The Old Forest, Home of Tom Bombadil - Region Spotlight
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- The Old Forest was the home of Tom Bombadil, Goldberry, and Old Man Willow, and while it was great in early ages and lesser in later ones, it remained a mysterious and dangerous place throughout the history of Middle-earth. As always, a great thanks to the online artists whose visual works made this video possible! If you are one of the artists, please let me know and I will post your name and a link to your work in this description!
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Your channel feels like tom Bombadil's home. Just like the work which it honours, It's a refuge from the rest of the world.
Very kind thing to say
I feel the same
So true. This channel feels like the woods of lothlorien! It feels like Bilbos room in Rivendell! I love this channel!
"This forest is old. Full of memory. And anger."
If ever there was a place or character that Tolkien wrote himself into I would place my bets here. His love of nature and trees become so apparent.
I think his view of the Old Forest is one of what the world would have been had there been no involvement of man, or elf. Niether good nor evil. It just is.
The Old Forest feels like how Germany's Black Forest is connected to the Hercynian Forest of ancient Europe. A small and possibly angry fragment of a much much older and much more vast forest of older days.
I'll never get bored hearing tales about Tom and the old forest. Thank you.
I can relate to the Old Forest. Like the trees, I suffered much hurt a long time ago, and while I am not consumed by darkness, the memories do not completely fade.
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I still wonder why Old Man Willow was so evil-hearted. Old Man Willow is seriously one of the great mysteries of the Legendarium.
Old men are always grumpy when they live next door to a musician who sings all day and night...
A tree old enough to have had great roots way back during the Marring of Arda might have drunk up a larger than average dose of the power of Melkor when it was poured into the earth itself?
I was thinking along the lines of Old Man Willow "protects" the forest. He isn't evil hearted so much as anything which doesnt belong to the forest needs to be handled in order to preserve the forest's well being; Bombadil is neither tree nor root nor grass nor animal Old Man Willow would recognize; he lives within the forest but is still a being wholly other to it, regardless of how long he's been there.
OMW has roots deeper than most and memory which goes back farther than record - it would make sense that with all he's seen, all he's felt through the Earth and his extended root network, that he'd want to stop that from coming to his home.
(A bit of speculation based on irl info: tree roots share a symbiotic relationship with mycelium. Mushrooms' mycelium grow around roots to keep them healthy and safe from parasites and in exchange leech some nutrients the tree produces which the mycelium cannot. Roots of any given tree go deep and spread pretty far; Mycelium is one of the largest living creatures on the planet due to how far they can spread unseen. If Old Man Willow has lived as long as we think, and his roots are both expansive AND aided by mycelium, then he can likely taste the blood of countless races as they're being spilled in conflicts across Middle Earth. He knows what and where things are going on due to his network of synapse-like roots - it would make sense he'd be grumpy and unwelcoming of outsiders when he can "see" how destructive they are).
Axes forget, trees remember
@@Your-Least-Favorite-Stranger What you're saying is that good and evil are relative and POV is usually the deciding factor. To OMW, both Tom and the Hobbits are enemies and interlopers; they are not trees.
In POV-Hobbit, OMW sinned against them by trying to kill them; he was NOT acting tree-like. Tom, although not a sinner, had tables made of wood (he killed trees to make them, one would guess, unless he only used dead wood), and he and GB cook and heat with wood. His diet involves no animal deaths, but when he consumes beans or bread (made from matured grain), he is preventing those vegetable germs from replicating. The Old Forest, in fact, only wears the appearance of "peaceful" nature because harmful and beneficial events (all POV labelled) are kept in balance by competing systems.
In this complicated world of ours, it's VERY difficult (or should we say IMPOSSIBLE?) to "do no harm" (AKA evil). One man's bath is death to countless bacteria.
I think one of the more interesting prospects raised by the forests of antiquity in Middle Earth like Fangorn or the Old Forst is the notion that the forest is alive and, in some ways, sentient.
Not just the ents, as I think it’s easy to assume that all references to living trees just mean they’re ents, but the ents are described as shepherds of the trees… so what need is there to shepherd them if they aren’t alive? Shepherds control their flocks, and keep them safe, so what would happen to these trees if the ents weren’t around for that?
It’s the implication of a kind of life that we just can’t understand or fathom. It’s why it’s easy for those who represent industry like Saruman to brush these concerns aside and chop the trees down anyway, but there is clearly evidence of something deeper going on here. And perhaps we’re not meant to understand it, simply acknowledge it and leave it alone to preserve as we found it.
I like Tom Bombadil. He's a merry fellow!
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Really wished Peter Jackson would have included old Tom. Excellent video...... Again!!!
I always listen to Tom Bombadils Song from the Tolkien Ensemble on my iPod when I’m walking through the forest behind my house. I feel a special connection to that song and to him as a character because my name is Tom.
With all the sorrow and desolation Middle Earth has gone through, at least we have solid steady good ole Tom Bombadil to cheer us up. Master of the Forrest cheers to you kind soul🍺
Blessings be upon you,dear Yoystan you're insights are beautiful
Anything Bombadil and I'm in...Ol' Tom is one enigma JRRT left us that hasn't given up all its mystery.
Tom's seemingly timeless age, the Old Forest... makes me think of how Lothlorien (& Galadriel?) had a power over time or time moved differently.
Thomas Bombadil is Middle Earth's best Rapper. With Balin coming in at a close second.
I love these a bit shorter clips, those 30-40min clips can get a bit too rambling.. love your work and dedication, cheers mate!
Epic! I’ve been waiting for talk about the Old Forest! 🌳 Great work! 😊
The Old Forest is a unique piece of Arda, just a little odd and strange. It's somewhat fae and not to be trod by the unwary but has a certain delightful magic of its own.
This is a good video
Reminds me of your “what if Tom Bombadill took the Ring” video
Nooo only 7 minutes long? I wanted a nice 20 minute video to drift off to later on
People today think everything needs an explanation. But, for humanity at large, one of the foundations of our humanity is our large, unexplained foundations. In other words, part of what makes us human is, unexplained. That fact, draws us deeply. That Tolkien puts in large amounts to his world that is unexplained is what draws us in to his world; it resonates with us at a deep level.
Such a fun and enigmatic part of the story
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I'd like to see a region spotlight on Barad'dur
This is an amazing channel.
The Old Forest, otherwise known as the level that made me keep quitting the Fellowship game as a kid since I could never find the other hobbits who got lost because everywhere in that place looks exactly the same. 😂
Recommended: Tales From The Perilous Realm recorded by BBC RADIO, available on CD, contains wonderful evocation of Old Man Willow and the overnight stay at Tom Bombadil's house. Very haunting - where Tom and Goldberry go back through their memories of distant times. Beautifully done, and in a way better than the films as it allowed me to keep to my own imagination when I read the books.
I would have really lived if I could get to see this forest.
That particular corner of the Great Forest. What happens when Huorns go bad and there are no Ents to watch them? What happens when Morgoth casts his shadow in the North trying to corrupt Men? What happens when the Witch-King sends wights to Tiryn Gorthad, some of the oldest burial mounds of the soon to be Edain? This is a place where the Shadow has never been lifted, "And bad memories are handed down", says Fangorn. Imagine one Huorn, falling under the Shadow, and becoming King of that forest. It is telling that while the Numenoreans eliminated virtually all of the Great Forest, they did not touch that corner.
Well written video - lots of thought even though it was shorter than normal. And you already know my thoughts about your excellent diction - you should have a side hustle of reading books on tape (if that's still a thing). Thanks, as always, for the enjoyable entertainment of a Sunday's eve: YOU are the best, my friend.
Nice work dude thanks
I find it very interesting how Old Man Willow lulled the Hobbits to sleep and then trapped them within its trunk/under its roots, which makes me think of Yavanna's words to Manwë: "Would that the trees might speak on behalf of all things that have roots, and punish those that wrong them!" Now, of course, plants do feed on decomposing matter on the ground, and the Hobbits would obviously die if left there to the mercy of Old Man Willow, so I wonder if this was its way of claiming vengeance on the creatures that exploited the forest.
Which is probably not the way that Yavanna intended this Divine Justice to be delivered, but still.
You brought something up about the Old Forest that struck a chord with me: namely that its nature is neither good nor evil - and the same goes for the nature of... er, nature. On this subject, the vibe I get from Tolkien's writings is that the world is neither your friend nor your enemy, but can become either - in concert with your bearing. Life seems to meet the measure of your mind and harmonize with the hum of your heart. If you conduct yourself with grace and integrity, the universe seems to aid you. If you act with malice and greed, the universe seems to thwart you.
I like the thought that Tom Bombadil and Treebeard was friends during the old times. In both Tom Bombadil and Treebeard can I see J.R.R Tolkien.
Great work as always, my friend. You've created such a nice little community in this corner of the internet.
Beautiful all so mysterious
Tom is an enigma. The ring does not affect him.
I would love to see a detailed video about Caradhras. What is the evil spirit that acted against the Fellowship?
In his book about Attila the Hun, John Man includes a great passage to underline how premoderns thought.
"The Forest. To feel the trepidation of the word demands an imaginative leap back to a time when much of Europe beyond the Rhine was still an untamed landscape, its vast, dark woodlands hardly touched. For non-forest people, it was the epitome of danger, the grim and forbidding abode of evil spirits....This was the primeval world of magic and power, the source of life and death, the habitation of prey and predator, where children were lost and witches found and spirits inhabited trees."
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Here’s an idea: What if Bilbo gave Thorin the Arkenstone?
I'm currently re-reading and just finished this chapter... and then this video popped up lol
Man, I am wondering *Well my Mum is not me* what Forest my Home lives in, but we didn't include The Old Forest!!!
I wish we got to see the Old Forest in PJ Films, Oh Man...
Thanks for much for your Video on The Old Forest, Until your Top 5 stories you want to be Adapted for Films...Marion Baggins Out!!!
Would love one day to see a video on the woodmen of mirkwood.
Anything to do with Tom Bombadil the Old Forest and the Mystery of Middle-earth
I think it would be lovely to have ent stories in different forests of the world
I always wondered what Goldberry is...an Elf that somehow adapted to living underwater? A Maiar or some elemental spirit like Osse, that took on a physical form, perhaps an Elvish one, like Melian of Doriath?
Given all the sources cited in the description, you should probably give a shout out to LOTRO and the map of the Old Forest shown at 2:25
Love it!
Nature and forests are not good or evil, they just are. I spend a lot of time in the woods of Louisiana and I have seen some very strange things and creatures and most people in the area are scared of the woods and won't spend much time but I don't fear it and I leave the strange things alone and they leave me alone.
There is perhaps no end to the questions that could be asked. For me, I wonder why the forest didn't expand and become larger again during those many years when men were not around to cut the trees. I would expect the Barrow downs and the empty land to the south to be prime land for the forest to grow into.
I wish our 4 hobbits would get together for a short film where they leave buckland, enter the forest, until Old Tom safely sets them off to the Prancing Pony in Bree
With a barrow white scene too 😎❤
I think its a fitting home for tom and Goldberry to live seeing that the old forest is a very old and mysteries place for to very old and mysteries people and if tom were some how Eru Iluvatar secretly in which he would be watching over men and dwarfs as the valar watch over the elves it would be even more fitting
Delightful
The Old Forest and Tom Bombadil section of Fellowship of the Rings is one of the classic pleb filters in western fantasy fiction.
Have you ever wondered if the Ents were always “tree-ish”, since their beginning? It seems to me that they became more and more tree-ish, in such way that not even the Entwives would recognise them if they met again.
The Ents became tree-ish because that’s what they loved most: trees and forests. Maybe Tom Bombadil was something like the Ents, meaning he was created by a Valar or even Ilúvatar himself, and he grew human-ish because what he loved most was Goldberry. Just maybe.
It makes me immeasurably sad to see it's size by the Third Age. Like the destruction of Dartmoor since the Neolithic.
The house of my merry fellow
One has to wonder how the Old Forest would have reacted if Men, Elves, or Hobbits had tried to *restore* any of it, or help it re-grow beyond its diminished boundaries (whether as a gesture to the Forest or for some practical reason): would the Forest have embraced the strategy, or lashed out violently against anyone who approached? How would Tom be involved?
This could be a legitimate story of the Fourth Age....
Why didn't Tom get rid of the Barrow Whites(probably not the right spelling) and Old man willow? Before the events of LOTR.
I spent a lot of time in forests in my younger days and sometimes there are areas which just feel off. Its hard to explain, they dont look darker, they just feel darker.
Old man willow, gotta watch out.
No Ents tend to this woodland, and it seems to be avoided by Elves as well.
I've watched it too many times .....superb 👏🤣
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How exactly does the Old Forest differ from that of Fangorn and even Mirkwood? Mirkwood seems to have many of the same characteristics as the Okd Forest and the experience of Frodo seems, not the same, but similar to Bilbos in Mirkwood. Like the Forests have a sort of dark enchantment about them and even a sense of being sentient.
Oh, I like the map shown at 1:05. Does anyone have a link?
I've just had a thought Tom Bombadil is light I'm saying this because how did the forest exist without a way to sustain itself no sun only starlight just a thought that came to me as i asked myself the question how are there trees there without light
I believe that Yavanna created the Ents to protect the trees. I wonder if Tom is a maiar
Dangerous, but not evil. Sooooo, chaotic neutral?
Perhaps there were a vast number of trees in there like Old Man Willow and Willow is just the one that the hobbits crossed paths with. The legacy of the High Hay and the danger it keeps in check seems to support the idea that there were many trees with grievances against walking folks.
I bet the Ent wife's are there to bad marry and pippin didn't tell Treebeard about the old Forrest.
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It's even cooler that Peter Jackson left the Old Forest, Old Man Willow, Tom B., Goldberry, etc. out of the movies. They're only for the true fans!
Where did tom get his clothes from. He must have gone through thousands of items during his life span ?
P;dman Willow could have been a juorn invaded by the corruption of Morgoth's universal taint od evil.
What's Goldberry's story?
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Tom was a lesser Valar.
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