The Siege of Ruby Ridge PT3
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Very few people even remember Ruby Ridge, let alone what occurred and this just might be the greatest tragedy of all. But Ruby Ridge was a watershed. It paved the way for government bureaucrats at ATF and the FBI to violently react to American citizens who failed to pay proper homage. It revealed the arrogance of government's non-elected officials and their contempt for "non-compliant" Americans. My wife, a former supervisor at the US Department of Justice was riveted to the screen as she watched this DVD. On several occasions, she repeated "this is just the way they are!" For the life of me, I don't understand why this unfolding drama was given such a low rating. Maybe most people are in denial over what happens when Americans don't bow to authority or live according to "approved" rules. Whatever the reason, it's a travesty to this excellent movie and a tragedy for democracy. As someone who has spent some twenty years in uniform as a Field Grade Officer and as an individual who has known many "Feds," I can tell you that this film captured their incompetence and duplicitous arrogance to perfection. Only "Waco, The Rules of Engagement," has managed to better clarify the threat we all face. It comes from unaccountable unelected Federal civil servant bureaucrats who feel that they are not just above the law, but but hold the power of life and death over citizens who threaten their sense of self-importance. "The Siege at Ruby Ridge," is a must see.
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This movie takes the term "loosely based" to a whole new level....so many inaccuracies can be spotted that one quickly loses count.
I played Sam Weaver in this movie. I have read most of the comments here and am not surprised by many of them. I want to say though that to all those who say "that's not how it happened" or "it's not a documentary", "Propaganda" etc. that you are wrong. The producers of this film (TV movie) had access to all of the public records for all 4 of the cases involved in the story, and had consultants from both sides present during most of the filming. I met Mr. Weaver during filming on one of the occasions he was present (Usually it was a representative)
As far as Sam having "No business shooting the US marshall" He shot at an armed man (who fired first) while on his property, and was running away from the threat when he was shot in the back. The facts of that particular encounter were not disputed by either side (with the exception of who actually shot the marshal, Kevin or Sam). Regardless of the legal standing (I think most would agree that his actions were legally sound "self-defense") he was a child, acting as a child who just witnessed his dog being shot. Use of deadly force against him was unwarranted.
I am not an expert, I am an actor who played a role as honestly as I was able to honor the memory of a child in a family torn apart by violence. The filmmakers I believe had the same goal.
I liked you better in Jumanji lol jk sns #yolo
did you feel the weavers were unfairly treated?
I agree with you Sam shot in self defense but i put the blame on the government they set Mr. Weaver up tried to play him at every turn then made the mess. I have always stood with the Weavers on this issue. Thanks for your input nice to know that they tried to keep this movie true too life
Yeah I believe you BP BUT they way they edited this film and cut it together shows too much of a bias to the government. It's good in that it shows both sides, but the agencies were craaaazy to be pushing this hard. I guess maybe it was part of the zeitgiest of the era too. I think since 2010 states like Idaho and Montana etc have pushed the Firearms Freedom Acts through though.
+Bradley Pierce As a child your acting was exceptional here Mr.Pierce, I commend you. I don't agree with the weavers families politics, but it is my belief that the militarization of our police force, and a trigger happy officer that caused the entire mess. Glad you shed some light on the background of the film, very interesting.
I think they forget the part where the boys head wasn’t shaved and his arm was hanging off
I'd heard that as well, the M16 rounds took a lot of his arm apart, and the shot in the back, would've indeed looked gross coming out. Granted it's a TV movie so I'm not expecting Saving Private Ryan...
@@benjaminhughes2226 Well, you got a point.
Hostage rescue team (HRT)- pretty good at killing 'hostages'. In spite of political correctness, people are allowed to hold opinions and beliefs, no matter how far they deviate from the majority, no matter how well-founded or flaky. The 1st Amendment used to allow that. I may not fly your flag, wear your slogan on a shirt, or march in your parade, but I will support your right to believe something I totally oppose.
Randy is a hero. That's why lots of people don't trust the government.
Was he a racist and had the kkk beliefs as the movie said ? There is a scene where his kids shout "white power" and holding guns and he is telling them to keep thier fight for the N**ers and the jews .does this really happened ? I am not American and not white and even though the movie shows him as a racist nazi but i feel sympathy toward him . I think whoever made the movie wanted to ruin his image . Because his wife said true things and she said it in the 80s .. she said the govt controlled by zionists and they want to make a one world economy to make the people slaves to them .and i think this is true . Most of the world population now work hard thier entire life just to afford thier basic needs. Back in mid ages slaves used to work for food and shelter .. and this is almost whats happening now .
Truth be told, if this was meant to be a documentry, then its the most inaccurate one I've ever seen involving the truly horrific events of this story.
details are not right but basics = zog wants you to snitch and work for them if you do not comply to the state then you become a target so does your family , then the media slaughters you so you look killable , its a half hatchet job but not as bad as the film they made about RJM
The second amendment says that the right for the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. Which means in plain English that there is no limitations on the amount or type of weapons that American citizens are allowed to have. One of the reasons is to prevent the government from becoming to big and too tyrannical. When the government fears the people we have Liberty, when the people fear the government we have tyranny. This is exactly what the government wants is to be able to control its citizens and that the people cannot have anything that would allow the to fight the government. Which the government is going against the constitution by doing that. REMEMBER THAT WE AMERICANS NEED TO REALIZE THAT IT IS TIME TO REFRESH THE TREE OF LIBERTY..
Todd, as u stated "without being infringed" but yet if someone is convicted of a felony ( even if it was 20 years ago ) they can't ever own a firearm or even have one in their home nor in even the trunk of their car on their property. So I guess if you break the law one time and serve out your punishment that your just screwed if someone kicks in your front door. They can just slaughter your whole family because you have no rights to any weapons for defense. Also, I think it's crazy that nobody else living within the home, even if an adult, is allowed to keep a gun for defense. Just because someone else in the home broke the law at some point in their life.
Suppose a couple went on a cruise or weekend getaway for an anniversary or something and their children, late teens-early 20's were home. Those kids have no system of defense if their home was invaded by intruders. THAT'S CRAZY! Besides all that, felony=no firearm applies to felonies that didn't even involve firearms or a violent crime so I just don't understand that law. Everyone should have the same equal right to have the ability to defend their home, family, and property. That's very different than conceal and carry or open carry on public streets and property. What is kept for protection in the privacy of your own home or property is nobody's concern. Unless their breaking into your home nobody will ever come face to face with it. Laws regarding protection of home and property need to be changed to allow every American the right to self protection. That's discriminating, even to innocent family members and shouldn't be allowed. Sorry for the rant, you had a great comment. I guess it sparked my fire. Lol.
SUPPORT THE 2ND AMENDMENT while we still have one 🙂
*Todd, one other thing... Since you support the 2nd Amendment and I'm assuming that maybe are also a gun enthusiast, I wanted to say you should check out Colion Noir's channel. He's the biggest 2nd Amendment Advocate and Enthusiast I've ever come across. His content is both informative and entertaining. You probably already know his channel but just in case.... Have a blessed day!
I cry every time I see Striker get shot
Fuck the weavers and striker
I cry when they shoot the dog, Vickie, and Sammy.
This movie is a disgrace to the memories of the Weaver family who were killed there. This is blatant propaganda. Was it paid for by the government? Do they think we're all stupid?
Guess old saying " winner rights the story" holds true
Why the hell did they shoot the dog?
i know fucking punk
agreed
Suzuki Nathie well here’s a thing that’s Randy’s fault for resisting dickface
Abraha, Al-Rai well you know what? They scheduled a court date for feb when the note they sent him was mar. So it’s their fault and the fed messed up this time, it happens!
They always shoot the dog.
Help! Help! We're pinned down by two men, teenage boy, a woman, two teenage girls and a fully armed baby!!!!
Sammy: YOU SHOT MY DOG YOU SON OF A BITCH
Best words in any movie there is
Watched this last night , and I've seen the American Experience show as well as interviews with Sarah now a scarred woman doing the best she can to live the rest of her life. I've never come across an public words or interviews with Lon H... What strikes me is that only a few years earlier, Lon was an Army officer, Randy was in the Army, Bo Gritz was in the Army … (I'm a vet myself as well). Heck, not all but a lot of the US Marshalls come from the military backgrounds. So do many police. And a while later after this went down, another vet was so incensed by this and Waco the following spring he took a roadtrip to Oklahoma City in 1995 with a Ryder Truck. :'( All once were American soldiers who at some point at least used to be willing to give everything to protect not just their country, but the brother or sister in arms standing next to each other - then they were willing to kill each other a few years later.
I'm a veteran too brother. Lee Oswald was a veteran too that supposedly angry lone nut. McVeigh was the fastest execution in history. Don't believe everything you heard about okc bombing. I suggest watching "Nobel lies" .
As with Oswald you may find everything is not as it seems.
No problem, thanks for your ministry Kevin.
GOD bless them for standing up to this corrupt government, FREEDOM!!!!!
Now why did they have to shoot the poor dog? That makes no sense.
They do that to shut them up. They did the same thing at the Waco siege in 93. That started a blood bath.
@@wasblind4835 They are supposed to just mace them or traq gun
And we’re was the ASPCA to charge theses bastards ? At Ruby Ridge & Waco. And on top of it all Sarah said in an interview they ran over the dog with a tank right after they shot him. So terrible
Serves them right for not bowing down and licking their boots, shoots an unarmed dog who was posing no threat and a boy in the back because he didn’t bow down and lick their boots.
All this fire power for one family. wow the government will always see it as a threat. OMG
And they should, when the government fears the people, there is liberty, but when the people fear the government, there is tyranny. This story is a perfect example of tyranny in action.
@@rickb06 ...much like ICE, or being black and fearing any kind of interaction with the cops...Arizona law SB 1070 also comes to mind...
This was a janet reno fuck up . Just like waco
i love the word racist, these days it just means you stand up for your family. nothing wrong with that, the sjw's have watered the word down so much is has no negative connotations unless you give them that power. science power
PENIS POWER!
So he was not racist ?
@@Ahmed-Osman76 he loved people of all races. his daughter married a muslim man from libya.
@@Ahmed-Osman76 How does being in cahoots with the KKK not make him racist?
@@trump-totalwar6509 At least Weaver’s daughter wasn’t completely poisoned by those KKK bastards
This movie pisses me off.
Rorschach ever read Every Knee Shall Bow?
Me to because of what happened to this family . I don't trust the government at all
This entire incident was a shit-show from the get.The marshals should have never been on the ridge to begin with.The agents made mistakes of not properly identifying,shooting the dog and whoever made the decision to send them up without proper back-up was a fool.Weaver made the mistake of not showing up to his court date, which prompted the involvement of more law enforcement.The sniper of course also made huge errors as well. Overall an incident that did not need to happen.
Ranger Minsc here’s a thing jackass had Weaver just showed up for his firearm charges and not resisted that wouldn’t have happened
Dear God in Heaven
🙏🏻 bless this family 😭
All of this was unnecessary
Why shoot the dog! It's not as if it's harming anyone
mcsquare77 I don’t like this either. I doubt whoever shot the dog has a pet or any experience on dog commands.
@@eaglesfan226 Why shoot the woman holding a baby?
That's sad no regard for life the son Sammy, the dog, and an unarmed woman with a baby in her arms. They are lucky that baby didn't did .but they are government they would have walked away because they don't have a heart
This really pisses me off!!!!
the national guard a blatant violation of posse comatotis
Great kill. You avenged the death of Sam. Kevin, you are a hero.
I agree with you
All these forces because of two men , one woman and two little girls ? Wow
Lol the Charging handel on the M16 is all the way back wtf lol.
Amen. This is a good topic for a video, btw.
Sheriff's, Marshalls, ATF, National Guard, Hostage teams, Highway patrols, Rangers, I mean how much law enforcement does America need.
Only the local sheriff
now i know exactly what didn't happen
It happen a little different but all of the same the FBI and Marshall's and ATF suck I hope they all members what thay did for the rest of there lives .
So sad
Sad
God bless the weavers
@@Thebeatles19632 boot sucker
@@Thebeatles19632 They never announced themselves, shot first, and threw rocks at the house for what is effectively no reason (how many reactions can a dog have?) or with the knowledge in mind that the dog would chase them. But hey, at least that six man heavily-armed (automatics, NODS, cammies) """recon team""" paid off dinnit?
Also, recall what the FBI Deputy Assistant Director, Danny Coulson, wrote during the siege:
1. Charge against Weaver is Bull Shit.
2. No one saw Weaver do any shooting.
3. Vicki has no charges against her.
4. Weaver's defense. He ran down the hill to see what dog was barking at. Some guys in camys [camouflage] shot his dog. Started shooting at him. Killed his son. Harris did the shooting. He is in pretty strong legal position.
If a guy comes onto your land and starts shooting (with no prior prompt other than a dog barking), it seems like it's only wrong to shoot back when it's a fed, now innit?
9.35 - Cocking lever lock all the way back???
We are hero's that are pinned down, help us.
Typical they show more of there side (GOVERNMENT) then the people's side!!!!! Today we need to take it back!!!!!!
An airstrike would have solved the whole problem early on
A lot of this movie is grossly inaccurate. However, the human scenes, the emotions of the participants are portrayed quite well. It makes both sides a bit more human, even after all the racist smearing of the weaver family.
Why did they feel like they needed tanks and helicopters? The laws should really be changed so that no such military weapons can be used against Americans. Also why was the National Guard activated? It's only ONE family. They're not a hurricane.
None of this makes sense.
Why didn’t they make a move on the cabin while they slept? They watched them the whole night and tried to get out once they realised the dog could sense them. But it wasn’t great at sensing them in the dark. It seems like the element of surprise is what was needed here
Sent "the Best" we have.... Bull shit!!!! Fucked up the whole operation.
30:07 looks like they are about to bust grandma for some weed
9:16 Noscoped
and the days just get worse.look at us now see were we have gone.
15:42. They have no idea at all what it's about? What hicks!
The 3 letter agencies haven’t gained any more common sense since this tragedy, unfortunately. Treating American people as an income and advertising source.
It seems to me this family just had the ideology of the farmers in the olden days protect your family protect your land and the right to bear arms and their devout love for Christianity but when Big Bad government gets a wind of it they don't want that so they had to wipe them out
OMG
They want to justify what they did with this flick!
10:01 spot the problem with that rifle...
They obviously gave the actor an empty gun with the bolt held open and the dust cover closed, then the actor on his own thought "what's this thing for," pulled the charging handle back, and then didn't know what to do and he left it hanging out there, LOL.
I noticed that right away
I don't agree with their ideology and i am a black man but this family wasn't doing anything other than trying to live peacefully its a shame they couldn't even do that.
ZOG is afraid. Very afraid.
The Weavers were innocent and were American Patriots. The Weavers were good people.
They told Randy the wrong Cort date. There is an interview about that . But the government sucks
Why does Sammy Weaver have a shaved head in this? In reality he had a full head of hair.
Move to a remote area because you feel the government is corrupt and the government follows you and proves you right. God bless the Weavers, true american heroes.
WOULD HAVE BEEN FUNNY IF WHEN RANDY WAS SHOOTING AND CRYING HE WOULD HAVE ACCIDENTLY SHOT THE DAUGHTER TOO. THEN THEY START SCREAMING AGAIN. LOL!
This fuckin movie is so disgusting. How can they make such a fucked up movie and not get sued?? This is one of the worse movies Ive seen in a long time
Indeed, this is TV drama at is best...
I was told that this movie was inaccurate. That the family did not go around marching Hi Ho Hitler marching around their neighbor's house when they would not come out and play when the neighbor children was restricted from playing with the Weaver children. But if this is true, i can certainly see how the government was worried and played safe regarding the Weaver family and the dad you refused to go to court. But 500 military offercers? !!! WOE! Of course we know that no mater what, they were wrong about how they handled things, snippers all around ready to pick off anything that moved, appalling to say the least, "Thou shalt NOT KILL!!" Scripture says we follow the rules of the land unless they conflict with YaHUah's laws, the Father made a big mistake by missing his court date and suffered the worst way possible. I guess the Father is an atheist today, and His older daughter Sarah?, is christian. I am so moved and inspired by her testimony and find her a courageous woman of YHUH. What a life time story, experiences, and lessons to learn. And as always, a Father YaHUah, who is our shelter in the storm a tall tower to run to when things get dark! The name of YaHUah is a strong tower: the righteous runneth into it, and is safe (Proverbs 18:10).
One family-enemy of US Marshall and the police,that's to much
Matthew 6:22-24:
The light of the body is the eye: if therefore your eye be single, your whole body shall be full of light. But if your eye be evil, your whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in you be darkness, how great is that darkness!
No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. You cannot serve God and mammon.
There was no need for any of this. Why didn't the ambush the man while out with his son? He is no hero to endanger his family like this. Poor children. I mean if you have a court date... go.... this is a tragedy of feds mistakes and a man who place dhis fmaily in harsh wya while he spat in their faces. It's wrong to canonized this man. HE wa s afool.
The children were raised in a personal vendetta/ Un Godly Cult of the life style and through the eyes of thier parents. They were the victims.
That wasn't a cult that's how they choose to live. And cult is a for letter word it's not all of the right information .
You would think if they had all those guns they might have invested in some body armor, would have saved the kid assuming it was lvl 3+.
most of the time not from a rifle bullet they stop pistol caliber rounds but not 223 and 308 fmj rounds i would think most men would not kill a little boy or his dog over such a small case. after the fact failure to appear was the only thing weaver got convicted of they gave him 3.5 million buck in a settlement for wrongful death.
Julie Smith also remember this is 1992, body armor wasn't as advance as it is now, also the armor that was is highly protected and secret to the government.
The young boy was hit with SUB MACHINE GUN rounds . "SUB" meaning subsonic .
SMG refers to the pistol rounds being used in them, not to being subsonic.
But nobody should have to have on body armor at their own home or property. I don't believe that they would have just opened fire on the officers. They come out armed if they hear noises outside or someone pulling up... Yes... but they live in the middle of nowhere so if they aren't expecting company I can see being alarmed until you see what's up. When someone is serving an arrest warrant they typically knock on the front door and show identification not dress in head to toe camo and sneak through the trees up your property with sniper rifles and murder your family pets. I highly doubt the Weavers would have burst out of the house and started shooting them up, however, if they were so afraid of that possibility then why didn't they just wait for him to come down the mountain headed into town like the first time? He's not gonna stay in the house forever and if a neighbor alerted cops like last time then by the time the Weavers got into town a cop would have enough time to be there waiting. He literally only sold a couple of guns. It's not like he was an arms dealer supplying mass amounts of weapons to most of the west coast. Maybe the old saying is true.... What you fear, you create....
US MRASHALS made them pay. I salute these brave men. Taught the weavers u dont fuck with the law.
That’s me @36:26
About Guns: A village in an Asian province where all the citizens were armed had a series of murders of a chieftisns family, the governor deicded to strip all the citizens of their weapons. When the communists, common gangsters found out, they poured in their like locusts and took over. Turning the citizens into victims co-operating with whomever swung through. Different part of the world, I know. Principle stands.........An Armed people are the best defense to foreign&domestic invasions.
Sounds like the movie "They Live" by John Carpenter.
/watch?v=G-sn9FgY_gs
I believe that this film maker knew about what you're saying. It is amazing that Hollywood even allowed it. I highly recommend renting or buying this movie.
Why didn't they bring in a couple B2'S??
The movie is amazing and the performance of the actors is very good but i want to ask something .. Was he a racist and had the kkk beliefs as the movie said ? There is a scene where his kids shout "white power" and holding guns and he is telling them to keep thier fight for the N**ers and the jews .does this really happened ? I am not American and not white and even though the movie shows him as a racist nazi but i feel sympathy toward him . I think whoever made the movie wanted to ruin his image . Because his wife said true things and she said it in the 80s .. she said the govt controlled by zionists and they want to make a one world economy to make the people slaves to them .and i think this is true . Most of the world population now work hard thier entire life just to afford thier basic needs. Back in mid ages slaves used to work for food and shelter .. and this is almost whats happening now .
So ATF killed the dog than Sam killed the agent. Dammit man. Poor dog. RIp DOggy Heaven. Randy Weaver should of went to court. fucking wen u tell everone u aint goign surrendered without fighting thats what happens. WACO to ruby ridge to next hood shooting. Best way to avoid trouble? Dont get in trouble, only defend yourself and family.
So dad violates the law? Kid shoots at a US Marshall? Well I think both sides are both equally stupid. Follow the law and this wouldn't have happened.
tony sotamayor "Follow the law and this wouldn't have happened." Same goes for people like Michael Brown in Ferguson
+tony sotamayor A sniper coward shot and killed the child. From the boys perspective he was just shooting out and not really a threat to anyone.
Except that Randy Weaver didn't violate any laws, at least knowingly. In fact, the whole thing that was a direct result of entrapment, so the Feds were 100% in the wrong here.
I SSMDad the interesting thing I learned is this same sniper who took the shot in the weavers was also deployed to the Waco Texas Massacre. a Delta force sniper with a history of 'black ops.'
Some of their ideas were crazy, yes, but the bottomline is that they weren't trying to attack anyone so the government should have left them alone, especially since as you say Randy's only "crime" was the result of government entrapment.
There is nothing funny about this movie
1138thz It’s not supposed to be funny. It’s a warning.
That poor agent gave his life.
bad movie
Weaver and his pal got exactly what they deserved. Take your tinfoil hats off and stop watching Alex Jones..
Steve P then why were charges dropped and they awarded 3 million dollars in a civil suit??