MS Surface Pro 6 vs HP Spectre x360 13" Gem Cut (late 2018) Comparison Smackdown
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- čas přidán 12. 09. 2024
- Lisa Gade compares two popular high end Windows 2-in-1 laptop / tablets, the late 2018 HP Spectre x360 13” (gem cut) and the 2018 Microsoft Surface Pro 6. Both can be your main very portable PC and they have touch screens, pen support, quad core Intel 8th gen CPUs-so how do you decide? Watch to find out!
What our Microsoft Surface Pro 6 review here: • Microsoft Surface Pro ...
Watch our HP Spectre x360 13” Gem Cut here: • HP Spectre x360 13.3" ...
**Get the HP Spectre x360 13" on HP.com: bit.ly/2GfCATS
Love that you mention how you usually have a favorite in your smackdowns. The great thing is that you never really show it or give a biased presentation. You give it straight and I always leave your videos with a clear idea of pros and cons on every aspect to make a decision based on personal preference and circumstance!
Even though I always watch and appreciate your reviews, I'd really like to see specs written on-screen when you name them. It really makes it difficult to follow and try to remember all those specs without a visual aid. Hope you can find a way to do it.
This channel might be the only place on CZcams with actual constructive criticism😄
We often do put specs up for each, looks like we'll now do it for EVERY smackdown. Thanks for the feedback!
@@mobiletechreview Also, doesn't the surface come with a discount if you're a student or in education? Would be nice if you mentioned that, can always get an eligible friend to buy it for you with your money
@@mobiletechreview would be nice to do timestamp too
@francesco agreeee
Literally got the surface pro 6 for mostly drawing + other graphic design etc, and was peeved by how much I've had to spend on the extra products like the pen, keyboard, mouse etc which I was not expecting and also found out that the wacom pen that used to work with it no longer does (for the 2019 model), which I was hoping to buy vs the surface pen as it's more the style of pen i prefer, and was thinking about taking it back to swap for this laptop instead... so this review helps a tonne as really i need a laptop more than a tablet as I draw and also write and edit novels, plus also photography so need the photo editing too, which the surface is really hard to do with the keyboard compared to a laptop which im more used to, but really the price to me has been the biggest thing and it ended up being nearly double the price of the spectre with all the 2019 stuff that's come out as now, say the 2018 keyboard isn't compatible with the 2019 surface pro 6 and it's an extra $100 for literally being a few mm bigger and no real difference to the 2018 keyboard, so think this review has helped me make up my mind as so much more of the spectre would suit me and all the info and comparisons you've given on them helped me realise that, than to stay with the surface, so thanks!
Lisa, thanks for the smack down. I have the older Spectre and love it, I have also owned the SP6 for a couple of weeks (yeah, I like to cycle through a lot of computers) and if I were to settle on something it would be the Spectre. I am more of a person that needs a decent laptop, hook it up to an external display and enjoy. I am not a carry it around type of person, though even in a coffee shop I like to have it just in laptop format. I do like the Spectre screen a lot as well. But still I would like to see something like a 3:2 as the SP6 gives but a tad larger. Right now I am using a powerful Surface Book 1 and the Spectre together, because.... I cannot decide either :-)
Any news of the HP spectre 15" gem review with the GTX 1050?
I'm also interested in this! Or perhaps also a comparison with the Spectre 15" and Dell XPS 2 in 1.
Bought it, complete trash!! I took it back the very next day.
@@raghdaelziyadi3209 Why was it complete trash?
@@raghdaelziyadi3209 yeah what made it trash? I've been looking forward to this laptop review, as on paper it looks excellent.
As soon as I bought it, I started to set it up, I noticed that the screen colors were a bit off , they looked burned out, but I didn’t mind it that much. So I opened like three tabs on chrome, It started heating like crazy so I shut it down for a few hours, restarted it, and began to do some minor tasks and catching up on assignment and by minor I mean only Microsoft word, it made a weird static noise, I literally Thought it was going to explode at any moment. It was quite disappointing because I’ve been waited for the gem cut version for a while now! When I took it back the IT guy told me that I shouldn’t use it on a fabric Surface. Btw I got the 1080p version with the privacy kill switch, which only works from one angle, And anyone next to you can see what you’re working on. Also the trackpad is a bit loose it makes a Ticking sound during motion!!
5 of the 6 newer hp computers I've owned have tanked within 4 months after warranty. Supposed motherboard error, kernel issue, or right after a required "update". Yet, my 2 old desktop hp computers from back in the day are running just fine.
the way their making things today aren't like they use to; 3-5 decades ago. you have to understand the world is in demand faster and faster than the speed of light, so keeping up with the latest is vital to many and not to some, but carefully knowing what your buying. Nowadays everything is base on : LOW END, MID-RANGE or High-End, you choose how you want to spend, but everything becomes OBSOLETE the moment it's out the box
Phenomenal content as always. Honestly nobody on youtube gets close to you when it comes to these kinds of detail-heavy videos comparing competitors, or even just reviews in general. Fantastic stuff.
A device in this category needs 1) An accessible battery that can be replaced and, 2) Type C/TB3 for mobile charging. Otherwise, you're spending on a $2000 portable device that will have limited portability after 2 years. After years using an SP3, this is an unavoidable reality that should be factored into the purchasing evaluation.
Where ever the Surface Pro starts in terms of battery life, eventually you'll only get 2-3 hours of unplugged use (light use). Also, the battery I/O seems to be unstable (sometimes it doesn't recognize that it's being charged). Considering the device itself is still good enough to be my full-time work computer when plugged in, it's a shame that I can't really take it anywhere without the power brick. And since Microsoft won't give us Type-C, there's no slow charging with a portable battery.
I love the Surface line but Microsoft is holding back way too much on the specs at this point in the game and the "fan tax" is up there with Apple products so I can't recommend them right now.
I hope Microsoft gets back in the game with the SP7, SB3, and Studio 3. Right now, they're worse than Apple when it comes to outdated hardware at next-generation pricing.
Microsoft have recently introduced an adaptor that adds a USB-C connector to your Surface Pro...
www.technoworld.com/microsoft-hvu-00003-surface-connect-usb-c-black-cable-interface-gender-adapter
(But you would need to check if it works with SP3. Microsoft say it works with "the latest Surface Pros" - not very specific! - apparently the SP4 works though they don't mention it). It is expensive at $80
I purchased the Surface Pro 6 bundled at Costco, replacing a dead iPad and a 10 year old Lenovo that still is churning. I am very pleased with the 6. I wanted to be able to run office and turbotax but mostly use it as a tablet when watching tv. An office laptop given to me so i don't complete work on the 6. The picture quality and screen size are much better than the iPad and portability is the same. There are not many cases out there that allow the kickstand to work and the one I did purchase fits fine but the pen does not fit in the holder. As with the iPad you have to buy a case, the 6 would not withstand any drop without damage IMHO.
Your reviews and smackdowns are the best , no one does it better than you. Please do a smackdown between Huawei Matebook X pro and HP Spectre x360 gem cut.
Great smackdown Lisa ! I love 2-1 laptops. Really like my XPS 15 2-1 but the Gem cut looks so nice, they did a really good job on the styling.
Your videos are awesome. Truly feel like I'm getting answers to questions I should be asking. keep up the great work
Lisa, if you are a small business, Microsoft provides nice discounts, I received $350 for i7,16GB model
How do you apply?
How??
@@lilcodec46 check with your Microsoft Store, you need to have a business with documentation that you have a business
My original surface book is now literally falling apart after 5 years. Even the magnesium chassis is flexing and the screen is coming off on one side.
HP still has huge cooling issues, what is their problem, can they ever ever fix this?
Yes!!! I’ve been waiting for thisssss!!! Thank youuuu
Shouldn't this go against the surface laptop or surface book?
Hi Lisa, do you have a review on Surface Book 2 vs HP Spectre X360 13 gem cut? Also what you recommend. I do some photo editing and video editing for my CZcams. Thank you
But the Spectre is so pretty!
I MUST know where you got your hoodie! Please?
How about a smackdown HP Spectre x360 13" Gem Cut vs Huawei Matebook Pro X? Price is now exactly the same at $1299?
Still waitin for LG Gram 2 in 1 2019 comin to my country, and of course your review about that machine tho 🙏🏻
I bought the HP laptop and ended up having to return it. I had many issues with the Wi-Fi. I was getting very slow downloads. I went through the full spectrum of troubleshooting on my own and with support. They were not able to get it resolved and after four days I decided to return the $2000 plus laptop. The issue definitely was not with my wireless router as when I used an external Wi-Fi adapter my speeds went from 20 Mbps to 200 Mbps. In addition to this, the file transfers were much slower than I would have expected. Too many issues out of the gate to risk getting stuck with a lemon.
I too just bought the HP and had some QA issues with them. I really love this thing so I ended up returning mine a total of 3 times, for 4 new units before I got one that was good to go. From speaker issues, like left side completely stopped working, touch pad poor installation, and finally overheating issues on the last one, the fans never stopped it was insane. All that, I did notice the last one, and one I kept, seemed like it may have been on the shelf longer as there was a substantial amount of more updates it needed than the others. I will say, now that I've got a "good" one, I'm very impressed and it's functionality is top notch. I'm glad I went through the trouble of returning it and very glad I purchased through my local BestBuy. I generally buy everything on-line, but in this case it was worth it to just be able to drive back the to store and exchange it. I did all the exchanges in 2 days! Thanks BESTBUY!! Now, HP has some work to do on their QA for sure, disappointing that they have so many faulty units out there, so if you buy one, do it somewhere where you can exchange it easily and don't settle for nothing less than perfection, they can do and for the price I wouldn't make any compromises.
Thank for the review! One question, btw the Tilt pen of the HP and the Surface pen, which one work better? And more worthy? Thanks!
I love your thorough reviews! ❤️❤️❤️❤️
Lisa: How do you get these laptops that you review? Do you have to buy each one or are the manufacturer's providing them for you to review. Thanks
Omg YeahISaidIt She gets loaner unit for reviews.
Hey Lisa,
Have you taken apart the Spectre 13" or at least taken the bottom off to look at the Heatsink? I was just curious since you mentioned that they tamed the thermals a bit on this model but it seems to have the same two tiny vents at the back as the 2017 model.
Thank you for this informative review. I would like to know more about the webcam quality as the quality on the previous spectre x360 is really really bad. I am thinking of an upgrade should that feature be improved.
Thanks in advance
How's the durability on both? For example, if I carry them in my backpack and accidentally drop my bag? Or if I drop it with no protection by accident? How are the screens if there's pressure pressed upon it like it a stuffed backpack? How much will it curve? How much can it handle? I will do a lot of travelling with one of them. They are both good, so I think a lot of the deciding factor will come to the durability of it.
Thanks in advance for the info!
Thank you, now i know that Im going to buy the SF pro 6. I love the job that you are doing - Im about to become a fan.
Nice video! Looking forward to your review on the new Dell XPS 13!
what about palm rejection at hp's screen when using the pen?
Will you do a video on the Matebook 13? Might be my next computer. Maybe compare it to Matebook X, as the 13 is a lower starting price.
My daughter has a surface pro 4. Before I passed it down to her, I used it for a few months on a daily basis (before I went to the dark side, Mac, yes). I used it exactly one time as a tablet. It's a cool idea...and the form factor wasn't terrible...it's just Windows on a tablet is better in theory than actual practice (I didn't use the pen though....maybe if someone is going to draw on it, it would be a different story)...
Hi Lisa, can you do a review of HP Envy x360 with Ryzen 5 or 7? Thank you!
I got that 13 inch laptop as welllll
How's the battery life?
My fave channel for PC reviews
Is that a mass effect paragon jacket?
Love this you answered so many questions I wanted to know. I think I'll go with the HP it's sexy.
Love your vids
I'm curious
What would you recommend for digital arts
Already have a Samsung Galaxy Tab s4 for entertainment, gaming and watching stuff online,like hulu and Netflix
I had the surface pro 4 for digital arts, was thinking of getting the surface pro 6 i7,use art programs and 3d art programs
........ Samsung tab s4 is exceptional for digital art.
Artflow, medibang, Ibis paint, sketchbook, etc, you can make it work.
Please do a HP Spectre x360 13" (late 2018) vs. Dell XPS 13 9380!
3:00 Lisa can you please tell me how did you connected the pen with bluetooth!??? HP website offers zero info about it.
Get the Spectre if you like fan noise
Would definitely be on team Spectre Gem Cut if only it didn't have those bezels. They pretty much kill it for me :/
Looking up for your review of the Lenovo S940 when it comes out, seems to be the new champion in the "almost bezeless" 13inch laptop !
As always, stellar vid !
Asus zenbook is the bezeless champion
Bezels are useful when you use it as a tablet, but I do think it looks better without them though
Any plans to review the Asus Zenbook ux533/433? It looks like a really nice device that nobody is talking about
2019 thinkpad x1 yoga will rule them all!
Only that they have changed the material
New to this Channel, but could I make a request to make a smackdown between the new HP Elitebppk x360 as well as the Dell Latitude 7400 2-1, when they come out in March. It wouldn't just really help me, but they are in the same categorie. Thanks!!!
Any word on when HP might make the 1w display available for the 13 inch model?
Hi I have hp pavilion 360 touch with pen. I read Microsoft makes their pen. So can I use the same pen for Microsoft surface go Pentium?
Could you review LG GRAM 14 2x1 (2019)... Looking to make a decision before Feb end so asking. Hopefully Samsung 9 pro update releases by then.
I have the surface pro 6
How is the spectre x360 different from the x2? Does one outperform the other?
x2 has a removable keyboard like the Surface Pro.
Love u and your videos
Does the Surface Pen work on the Hp Spectre?
where did u get your microphone . can u give me a link
Here's a question -- why would HP go with an off center trackpad on the XPS 15 gem cut?
Here's an answer: HP doesn't have anything in their lineup called XPS. ;)
@@erzascralet48 Oh that's just a result of HP getting hot and XPSing to Dell.
Do Hp Spectre x360 Covertible 13-ap0050 i7 -8565U has Gorilla Glass Display ?
The HP looks nice but WHY do computer companies still insist on putting those stupid stickers on them? I can see it for store display units but it makes a great design look absolutely stupid when there are big stickers on there like the Intel one or even worse when they have multiple stickers tell you what processor you have, how much ram, hard drive, display size, etc.
The HP was nice to look at but the second I saw that stupid decal it was like walking up to a nice looking car and you found a giant bird poo on it along with the dealership that sold it putting their name on the back as a glued on piece as well as a sticker in the corner of the rear window.
@Josh Arma
Rarely some will come off nice and clean. Most leave adhesive residue or are made from cheaper materials that are more paper than plastic and you end up with a mess that you should have just left alone. Or you end up spending 15 minutes with a hair dryer or alcohol or even a razor blade to get them off. Soaking the paper ones with dish soap only works sometimes.
Its almost like you don't live in the real world or somehow you are somehow lucky enough to never buy anything with decals or stickers that don't readily come off or really ever come off without leaving residue, shredded paper from the decals or even a slightly discolored spot that in some lighting you will always see where the decals were no matter how well you clean them
I could send you a variety of stickers if you want and you can slap them on the hood of your car and them tell me, "umm.. stickers are removable".
Thanks for the stupid answer though.
@@mjs28s Isopropyl alcohol works well for removing sticker goo (plus a little fingernail to scrape at the goo). Cheap and easy to source in the first aid department and won't hurt metal finishes. I'm not a fan of the stickers either, but it's an agreement between Intel and the manufacturers to put them there.
Uhh... car dealers do have their name and services plastered on the windscreen and license plate holders.
Can u compare about asus s13 and yoga s940 please?
The worst laptop to buy...Purchased this HP 13 360...diamond cut in March 2019....and it generated heating issue within one month usage....(means laptop emits high level of heat 45 Celsius /113 Fahrenheit and shutdown automatically)...and tested by HP engineer..saying....it is as per design ....heat is normal....m stuck with this piece of junk....No support from HP at all..bullshit
That is why I am afraid to buy it, a lot of people complain about this. On the other hand don't know what to buy?
Really helpful reviews - I wish you would compare the speakers/sound quality, too, for those of us who like to watch movies, netflix, listen to music, etc. (I like good speakers/sound on a computer and don't always want to have to wear headphones or use external speakers). I don't know why anyone would ever buy a surfacepro since they can not be repaired - what a waste of money, not to mention an awful machine for the environment.
13 inch HP dont have 4k res right ? 4k and 2gb graphics is only for 15inch model
No, you can get a 4k screen on the 13" model (if you choose that configuration) - just no dedicated GPU on the 13" model.
In all honesty, with a screen that small and no dedicated GPU you may as well save yourself the extra cash and go for the 1080p panel - the difference shouldn't be too obvious on a 13" panel (as opposed to, say, a 23" monitor) and you'll get better battery life to boot.
Having thunderbolt means you can connect it to an eGPU though.
I want both. But I also want the Dell XPS 15... Grrr, I'll stick to the Surface and the Dell...
I have the Sp6 and i use most of the time taking down notes in one note or watching Netflix. Video playback is really good but onenote drains battery like anything! It starts throttling after 45mins of use and can use it probably for 4-5hrs straight only. I'm worried nothing can help me
UWP or desktop OneNote? The UWP version is doing much better batterywise on my Surface Go than the desktop version…
@@MatthiasHeil the uwp itself. It can stand for straight hours
I actually have a bit of a problem and hope that community will be able to help ;)
So, i am going to upgrade my laptop soon and i want something i can draw on this time.
I am pretty convinced that i want the Thinkpad X1 Tablet, i love the form factor. However, aside from testing surface devices on a microsoft stand in store, I am actually unsure about something.
That something is - is the tablet from better for drawing? Or would 2 in 1 with a 360 degree hinge be better in that case? The other device i though about was specte x360 (15 inch, if i have an option, i will always opt for a bigger screen). The best possibility would be to get a surface book 2, but they are way to expensive, and i could get a pretty nice deals on both X1T and Spectre. Anybody had a chance to use both devices?
Soldium A tablet is better for drawing. So if you intend on drawing, Surface has a better pen. Although keep in mind most professional artists use dedicated drawing tablets from Wacom, Huion etc rather than 2in1s. Both the Lenovo and the Surface have great keyboards, but Lenovo swaps the places of the ctrl and fn keys, but may have a slight edge in the keyboards. But Lenovo has worse speakers, dimmer screen, and may be more expensive.
@@transitvideosbayarea Thanks for the answer ;)
I know that i will need something that's big, i've got workstation-class PC for 3D. Drawing as a hobby now but want to learn and do 2D animation. I just need to upgrade my mobile work tool so i might get something that's actually useful for drawing ;)
The Metropolis How do people use wacom and similar devices? You can’t see what you draw like on the surface pro.
I know next to nothing about wacom.
@@hryank33 You can? It's like the Surface, you draw directly on the screen and lines appear? You just have to transfer the picture to a computer later to upload or to save it. Except dedicated tablets have less latency and generally make for a more enjoyable experience.
The Metropolis I know there is one with a screen but it is like $600 but the $90 one it is just a black slate and you have to look at the computer screen to see what you are drawing. That is what I don’t get how people do that, but then they probably gotten used to it.
You have got a great RAM😮
Yet I can't decide?
Streaming 4k I can see your pet fur on your sweater. :) Amazing video!
My surface pro 2017 (Core i5, 8gb, 256gb) was great when I bought it but the costs racked up quickly to add to the £1250 I paid for the thing itself. Type cover, pen, dock and a variety of dongles and cables soon racked the total cost up to over £1800. But just over a year after I bought it the battery began to tank, and then the device itself. Completely unusable now. Would never buy another one again, which is a shame, because when it was good it was really good.
Sorry to hear your experience. Have a Surface Pro 2017 and Surface Go and can't imagine buying another brand (former Apple Macbook owner). For me, all the Surface accessories can be used across both Surface devices making the transition from mobile to desktop mode easy. Have had zero issues with either device thus far.
maybe time to try using your warranty for a free, or reduced priced battery change.
Should have bought the Surface Book mate for that £1800 price point.
I had battery issues with mine, not everybody does though. I ended up getting an exchange. RMA was really smooth. Took like 5 days to send it off and receive the new one. Shouldn't have happened in the first place but the replacement has been great so far.
@@constantinosschinas4503 I bought it in July 2017, and it deteriorated from about September 2018 onwards, by which time it was out of warranty.
I don't like the look of the HP - it has an old fashioned "exec" trinket look about it. Anyway, like the Surface Pro, but would rather go for a thinkpad X1 yoga.
Still I'm not interested in buying SP, bcaz NO USB C!!!!!!!!WITH Thunderbolt though
You’re a left handed just like me😁
Looked like she had her cat on her before she shot that video.
I have the x360 top spec with AMD vega, one thing I can say is that their customer support sucks oh and dont expect it to support windows 10 pro EVER it WONT work with this laptop period.
Surface Laptop 2 vs Spectre?
Followed your review back in 2013 for Sony Vaio laptop, an ultrabook..regretted your recommendation so badly later.
why does hp advertise up to 21 hours battery life on playback HD video, what a scam
Tried to love the Surface Pro 6, but three units exhibited heavy screen bleeding throughout. Unacceptable for a "Pro" product.
the fragileness of these pcs with flickering etc. is much needed to be highlighted vs. these sufacely only reviews.
All ultrabooks seem to have some sort of issue. Yet they are still the largest in demand and the only growing sector in the PC space (including MacBooks).
I love my Samsung Notebook 9! 4k! 256 SSD! i7-6700HQ. Just bought it for super cheap brand new! $700. Who cares if its a 6700? I dont notice it. That screen! Pure love! Lisa recommended so I purchased. Thx Lisa! Blow either one of these laptops away! Her review. www.mobiletechreview.com/notebooks/Samsung-Notebook-9-Pro.htm
Easily the x360. one thing reviews usually never mention is longevity and repairability. good luck replacing the surface pro's battery/screen etc.
once the battery in the surface pro gets old it's just a very expensive brick. not even third parties offer battery replacements and neither does Microsoft. Depending on your usage prepare to throw it out in 2-3 years. if you're unlucky or do a ton maybe even 1.5 yaers (unlikely unless you drain it to 0 and charge it to 100% everyday)
on the other hand if the x360's battery dies you can even do it at home. the display is more hard to replace but if you really want to you can do it at home or just give it to a third party simply.
Chloe Mcholoe HP's DOA Team is really kind as well they offered me 7 replacements lol
Like the cat hair on your hoodie
I was horrified, but we didn't want to re-shoot the entire video. I totally forgot that I shouldn't pick up the cat when wearing black before filming a video.
No no, don't be; this is part of your channel. I didn't mean to criticize. It is relatable for me since i also had a cat.
Good review, and a cute style shirt you look 👀 great
Fuck the Surface Pro. Don't get me wrong, it's hot and is an amazing device, (probably the best).
But....
WHY WON'T YOU INCLUDE A PEN?
WHY WON'T YOU INCLUDE A *KEYBOARD* !?!?
*SO. OVERPRICED.*
Nits?
Brightness basically. Nit (nt) is a non-SI name also used for this unit (1 nt = 1 cd/m2). en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Candela_per_square_metre
@@user93237 I know what nits are/is. I was asking the channel what the nits were of the two review units.
@@n.i.5381 Check out our full reviews of each on our channel to get the nits for each.
Here for the future.
that's a dope hoodie
BEZELS!
Earth is despacito
There is no comparison. HP Spectre x360 completely outclasses MS Surface Pro 6.
If you like whirring fans, a hot lap and a heavy bag everyday.
HP make the X360 with a 3:2 aspect ratio and take my money please 🙏
Surface pros are a throw away laptop....
Earth is round. Lol
Giveaway😁
Oh yeah yeah
that dark ash HP is classy, mat black not so much. and fingerprint s ugh... I don't like devices I can't upgrade myself. an right there thats a hands down win for the hp. An these days Microsoft is adding less an less in the box, no pen no keyboard slacking on upgrade ports an still a 4 to 500 dollar diff? Seems to me Microsoft is reaching new iPad heights wit less an less
to offer...HANDS DOWN HP.... Thanks Lisa
Microsoft are not a quality product, Don't buy waisted my money, specter is sure better built and of a better quality,
Two different products still surface wins!
Price Diffrence?
@@FarmerJuan24 for few hundred you gain alot like better screen, tech, mobility so on
It really depends on use case. For people that intend to use it on their lap a lot, or need USB-C Thunderbolt 3 if only for future proofing, it may be wiser to get the HP.
NO USB-C WITH THUNDERBOLT ON THE SURFACE - NOT BUYING. End of discussion.
HP design is horrible.
How? Could you provide examples?
May Allah guide you all to the truth.