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Lets learn DBFZ! - About Vanish attack combos
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- čas přidán 14. 03. 2018
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Made on request! Some of you watching will find this stuff very basic but there is still many people at all skill levels so I am doing my best to help everyone. Covering absolute basic vanish cancel stuff, talking about how some characters work with character specific stuff, and more.
0:01 - the basics
2:50 - talking about character specific stuff
6:45 - some vanishes don't even need wallbounces to combo!
Made on request! As always glad to make request videos if I think I can help on the subject. I know vanish combos for some are easy peasy now but we still have tons of people at all sorts of skill levels so we need to help everyone level up together.
Perhaps you could take a look at empty Vanish in the next video. It's when you have Sparking Blast activated and you press *and hold* the Vanish buttons. Your basic Vanish attack won't come out so you can do custom combos.
Already detailed that in several different videos friend!
rooflemonger Thanks for making this video! This is just the kind of video I was looking for when I asked on that GameFAQs board a few days back.
@@rooflemonger what vids is empty vanish/changing the vanish attack idk how to do it.
You can actually do the medium quarter circle back grab with android 16 after vanish
Helium you can do the same with vegito
I think this game has brought in a lot of fresh blood, including me. This is my first anime fighter, and really, the first fighter I've bought in a long time since I went PC exclusive (most seem to have problems being ported to PC...). Point being, a lot of factors were in place to create a surge of noobs, so these vids about the basics are very much appreciated!
Ah, I see you're a man of purple as well.
this video was super useful. I havent played fighting game in a long time so i gotta learn all that, it doesnt come quite natural to me
Purp on deck
Vanish into starting combo from the ground is without any doubt the hardest combo to make for me in the game. It's ridicilously difficult and monstrous respect to anyone capabile of doing this. Maybe on pad its easier but on stick... hell...
I don't want to be that guy but it just isn't all that hard. You'll get it within a week probably if you keep playing
Great as always. Your vids and breakdowns are my favorite to watch and learn from. Piccolo is a particularly nuanced character. A tips and tricks video on him would be appreciated. He is thought to be low tier despite players like HookgangGod makiing him look like a true threat.
I can’t even lie it times I forgot the after you vanish you are is still plus as long as you aren’t in the air
KELSOKELSO25 what?
Francisco Frias If u do a vanish on a grounded opponent and it's blocked, then you can still press buttons without getting hit(u have the advantage). If u vanish to a airborne opponent and it gets blocked then it becomes whoever has the faster character wins
Correct. I ALWAYS forget this. But be careful because your normals may possibly still be too slow to beat something out, or the opponent way do an invincible option
Excellent video bro I hope your channel grows man!!!
I hope my channel grows too :-0
Thanj you for this! If you get the chance can you do one on optimal ways to implement spark mode to extend combos? Such as to finish a character off when you have spark with hella meter saved up?
Well general rule is you want it earlier in the combo. It doesn't extend your hit-stun decay any so earlier the better. Either that or at the exact end of the combo to get in one last hit(usually dragon rush in corner into special, into super).
Another thing with vanish combos. There’s a SOUND QUE when they bounce off the wall after a vanish which is when you should press medium attack
6:30 Dende is coming??? YESS HYPEEE
as a total noob just picking up the game, and binge watching ur vids.. you tend to call out moves and shit that i have no idea what it is.. for example early in the vid ur like combo into a sweep.. and im thinking well thats cool i wish i knew what sweep was.. and ur vids have this effect over and over and over and over and over
I missed this one lol once again great video bro !!
Awesome video man super helpful
Can you do a video on timing assists to extend combos?
Dude you got to show your inputs. Is it a dash or dash holding down the direction you want? I appreciate your hard work, but the people having trouble with vanish combos need to see notations or how mechanically your doing the combo.
Well honestly you can easily eyeball it from the video itself. Do you see just a quick dash or a full on run? Don't need inputs to tell you that. But for the most case basic combos all you need is dash and cancel into a button, for something like the 16 setup as shown in the video, you will need a run.
You should try and do a guide on basics about knowing when to spend meter and how to spend it. Lots of my friends struggle with it and throw away loads of bar
Awesome video! Can you please do a video explaining the timing of when you can dash when doing a vanish after a long combo.
Can u do a video about the limits of the combo system, and why long combos will drop sometimes?
Trevor Wrldon Hit stun decay (how long till enemy can act) increases as the combo chain gets longer. That's why it's easier to drop combos at the end. The timing has to be tighter at the end of the combo, where the timing is much more forgiving at the start.
Great content bro keep it up. Can u help with timing on assist combos?
Got a video about that already! Check out "about using assists in combos"
what about vanishing without attacking ?
For some reason beerus has a very inconsistent vanish where sometimes itll combo and other times the same thing wont. Also is anybody experiencing issues with block. Like youre holding the back button and not pressing anything else and for some reason the character stops blocking midway
Shahaan Mirza I don't seem to have that problem
They either are hitting you with a low attack if you aren’t low blocking or are low blocking and hit you with an overhead
Everyone can do this? I'm having problems with it. I think I need to practice this for like a hour before I can do it unless its different in the new season
He's talking about the characters though
thanks, I really love your videos. :-) could you also do a quick guide on jump canceling after a super dash? On the ground everything is fine, but after a super dash (e.g. a tag out) it fails every time... I seem to always jump above the enemy and miss. I would really like to convert a super dash into 1-2x jump cancel normal attack combos.
If you are going above their head make sure not to use LL(light light) as your combo but use light medium. The light light part of auto combo gives you additional height you may not want in that situation.
thank you. that seems to be the problem in general, even in corner combos. I always do LL instead of LM. I guess, I mash L too often. I am working on doing precise inputs, but then my speed drops and the combo fails...more lab time I guess :-(
What I’d like to see is a video of some memorizable BnB combos and how to time them for say Cell or 16 or Gohan something like that
already got vids up for cell and 16 bnbs
Hey man, can you do a video on the first few things we should practice in training mode. I want to know where to start
Can you make a video on Option selecting tech options on a soft knock down. Hell do hard knock down too bc your standard IAD to cover up and back tech doesn't cover delay or back tech into parry.
I stuggle so hard to catch them on the ground with Frieza's 2M, walking forward isn't fast enough, double dash is too fast.
am I missing something?
Other than the enemy.
I try to dash forward and medium but I usually get a stupid slow overhead
I've been wanting to know why some times when I vanish I don't get the wall bounce.
Am I supposed to dash to combo after the wall bounce, or just move forward?
How do you make them switch out after the dragon rush?
jerome willis hold the switch buttons in accordance with who want to come out during the dragon rush (PS4) L1 for the second character L2 for the second the 3rd
Ummm how do you run forward double tap and hold ?
Wait bro how do u sprint in to the character cuz when I do it I fail because I don’t know how to sprint plz help
just forward, forward
I dont know if you have a vid talking about it, it is worth it to use special atk with H? (Meter version of moves) they seem to do same dmg as M moves.
Usually if the damage is the same, either the move has a different property, or is much faster. Always depends on the situation.
specials either do more damage or have situational properties that are good like covering certain angles, crossing up, etc etc.
Does anyone know how people do vanishes that lead to a overhead instead of a kick
Hold vanish buttons when sparking.
How do u vanish and hit your opponent without making them wall bounce?
What i am not getting is the timing
How do you sweep?
Ok am I an idiot or is the timing on this very slim? Most of the time when I dash in to hit my medium after vanish they recover before I can hit them. It's very frustrating how inconsistent this feels for me.
MasterTahir LordofNoobs go in practice mode, it was hard for me at first too
Can we get Yamcha soon? :3c
I will get around to as many characters as I can in time! It takes time for me to get to the point where I am comfortable enough with a character to make a specific video of em.
How about how to stop/avoid/do the continuous Dragon rush in the air thing people do (I've seen a Goku black player do it me and I could get put or at least didn't know how to
to get out of a dragon rush, either do one yourself, or try and hit it with a fast normal. Normals will clash with a dragon rush. Hope this helps. Nobody should be doomed to endless dragon rush. Also try to jump or avoid it, assuming you’re talking about they constantly tag your characters in
Nothing in Particular yeah that one where they keep Dragon rush taging me out, other then that thank you
Do you have a discord server we could join? For tips, matchmaking, to stay up to date and all of that?🤔 id gladly be apart of that community it you started it tbh
I don't use discord personally. If you ever wanna ask me stuff directly you can always ask on stream or on my twitter.
rooflemonger awesome, I don’t mind that at all. Do you stream on twitch or youtube?
stream on twitch. twitch.tv/rooflemonger, twitter handle is the same.
rooflemonger k got it, thanks!
i cant do the vanish where you do nothing
You can only do that in sparking blast, and you have to hold the buttons. So tap gives you regular vanish, hold gives you the empty vanish
Well if people are asking you to make videos like this I might as well ask
Q: HOW DO I PICK UP A CONTROLLER AND GO TO PRACTICE MODE (the lab) AND FIGURE SOME OF THIS STUFF FOR MY SELF? ...... cause you know I don’t wanna just sit and watch tutorials all day but I guess that’s what we do know and days
Benny Sea LMAO this is a funny ass comment
Well for me, it helps to have 25+ years experience in fighting games. So play fighting games for 27 years like I did and it should help you out.
But seriously, its one of those things where the better you get, you start to know to how to look for stuff without being told. In the age of the internet there's so much help out there and there is no shame in taking it cause I sure didn't have it growing up. The more you play the better you get, the better you get the more you understand, the more you understand the more you can figure stuff out and pick everything apart.
Benny Sea some people are aural learners, also you cant expect people to know alot of this especially if they are new to fighting games. I've been playing fighting games for ten years and i still watch tutorials to learn bnbs and frame data, all in all this is practice i watch these tutorials while I'm in training mode and i'm sure other people do too, so please be quiet and let people get good at the game.
If I can look it up and find a video explaining this stuff, I will. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that.
why after wall bounce ill always miss the sweep or 5m sometimes
They are too high up then
ok ill try to vanish lower to ground because that always works so far