North Koreans Are HAPPIER Than South Koreans! REALLY?!?
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Michael Malice reacts to a pro-North Korea statement and discusses his anarchist perspective.
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You have been trooled by Michael
There are computers in North Korea, it's just a closed Internet.
@@blokeVB Agreed - he sounds like a Trojan propagandist.
I dont know if NK is evil or good... What i know that everything that was told bad about NK to me from childhood is a result of western sanctions... Simple, all you have to do is put to list everything you know about BK, then look up sanctions and try to figure out with a basic common sense, which sanctions caused what... Litteraly, on some you dont even need to have IQ above 80
WWell that's 24 minutes of my life ill never get back! Who the fuck cares about this topic?
Westerners should be concerned about their own populace not North Koreans, not Russians not Iran's not Chinese.
what an alien concept. ..but how they gonna bring democracy
But…but… Populism bad !
"Westerners" dont control our own media, banks, legal system or govt. We are living under proxy rule.
EXACTLY!
that is full of crap for conspiracy theories.North Korea is not a happy country.The country is a emotional psycho dictatorship that repress their people.And also South Korea that people are depressed due to society in their country. And the media is also full of garbage.
Ever since I moved to Vietnam, I question everything the media says about other countries.
It's great there. Some my friends stayed there. So you're right
What are you talking about? Vietnam is barely talked about and nithu really negative about the country. They've been trying to increase tourism for years.
I had friends from Vietnam that remember the French occupation and the war to kick them out.
Then the CIA brought more war and coup by killing their president.
Everything we were told was a lie.
I believe my friend who lives in South Philadelphia with his children.
80% of his family died in that war.
Go to China or Russia. It'll blow your mind
not Americans but those who escape it
"The paradox of our time in history is that we have taller buildings but shorter tempers, wider freeways , but narrower viewpoints. We spend more but have less, we buy more but enjoy less. We have bigger houses and smaller families, more conveniences, but less time. We have more degrees but less sense, more knowledge but less judgment, more experts yet more problems, more medicine but less wellness." ~George Carlin
👏👏👏👍
Saying that corporations don't control the military is very naive
Yep. Their prefered tactic. Put their wars on our bill. Seem to have Gill control these days. But no new concept. United fruit company going to the president to fight the "evil commies" who's denocratilvky elected president dared to grant their land they was not even using to poor and hungry do they could survive. They Will do it anyways, but preferably on our costs. These times are even worse, if you watch where our money goes to serf what and who, behind the same old bs salespitches we like so much.
Didn't they tell us Trump would get us into ww3 with N. Korea?
Depends if u still have a TV or watch MSM.
They also told us "safe and effective".
that is full of crap for conspiracy theories.North Korea is not a happy country.The country is a emotional psycho dictatorship that repress their people.And also South Korea that people are depressed due to society in their country. And the media is also full of garbage.
@XHALE303 wow degrees of creative avoidance eh? Lol😂
@@theywouldnthavetocensormei9231 tens of millions of Americans STILL, MSM, corporate oligarchy, establishment government aka fascism mind slaves suffering Stockholm Syndrome
Imagine watching MSNBC as if it was actual News what type of mindset that would take
I know,weird
A high level of double-think seems necessary to believe that. These people simultaneously believe they consume the only "reliable" media sources while also being too afraid to ever hear a single independent media voice.
Same type of mindset it takes to watch FOX NEWS and believe it’s really news.
@@leeanderson5955 exactly but MSNBC is far worse than Fox but they are equally against the real News that exists
Main Stream Media is nasty.
Part of the CLUB
What if the USA got out of South Korea and allowed the Koreans to reunite? What if the USA got rid of 1000 military bases worldwide and spent the money instead on getting along with other countries and promoting economic ties with other countries?
Hey hey hey ! Watch it with that crazy thinking
It is an evil satanic empire (i might be offending satan) they do not want to leave the rest of the world alone . the goal is to create misery everywhere, it promotes corruption of the society and helps them keep the world under their feet
It is an evil satanic empire (i might be offending satan) they do not want to leave the rest of the world alone . the goal is to create misery everywhere, it promotes corruption of the society and helps them keep the world under their feet
It is an evil satanic empire (i might be offending satan) they do not want to leave the rest of the world alone . the goal is to create misery everywhere, it promotes corruption of the society and helps them keep the world under their feet
It is an evil satanic empire (i might be offending satan) they do not want to leave the rest of the world alone . the goal is to create misery everywhere, it promotes corruption of the society and helps them keep the world under their feet
I’ve been to the China-DPRK border and it’s not “electrified”. People go across the Yalu River bridge all the time at Dandong.
Ya, but they have snipers and stuff in the hills.
BS! Just look at this "authority" on North Korea, the author's surname, @@TheMysteryDriver.
@@Tippitiwitch I'm not even quoting this guy. It's known. Just like the Chinese drive trucks to the border and then they're carried by hand into NK.
Really? Have you actually crossed it yourself?? If so, this would be a major achievement on a bridge which has no pedestrian crossing. 😂😂😂
A victory over Zionism is a victory for humanity
Facts! 💯
that is full of crap for conspiracy theories.North Korea is not a happy country.The country is a emotional psycho dictatorship that repress their people.And also South Korea that people are depressed due to society in their country. And the media is also full of garbage.
I don’t know what that has to do with South Korea but ok, I agree with you.
@MsAppassionata the worldwide economic, war, pharma, conquest, natiral resources pyramid is driven by British Z eye awn ist banking and of course American Wall Street/ Pentagon AIPAC Z eye awn ist war mongering who have named the list of nations they want to destroy because they don't have a Z eye awn ist central.banking system in those nations or theyvwantvthose natural resources within. .Iran, North Korea, etc. Don't be naive. This has gone on at least 200 years based from " City of London" Financial district which is dominated by Rothschild Z eye awn ism...
Palestein the parking lot
I was corrected by a Russian friend when claiming Citizens of the DPRK can't leave. She told me that tens of thousands of North Koreans live and work in the Russian Federation and send money home.
The ones that are allowed to. Have you ever read any books by escapees? Has your Russian friend? I've read a lot of books written by DPRK escapees. And it's not true just anyone can leave the country. Only those with favorable songbun can leave but not permanently.
They work as laborers in the Russian Federation to pay back debt to Russia.
@@AxionSmurf If u cared so much about the poor people of DPRK u would be on the streets marching against the sanctions, but u are not, so why don't u get back to ur cave and read some of those fancy books of urs.
they obviously need to get permission. how many North Koreans have you met vacationing in Miami Beach? LA? NYC? its not because they don't want to....
@@AxionSmurf
source: dude trust me bro
Jimmy, I think this guy is a wrong guy to speak about N.Korea. one point he totally misses is that, throughout history colonials and imperials had denied the right of Koreans from self determination. Even today the largest US military bases are in S.Korea running as cities.
First China, then Japan's, now America. Is it any wonder they have collectively chosen oblivion with the lowest birth rates. I can't even imagine how it must feel.
My deceased mother was North Korean, sent to Seoul when she was 18 to stay with relatives during the Korean war, and she brought her gold jewelry and silk kimonos with her. Her family was wealthy, and her father had a shipping business. One of her stories was about hiding contraband in a hidden underground area under their barn on their farm. I can tell you there has been so much bs about North Korea, they don't all have tapeworms, they are not starving, fish do swim in their waters, and food does grow in their ground.
There is no such thing Korean kimono, that would be very insulting to Korean. Korean traditional clothing is called Hanbok.
@dugzamilza5212 I apologize. You are correct, but I saw them, and they were beautiful. The point I was trying to make is that my mother's North Korean family is not anything like the typical narrative given.
They starved in the 90s. Now they just have 18 bowls of rice a day
Exactly!
there was a reason your grandmother was sent OUT of North Korea and never went back. the interviews I've seen and read from people that have escaped North Korea under the current regime described horrible conditions and very limited freedoms
South Korea is a colony of the US, you know funny Democracy.
@@jimsonjohnson3761 he is correct i confirm it
"You're a democracy only if you do what we tell you to do"
They're all Moonies now. It's kind of insane.
@jimsonjohnson3761 Yes, South Korea is a separatist part of Korea that became and is still a US colony.
@@jimsonjohnson3761 yes it is
I actually believe that, because I've done business with S.Koreans. The obsession with money, the greed, the malice, horrible personal relations, terrible mistreatment of people, the cruelty, impossible standards of success etc. N.Koreans who defect to S.Korea eventually leave S.Korea, because of how cruel the S.Korean society is.
How come South koreans don't go to North Korea
@@davidanderson6055propaganda.
@@davidanderson6055 Both Koreas are dystopias in their own way. The only difference between the two is that in the South you are allowed to flee.
@@davidanderson6055 Born a NK you live with less freedom and likely accept it. Somewhat. Being 'free', only working every day of your life for your boss to buy stuff in SK, could never be a dream fulfilled if you move north to NK.
@@koreyb WTF are you talking about? This entre video was about how North Korea is really really bad. You clearly didn't watch it lol.
I've met North Koreans in China. Travelled with them from guanzhou to Beijing. Went to their dorms at university.
I know people who have been to North Korea as tourists and there are a couple of Australian comedians called Boy Boy who went.there to check it out. Looked to me like China 30 years ago. Pretty normal
The most shocking thing about North Korea is that it's pretty mundane.
North Korean people = ignorance is bliss
People in medieval times were also relatively happy because they didn't know any better. They just accepted that they lived in filth and were dead by the age of 42.
I saw some of the Boy Boy take downs. Never believe anything the West says about North Korea. It could be the truth, but given the propaganda, hard to tell. Also, Malice wants media to turn away from the military threats the West uses against North Korea to focus on how bad NK to its people. Typical propaganda technique. Dore needs some real experts to come on and not such an obvious propagandist.
They give you a gov tour 🤣🤣🤣
There are North Koreans who live in a higher class but by western standards they are completely isolated and controlled in a totalitarian fashion. The majority of the country are not in this class and their experiences are fucking horrible. Read their writing and watch their testimony and it’s nothing like what you describe
Sounds like one person has a closer degree of association with primary sources of information while the typical Westerner listening, watching, and reading distorted narratives fully believes what defectors and CIA plants have to say. "It's horrible there" they assert with cringe worthy delusional confidence.
I remember clearly when the starvation in North Korea was at it's worst that was; presented by US officials and the mainstream news media as GOOD news because it showed that our sanctions were working. They happily took credit for it
Happiness is state of mind, has nothing to do with consumer goods.
Also, can't be measured.
1. money doesn't make you happy
2. food don't make you happy
3. gifts don't make you happy
😂😂😂
Okay then, give me all ur stuff
@@illegalsmirf
😏☠️
Also, happiness isn’t the meaning of life.
I remember the times when Michael Malice used to present himself as Russian. Now he is suddenly a Ukrainian. I guess he actually is a Russian-speaking jew who was born in Ukraine.
I find it disturbing that communist vermin like Jason Hinckle and Michael Malice are so much promoted in the mainstrem populist right .But Jimmy Dore is also one of them , he is infiltrating the Trump-Maga sphere : he did not see the light miraculously after being a life long communist antfa : this is an op .
It's propaganda. They all used to identify as Russian.
I think I heard him say the parents emigrated from west ukraine.
Ukraine and Russia used to be part of the Soviet Union and “Russia” was also interchangeably used to mean Soviet (although technically incorrect) in Western counties since they were steering the Soviet Union essentially. Westerners also broadly refer to Slavic people as “Russians” referring to Soviet citizens or post-soviet.
Saying your Russian is just sometimes easier as an umbrella term. Ukrainians and Russians are also so generationally intermixed so it can be blurred in families for their preferred identity
Doesn't matter, he's still loyal to Israel. Still trying to deceive Gen z into welcoming anarchy!!!
There is reason why USA wants you to forget the Korean War (USA's war against Korean people). USA is the aggressor
Thats a good joke, get Kims meat out ya mouth
Holiwud is the gaslighting department. Making the world think America is the good, reasonable, moral and ethical hero of the planet. When it js actually the biggest criminal. Satanic level.
Who told you that nonsense?
@@M3_86free Assange
The innocent population have been the primary targets of every war.
Here's a sobering reality check:
Yeonmi Park is a woman who managed to get out of North Korea and defected to the U.S. She attended Columbia University and the following quotes are excerpts from what she had to say about her time there. (By _"there"_ I mean Columbia and NOT North Korea.)
_“I expected that I was paying this fortune, all this time and energy, to learn how to think. But they are forcing you to think the way they want you to think.”_
_“I realized, wow, this is insane! I thought America was different but I saw so many similarities to what I saw in North Korea that I started worrying. … Even North Korea isn't this nuts. … I literally crossed the Gobi Desert to be free and I realized I’m not free. America’s not free.”_
~ Yeonmi Park
I love how the media says it’s a country that they don’t know much about and it’s so secluded secretive yet they know all this information about it and it’s citizens
🎯The difference between China and the US is that in China EVERYONE knows they are being propagandized. Here, EVERYONE believes they are being told the truth. 🇺🇸🤣
the media hates any nation without a roths children centrally located bank, isn't that a coinkydink
Arent South Koreans happier than people in the US too? Lol
I seem to recall that South Koreans have a very high rate of suicide but I don’t know if that relates to happiness.
Highest self deletion rate in the world!
Everyone is 😂
Not sure about that, they're pretty depressed. Not that Americans aren't, of course we are, but as the comment above stated, the suicide rate is the highest. I was just there in February and my best friend told me that depression has become one of the biggest health issues in the country.
@@Juan-os4hs Is s-cide hated by yt censor?
When i went to a journalist school, one of the first things we learned was that we had to write like it was 8 year old children we was writing for. If not, it would go over the head of most common people.
And after we got internet and i discovered how stupid most people are, i now realise that they was 100% right about that.
By the way, there is thousands of common people from North Korea that work in both China and in Russia. Common people who do hard work, who are not high up in the system.
I question how much an American that was locked inside a hotel in a locked island truly know about North Korea.
he did a toe touch over the border to bolster his pre written stories.
And apparently you struggled to raise your writing ability to that standard.
@@Juan-os4hs I am not English.
I guess i have to explain to you that in other countries you do not write in English, but in the local language.
But feel free to write to me in perfect Norwegian.
I can make my self understood in 5 languages, but i only talk one of them perfect.
Of course, when we meet people like you, there is no point in talking the English we know, because you will not listen to what is being said, but in stead become hang up in a word or two that was not said perfectly, and then you will forget what we talk about, and only focus on those words that was not perfect.
That is ok, we know that people who mostly live under a small rock their whole life is small minded and will not be able to follow a conversation if not every word is perfect or said in the perfect way.
I on the other hand is impressed if someone know Norwegian only a little bit if they are not from Norway, and then i will try my best to understand what they actually try to say.
When you talk with people from many countries, and one of them do not know perfect English, most people understand that very well.
But it is a sign of small intelligence when the only thing you have to add to the conversation is to point out that they don`t know English perfect.
I don`t even know why i try to explain this to you, because i probably did not do it in perfect English, and then it is more or less impossible for you to understand anything of what i say anyway.. lol
But even if you are an idiot, i hope you have a nice day when you try to read this damaged English.
@@Juan-os4hs yea, why should anyone say something if they don`t know perfect English, even if they usually write in their local languages..
I can make my self understood in 5 languages, but i only talk one of them perfect. But i guess that is not enough. For some..
Fortunately most people are able to have a conversation even if their English is not perfect.
Feel free to talk to me in perfect Norwegian by the way.
@@HrRezpatex
Google translate is a thing, and it's pretty close to grammatical standard usage.
Why would I knowingly go out of my depth to "prove I am 'smart' "?
Proving I'm "smart" gains what other than egotistical self satisfaction?
Now the only question I have for you, do they teach you to lie, deceive and mislead-like they do in American journalism schools?
"If you don't read the newspapers you are uninformed,
if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed."
-Mark Twain
Things haven't changed, except for the media of delivery, over the hundred plus years when he stated that.
Michael Malice sounds just like RFK Jr. talking about the Palestinians.
Wasn’t there some homeless guy in LA you could have invited to talk about this topic? It would have had the same result less the unhinged “true stories” about the North Korean people.
I agree. This dude just sounds like a western propagandist.
South Korea did the same thing. They divided people up into what this guy would call castes, based on their risks. Only instead the South Korean’s just murdered everyone . Jeju Island Massacre is one example
It's not true that people can't leave North Korea, many travel to Russia to work and the NK government encourages this.
Interesting. Are they free to become Russian citizens and move their families there?
@@Forever-my4wpWell becoming a russian citizen is not easy, but if they can manage it, say via marriage, then yes ofc. North Korea is a normal country just like any other. Everything that is said about them in the west is a lie. Mike is lying when he says north koreans must be racially pure and if they marry a foreigner they get killed. There are hundreds of people of north korean origin scattered in Eastern Europe. One even has a proDPRK youtube channel called Phuong DPRK Daily (shes on Odysee too as backup). She is half german half north korean, and lives in Germany currently. Her father was an east german citizen, and he met her north korean mother who was in East Germany for work. They married and settled in East Germany, where they had their daughter. After the Berlin Wall fell they became citizens of reunified Germany. There are many other stories like this in other former soviet bloc countries such as Poland, Cuba, Romania, Russia, Bulgaria or Hungary. North Korea is only isolated from the west (mostly due to sanctions), but with friendly countries like China or Russia it is open just like any other country.
@@Forever-my4wp They are patriots ( i think they are selected from the reliable bunch ) .If you look at population in eastern europe , the capitalism had the same effect on population as the world wars . The brain/ good worker drain is a form of country vampyrism , i'm not blaming nk for fighting against it
@@ketelin4285pretty good point..
@@Forever-my4wpI read about illegal immigrants from Northern Korea. So probably they are not allowed to leave. And there is treaty that Russian police will return Northern Koreans back home
In case you didn’t know Palestinians don’t have passports either they can’t just leave!
Our media isn't stupid they just have a different agenda
South Korea also has the highest rate of alcoholism in the world
You have no idea.
I am an engineer. I visited a customer in S Korea for a week to solve some issue with production. Every night they demanded I got out with them and drink. They got hammered until midnight every single night and showed up to work at 5 am.
I have no idea how they do it. They work longer hours than anywhere else I visit, and yet every night they are out getting hammered.
I love South Korea. The food, the people, the culture, it’s always a pleasure going there.
With these workhours every day and poverty i would be drunk all day too !
Only because the Irish don't call it alcoholism, they call it Irish.
that is full of crap for conspiracy theories.North Korea is not a happy country.The country is a emotional psycho dictatorship that repress their people.And also South Korea that people are depressed due to society in their country. And the media is also full of garbage.
And the highest suicide rate.
Talk about being happier.
Anything could be the truth. And the problem is not how they live. The problem is how is that used as a weapon.
I lived in ex-Yugoslavia. Almost no one today speaks truthfully about it. Most funny thing is that people overlook, among many other things, the economy of small country compered to big ones. You didn't have Porsches, you must have been oppressed by tyranny. Don't mention how education and medical treatment was completely free. Monkeys in human bodies don`t like that true equality. Where so called academics and doctors, were on same level as truck drivers and waitresses. It hurts their Ego.
Bingo 🎯
Absolutely, 💯
I've seen so many stories about former Yugoslavia and then they disappear. I wanted to know because I'm Yugoslavian and my grandfather died before I was born.
Did the US essentially tear that once one county apart? I really want to know the truth.
You get it 🌈
What NATO did to Yugoslavia was inexcusable! 😢
I've seen videos taken by Westerners surreptitiously when traveling by train from North Korea into China or vice versa. The people look well fed, well clothed. clean and generally happy at the train stations that were stopped at in NK. This at a time when the corporate/government controlled Western mainstream media were telling us the people of North Korea were starving to death in their thousands, were ill clothed and seething with anger at the regime. Those videos prove otherwise.
So you never heard about the soviet show towns for western journalists
@@graemewestbrook8826if he's this naive I'm pretty sure he hasn't heard of anything
@@graemewestbrook8826 Nothing showy about the places the trains stopped at. Pretty grim looking actually, but the people looked okay to me. BTW, they were called Potemkin villages.
@@LeonMortgage What, I'm not supposed to believe what I've seen? Are you another one of the brainwashed sheep who swallow any slop set in front of them?
@jamesroberts2115 everything in that place you're allowed to see is staged or people loyal to the regime
Would love to see South Korea dissected on this show. South Korea was an authoritarian dictatorship pretty much right up until the 1980s, it committed all kinds of atrocities from the Korean War and after. Even in the 1990s when S. Korea finally became "Democratic", it has been plagued with corruption scandals and instability. MM didn't say the most obvious truth about S. Korea, it's occupied by the US military and the S. Korean government would eat it's self in short order as soon as the US pulls out just like the Kabul government did. South Korea is a house of cards entirely dependent on US military occupation to guarantee it's relative stability, meaning it is artificial and weak by it's self. North Korea may be poorer but it's foundations are much deeper, it is truly independent, it is nobody's puppet or vassal.
And everybody is starving. You forgot that part lol
N. Korea is China's junkyard dog, they are not independent.
I think Malice has a mix of good points with very poor points. I would love to learn more about the truth of North Korea but not from him
Mossad agent : Ukrainian anarchist who worked for Goldman Sachs and travels round the world mysterously .
@@DOPEDOGTOPDOGhe smells mockingbird
@@DOPEDOGTOPDOGDid Bulshavics advocate for anarchy? You need to learn critical thinking and properly channel your hatred.
Sponsor some North Korean citizens to visit your country. They'll tell you what ever you need to know.
@@Zanroff They will tell you whatever makes them rich and famous. And I’m not saying they are lying, I just don’t blindly trust everything Im fed by mainstream media , like most other Americans do.
South Korea have a high suicide rate. North Korea is reclusive. That probably happened naturally because of the Korean War and the Cold War. Their reclusiveness paid off and they were able to survive, outlasting the former Soviet Union. Their nuclear and missile industries are indigenous. That means their education system is good. If they don't have arable land, then their food shortages are directly the result of sanctions. Maybe now that China and Russia, their neighbors, are paying close attention to them, they would eventually ease up on their reclusiveness.
Maybe SK has a high suicide rate because they swallowed the liberal cosmopolitan lgbtqaip culture?
@@ctrlaltdebug
And feminism too.
Their nuclear program is not indigenous
@@davidanderson6055
Come, he's trying so hard, just let have this one.
We know better though. 😂😂🤣🤣🤣😂😂
@@davidanderson6055 we both can't prove our claims. But what I do know is that North Korea is reclusive and heavily sanctioned. China wouldn't want a nuclear armed neighbor, neither does Russia, or the Soviet Union back then. The Soviet Union had no intention of sharing their technology, which was why they had to ship their nuclear weapons to Cuba that caused the Cuban Missile crisis. Both Russia and China, most likely candidates to share their technology to North Korea, have been actively participating in the UN sanctions against North Korea until recently, when Russia vetoed the extension of the sanctions. The most believable scenario is, their technology is indigenous.
A prominent British political activist Joti Brar have visited South Korea near Demilitarized Zone DMZ. The US and South Korea who built high security fence on South Korean side. The North Korean didn't built fence on their side.
Exactly. Mike is full of crap. Hes just lying to promote anarchism.
The North Korean regimes has built extensive fences along with landmines to prevent North Koreans fleeing to South Korea.
@@algernonsidney8746 Wrong. Thats not why the fences and landmines are there. They are there because of the ongoing war with USA and ROK. Its to stop a US invasion of North Korea, not so people cant leave. On the border with China and Russia there are no fences or mines. Btw, did you know South Korea bans its citizens from visiting NK, and if they suspect you want to do so they will permanently ban you from leaving SK (ironic huh?). This also applies to north korean defectors, meaning once they go to the south they can never go back home. So much for "freedom" in SK.
We Americans have been lied to everyday of our lives. 🤥
This dude, Malice never response to question why North Korea is like this. For example 18 of Korean cities were annulated to the rubbish during Korean war?
So in all these decades they didn’t rebuild , make it make sense.
80, not 18.
100% was thinking this the whole time listening to this hack; the US AF tried to genocide NK because they couldn't win the war. Who wouldn't be traumatized after that?
Yes he is, obviously you do not know how to listen.
So what’s your point?
Michael Krechmer, better known as Michael Malice, is a Ukrainian-American anarchist, He is of Jewish heritage and grew up speaking Russian, Malice attended Bucknell University and also worked for Goldman Sachs before quitting.
Please, neocon, stop it. You are much closer to supporting communism than Malice is for the simple fact that you 🫵🏻 support government and he does not.
Please explain how communism destroys lives in absence of being in control of government. I’ll be here.
Mossad agent for sure , like Jason Hinckle , totally astro-turfed .
And grew up to be a master Twitter troll
@@E_Clampus_Vitus You talk like a drunk man walks: in every direction but where he be headed.
@@Uriel-Septim. I guess if you can’t discredit the argument, you discredit the person. 🤷
You dodged a direct question because critical thinking is too painful for you?
You are brainwashed and know absolutely which direction you’re going. Straight off the cliff. 🤣
I remember when Middle Eastern countries were saying they just wanted to maintain their cultures and prevent western contamination of their societal values. Of course the westerners felt they had to "teach" them what they were "missing". Never thinking that maybe there's something to be learned from other cultures. I always appreciate learning different view points, and no, I don't want all people to think the same way about everything.
That is true. We do have plenty of things to learn from them. Though I ain't sure we can contaminate them without the contaminating us.
Their country was literally cut in half.
The lies aren't the problem it's the believing of the lies.
I don't know why the guest is lying about North Koreans not having access to computers. NK has universities and produces modern research. Our universities in Pakistan have exchange programs, even SK universities apparently have them. One of my former professors went to Pyongyang University in lieu of post doctoral research and further went to Daegu University.
Wow really
Right?? Acting like they don’t have computers when the DPRK produces some of the best hackers on the planet
Correct, the guy clearly is full of crap
Lol compared to any Lahore, Pyonyang is like the city in Blade runner. Where else can Pakistan send their professors?
@@stylezofom It seems you also dont know anything about Pakistan . They can send their people any where and do so
Uncle Sam's ever-changing blame list:
1. China / Xi Jinping / the CPC / Huawei / TikTok
2. Russia & Putin
3. Hamas & the Palestinian people
4. Iran
5. Venezuela & its immense oil reserves
6. North Korea / Kim Jong Un
7. Iraq / WMDs / Sadam Hussein / Osama
8. Gaddafi / Libya's Utopian Society
9. Noriega
10. SpongeBob & his SquarePants
You should put the American people at #1
Adds..Nicaragua...Cuba...
The usa says the same about Cuba, Iran and Syria, the ONLY other countries that DON'T have a roth schild central bank. I have been to Cuba MANY times and the People are VERY happy and it's a great place.
Democracy is when there is a majority of free, poor men who have authority to rule, while oligarchy is when it is in the hands of the wealthy and well-born, who are a minority.
- Aristotle
The US sufferd a cold bitter defeat in North Korea. Most Americans have no knowledge of this war. Chinese intervention, defeated the US. Douglas MacArthur wanted Truman to use nuclear weapons weapons.
I mean...the people of South Korea wouldn't call it a defeat.
@@AlbatrossRevenue Call it what ever you want. China put a good old axx whooping on the US. China would defeat any ground army in this world. They have 200 million in their armed forces. The only reason they didn't conquer South Korea, they feared Truman would use nukes.
@@AlbatrossRevenueThe US defeat was when they got pushed out of the north back to the 38th. The biggest retreat in military history
@@themuckler8176Vietnam was the biggest retreat lol
Nope! The Communists aim was to take the whole peninsula and they obviously didn’t! I’d say it was a bloody stalemate!
So the dude says their issues dont stem from sanctions, and then runs off a bunch of items that are impacted by....you guessed it.....SANCTIONS.
2:57 he says the sanctions ARE a problem.
A Ukrainian American author writing a book about North Korea. Can’t make this shit up 🤣
You mean he traveled to a country and wrote a book about it? WILD! SUCH WOW.
@@crushinnihilism incel
@@jasonvoorhees5640 I'm married...
@@crushinnihilism
ok incel
why did you invite this person to the program? what was the point?
To hear all perspectives
@@themuckler8176I'm looking forward to Haz having right of reply
@@tottifan6979 dude, what the hell Haz knows about a country he never stepped foot in??? Use your brains bro
@@photo_n_art Haz has spoken to many people who have been there.
The state becomes more authoritarian if threatened. Abandon all the sanctions against N. Korea and soon they'll become less strict and breathe out.
That's not how that works
that is full of crap for conspiracy theories.North Korea is not a happy country.The country is a emotional psycho dictatorship that repress their people.And also South Korea that people are depressed due to society in their country. And the media is also full of garbage.
@@poli_zgaming3616 Yes it is. Sanctions only force populations inward, especially when the one doing the sanctioning was able to control pretty much everyone else at the time.
@@cyberlemmingasaservice7740 China?
@@cyberlemmingasaservice7740 They were the same when they weren't isolated; i.e. during the Cold War.
And Chinese are happier than US citizens!
That can be true. Right now people are NOT happy, inflation war etc etc.
capitalism always ends up with monopoly or cartel UNLESS government steps in with regulations
I've always known this. What most people known about the world comes from CIA, including North Korea...
Yep. But also, North Korea is part of it which is why he isn’t on a chopper headed to foggy mountains.
that is full of crap for conspiracy theories.North Korea is not a happy country.The country is a emotional psycho dictatorship that repress their people.And also South Korea that people are depressed due to society in their country. And the media is also full of garbage.
I really want every communist nerd who loves North Korea to go immigrate there
Their both shitty
They're both shitty
I'm not saying Malice doesn't know a lot about the DPRK, I'm sure he knows a lot more than me but I've heard contradicting things from other american and Canadian expats that live in Asia that travel to the DPRK.
He doesn't know what he is talking about
The moment he said “female North Korean defectors become sex slaves in China” I knew he was full of sh*t. Jimmy should screen his guests better.
that fence is between North and South because the war is Not over, it's in pause, that is why ALL male South Koreans are obliged to at least 2 years of military service. But No.Koreans can travel to China (North border) and i bet to Russia and other countries too
As soon as I know and I am Russian, Northern Koreans come to Russia to work. And maybe do business. They don't travel. They are too poor to travel
What a load of 💩
I don’t intend to believe anything Mike says. I am going to visit DPRK in near future and then I will see.
I think thats the best way of really knowing. It's hard to trust anyone on this issue. The die hard commies want you to think its working because it supports their idea that communism can work successfully, but they also obviously the capitalists want you to think it's a sh*thole. And since it's such an insulated country when it comes to information, it's hard to trust whoever is telling you one way or the other that they actually have the real scoop. Like, how the hell could you possibly know that?. The best you can really do is to just go there and see with your own eyes.
Agreed...
Please do
Just invite a North Korean family visit your home. I'm sure they're free to leave their country when ever they want.
don't steal shit there
To answer your thumbnail title, Jimmy. It would seem so as South Koreans have the highest suicide and alcoholism rates in the world while North Korea is not even in the top 10 where you find both the UK and US
Well, one, don’t you need alcohol to be an alcoholic? Also, I don’t necessarily trust the stats that the US government puts out, I sure don’t trust North Korea for stats.
Omg. You believe North Korean statistics? Besides those kind of regimes will kill your whole family if you commit suicide.!
Its sad how Korea have to experience extremes of both systems at once. If only they could share their experience with each other and assemble more effective system out of pieces of both. And North Korean government now more open to finding common ground with South Korea (after decades of not being open to this idea), yet in South Korea one party is open too and other is angrily nationalist and anti-North Korean, and they change each other at the top too fast to allow serious relationships develop when more friendly to North Korea party at the power.
(Well, North Korea is nowhere close to tyranny of Salot Sar, for example, but i'm also doubt that South Koreans live worse than Ukrainians, its just Ukraine almost dont have any statistics, but i can say that it is country with ugliest form of capitalism possible)
If you believed DPRK's public reporting about anything, Sam Bankman Fried has some investment plans that might interest you.
So how many times did Mrs Malice visit North Korea?
One time in 2012 for 1 week as a tourist. Yes, thats right, thats what it takes to be an expert apparently.
"Death penalty for videos from foreign nations..." I'm guessing he just pulled that out of his arse.
Did you really invite an ukranian jew who lives in america to hear "the truth" about socialist country? 😂
Right I said a Ukrainian American writing a book about North Korea 🤣
I mean, people are listening to Konstantine Kisin on Russia despite both him and his dad fled Russia cause of tax evasion charges. At least I haven’t seen any arrest warrant for this guy yet, although give him a minute. I’m sure he’ll end up on Ukrainian death list like everybody else who exposes how corrupt that country really is😅
Dore does this and somehow he has them convicted he hates liberals, uh?
First of all, Michael Malice is extremely insightful. 2ndly, North Korea isn't actually socialist; they are a communist dictatorship. Thirdly, what difference does it make if he's Jewish? Be careful, your antisemitism is showing...
@@chopkong North Korea identifies as communist, but they aren't really communist not that they aren't trying to be communists. Authoritarian dictatorship absolutely yes, they are, and at this point it is pretty clear that the people who call themselves communists don't even know how to be communists.
The unholy union between industry and the state is called fascism, not capitalism.
🙏
This guy is such a liar. They have tens of thousands of worker visas
These workers are closely monitored and have hostages back home. you're mad
@@captainLoknar”Hostages.” 😂🤣
@@tylermcconnellYup hostages.
Blaming NKorea for poverty when they are under sanctions is like blaming a victim instead of the perpetrator.
he's a propagandists for Biden
People are happier in Fargo North Dakota than NYC. Every study shows this. But Michael Malice will argue because people move to NYC from Fargo & not the other way around this means people are happier in NYC. Not one immigrant moves to America to be happier. Its just a nonsense argument.
Also, if I may add, people DON’T move to California in order to be happier! I personally moved out of that dreadful place to Washington state and I am happier than I have ever been before! More rain! More snow! More seasons! More community! More social neighbors! More love ❤️
Long term happiness or serenity is always the goal
People generally move for opportunity. However, the fences and guards to keep people in a country are a sign that people aren't happy there. North Korea isn't the place to defend. I think there's a knee jerk reaction to assume a country is good if it's an enemy of the US, but that's not a good way to analyze situations
Of course people in Fargo are happier, all the unhappy people moved to NYC where they are much happier.
@@davidanderson6055 North Korea is closer to God than America. We made North Korea by refusing to allow unification through elections in the South. This isn't nuanced you just don't know history. And I'm a conservative.
The corporations need to fear government and the government needs to fear people.
People are dumb and easily convinced via propaganda
North Koreans play ice hockey. I visited Tumen, China and the high speed train continued on into North Korean. There were many people on the train.
If one reads the History of Korea one realises North Korea is on the right side of history.
In what way?
Lol
@@joeyservothey liberated Korea from Japanese colonialism while the South Korean govt was Japanese collaborators. And when Korea got independent they had massive popular support and South Korean govt did several massacre like jeju massacre where maybe around 50000 people were murdered for them to stay in power.
NK against zionism, us imperialism, japanese colonialism, capitalism
What do you mean? There were far more independence guerillas during the Japanese colonial period than Kim Il Sung's, for example we had the KIA in the 1920s (who defeated Japanese battalions in Manchuria 3 times in a row) and don't forget the Korean Provisional Government established in 1919 that funded that guerilla army. During 1945 the leaders of the Provisional Government mostly went back to South Korea, some of them to the North.
I'm not defending any side I'm just saying your premise is inaccurate. @@TrueDreeamss
Big problems with South Korea. Huge rich/poor divide, organised crime.
@PDiaz-wj6nb Not here in Scotland. Zero organized crime.
You have more junkies pre capita than most of the world@@craigsips8677
The gap between the rich and the poor is an issue for sure. Old age poverty,in particular,is rising because old age pension does not provide enough replacement income after retirement. However, organized crime is not a big issue; that is just a propaganda from the North. And I do admit that the country has its flaws. But, North Korea is not the country to wag their fingers at South Korea.
The gap between the rich and the poor is an issue for sure. Old age poverty,in particular,is rising because old age pension does not provide enough replacement income after retirement. However, organized crime is not a big issue; that is just a propaganda from the North. And I do admit that the country has its flaws. But, North Korea is not the country to wag their fingers at South Korea.
N. Korea is isolated by US sanctions.
JD, you should invite a guest who knows something about this topic, whose purpose is not to vilify countries and leaders that the empire doesn't like, and who understands the geopolitical dynamics of this region. This guy is pushing a narrative that aligns with US geostrategic interests.
This reminds me of those North Korean propaganda videos where random vloggers like Sam Wilson go to a water park in Pyongyang, North Korea. I was so surprised that you could see thousands of North Koreans playing around in water, eating ice cream, and having normal fun in a water park. But fortunately the American truth-tellers revealed the truth to me, those thousands of Koreans were actually all actors who only pretend to have fun in order to convince us that North Korea is a normal place! Kim Jong-un is so sneaky, spending hundreds of thousands of dollars to construct an entire waterpark and hiring thousands of actors/actresses of all ages on a regular basis in order to trick the occasional foreign vlogger from the UK, Turkey, China, etc. If only these North Koreans could escape to Los Angeles, they'd be able to live use their acting skills in a free democracy.
😂😂😂😂
Facts. Poor north koreans cannot enjoy the freedom of living on the street on Skid Row in LA and ODing on fentanyl. Poor souls!
You have to be incredibly gullible to think that everyone in North Korea is an actor who show up just to impress some guy with zero geopolitical importance.
@@terminaldeity
He’s being sarcastic.
I HOPE he’s being sarcastic !!!
Or else the Grinch ate his brain 🫢
You can travel, at least to China, as far as i know, because there were North Korean students. I lived in China for 4 years, so yeah, i'm not lying and i'm not a troII
Those are most likely the social elite (military, tires to government). Otherwise you’re just poor as fuck eating tree bark to survive.
There’s literally a named soup dish made of tree bark bc there’s no fucking food.
There's definitely less body dysmorphia, happier relationships, less toxic, less materialistic, and better in the traditional ways. It's also maybe the most lied about country above Russia and China. I think we need to give North Korea more time, they're focused on defense primarily
they have happier relationship with the Party for sure
They don't need your sympathy nor help. Just stop bullying them.
@@mokondoenak3706 If anything, it's their governments job to bully them.
NK is that way, because of the US.
NK only proves how interdependent the world is...
if logistical and commerce lines were disrupted, all the world would starve too.
It isnt just sanctions, if you dont take bankers debt, you cant do business.
Its that simple
"Basically they forced her to abort by kicking the shit out of her", Source : trust-me-bro
Literally the dumbest stuff in this whole video. Malice is ridiculous.
Can't believe this is coming from the jimmy dore show.
I’m with Jimmy. We’ve been lied to so much by the United States I am also willing to have an open mind about North Korea.
If you want some channels that can give you a different perspective on North Korea I can list a few. Phuong DPRK daily, Natalie revolts/ defend Korea, DPRK explained, or Jason Unruhe who has a substantive playlist called defend DPRK.
@@thesuperostrichThose are great channels indeed! I recommend them too!
@@paiosfranen I forgot to mention songun007 and the Korean friendship association. Hopefully those can provide some good resources for OP to research and hopefully Haz infrared can come on and talk to Jimmy about the topic of the DPRK. Glad to hear you are a likeminded individual on North Korea I am wishing you peace wherever you are.
@@thesuperostrich Thanks a lot bro. I also hope Haz comes on the show and sets the record straight regarding the DPRK. I personally discovered the truth about DPRK 4 years ago by watching the documentary Loyal Citizens of Pyongyang in Seoul. Great documentary, totally changed my mind on DPRK (before i believed all the CIA propaganda). I wish you peace to you too bro! Greetings from Spain (in fact i live in the same town as Alejandro Cao de Benos, the leader of the KFA)!
@@paiosfranen so you go from CIA propaganda to communist potemkin village propaganda lol
Something is not add up. N. Korea people haven't seen computer but they have lots of good IT specialists. All he said should be checked. I don't believe Michael Malice sources and his critical evaluation of them.
Bingo! So according to Malice NK hackers use… what, pigeons?
You can have only 5% of a population serve as good IT guys for the govt and the rest not have a computer. That's not hard.
@@JohnDoe-pt7ru if there are any good IT guys, the statement 'they don't have computers' is false. 1. Which means we face propaganda. To what extent is a matter of facts checking. Good propaganda is always mixed. 2. Which means that source is unreliable or biased to put it mildly.
"no porn, no prostitution"
definitely not happier then.
The DPRK has progressed hugely since this guy visited!
Ye their long term strategy seems to be paying off. They had this "songun" strategy of prioritising investment in the military until they could achieve a nuclear deterrent. Now that they have that they're doing the kind of dual track reforms that China did in the 1980s that led to an economic boom there and seem to be having considerable success themselves.
that is full of crap for conspiracy theories.North Korea is not a happy country.The country is a emotional psycho dictatorship that repress their people.And also South Korea that people are depressed due to society in their country. And the media is also full of garbage.
@@CallousCarter If I was dictator of a small country, I'd do the same. Look at results of countries with nukes vs countries who gave up nukes.
@@ctrlaltdebugit’s not so much about nukes as it is about which currency you wish to trade goods in. If you look at any country where the CIA has been involved in a regime change & you’ll find that they all wanted off the petro dollar & to use an alternative currency than the USD, to trade with.
@@CallousCarter Kim has been investing heavily in hydroponics recently to increase their food production.
"Facism is the merger of state and corporate power" - Benito Mussolini
That’s not a real quote from Mussolini
Our leaders have learned that they don’t need to violate our rights, when they can coerce the corporations to do it for them. The FBI isn’t going to illegally surveil you directly, when they can just ask the social media platforms to do it on their behalf instead
That’s China to the tee. They subsidize every company of theirs to destroy competition.
That's what Fascism is. What you are seeing with the Democrats, Bill Gates, etc. @@borkingborker5567
_“Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism, because it is a merger of state and corporate power.”_
~ Benito Mussolini
People vote with their feet. No-one risks their lives to escape from South Korea.
When this guy last time been in Korea?
Last night,, i watched video of Russian groups of people went to North Korea, and was not that way.
he never went to NK more than 1 week
that guy is clearly a propagandist. I lost all respect for him when he said that NK woman has to commit abortion and suicide after impregnated with Chinese man, like WTF man do you have any brain left? lol
this narrative is clearly similar to how US and Israel view Palestinian.
So because they happened to go to an area approved by the State, and made a video showing everything is happy and fine you believed it? You're talking about a populace forced into struggle sessions where neighbors rat on each other for violations against the State. America is obviously no angel, and corporate media can't begin to be balanced telling both sides of the story including how sanctions have had a crippling effect on their economy. That doesn't mean darker minded people don't take advantage of the situation for their own benefit, as ALWAYS happens in every conceivable scenario where such events align. The entire point Malice makes is that he's on neither govt's side. He's actually concerned about the citizens, in both Koreas, for different reasons. Imagine that, someone with enough nuance to recognize the competing power hungry don't really give a crap about the bulk of those affected. What a concept..🤔🙄
Propaganda
What was the video, can you post it here so we can watch and decide for ourselves.
@dualidea it's in russian language. Right now Russia and China don't care about secondary sanctions and last 2 years it's going in right direction.
Ok but MM is being wildly disingenuous here. He wasn't talking about "consumer goods" meaning food. He's talking about Nikes and porn.
Malice has always been a goof. Yeah, I thought anarchy was cool too, when I was 14.
“Consumer goods” means all goods including that stuff. But also have the ability to pick from 2 options of fruit, or every possible option of fruit. It’s all encompassing of any product that can be bought.
@@michaelj6392Your government turned out sweet! 😂😂
that is full of crap for conspiracy theories.North Korea is not a happy country.The country is a emotional psycho dictatorship that repress their people.And also South Korea that people are depressed due to society in their country. And the media is also full of garbage.
@@michaelj6392 he's wrong on some stuff, but he's reliably right on anarchism.
MM was not a good guest on North Korea. There are many thousands of North Koreans working in Russia and specifically in former Eastern Ukraine provinces, they are rebuilding Mariupol for example. Also, the famine in the 90s, well I guess MM didn't want to point out that the actual starvation was because *nobody* was allowed to ship food to North Korea, not enough anyway. This was 100% due to US sanctions and in those days, even Russia and China obeyed the almighty Hyper-Power of America. IF MM loves North Koreans so much than he should say *THANK GOD* Russia and increasingly China, will no longer play ball with American sanctions against North Korea. Another thing, the total ban on oil imports to N. Korea meant that they entire farming sector, tractors, trucks, machinery was useless and played a huge role in the actual famine because N. Koreans could not harvest their own food. See how productive US farming states are under an oil/fuel embargo, we'd starve too. What we did to North Korea with sanctions, we did to Yemen and starved hundreds of thousands of people, mostly children, to death. Our sanctions are so f***ing evil but most Americans are blissfully unaware.
It's like saying the Amish community is happier than most Americans.
They are
Btw there's a video interview of N.Korean who crossed the border some years ago and he said that initially he had a culture shock and loved S.Korea with all its riches and development. But after few years he started to miss his home and wanted to go back.
He said things about S.Korea he didn't like but I can't remeber what they were.
Hypermaterialism, if I remember correctly
That’s what makes me mad about Yeonmi Park, her story is fake & she’s a clout chaser who is grifting off ignorant American’s who refuse to fact check her story. She lived in S Korea for years, chasing capitalism before she realized she could make way more money selling her story to ignorant Republicans who so desperately want it to be true. She pretends that her 1st experience with capitalism was in the US when she already went to school in S Korea & had a career there.
Loyal Citizens of Pyongyang. It's a documentary. It shows that many defectors are effectively blackmailed by the South Korean government to make negative statements about North Korea. Many defectors wish to return but are not allowed by the South Korean government.
@@koobs4549 white guy telling a Korean she's fake lol
So no phones or computers to distract the kids? Sounds like they are living in the 70s! That was a golden time to grow up in the US... N. Korea sounds nice actually....🤔
Except in reality NK makes (and even exports) computers and smartphones.
This guy is no better than CNN
“The media is always in the hands of the perpetrators.”
- Alexander Solzhenitsyn
a broken clock is truthful twice a day :D
Listen to what South Koreans say about their own country without a gun to their head! Listen to what RICH South Koreans say about their country! Watch what every SK movie is about, literally every single one! Watch the documentaries, read the articles and think really hard, if you would want to live in a society like that!
South korea got a lot better they created tranquility agreements and america got their tranquility agreements ripped up
So now we actually deal with south koreas problems and the tranquility agreements in south korea seem a lot stronger and better
We need to get coexisting with the demons (towns that give warnings demons live their and they became scared and now humans who understand also scared)
The missing peoples on the media happen because people leave their cars when somebody trying to start a traffic jam so please call the cops when somebody stops at a greenlight and refuses to go (I understand give them sometime to move)
They started to take care of the poor in south korea it became a developed country and america took its place
Including with censorship america took its place I am unable to type everything I want to you because my second comment went poof
South Korea literally enslaves mentally disabled people in salt mines...
If they have enough houses why don’t they have consumer goods? That is the dumbest fucking thing anyone has ever said
Economic sanctions - can't trade with other countries - get it?
@@katalinkiss120 lol…. They can trade with the whole world. Even Europe buys and sells the shit.
Don’t you get it? Sanctions aren’t what you think. But I guess this shit works on idiots.
Mr. Dore, please bring on Haz. He's a super smart analyst.
Are you 11 years old?
YES! Do it please Jimmy!
Much like the USSR, NK invests a lot in education & health (free to citz). Therefore, … it would be silly to allow people to freely live & work elsewhere rather than contribute to the national good.
You can tell how free they are by the fact that they're not allowed to leave unless they leave their families hostage back home.
Free Palestine
Free Ireland
Free Africa
✊🏽 Although I thought Ireland gained its independence a long time ago
Ireland's government, like the government of British South Africa, is flooding the country full of migrants against the consent of the people they govern. Sound familiar?
Free America from the Marxist stooges
Free Newfoundland! Free Quebec too ✊
that is full of crap for conspiracy theories.North Korea is not a happy country.The country is a emotional psycho dictatorship that repress their people.And also South Korea that people are depressed due to society in their country. And the media is also full of garbage.
North Korea was pretty much on par with the South economically until the USSR was destroyed and North Korea's access to subsidized energy was cut. Gorbachev and Yeltsin are pretty much as responsible for the horrible famine the North Koreans suffered as anything their own government did.
The North Korean government may be repressive, but they it's definitely true that they're outside the grasp of international banksters.
Wait, the Soviets are at fault for not subsidizing North Korea because they went broke? Huh?
During Yeltsin's time russia was in deep economic trouble and USA threatened Russia not to help north Korea and to starve them cos they thought that would help to overthrow the govt
@@TrueDreeamss Agreed. It's a similar story with Afghanistan. Najibullah was overrun by the Taliban after Yeltsin cut off fuel deliveries to Kabul. Another enemy of George H.W. Bush's New World Order that had to go.
@@TrueDreeamss LOL help North Korea with what? Russia was broke!
@@The_Ballo discounted oil. Cuba was also in Similar situation for that till Venezuela came along under Hugo Chavez
"If someone opens my grave a few years after my death, they will find it full, not of my bones, but of poems written in that tomb’s darkness”
- Ko Un
People actually say that what happened during Covid was "our Medicare for all"? That's so dumb it makes my head hurt.