Sampan Hitch - How to Tie the Sampan Hitch - Quick Release Mooring Hitch Tutorial
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- Sampan Hitch - How to Tie the Sampan Hitch - Quick Release Mooring Hitch Tutorial
In this short video, I will transport you to the East and you will see how to tie the Sampan Hitch. As you will see in the video in the first method of tying the Sampan Hitch, the actual knot is tied fairly hard against the mooring ring. However, when I read the description in Ashley's Book of Knots, I wonder if the actual knot was tied on the deck of the moored vessel?
The wonderful thing about the Sampan Hitch is that it is another mooring hitch that has a quick release system. Obviously with any quick release knot there is a possibility that the slipped hitch could be accidentally released. Tucking the end of the working line or inserting a toggle into the quick release hitch would make this knot more secure.
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as i'm a landlubber, i can't really tell how useful it is on a boat. but this is, in contrast to the imitation bowline not a fixed loop but a cinching loop. so wouldn't this knot just wander off your boat towards the ring if you tied it aboard, as soon as your vessel puts strain on your standing end, or am i getting something wrong?
Hmmm, here's what I'm thinking, if you are going to to shore and back with the rope with the disadvantages of having to pull all the line, which could be any length, around the post or ring why not just go around the post and back to the cleat? I think a good quick release needs to be tied on a bight so you have hold of the rope at the point it comes aboard. This leaves all excess rope on deck and with the least pulling in.
I like the second one.
Sampans are small boats, it's likely the mooring is in easy reach, say half a meter or less. If this is the case there is no on the boat vs. on the dock issue, it's just a hitch tied between the boat and the dock. If it's tied on any length of line it would make more sense to have it closer to the boat to avoid shenanigans, besides the free end has to be tied off otherwise it will just fall into the water. There is no quick relelase if you can't find the end. Having a long loop in the center might allow the hitch to work itself free over time if tension is not constant, so the free end in the slipped bight makes sense.
Thanks for the video. The highwayman's hitch has been my go to quick release hitch till now, it's all ways good to have options.
I am sure that one day, someone from that part of the world will come along and tell us exactly how it was used. A thousand years ago I was in Singapore and HK, where there were thousands of these vessels. I think now there are not so many and they are slowly becoming part of history.
The sampan pier in the old days was not what you thought. You assumed the mooring points are up on the top of the pier. The sampans are tied usually to other sampans, so there could be up to 10 sampans tied one to the other. The occupants then step onto the pier by walking through the broad higher back end of the sampans.
In other places, they'd tie them to rings on high vertical sea walls. On river banks, they'd be tied to trees or tree roots.
Sorry for late reply. I remember Singapore a thousand years ago now, every inch of water was either a floating home or a fishing boat of sorts. Sadly no more. Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated.
I think you'll be happier with a slipped bowline. It's simpler and more stable than the Sampan.
I think if it were me, I would use the Imitation Slipped Bowline: czcams.com/video/i1KSZfSGEPg/video.html However my task is to show all different knot.
I like tying a taut line hitch on a bight, when tying to a ring. That way you can snug the boat up to the dock but still release kind of easy, and the line is in the boat.
I would never have considered using the Taught Line Hitch for doing that. Does the rocking and jerking of the boat not cause slippage within the knot?
It works for boats on a lake not sure about at sea. It is a little less quick release since you pull outward the bight instead of the working end.
Taking knots from one form of arena to another is always interesting to hear about. Thanks for letting me know.
Do you have a video on the highway mans hitch or canoe man hitch
Here is the highwaymans hitch: czcams.com/video/xN2wdp0Wvj8/video.html You may also be interested in the painter hitch: czcams.com/video/TUwSJ_56SoI/video.html
The biggest advantage I see for the second way is that you don't have to worry about your releasing end falling in to the water and having to retrieve it.
Not a problem in the Summer month, but the thought of handling wet rope in the winter, brrrrr!
I was always under the impression that this was used for keeping the rudder stick secured when it wasn't in use... I could be wrong.. I will check now you have asked the question.
I prefer to think that you could be right! May I ask where you would look for this information, or do you have a direct line to a Sampan in HK?
I watched a documentary many years ago and it followed a family who lived in the river and I remember them trying the handle back by feeding it through a hole in the stick when they moored up.
I am now trying to find the documentry.. It was many years ago when I used to watch anything lol.
My step brother lives in HK so I will ask him to find out for certain if this is still used and how.
If you get the name of the documentary, would love to know that name. I do like different lifestyle docs.
I actually like this hitch because I could quickly untie our dingy rather than untying a bowline
It would be really good if you used it and maybe one day come back and let me know how you got on with this hitch?
When I try it and I’ll tell you how I like it
Hi Johnny, thanks for your videos. I just tried this knot and for the second version (with the big loop): When I pull on the standing end the big loop closes and the knot would be on the jetty. Did I do it wrong?
Mmm, best I have another go and see what I get?? Will get back to you.
What's the name given to the tool you have in the video?
That is a Marlin Spike as it is made of metal, if made of wood, it is called a Fid. I have some more info on the tools here: igkt-solent.co.uk/knotting-tools/ If you are after a good tool, let me know what country you are in and I will see who is near you that makes them.
Thanks! I'm in Queensland Australia... I'm learning to do splicing and that tool looks just the thing for the job :) Will check out the website too...thanks for your video...really well presented and informative :)
@@lis819 Australia, Australia, we love you! You may want to contact Philip as he lives in NSW, he may be able to help with tools?? He can be contacted via this site: bloodknot.bigcartel.com/
Cheers Mate! Great hitch it all depends on the situation and the length of line you have to play with. As you may be aware these are poor sandpan sailors who have not much resources. Hence they may tie the hitch closer to the point on land.
After making this knot 20 times it appears to be a slip knot as well
I learnt this knot, but never really got on with it. It was so long ago now, I do not remember what the issue was?? Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated.
Even if the hitch slides you won't lose the boat (assuming working end bight is not loosened out of standing end). It just means you have get off the boat.
It only moves with very slippery rope, it will hold in a rope with grip and well dressed.
It isn't a slip knot, it is a noose knot ... slipknot will untie, this noose will tighten on the ring/post/spar. Even if it slides to spar you will not lose your boat.
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Doesn’t make much functional sense to tie a boat up with, might as well cleat both ends up, I can see it being used to raise a pole or something like that.
Well personally I think I would prefer the Imitation Slipped Bowline for ease of use. But there again if it is well used in the East, must be a good reason? Thanks again for checking in and leaving a comment.
I guess if you want to cast off without having to get off your sampan to take the rope off the cleat at the dock, this makes sense. But I like the idea of having the knot on my boat like the second method.
Claude Van Horn , cleats on your boat.
Omg..this guy taljs too much..repeats himself..takes forever to complete a knot...im done...there are much better posters ...
What "this guy" does is explain everything in great detail - if he repeats himself, it's to clarify a point that he believes might be confusing - which is precisely what you want a great teacher to do. Many viewers need slow, methodical instructions to grasp the subject , particularly when manual dexterity is required. This guy is great at what he does, whether he suits your style or not.
I agree with Richard, Johnny is my go to for learning knots on CZcams. His videos are always very well done with clear voice, just the right amount of time spent explaining the knots, and good clean materials. And he doesn't present an uppity attitude. We're always learning. It's interesting to learn the knots history and potential uses.
Besides, he's got a cool name!
Gave up three minutes in ...
i hate this knot
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@@KnottingKnots of course ;) but this, knot so much!
@@Steve_Just_Steve I personally do not like it, as I seem to have a mental block when it comes to tying it. Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated.