going to play Vigil...You just knew it was coming and it was just right in the feels, just the cherry on the feels sundae. And the way they framed Wrex standing there in the mist...
I always chose to befriend Mordin, so it was heartbreaking (but not a surprise) that he sings in this moment. Finding out that he ONLY does it if you're his friend, suddenly made me realize how much bioware respected the relationship between players and the characters. It wasn't a goodbye for Shepard, it was for us.
Mordin's death. Troubling implications. Necessary though. My work. My repsonsiblity. Someone else might have gotten it wrong. Team strong. Will continue on without me. Still would have liked to see how it ends. Would have liked to run tests on the seashells...
......its sad that i read your comment with Mordin's voice in my head
RIP Mordin. He was the very model of a hero.
of a scientist salarian* ;)
This one scene was a result of so many key decisions you made during the previous years & games:
*Saving Maelon's data
*Keeping Eve alive
*Saving Wrex
*Choosing to cure the genophage
*Choosing to warn Mordin about the STG tampering
All of those decisions, spread over hours and hours of gameplay, all led to this one moment. And it was as glorious as it was absolutely heartbreaking. But totally worth it.
That's why Mass Effect will be considered one of the greatest games ever. Incredible.
Hell, I got it on my first playthrough.
In ME1, my state of mind was that Wrex was a bro', but the krogan were too dangerous. So I'd try to tell him it was for the best. To my own surprise (and everyone else on Virmire) it worked. Considering he was emptying shotgun cartridges in the lagoon at the beginning of the conversation, that's a hell of a feat.
In ME2, I come across Maelon's data, I grew found of Mordin, and of the krogan in general. Helping Grunt through his identity crisis was enlightening in that regard. I choose to keep the data. I thought then that keeping these off-hand would make a good bargaining chip with the krogan if it was ever needed (i didn't have a clue as to what was gonna happen in ME3 - i just roleplayed my ruthless shepard. Ruthless, but over time the originally feinted interested she had in her men just to make them more reliable turned to genuine friendship and affection. Even if she was ever given the choice between them and the mission, she'd pick the mission without a second thought (which lead her to murder Kaidan in ME3, while he was romanced since ME1), as I said, Ruthless.).
In ME3, I realize that I mostly did great with decisions in the past two games. Like really, I almost always get the best outcomes. The only thing I ever regretted from that first playthrough was not saving the Destiny Ascension in ME1. Especially given how people thought of my character for it. I had told the fleet to concentrate on sovereign not because I wanted the council to die or anything. I was just sticking to my char's moto - the mission first, never take any chances.
Blow Sovereign skyhigh, THEN take care of the dignitaries. Because otherwise, you risk not being successful (though I learned from subsequent playthroughs that it didn't matter in that regard).
you dont have to keep eve alive to cure the genophage
and i'll do it all over again.
didnt save wrex but got this one
And also if mordin survives me2
The thing about Mordin's death that seems to not get much attention is that Bioware gives you two headfakes beforehand. You go into this mission with two previous cases of former squadmates appearing dead at first but surviving (Grunt and Kasumi). Then, you get to this and a former squadmate dies for real.
Also if you do the mission with Grunt hunting down the Rachni. They make it seem like he dies and then comes out the cave alive as long as you had his loyalty. So I was just sitting there like oh I have his loyalty everything will be ok. Then I saw the explosion and was like nope.
Well Kasumi & Grunt (and also Zaeed and Miranda) would actually end up dead if you didn't secure their loyalty in ME2.
And the paragon interrupt which doesn't dissuade him. He calmly goes to his death anyway, to give hope to an entire race.
about Miranda it doesn’t matter if you got her loyalty or not, you have to absolutely warn her about Kai Leng, I didn’t warn her because there wasn’t anything that told me to do it and she ended up dying on me
@@johnnyboy3410 I believe it’s both. You need to secure her loyalty in Mass Effect 2 AND warn her about Kai Leng in Mass Effect 3. Additionally, if you romanced her, you cannot break up with her or she’s guaranteed to die.
Wrex's face at 2:53 as he watches the genophage being wiped from existence....one of the happiest, most rewarding moments in the entire series.
It's not Wrex that krogan had a Blood pack armor and no scars
@@hiram2082 I think he meant that Wrex was there a few seconds later
Looking up at the cure in the sky like raindrops after a drought. A 1500 year drought.
It's something more.
This is his redemption.
A sigh of relief, as if the feeling of guilt that had been squeezing his heart for so many years had finally unclenched its fingers.
It was an honor to have you not only as a comrade, but as a friend. Thank You for everything you've done Mordin, you are missed even now by many. Hope you're among those seashells now my Salarian scientist, doing the work you wanted to do.
RIP Mordin
+badadaha damn man...damn
This was hard. I remember being just depressed and not being able to focus on the game for a while, as if someone actually died.
Loser.
How so? I think games (when done well) nail down emotional investment way better than books or movies. Okay, maybe i was over exaggerating that a bit. I'm not saying that i was "depressed depressed" but you know, i had the same feeling when you beat a game and while there are side missions, it just doesn't feel the same.
Got nothing on Miranda's death.
Fuck that cerberus cheerleader. She's an evil liar! The only thing that can make her loyal is sheps cock tbh. Plus she hates Jack, who is literally mi canon LI
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Ah yes, miranda... only thing about her that i miss is her ass,,,,
I'm going through my first playthrough of Mass Effect 3 (imported a save file from the previous games) and I just played this section today. The feels. I lost a great friend today but he died with honor. And he will live on.
I'll miss you, Mordin.
1:37 That part there just.... got to me. It's Mordin fully accepting his fate with no regrets.
He lived his entire life and based his entire research on this. For this one moment. It was worth it.
Not just accepting his fate, moving past it and focusing on his work. Even with death staring him down, he has a job to do, and he's doing it correctly.
@@antonymilne1346which makes the walk to the control panel very badass.
I am the very model of a scientist Salarian
When I was playing through I had spoken to Mordin prior to the mission and so this scene came with the absolutely heartbreaking line 'would have liked to test seashells.' I had to stop playing because I was crying so hard.
Im still crying like a bitch over this.
Me too. :*(
I remember when my friends were talking about how sad the death of a character in this book they read.
And I just kept comparing all the times I was saddened by the death of a character in a movie, a tv show or in a book.
Well it will never compare to the death of Mordin. I spent hours fighting with this guy, I replayed Mass Effect 2 just to keep him alive.
You can say this guy was one of my best friends! I watched him change, I watched him recount his life and I watched him search for redemption.
I'll never forget his death.
RIP Salarian
Everytime I play this game and get to this scene, I know what's about to happen... But I always cry. Every damn time. He was like my best friend. The impact this scene had on me is the biggest over any game I've ever played by far.
For some reason Mordin's death hit's me harder than anyone else's death. I know what you mean.
me too
This literally destroys me everytime... :(
It's nothing in comparison to the renegade MONSTERS who shot him.
His face at 2:17 says it all. I suddenly got very choked up when he smiled because I knew then it was the right thing to do. He died a HERO.
This is easily my favorite game of all time. I have never connected as well with characters in any other game. Your entire squad is family, and loosing one of them brings the manliest tears out of me. Damn did i love this game, i have played about 4 playthroughs of this game thus far and i never regret replaying it for one second.
A replay of this game means that i can connect to the charachters once more.
Altough the ending of this game is pretty meh, every single minute you spend up until that point is so winderful.
There are many deaths in the series that made me shed some mantears, moridin being one of them, aswell as legion being another. Dammit do i love these two characters. Legions and Mordins death brings me to tears every time.
Out of every game i have played in my lifetime of 19 years, this is one of my favorite,
LevitatingApplejuice this wasn't just a video game it was a genuine work of art❤
My friend did his first ever trilogy playthrough recently and Mordin was his standout. He thought he was a meme cause of the camera changing in ME2 during his introduction, but quickly changed to his favourite character after some dialogue.
And when he sang in ME2 he laughed hard for quite some time, then ME3 came. I'll actually never forget hearing him sound so defeated when Mordin went up and when he started singing he burst out crying. This trilogy is legendary
this scene makes my eyes rain
Someone get Daniel some Aloe Vera cos he just got burned bad!
The writing in these games were insanely good.
1:04 it’s absolutely heartbreaking hearing Shepard say that. Mark Meer’s delivery was perfect.
There's no emotion behind it, what are you talking about?
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You should clean the wax out of your ears.
Mordin was a damn good man, he's a Salarian but dammit he was a good man. I hated letting him die.
The breath he takes at 1:37 is one of my favorite moments of this scene. Throughout ME2 and ME3 you get such a great sense about how conflicted Mordin was over his work on the genophage, and at that moment he has finally found peace with himself
I love how it's your character that says the "someone else might've gotten it wrong" line if you save Mordin.
I remember hearing about Mordin in the lead up to mass effect 2. I was like "Who the fuck is this guy? Why isn't someone badass like Kirrahe on the crew instead?"
Oh, how times have changed.
I love the pause in between his kind of catch phrase line here, "it had to be me.. someone else might have gotten it wrong"
I always liked that line. Mordin was always confident in his work, held himself accountable, embodied the "want it done right, do it yourself" attitude.
I think this one was different though. He says "it had to be me" because he has to make up for his own actions that he had struggled with for so long (hell, he gets over killing Maelon before getting aboard the Normandy but struggled for how long after releasing the genophage) and then "someone else might have gotten it wrong" is referencing himself, saying he was wrong before but this is his chance to make things right (different circumstances he hits you with that potent "i made a mistake!")
I think that's why he was so calm going into the end. This was him making his peace.
It speaks vibes to this series, that watching the death of an alien doctor can be so emotional.
Mordin should have been a romance option for FemShep. Just imagine it:
Kaidan: I don't get it. Why would she choose YOU?
Mordin. It had to be me. Someone else might have gotten it wrong.
Kaidan: Fuck you.
...
Plus this scene would have been even more emotional.
+Alexalmo you know that'll be very weird, it would be like a mid-late 20s girl would fall in love with a guy old enough to be her grandpa, mordin was very old for a salarian, they rarely live past 40 which is considered a very old age
*****
Not as weird as romancing Liara. For asari standards, she is merely a child. Romancing her would be pretty much pedophilia.
Why not romancing Wrex? I just can't imagine the hip bones of femshep after Wrex and her have sex.
Geekreg If she survives...
Alexalmo Indeed...
Paragon is much better than Renegade.
So true. Renegade is only good for when your character is being talked shit to
Renegade is only better when getting revenge on Kai Leng!
Yeah you want to go Paragon with a small amount of Renegade for when back talking is necsecary.
In mass effect 2 you can threaten some turian guard in Jack's recruitment that just watches some dude getting tortured and it's renegade
Mass Effect is very lenient with those "moral" sidechoices. You can easly get enough Morality Points for both Paragon and Renegade to always have all dialogue and action choices across all 3 games on first playthrough.
..."a scientist salarian..." *sniff*
Every single forced death in ME3 Made me cry... Legion if you chose to side with the Quarians "Does this unit... have.... a soul...."
Thanes final words and selfless sacrifice.
Mordin giving his life to undo the horror of a plague his species created... giving the krogan the future the deserve.
Anderson on the citidal... telling shepard how proud he is of him..
And the most powerful of all.. Tali... If you chose the geth... Seeing her crying and falling off that cliff, then thinking the paragon action will save her... only for it to give you false hope and see she has gone.
So many feels... so many man tears.... No other game or movie has ever made me cry, this game is something special.
*****
I know all this, thats why i said 'forced' death.
Teach angels to sing Mordin
I don’t think a video game will ever make me feel as much as this series did
"Someone else might've gotten it wrong" - Oh Mordin, you're awesome even charging towards death.
One of the absolute best moments in the entire previous generation.
In my playthrough I cured the Genophage, but both Mordin and the Female Krogan died, making it a powerful, wonderful bittersweet moment.
Mordin Solus was a goddamned hero.
I have always renegaded my way through every mass effect. But this was one instance I could not do it. I admired Mordin too much to make his sacrifice, in this scene, in vain.
...someone else might have gotten it wrong.Had to be him..
a moment of silence for a true hero and friend
I saw this before even playing Mass Effect. Now my heart hurts every time I go into the engineering room to talk to Mordin ...
There better be a Krogan companion called Mordin in Andromeda.
It is impossible because they've jumped into Andromeda between ME 2 and 3.
Nope Just Drack
... a scientist salarian.
Go find your seashells Mordin.
I love that Wrex, who probably has one of the most legitimate reasons to hold a grudge against Mordin for what he has done in the past, so readily announces to name one of his own future children after him, even if it’s a girl, it’s such wonderful sentiment and shows just how much he’s changed.
I cried. This game did so much well. Everything but the end was great.
I cried like a baby when he died. What the fuck is that. I'm so proud of him
....a scientist Salarian.
Oh God. The feels. STOP THE FEELS.
The homie Mordin! No!! The thing I noticed was his face as he sings. The look of fear and knowing that any second he's going to die. Got his facial expression perfect
I didn't cry when grunt died, I didn't cry when tali died, but when mordin, of all people, Mordin died, I cried like a baby...
I hope your studying seashells now Mordin.... We will miss you
+M's Game Lounge You killed Grunt and Tali? How could you? YOU MONSTER!
How did you get tali or grunt to die? I just finished my first playthrough and only ones that died were Jack and the Drell dude whose name i forgot. I Didn't do Drells loyalty mission and I sided with Miranda after Jack's misson.
Metro Gaming Tali can die if you side with the Geth and Grunt's death is actually pretty hard to pull off if you don't randomly do it by accident.
Omg dude you let Tali die
probably because mordin's sacrifice was much larger than himself. curing the genophage was a turning point in an entire species as well as the war with the reapers. up until this point in the game, the reaper war was a lost cause. this is the first time the heroes have hope.
I love how Wrex references his story of killing his father from Mass Effect 1.
One of the few times where I felt true sadness in a video game. Mordin was my #1 companion in ME2. I brought him everywhere. And seeing him go up and curing the Genophage and fixing what he helped start made me sit there for a good minute, paying my respects.
Mordin was, in fact, the very model of a scientist Salarian
2:52 when Vigil theme started was such a nostalgic moment, the feel that the Krogan had a new beggining the same feeling when i played Mass effect for the fist time
I had to stop a few mins when he Died....damn son :(
probably the most tragic loss for me in Mass Effect :((
Mordin's smile at the end... the peacefull finally in his heart. You were a truely hero my friend.
Often I wonder if there will ever be a any form of media that will offer the sheer epicness and involvement that the original mass effect trilogy did. RIP My scientist Salarian
I'm playing this whole series for the first time and i cried when i found out he was going to die, even worse i didn't get the singing part and when my husband told me i bawled even more.
Mordin was one of my favorite characters in the whole series. His sense of humor he intellect everything was just perfect. When I played through this scene for the first time 10 years ago I had to stop playing because I was actually crying so hard.
There was something wrong with my savegame and he didn't sing in this scene in my current playthrough. Imagine my disappointment.
That's exactly what I did.
Yep.
***** Just keep talking to him and he'll sing for you.
When you play Mass Effect 2, talk to him after his loyalty mission and make sure you ask him to sing.
"I'm not".
Mordin, a true hero.
the way he sings that sciency song before he dies..damnit mordin right in my goddamn feels
My girl seeing me get visibly sad at this scene: "I'm sure he's fine. You will go back to the ship, and he'll be in the med bay, prescribing thermal paste so you can f*** Edi"
As long as tali lives idc shes important shes precious
Mordin's teary eyed smile at 2:15 is everything. he knows he's dead, but he's so full of pride fr having done something genuinely *right*. ugh. i'm going to cry again.
Prompt: "I'll miss you."
Sheppard says: "I'm sorry."
Fuck you Mass Effect for never showing appropriate text!
This scene is 10 years old and I still have a tears in my eyes every time I see it... Mordin was old and
probably and wasn't going to live long but still... to go out like this; to sacrifice yourself, so countless
future generations have chance to live - that's meaningful! And to redeem past mistakes... that's more than
most of us could ever hope for! All of us die, but to to know that your death have meaning... that's marvelous!
My only regret is that in this version Mordin wasn't sinning in his last moments... what can you do; nothings
is perfect!
The second "Vigil" kicked in I was in tears. The perfect theme to underline the scope of what just happened. Not just the mere death of a beloved character, but the cure of the genophage. Mordin just ended something that was a huge part of the Mass Effect mythology up until this point. And let's be honest, most of us had been waiting for this for a long time. At least since having to talk Wrex out of turning against us back in ME1.
How do you do it BioWare? How do you make me feel like these characters are real people!? How the fuck can you kill my bro Mordin like that!?
Never has a scene in a video game absolutely wrecked me like this one.
Aw, you forgot to get him to talk about studying seashells earlier. It changes the dialog.
Breaks my heart everytime
Seven years, and this scene still makes me have manly tears.
In my first playthrough I was going full paragon. Wrex was alive and Eve was alive, but the Dalatras' offer had gotten to me. I didn't want to lose the Salarians, I was afraid without them the whole war would be a bust. I didn't mention the STG sabotage in the ride over, I was still mulling over what I wanted to do. Finally Mordin said he was going up to the tower and I told him to stand down. We argued, and then he finally spun on me and yelled "I MADE A MISTAKE." It shook me. We continued arguing, and he finally turned his back on me to go up to the elevator. The Renegade prompt came up to shoot him in the back. Usually those paragon/renegrade prompts only last a few moments, but this one just hung there. For what felt like 20 seconds as Mordin kept walking away in slow motion. My finger was on the trigger. I hesitated, finally swore, and let him go. He got on the elevator and cured the genophage. I teared up, not only because this whole sequence was so well done, but also out of shame. My Shepard was about to sell out his convictions, and Mordin didn't back down. The way things played out, Mordin saved my Shepard's soul.
Then 20 hours later I got a choice of 3 different colored explosions and did nothing but bitch online about it.
As I got to tell Jennifer Hale and Steve Blum, "people may have complained about the ending of GOT, but at least that HAD a ending."
I felt so emotional in this scene. I actually teared up quite abit. Bravo to the developers that doesn't happen to me. He went out like a true hero and scientist. I'm glad I got to hear him sing one last time
Mass Effect 3: The only game to make me cry.
A lot of sacrifices were made in the trilogy and I wasn't really invested in the krogan nurtured story arc. But this....damn man, it teared me up. Well done Bioware. You got into my feels with this.
Him singing the Guilbert and Sullivan to calm himself down because he is scared AF is what really broke me when I first saw it.
And he still has a time to sing.. 😢😢
“Would like to have run tests on the sea shells.” 😭
Years' passes i'm still crying, oh god why am i crying!?
Man tears were shed...
This death hit me right in the feels...
So long Mordin, one of my favorite video game characters ever.
I'll meet you at the bar old friend.
His death was the most moving in the whole series. I couldn't get over it. Mordin was a true hero.
The feels on the bus go round and round......../cry
In this day and age of people trying to deconstruct heroes, sometimes I have to comeback here to remind myself of what a hero is.
Honestly having heroes like this makes me love them more than any "deconstruction" tired to do. I know this is a old comment but the deconstructions lost their charm for me
mass effect 2 gave us the best compaions
mass effect 3 gave us ptsd by killing the best companions (rip thane, legion and mordin)
I'm not crying!! YOU'RE CRYING! *sniff
"will stabilize new government SHOULD Wrex get any ideas"
he's still roasting Wrex's dumbass as he faces certain death.
I FUCKING LOVE MORDIN.
of all the characters in mass effect franchise, Mordin is one of the best I really liked him throughout the gameplay both in mass effect 2 and 3, his humor and the way he talks, makes him one of the most memorable characters in video games.
One of the best scenes in all of mass effect. He gave his life to save a race
When I first played through this, it felt like watching a friend go off to die, and there was nothing I could do about it. This hurt
Of all the souls I have encountered in my travels, his was the most human.
Seeing that scene again gives me goosebumps, good goosebumps. And I remember the interview, and the wave of Krogan migration that followed (we learned about it from an email from Eve, and I think from the tactical PC).