My wife and I watch QUANTUM OF SOLACE for the FIRST time || Movie Reaction
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- We're continuing our James Bond journey watching Quantum of Solace for the FIRST time!
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The shaky cam quick cuts is exactly why John Wick was such a breathe of fresh air, with it's wide panning shots and all in one well choreographed action sequences.
It's great to actually SEE what the hell is going on in an action movie again.
Yeah it's so cancerous. I can't believe that shaky cam crap ever caught on in the first place. Like Holden says, it's such a waste when they actually did the hard work of the practical action stuff.
@@CosmicAeon Its really just a cover to hide the poor editing or choreo honestly. John Wick can afford to show all of it because its so fucking good
I think the Bond franchise saw how well the Bourne trilogy did and tried to emulate that. Also, Bourne relied on his training and improvised with what was immediately available, whereas Bond was always dependent upon gadgets provided by Q.
@@Jimbo7 It definitely hides the fact that some actors in these films aren't very good at doing action and the quick cuts and shaky cam give the illusion they are. The only times I've not been annoyed by either was Saving Private Ryan and Band of Brothers because it's supposed to convey how chaotic the fighting could be in WWII.
I still think this is a rather solid Bond film, but it suffered severely in the editing room. It's chopped up way too fast. But that is because there was actual behind-the-scenes problems as I believe the movie passed off to a different editor, and it shows in the final product.
There was a writer's strike going on as well at the time so the script was in bad shape too. The quick cut editing is REALLY obnoxious in this one.
I'd still pick this over spectre any other day
It has one of if not the worst theme song in the franchise though
@@sparky10142 This had the better Bond girl that's for sure
@@sparky10142 thank goodness I'm not the only one. Spectre is trash.
I like this movie more when you think of it as a casino royale part 2. Its Bond hunting down the people who are responsible for Vespers death while trying to grieve her, but in the process meets a woman who also needs the same catharsis as him and gives him the opportunity to grieve properly.
Really hated that kiss though.
Who is the guy at the end of the film with the Canadian Intelligence operative and what was even going on with that scene. I don't know what that piece of jewelry was either. I kept up with everything till that last scene the last time I watched the film but I blinked or got a drink or something and completely missed what was going on with it.
@@parker469a He's what is called a honeypot. They use these men and women to compromise people with access to sensitive information. In this case this guy had infiltrated the life of Vesper (The woman who betrayed Bond and MI6 at the end of Casino Royal) and pretended to be her fiance. They then pretended to kidnap him in order to get Vesper to betray MI6 and Bond. But of course he was in on it. The necklace was the same as the one Vesper was wearing and seems to be a sort of thing that this guy likes to give his marks to gain their affection. The woman in this movie was his next target, someone who worked in Canadian Intelligence (probably as a staffer, someone with access to sensitive information, but not so high up in the organization that she would draw attention).
Early on in the movie M tells Bond that his corpse was found washed up on a beach and that he was the reason she betrayed MI6. Of course that corpse (which was unrecognizable) was a decoy to throw MI6 of his track. Bond didn't buy it and managed to find him. They will now try and pump him for more information about the Quantum organization.
The TV series "The Americans" gives a great insight into how these sort of operations were carried out in the Cold War era.
@@YouHaventSeenMeRight Okay, thank you. I missed that he was the "kidnapped" boyfriend since I don't recall ever seeing him and I didn't recognize the necklace. Throughout the movie we see a bunch of jewelry so I never noticed Vespa's neckless in particular. Now it makes sense.
I had gotten the feeling he was mentioned in a sentience or two in the beginning of the movie but I didn't know what was supposed to be in reference to him specifically.
While flawed in many, many ways, one thing that "Quantum" did keep up is Bond's emotional attachment. The Craig films flipped Bond's legendary detachment to a more complex appearance of aloofness while still being invested in the people around him. I'm very excited for the next one which is arguably the best of the Craig era films!
The script for this was impacted by the Writers' strike in 2007-2008 which is why it seems pretty cobbled together. It's pretty widely regarded as the worst of the Craig Bond films, and Craig himself said it's his least favorite performance as Bond calling the film a "shit-show"
It is for sure the worst of the Craig films :/
Spectre is by far the worst IMO. Just a flat out bad Bond flick that feels so incredibly dated.
@@tonyharrison2112 Spectre is indeed pretty bad. Craig looked bored throughout and wanted to be anywhere but making that movie. It was almost his last one as well. No Time to Die was an improvement in some ways. Frankly both Casino Royale and Skyfall were the best ones of his run as the character.
@@alucard624 I was SOOOO disappointed with Spectre after Skyfall. A great indicator I don't like a film (and it's VERY rare) is when I feel bored in the cinema and actually looked at my watch a couple of times! The "bond girl" character seemed super dull too.
true, even the action sequences, which would've at least partially saved it, are ruined by the absurd split-second cutting and shaky cam. The writers strike wounded the film but the editor/director finished it off themselves.
The actress that plays Camille Olga Kurylenko also plays Taskmaster in Black Widow
Also the actor who played General Medrano also was one of the antagonist in the suicide squad
The next one (Skyfall) is my favorite of all 5 Craig's Bonds. We see a lot more of the relationship between M and Bond, which is great, and how they care about each other. One of the best Bond's opening sequence, title song and villain. Will watch for sure!
Im soooo happy yall are running through these movies, I get what you're saying about this movie for sure and honestly I felt kind of the same way. But after seeing the next couple movies and all the connective tissue that toos come with Spectre i feel like elevate this movie. The overall story these movies are telling is pretty dope
The test of any actor playing Felix Leiter is- Do we think he could be the lead in his own movie series? For Jeffery Wright, the answer is absolutely yes.
I'll be honest, Jen's British accent has genuinely been getting better over time.
Wrong
Casino Royale and QOS are best viewed as one, 4-hour movie. It flows better if you think of it this way.
And while it wasn't on your edited cut of your video here, the scene on the plane with Mathis where Bond says he can't remember what he's drinking (with Vesper's musical theme playing) is simply heartbreaking.
I actually wrote a paper on how the Bourne films impacted action movies and their camerawork. A lot of people tried to replicate the style but missed nearly every time.
The editing of this definitely held it back. It reminded me of 'Taken 2' when they'd literally cut 10 times in a 5 second clip. It's disorienting and takes you out of the action rather than make it more amped up. I liked the story a bit in this and I also like how different it was from the 1st. I didn't want a clone of the last movie. And I really, really did like Camille. I liked how she could hold her own and wasn't just there as someone for Bond to sleep with. She was only interested in her own personal revenge and I respect that. And now it's time for 'Skyfall' which is, in my personal opinion, one of the best James Bond movies. Period. It's a fantastic movie.
i can't wait till you both watch Skyfall Jen is really going to love it...since it's right up her preferred Dark and Twisted Alley in look and story wise
The fast cuts are meant to reflect Bonds mind state dealing with Vesper's "betrayal." He's literally flying by the seat of his pants with no regard for anything, killing everyone and just being reckless. It's kinda meant to show how he's seeing the world.
I also think people's complaints about not being able to follow it are overblown. I don't think there were any scenes that I couldn't follow exactly what was happening. Whether or not people like it however is up to them, but watchability wasn't really an issue for me.
Yes it’s a period of transition from “blunt instrument” to sophisticated superspy
What I liked about the Craig era is that the villains and their organization "Quantum" are believable in today's world; they are like a shadow world order.
Agent Fields death is a homage to Jill Mastersons Golden paint death in Goldfinger
I think of these two movies as two parts of one big Bond novel. Vesper, Mathis, M learning to truly trust Bond, Mr. White, and Quantum (Le Chiffre/Greene) are all fully fleshed out by the end of the second movie. Because while I loved Casino Royale, there were way too many loose ends at the end of that one. QoS is underappreciated.
My favorite part of this movie is the extra clearly sweeping the air instead of the ground with his broom lol. Actually really enjoy this Bond movie even though it is flawed, but think many people underestimate is.
14:19 "Emotional Connection." LMAO.
Right off the back of Holden's Craig pronunciation correction we get 'sow-lace' ^^
Haha I noticed that as well. Cracked me up reading your comment.
I love the bad dad jokes from Holden and awesome shade-side-eue from Jenn lol
The last Bourne movie came out in 2007, and many of the people who worked on those movies were in Quantum... The cinematographer said in an interview that he wanted to make you feel something through the editing, and whether that was nausea or excitement. He said that if you felt anything at all, he won... editing aside, I really love this movie for its complex characters and brutal action...
14:20
God, I love Jen's reactions to your dirty remarks! So hilarious! "What was she covered in!?" "...Emotional Connections!" xD
7:47 Ooooh NOW I realize where I've seen Hopper before! And watching the film again, I can definity recognize him.
This is my favourite movie of the series. It’s short but it’s better to look at it like Casino Royale Part 2. Really enjoy the visceral feel with the lack of gadgets, and how they didn’t just treat Vespers death like nothing. It lingers and really goes into how he’s dealing with it. Coupled with a good setup for later films
Holden finally pronounces Craig correctly, then immediately says "Quantum of Soulless" :DD
Another great reaction guys! Jen looking so purdy as usual, love the contrast.
The woman with Bond Camille is Olga Kurylenko who played Antonia, AKA Taskmaster in Black Widow.
If you didn't know, the main actress is the same actress from the Black Widow movie that played Taskmaster.
Please watch blade runner and blade runner 2049 eventually!!
Great review. I've always felt that this film was a filler between the rawness of Casino Royale and the perfection of Skyfall. Like it needed to exist to get us from one place to the other. Can't wait for the next one!
Just dropping in to say I love Jens shirt! Very cool
The way I like to think about the Craig franchise is that the even numbered movies (2 & 4) are just okay, while all the odd numbered movies are amazing. Personally my favourite is Skyfall, so can’t wait for you to get to that next, but Casino Royale and No Time To Die are pretty even at second place.
*The title animation + song goes hard and is the sole reason I keep coming back to watch this movie.*
If you watch this series over again, Quantum of Solace really grows on you. Casino Royale and Skyfall are the clear best of the series
Agree. So many people missed the point of this movie. Jen seemed to get it though. But I know, not everyone likes everything. This movie was Bond making peace with his own grief and demons about Vesper's death.
Skyfall is a pretty bad Bond film.
I like that you pointed out that Dominic Green looks like Stuart from The Big Bang Theory because that's all I was thinking about when I saw this movie for the first time
Bourne editing style aside, I had a lot of respect for them not forcing the "Bond, James Bond" in this. In fact, it's the only Bond film that doesn't have it, and considering how much of a given it's always there, the fact that they stayed true to Bond being so hurt that there was never a moment for him to say it; they admitted as much as well, so that earns massive points.
Yeah, put aside any writer's strike and cobbling together this one suffered, especially considering the number of flicks in this series over the decades, I can absolutely give it some slack. It's a beautiful big-budget epilogue that wasn't necessary and I love it for that. I even wished they brought Camille back when Bond had to revisit the region again.
Casino Royale was always marketed/shown to be a Bond Begins/Becoming Bond type of quasi-origin movie... the beginning even tells you he's earning his "two kills" status and M saying it might have been too soon to give him a double-O status... but if you're liking his rough-around-the-edges version here, I hope you try the 'before-he-was-before' movie, Layer Cake... it was the flick the producer's saw and realized they had their next Bond.
I haven't seen No Time To Die yet but Quantum of Solace is definitely my least favorite Daniel Craig Bond movie.
This film suffered because of a writers strike during production. But despite that, it still had great action and acting.
To this day my favorite Bond line comes from this movie. ”you and I had a mutual friend“ before shooting the guy in the face
Hope you guys can do the Mission Impossible ones too. Have you done the Bourne ones?
It only gets better and better from here.
This film has grown on me over the years. It used to be near the bottom but it's definitely moved out of my bottom 5. The editing is the main problem but this may be one of Craig's best performances
1) Tie: Casino Royale/No Time To Die. Not sure which one I like more. One had a better villain, the other a better ending.
3) Skyfall
4) Quantum of Solace
5) Spectre
Can’t wait for you guys to watch sky fall. One of my favorite movies!
Yay! Back with more of Daniel Craig's James Bond! What a fantastic adventure! I also love that you both are accenting the CRAIIIIGGG hahahah, because people take that so seriously, LOL!
Just wanted to say, I have really enjoyed watching these types of videos over the years. I did want to make a quick comment about British pronunciations, though: Daniel's last name, Craig, is pronounced like the name. Phonetically, in England, it is "[ k r ai g ]". In the US, it is "[ k r EH g ]". And although it sounds like they are calling everyone "mom", they are actually saying "ma'am". In the UK, they say it as "[mɑ m]", versus in the US where it is pronounced as "[mæm]". Just thought it was a cool bit of trivia! Looking forward to the rest of the Daniel Craig Bond films!
Damn Holden, that beard is coming along insanely strong 💪🏼
I'm really looking forward to Skyfall. I personally think it is the best bond movie ever.
After hearing both of your comments after both films my gut feeling after all 5 Craig films are watched is that Skyfall will be the favorite for both of you. The action is filmed very fluid and coherent, it has a great score and Oscar winning song, the best Craig Bond villain with Javier Bardem’s Silva, and it’s very personal and hits home delving into Bond’s past, and we finally get introduced to a couple more characters that are pivotal to the Bond lore. I believe it was also Oscar nominated for best cinematography, it’s one of the the best looking of all the Bonds.
Jens shirt literally explains this relationship.
I have watched Casino Royale a lot over the last few months and as well as being thoroughly entertaining it has also done something I didn't think was possible... It has made me realise that Quantum of Solace is in fact quite a good film. Sure, it has some pretty significant weaknesses such as the frantic editing during action sequences and muddled plotting but I'm often inclined to forgive execution issues when the intentions are good and there are hints of brilliance peeking through. There is some really great stuff here like the use of Camille as a reflection of Bond and his journey and battle with grief and revenge.
As I mentioned previously the plot is muddled and unfolds at breakneck speed which on a first watch can really distract you from the great work being done under the surface. Until my most recent watch of Quantum of Solace I, like everyone in the film thought James was out of control and stacking up bodies on a quest for revenge when in actuality he is doing the total opposite. He has buried himself in his work in an attempt to hide from his grief. All of the kills he carries out are either for good unemotional reasons or unavoidable, and most importantly he does not take revenge by killing Dominic Greene or Yusef Kabira who were the 2 people actually complicit in Vesper's death.
It does have significant flaws and it may actually work better as an extended coda to Casino Royale but Quantum of Solace is a better film than it is given credit for, that tells a story about revenge and whether there is any solace to be found in not pursuing it.
If you do want to check out some of the older ones, the first three Connery films are great (his 4th and 5th are still classics but heavily flawed and less essential). It would also make sense to watch On Her Majesty's Secret Service before No Time to Die, as the latter is kind of a spiritual sequel to OHMSS. The other must see films are The Spy Who Loved Me, both Dalton films and GoldenEye.
Holden really can't help but banepost whenever a plane is involved
14:15 #94 can barely even hear that one. 🤣
Yeah this one definitely is the slowest, but after this i’m so excited for you guys to continue. I really love skyfall!!!
1:59 This is why we love Jen.
I know you said you were only gonna watch the 5 Craig movies because there is so many but I do think you should watch a few others, "The world is not Enough" and "Golden Eye" for Brosnan, and at least one Connery Bond Film. I know most will say Goldfinger for Connery.
Holden that shirt is 🔥🔥🔥
Speaking of deleted scenes, I heard a humorous anecdote that the original opening chase sequence with the cars at the top of the film had a third car following bond that was cut out from the final edit. But the camera shakes around so much that no one could tell the difference! Definitely, content was deleted from the film. Out of 27 films, this is the shorted running time for the EON franchise.
For me, personally, this was quite a step down from Casino Royale. Felt like an afterthought to Casino Royale. Or, as a friend put it, Casino Royale was 2.5 chapters of Bond - 1) Ellipsis, 2) Casino Royale, 3a) Vesper's story, Part 1 and Quantum of Solace is the second half of the final chapter - 3b) Vesper's story, Part 2.
If you're interested in another Bond "Revenge" movie that goes in a tone similar to the Daniel Craig movies and features more realistic villains than those with volcano and moon bases, check out "License to Kill," the second Timothy Dalton film. Dalton was a last-minute replacement for "The Living Daylights," which was intended to be the final Roger Moore film, but Moore disliked his previous film and felt he was getting to old. Dalton had originally been a choice to replace Sean Connery prior to Moore taking the role, but the producers felt he was too young at the time. When he finally got the role, he said his intention was to bring Bond back to the gritty stories of the original novels, as opposed to the extravagant over-the-top nature of the films. "License to Kill" was definitely a push in that direction. Unfortunately, a number of issues lead to no further Bond films being developed for the next 6 years. By then, Dalton's contract lapsed and he declined to return. Thus, we entered the Pierce Brosnan tetralogy.
Oh, and since I didn't get the chance to say it in the last video, the rights to Casino Royale moving over to MGM is what actually got the Sam Raimi Spider-Man movies put into development. After several companies went to court to battle for ownership of the Spidey movie rights, it was determined that both Columbia and MGM owned them at 50% each. Sony had also owned the rights to Casino Royale, since they were purchased and was adapted out of continuity from the original EON Production films. Both companies agreed to transfer their rights to the other. Sony released Spider-Man in 2002 and Casino Royale came in 2006 as Reboot of the series.
Massively underrated film and one of Craig’s best
One of the few movies I got motion sickness just from all the quick cuts
You guys are gonna love skyfall
The quick cuts at the beginning was because it was a fast and frenetic chase. Later on with the more standard chases the cuts were lessened.
Holy shit, that WAS STana Katic in the end with that end scene.. The detective from Castle. Only reason I know her name, but still xD
Says "Craig" the British way, immediately gets "solace" wrong. Beautiful work.
Holden is an OG for recognising the Stuart lookalike. 😂😂
Can't wait for Skyfall, the best Graig-Bond film!
The next one is the BEST imo and I can't wait until you guys check it out. I love Skyfall SO MUCH
I know the pronunciation of Craig must be a weird one, but thats just how its said in Scotland (and the rest of the uk). It's funny jen mentioned that maybe its crag, because it means rock in gaelic.
I love the BTAS shirt!!! You should review Mask of the Phantasm 😀
To any confused Americans; when they say "mum" they arent really saying it like "mom" it is an accented version of them saying "ma'am" so it sounds like "yes mum" but its really "yes ma'am"
Idk that opening car chase always gets me excited for the journey. Shaky cam and quick cuts have their place, imo.
Holden said emotional connection 😂😂😂
I like your opening and ending segments. I am waiting for your reaction to Sky Fall
This films good. Serves as a nice Part 2/Epilogue to Casino Royale, being the more shorter and faster paced film.
People complain about Shaky Cam but there is no shaky cam. Its just hard editing and cuts. Plus they only had like a few weeks to edit it so not really their fault as the studio pushed for a release.
People will say this is the worst one of Craiqs and nope. I think its a solid film with a realistic bad guy and a cool female lead and some cool crazy action. Spectre is hands down the worst one. Having read the original script for it a year before the final film hit and seeing how much they changed, the film was much worse in the end.
One thing that is rarely mentioned by fans but sort of alluded to by M, though she doesn't really seem to comprehend the behavior as the refined tactic that it is, is that Bond's primary operational tactic is to do things that disrupt the bad guys. It seems sometimes like he is a bull in a China shop, but in actuality he likes to rattle their cages and then watches them scramble to make sure they aren't exposed. It's sort of a governing philosophy with Bond. Direct action to elicit reactions and then analyze for weakness.
skyfall is so good, probably my favorite bond movie
Watching you guys react to these bond films, reminds of the equalizer movies!
Skyfall is easily the best one. Cant wait for you both to see it!
Some recommendations: Knives Out, Ready Player One, Baby Driver, and other Christopher Nolan films
Emotional connection 😂
People always have doubts about actors taking on roles, like roger Moore when he played bond at first people were sceptical at first because obviously they had Connery for so many years, then there's like Christian bale who got laughed at for taking on the role of batman but that quickly changed once people seen his movie
Casino and Skyfall are my two fav Craaaig bond movies.
skyfall was my favourite 007 film with daniel criag in spectre was good and I'm not sure about no time to die as I haven't seen it. Hopefully you two react to them all because I really like these films
The Next one is my favourite ! Skyfall is soooo good
A lot of people aren’t aware that they re-booted the whole series with the last one.This is supposed to be a more grounded version and realistic than the other series.After Albert Broccoli died his daughter wanted to redo the whole series.
"soul"-ace
Dude just doesn't know words.
do you plan on watching the old Bond movies as well or have you both already seen those?
You guys are spot on about the editing in this film. It's all over the place and makes the action scenes very chaotic (and not in a good way!). Luckily the next film gets back on track with excellent action pieces.
14:19 Indeed. I was gonna say "baby oil", lol
Lol. I didin't remeber the swiss guy at the harbor.."Es isch scho chlii heis da" (it is a lil bit hot here)
I love the car chase in the beginning. They accidentally wrecked one of the Aston Martins making it and it was driven into water and flooded. The car was auctioned off and the winning bid was higher than it would’ve been to buy a brand new working Aston Martin.
Off topic from the video, idk how you pick the movies, but would love to see the two of you react to some Studio Ghibli films.
Happy Nov 5th
Many have problems with editing, I had no problems with that, it depends on the mental capacity that each one has to retain the images, some need more seconds to assimilate each image and others do not, as in my case, I did not see any problems in that sense, for me the action is very good, it's fast and fast, it's great, it works for me.
I actually love this bond movie
This is the quintessential of how Bond should be!
Marc Forster did a great job continuing the "steely" mood Casino Royale set. MGM hired the worst possible editing team to chop/hack it up. We don't get enough room to breathe nor do we have any inclination to follow Bond's methodic fight patterns when they cut every second of every blow. If there's a log-reel of footage from Forster's entire shoot, he deserves to have a recut version of Quantum of Solace released. Bond aficionados would take it in an instant.
13:43 Makes sense. Water is THE recourse that the world is already fighting over in the 21st century. This film was ahead of its time there in a way. With companies like Nestlé buying up native reserves and selling the water for expensive prices, that war over water has already begun. And as climate change and continues and more water is poisoned at industrial sites like in China or recently at the Polish-German border, that recourse will get rarer and rarer - either drying out or get contaminated in some way or bought up and controlled making it a recourse many people cannot afford.