Did Sonic The Hedgehog Copy Everything from Dragon Ball

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  • @Tyrecordslol
    @Tyrecordslol  Před 10 měsíci +222

    Hit That Bell 🔔‼️ to be the first to know when I upload

    • @balsingh6016
      @balsingh6016 Před 10 měsíci +7

      Bro is love with Sonic.💀

    • @callumcrane241
      @callumcrane241 Před 10 měsíci +3

      Sonic being stronger than Shadow is so not true. And Shadow calling Sonic the ultimate life form is a dubbing error. Plus, I think Silver is more inspired by Cable from MARVEL comics.
      Being inspired and being a ripoff are two completely different things.

    • @jackeyesteon9427
      @jackeyesteon9427 Před 10 měsíci

      Please pin Ajwithabang

    • @axiom6000
      @axiom6000 Před 10 měsíci +2

      @@callumcrane241Shadow literally always fights Sonic with a chaos emerald or something and yet he always loses or the winner is ambiguous. And Shadow in Sonic Battle literally admits Sonic is superior to him.

    • @Autumn_______
      @Autumn_______ Před 10 měsíci

      Already did 🗿

  • @HeavenlyDetective
    @HeavenlyDetective Před 10 měsíci +360

    Sonic and goku would be good friends tbh

    • @notfex1427
      @notfex1427 Před 10 měsíci +17

      We know

    • @SonicIsTheGoat14
      @SonicIsTheGoat14 Před 10 měsíci +18

      depends on which version of Sonic you're talking about

    • @RacismDestroyer
      @RacismDestroyer Před 10 měsíci +22

      They could save universes

    • @Neometalalpha
      @Neometalalpha Před 9 měsíci +15

      If there was enough Goku would love chili dogs and maybe even have a race to see who can eat the most

    • @AngelX303
      @AngelX303 Před 9 měsíci +4

      Do any y’all know the song to 6:39 ?

  • @flynnroberts7787
    @flynnroberts7787 Před 10 měsíci +439

    Ripoff or non-ripoff, it doesn't matter to me. I just wanted to enjoy myself with these two franchises.
    Edit: Wow, why is this so popular?!

  • @hyperbeam7498
    @hyperbeam7498 Před 10 měsíci +73

    Fiction was always inspired by other fiction, since the dawn of storywriting.
    Inspiration =/= ripoff
    If it was the case, then Goku would've ripped off Sun Wukong at the beginning of the Dragon Ball, and by the start of Z, he became a copy of Superman.

    • @toolazytorenamemyself
      @toolazytorenamemyself Před 10 měsíci +5

      Thanks for clarifying this that yes. Inspiration is different from ripping off.
      Inspiration is looking at something and taking ideas from it while not making it a 1 by 1 copy, more than likely will be different to it's original counterpart in some way.
      Ripping off is straight up copying someones homework on paper. In this case say if the chaos emeralds granted wishes instead of the form itself and you could argue the super form is a rip off however it also works differently from super saiyan and as of frontiers and a few other games has an entirely different moveset.

    • @cirnosnumberfan6449
      @cirnosnumberfan6449 Před 10 měsíci +7

      It certainly doesn't help that DBS Broly made his backstory EVEN MORE similar to Superman.

  • @LucasDanielCab5
    @LucasDanielCab5 Před 10 měsíci +160

    Just to spread somore awareness, Sonic's design mentioned in the video was the modified western design by Greg Martin. Sonic's original design was from Japan, and was changed during the localization process. It was the base for Toei Sonic in the Sonic CD intro. That said, Sonic CD would likely have been many Americans' introduction to the more standard Sonic design during that time period, so the confusion is completely understandable. All in all tho, sick vid! I actually never truly understood all the discussions, but this was informative!

    • @LucasDanielCab5
      @LucasDanielCab5 Před 10 měsíci

      @@jaydenweidum1453 6 initially, soon afterwards it's 7 tho

    • @rickastley5578
      @rickastley5578 Před 8 měsíci

      Does tbh mean the but hole

    • @bagochipz
      @bagochipz Před 7 měsíci

      Goku solos 🤓

    • @VicoWillStopYou
      @VicoWillStopYou Před 5 měsíci

      @@bagochipzYes he does. But how is that relevant to this comment?

    • @isaacm8353
      @isaacm8353 Před 4 měsíci

      ​@bagochipz No he doesn't, but okay. 😐

  • @axiom6000
    @axiom6000 Před 10 měsíci +480

    The answer is no. While there are similarities, like Silver, the Chaos Emeralds and Super Sonic. They aren’t direct copies. Even Shadow and Vegeta aren’t direct copies. If you look at Shadows backstory he has amnesia and is trying to get revenge by destroying the world. Shadow wants to destroy the world because he thinks that’s what Maria wants, Vegeta wanted to destroy earth because he wanted the Dragonballs. There’s no deep reason why Vegeta wanted to do this other then to defeat Frieza. We see at the end of SA2 Amy begs with Shadow to see the good in humanity and give them a chance, Shadow remembers what Maria ACTUALLY wanted and it was to protect humanity. Shadow goes super to help Sonic stop Space Colony Ark and dies in the process asking if Maria if he fulfilled her wishes. Vegeta is nothing like this, even when they are fighting Frieza, he wants revenge because Frieza killed the Saiyans. After when Frieza is dead we see Vegeta is still cold hearted and doesn’t really care for anyone, when we get to the Buu arc Vegeta grows and cares for his family and the earth but this is in an entirely different way then Shadow. Shadow went from a complete nihilist to a hero in the span of one game. This isn’t even mentioning Shadow the Hedgehog where we get the most insight on his character.

    • @Codyiguess
      @Codyiguess Před 10 měsíci +85

      Not to mention dragon ball isn’t even originally inspired. It pulls a LOT from journey to the west.

    • @axiom6000
      @axiom6000 Před 10 měsíci +18

      @@CodyiguessYeah

    • @chriss.249
      @chriss.249 Před 10 měsíci +41

      ​@@Codyiguess
      And Z pulls even further from American comics like DC and marvel.
      Cell is basically super skrull/super adaptoid, black arc was borderline superior spidey's arc, etc

    • @Codyiguess
      @Codyiguess Před 10 měsíci +26

      @@chriss.249 exactly! Which, not to say it’s not a good idea to be inspired! Cells a Greta character, but people shouldn’t act like dragon ball is some kind of original creative brainchild.

    • @chriss.249
      @chriss.249 Před 10 měsíci +20

      @@Codyiguess
      Yeah, I'm pretty sure toriyama got the idea of trunks from terminators John connor too. The androids as well.
      Yeah it's never a bad thing to be inspired by the works around u.

  • @mroversteer3739
    @mroversteer3739 Před 10 měsíci +127

    There’s a difference between paying homage to or being inspired by a piece of media, and ripping it off. People who say sonic is a rip off of dragon ball don’t understand what that means.

    • @SonicIsTheGoat14
      @SonicIsTheGoat14 Před 10 měsíci +28

      usually Dragon Ball fanboys or anybody who hates Sonic says it's a rip-off of Dragon Ball, but anybody who knows Dragon Ball knows that it is directly inspired by Journey of the West and comic book characters.

    • @m_c2022
      @m_c2022 Před 10 měsíci +11

      @@SonicIsTheGoat14 Yep and he even drew goku wearing the journey of the west outfit its even in Xenoverse 2
      Plus gokus hair is inspired by Astro boy and Mickey mouse but i might be reaching

    • @SonicIsTheGoat14
      @SonicIsTheGoat14 Před 10 měsíci +7

      @@m_c2022 I never knew that. Thanks for letting me know. That's funny how his hair is inspired by Mickey. 😅
      Edit: It's not

    • @Gamer-Wolf.
      @Gamer-Wolf. Před 10 měsíci +8

      @@m_c2022 Mickey mouse doesn't have any hair tho. And astro boy's hair looked nothing like Goku's.

    • @Gamer-Wolf.
      @Gamer-Wolf. Před 10 měsíci +5

      @@SonicIsTheGoat14 Actually Dragon ball took like not much insperation from comics. Cell and the entire cell and android arc was all original from Toriyama as he wanted to put sciencefiction in his creation and he tought about time travel making the entire arc inspired by nothing. Actually even the frieza saga was not really inspired by anything and more so wanting to further the story. The buu arc was inspired by a few things but not comics. Goku black was inspired by Goku Ginyu and wanting to make an arc out of it. T.O.P. Universe 6 tournament BOG and RF were also just all original. And same goes for Granola arc and Moro arc. So yeah DBZ was barely inspired by anything and super is pretty much original. And DB is inspired by journey to the west. Btw Sonic isn't a ripoff of dragon ball however it did take alot of insperation from dragon ball.

  • @GalacticSalsa77
    @GalacticSalsa77 Před 10 měsíci +104

    Sonic isnt a ripoff of holy but rather (with a quick google search) super sonic is a homage to dragon ball z. And some sonic games are inspired by holy but none are really ripoffs. HOPE THAT HELPS

    • @-ghostdeeri-
      @-ghostdeeri- Před 10 měsíci +16

      There are stupid dragon ball fans who say sonics a rip off but still not knowing what the definition of rip off means
      (Also side sentence) shadow and vegeta are not alike at all maybe they both are evil in the first introduction but they have different back story’s
      Leave my boy silver alone 😭

    • @SonicIsTheGoat14
      @SonicIsTheGoat14 Před 10 měsíci +3

      why does Tyrecordslol always gotta disrespect Silver? the fact that he says Silver "copied" Future Trunks is disrespectful because Trunks himself is inspired by John Conner from Terminator and Cable from Marvel.
      And Sonic and Shadow aren't even that similar to Goku and Vegeta.

    • @RiasGremoryS54
      @RiasGremoryS54 Před 10 měsíci +5

      @@SonicIsTheGoat14 Just accept the fact, Shadow and Sonic are very similar to Goku and Vegeta. Only Sonic fanboys can't stand the FACT that Sonic is HEAVILY inspired by Dragon Ball.

    • @SonicIsTheGoat14
      @SonicIsTheGoat14 Před 10 měsíci +4

      @@RiasGremoryS54 I'm not a Sonic fanboy. maybe you DBZ fanboys can't stand the fact that DBZ characters are mere rip-offs of comic book characters and they get stomped by them too.
      If anything, it really depends on which versions of Sonic and Shadow you're talking about, only their anime or canon versions are similar to Goku and Vegeta, but they are not inspired by them.

    • @GalacticSalsa77
      @GalacticSalsa77 Před 10 měsíci +4

      @@RiasGremoryS54 You are correct sonic is inspired by goku BUT They didn’t steal anything

  • @therobloxianhog
    @therobloxianhog Před 10 měsíci +66

    For me, Silver is similar to Trunks but isn't much of an exact copy or inspiration.
    1. Silver came back to the past timeline because the antagonist of 06 (Mephiles) told him to do so. Trunks however just decided to do that. Another massive difference is that Silver's purpose during 06 was to kill Sonic, the protagonist, but Trunks went to the past to help Goku, who is also a protagonist.
    2. Trunks isn't seen mostly in the present timeline as he is supposed to belong in the future otherwise he could potentially ruin the whole db timeline. Except for Silver, he is always present in the present timeline ever since 06 and it doesn't seem to be messing up Sonic's timeline at all.
    3. Number 3 is a pretty obvious one. Silver can use telekinesis and can glide in the air at times. Trunks uses his sword and flies around most of the time. This is a big difference that many leave out when talking about this. Nobody sees Silver with a sword and neither does anyone see Trunks move objects with the power of his hand.

    • @dakotatichelio273
      @dakotatichelio273 Před 10 měsíci +13

      Not to mention the difference in personality.

    • @walkerzykeise_646
      @walkerzykeise_646 Před 10 měsíci +2

      They sated that sliver is from trunks

    • @dakotatichelio273
      @dakotatichelio273 Před 10 měsíci +11

      @@walkerzykeise_646 yeah they used trunks as inspiration for Sliver that doesn’t mean they’re exactly the same

    • @user-tn2uf4ow4f
      @user-tn2uf4ow4f Před 9 měsíci +3

      You're right but I wanted to mention a point in the case where Silver's purpose was to kill Sonic (*whom he thought was Iblis) I think it's similar to how Trunks went to the past in Dragon ball super and woke up and saw Goku and tried to kill him thinking it was Black Goku, yeah the situations aren't the same but it's similar to how both were tricked to thinking other people were their enemies

    • @therobloxianhog
      @therobloxianhog Před 9 měsíci +6

      @@user-tn2uf4ow4f i can see that but a major difference is that Silver got tricked by a person to kill Sonic, whilst Trunks had his mind fool him into thinking that Goku was Goku Black since they are similar.

  • @mikeyarts5342
    @mikeyarts5342 Před 10 měsíci +41

    I'm pretty sure the 7 dragon balls can only summon a dragon, and the 7 chaos emeralds can give power by many different means including the super forms

    • @Magic_Dragon1
      @Magic_Dragon1 Před 10 měsíci +12

      Yeah, and people think that hyper sonic is copy of ultra instinct, even though it was released years later than hyper sonic

    • @bigchoppa1897
      @bigchoppa1897 Před 10 měsíci +2

      a dragon that can give you power and way more stuff then the chaos emeralds and belive it or not super dragons can just give you universe eleminating powers and also you can basically wish for chaos emeralds and chaos powers

    • @Magic_Dragon1
      @Magic_Dragon1 Před 10 měsíci +3

      @@bigchoppa1897 I don't think that you can wish super shenron for items from whole different series

    • @BlueNinja-pw1yt
      @BlueNinja-pw1yt Před 8 měsíci

      Bruh Chaos diamonds and Dragonballs have nothing in common plus The Chaos diamonds are way more similar to the Infinity Stones from The Marvel cinematic universe franchise than the Dragonballs

    • @exerols3airmodder
      @exerols3airmodder Před 8 měsíci

      @@BlueNinja-pw1ytsee? “Chaos diamonds” it’s called the chaos emeralds , and no, sega came up with this idea and no, sega did not copy and paste!!!

  • @Qrangg
    @Qrangg Před 10 měsíci +36

    After hearing his other arguments on why sega didnt copy dragon ball, I was ready to be disproven and told that silver wasn't a copy of trunks...only to hear that he argreed with me and I honestly felt so dumbfounded lol

    • @lord-sama8562
      @lord-sama8562 Před 10 měsíci +4

      But he isn’t a copy 💀

    • @ILikeSoda229
      @ILikeSoda229 Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@lord-sama8562eh

    • @chinlota682
      @chinlota682 Před 10 měsíci +2

      ​@@lord-sama8562 in the creation of silver There was a note that basically said "just think trunks from dragon ball" so nah he kinda is

    • @SonicIsTheGoat14
      @SonicIsTheGoat14 Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@chinlota682 Silver is clearly inspired by Future Trunks, he's not a rip-off. In other words, that like saying Future Trunks is a copy of Cable because he is inspired by him.

    • @chinlota682
      @chinlota682 Před 10 měsíci +2

      @@SonicIsTheGoat14 I'm just quoting what was on the creation paper

  • @ProjectSorolf
    @ProjectSorolf Před 10 měsíci +52

    I said it before, and I'll say it again. The Sonic franchise does have a few inspirations from Dragon Ball, and denying that is just being in denial. BUT, there's exist a huge amount of differences to the point the similarities are pretty far and in-between.
    Silver was inspired by Trunks. I'm pretty sure there's even an official source for that. However, the two characters are drastically different.
    Trunks is basically just a regular saiyan. He's from the future, but he's no different than say Goku and Vegeta...just weaker. He's experienced and confident when we first see him. He knows what he needs to do, and he does it...when others don't get in his way.
    Silver is a hedgehog, but he's completely different from Sonic and Shadow. He doesn't even share their moves, instead having his own unique fighting style and set of abilities.
    Silver is a naive boy who got nervous when Blaze wasn't around the first time they got separated. He's lost, unlike Trunks, he didn't go back to save the hero. He got manipulated and went back to kill him.
    The two only share the "destroyed future from a threat and goes back in time to stop it". But their deeper purpose, personalities, comparison with their peers, and so forth are just too different to call Silver a clone.

    • @NinjaGamerGirl2023
      @NinjaGamerGirl2023 Před 10 měsíci +5

      Agree.

    • @yesser.da.wae.2033
      @yesser.da.wae.2033 Před 10 měsíci +8

      one of the best argumentations about Silver and Trunks i've ever seen

    • @AndreLuiz-dz6ps
      @AndreLuiz-dz6ps Před 10 měsíci +2

      Trunks has his own set of Abilities and his own fighting style.

    • @ProjectSorolf
      @ProjectSorolf Před 10 měsíci +2

      @AndreLuiz-dz6ps
      What abilities does Trunks have? Looking through the entirety of Z and Super, he's barely any different from Goku and Vegeta. Sometimes, he uses his sword, I guess? But his core fighting method is pretty much 1:1 with the other saiyans. Ki blasts and physical attacks with no real unique gimmick.

    • @crimsonzone8984
      @crimsonzone8984 Před 10 měsíci

      Another big difference between silver and trunks is how they're usually presented.
      in vs shows like death battle, you guys know the xeno vs archie one? Well, it's basically a fight between strongest offense vs strongest defense. Trunks has the upper hand when he's up close. Same with Silver when at a distance. Ofcourse, silver can slip pass trunks while trunks can power through. Trunks has fighting edge, while Silver has the environment.
      And that's kind of what dragon ball and sonic the hedgehog is all about. One franchise is good for the superpowered fights and beat 'em ups, while the other is good for using environment and traversal.
      It's probably why don't see much strength feats coming from knuckles when compared to sonic's speed feats. B'cuz it ain't about the beat' em ups like dragon ball. (Another reason is that these characters are not handled pretty well in the series.) Though, I can't say the same about frontiers and idw.

  • @IYEDREEBOI
    @IYEDREEBOI Před 10 měsíci +44

    Nah it’s not a copy of dbz because dbz fans say that hyper sonic is a copy of mui but actually hyper sonic came out way before dbs came out

    • @GreenEyedPsycho
      @GreenEyedPsycho Před 10 měsíci +4

      And even then it hasn’t even been used officially for more than a decade

    • @SonicIsTheGoat14
      @SonicIsTheGoat14 Před 10 měsíci +5

      if anything, Super Sonic came out only a year after Super Saiyan was introduced. but MUI came out in 2018, while Hyper Sonic only appeared in one game (S3&K) that was made in 1994 about a month before Super Saiyan 3 was introduced.

    • @IYEDREEBOI
      @IYEDREEBOI Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@SonicIsTheGoat14 I know that

    • @IYEDREEBOI
      @IYEDREEBOI Před 10 měsíci +2

      @@GreenEyedPsycho bruh

    • @DavettaHenderson
      @DavettaHenderson Před 10 měsíci +1

      But it still came first

  • @Robert-ux9tf
    @Robert-ux9tf Před 10 měsíci +30

    No it isn’t a ripoff. there are some similarities between the two, but they can be seen as homages. Saying that sonic is a ripoff is saying that Steven universe is a ripoff too. No hate tho

    • @-ghostdeeri-
      @-ghostdeeri- Před 10 měsíci +1

      Also hyper sonic came out wayyy before ultra instinct

    • @alibeknorbekov5963
      @alibeknorbekov5963 Před 10 měsíci +3

      ​@@-ghostdeeri-rainbow form
      And White haired Form/state
      Early design of Super saiyan Was White haired with Red eyes
      Which came back as Best form of Gohan
      So Super saiyan was White way before Ultra instinct and Beast
      But just didn't appeared in manga and Anime

    • @animeboy200p2
      @animeboy200p2 Před 7 měsíci

      @alibeknorbekov5963 yeah but super sonic is colorful so it nothing like ssj or ultra instinct

    • @alibeknorbekov5963
      @alibeknorbekov5963 Před 7 měsíci

      @@animeboy200p2 super sonic is Colorful?
      Its Yellow
      Hyper form is Colorful and Rainbow
      Super Sonic is Based on Super Saiyan
      Creator of sonic(i forgot his name) and Akira Toriyama are Friends so you can make simple conclusion that some things are inspired by dragon ball
      Cuz
      Its Transformation
      Its Yellow
      And It gives you Durability and Speed boost
      7 Chaos emeralds are also Little bit inspired by 7 Dragon Balls
      There's is Similarities

    • @animeboy200p2
      @animeboy200p2 Před 7 měsíci

      @alibeknorbekov5963 I meant to say hyper sonic because you said hyper sonic kinda rip off the original super saiyan color so clam down ir isn't that big of a deal and chaos emerald aren't inspired by dragon ball there nothing alike only super sonic is inspired nothing else

  • @xfrianimations1354
    @xfrianimations1354 Před 10 měsíci +51

    The Chaos Emeralds were always meant to be a collectable power up. Sure Super Sonic is similar to Super Saiyan, but there's also the fact sonic NEEDS the chaos emeralds to do that transformation. Really the only similarity is that sonic turns yellow and his hair sicks up, but that being said, there are lots of characters that have their hair start to float when they power up due to their "aura". For some reason, in dragon ball I never feel like his hair is actually flying up, more like it just points up for some reason, because his hair never really has to much physics, but Sonic's quills do.

    • @Magic_Dragon1
      @Magic_Dragon1 Před 10 měsíci +3

      Fr

    • @Salheeeel
      @Salheeeel Před 10 měsíci +6

      i like more of the concept of it being a useful form and u actually need it as a last resort unlike super saiyan which became just overused

    • @Magic_Dragon1
      @Magic_Dragon1 Před 10 měsíci +2

      @@Salheeeel yeah

    • @SonicIsTheGoat14
      @SonicIsTheGoat14 Před 10 měsíci +9

      exactly. whenever somebody tries to explain why Sonic copied DBZ, they always say "Super Sonic ripped-off Super Sayian because he's yellow". 😑That doesn't mean it's a copy, and there's nothing similar to either transformation besides the color and Goku's hair/Sonic's quills sticking up.

    • @exethehedgehog7678
      @exethehedgehog7678 Před 10 měsíci +6

      @@SonicIsTheGoat14exactly plus if you look through the years the super syain started off more white then yellow it only after a couple of years that it changed to yellow

  • @Dawgidk472
    @Dawgidk472 Před 10 měsíci +14

    Crazy how people still talking about this😭😭

    • @dee_torch5
      @dee_torch5 Před 10 měsíci +2

      Fr

    • @CosmicManIta
      @CosmicManIta Před 10 měsíci

      True

    • @animeboy200p2
      @animeboy200p2 Před 7 měsíci +2

      Because dragon
      ball fans won't get over it

    • @kyngkena63
      @kyngkena63 Před 4 měsíci

      @@animeboy200p2you guys keep talking about toxic db fans but I don’t see them

    • @animeboy200p2
      @animeboy200p2 Před 4 měsíci

      @@kyngkena63 because they in the bottom section of the comment

  • @android21evil19
    @android21evil19 Před 10 měsíci +12

    Out of the 6 of them, Future Trunks and Silver were always my favorites.

  • @chriss.249
    @chriss.249 Před 10 měsíci +9

    Whenever i hear ppl make the argument sonic copied dragonball, i fire back with dbz and dbs copying from Marvel/dc comics with their logic, and it truggers them
    At some point we are going to run into similarities with things, its not a bad thing, but claiming its a rip off or copy? Thats no good

    • @SonicIsTheGoat14
      @SonicIsTheGoat14 Před 10 měsíci +6

      Dragon Ball also copied more things from Sonic than Sonic did to Dragon Ball. whenever somebody says "Sonic copied Dragon Ball", it's always either people who hate Sonic or Dragon Ball fanboys.
      if that's the case, Goku is a rip-off of Superman, Vegeta is a rip-off of Thor, Gohan is a rip-off of Superboy, Piccolo is a rip-off of Martian Manhunter. And I can keep going on, but I don't want to offend anybody who likes these characters because they're not copies.

    • @Magic_Dragon1
      @Magic_Dragon1 Před 10 měsíci +4

      Yeah, people say that hyper form was copied from ultra instinct while hyper form was released in sonic 3 that was released in 1993 or 1994,and ui was released years later

    • @chriss.249
      @chriss.249 Před 10 měsíci +3

      @@SonicIsTheGoat14
      I'd say their most lucrative character(Broly) is heavily based off the hulk. With Z broly being the interpretation of what he is while Super broly hits closer to what hulk actually is.
      Also, I see connections between frieza and mongol from DC, goku black and doc ock, dr gero and dr doom, morro and galactus/morlun/solus, jiren and a certain DC character(forget their name but masakoX makes a good video on it), dyspo and the flash/sonic, hirudagarn and Godzilla, etc.
      Yeah its mostly the sonic haters/db meatriders who say they copied dragonball.
      I say Lgeta is more like zod, cell is a copy of the super adaptoid/super skrull/doomsday, the list goes on fr

    • @chriss.249
      @chriss.249 Před 10 měsíci +2

      @@Magic_Dragon1
      I have no idea how that works lol
      I also feel mui is similar to Megaman battle networks "Hub full synchro" form. A transformation that boosts Megamans powers by insane levels, covering him in pure light(like how mui was when it 1st appeared against jiren) at the cost of his stamina. He even does the hakai 1st.
      There's also a navi in the game called "Bass.exe", who shakes the cyber world with his presence like jiren and ui goku does.
      When I think about it, Sonic/marvel kinda did infinite zamasu 1st, as Solaris was going to consume all of time and space, the eggmen in sonic rush were going to erase sonic and blaze's dimensions and remake them as they wanted with the jeweled scepter, and thanos became the universe after absorbing the astral regulator. He even becomes an amalgamation of higher level beings in an earlier comic. A fusion of eternity, galactus, death, tribunal, etc.

    • @Magic_Dragon1
      @Magic_Dragon1 Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@chriss.249 hm, yeah megaman's form and ui fr have almost same concept, the only difference is ui let you move without thinking

  • @Scarlet_manger
    @Scarlet_manger Před 10 měsíci +25

    I like how there is 7 chaos emeralds and there is 7 dragon balls 😂

    • @nahummy
      @nahummy Před 10 měsíci +1

      And 7 infinity stones

    • @jerma420
      @jerma420 Před 10 měsíci

      ​@@nahummythere are 6

    • @Sonicfan2592
      @Sonicfan2592 Před 10 měsíci +2

      Umm actually in Sonic 1 there was 6 chaos emeralds instead of 7 🤓

    • @nahummy
      @nahummy Před 10 měsíci +2

      @@jerma420 look at comics

    • @jerma420
      @jerma420 Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@nahummy ok

  • @CatfishMys
    @CatfishMys Před 10 měsíci +11

    Sonic takes inspiration from just about everything. Shadow is an inspiration of Bass. Silver is Future Trunks. The Death Egg is inspired by the Death Star from Star Wars. Tails' flying ability is taken from Goku's ability to fly by using his tail during the 21st budokai tenkaichi. Sonic's super form is an inspiration of SSJ. The 7 chaos emeralds are just the 7 dragon balls with a different concept. Silver Sonic is a gag of mecha godzilla. I feel like many other characters like knuckles, rouge, amy, and tails are inspired by dragon ball characters and various other anime characters out there.

    • @ElliottWilbur
      @ElliottWilbur Před 10 měsíci +4

      Why I see the similarities between the dragon balls and the Chaos Emeralds I feel like they're more like the Infinity Stones from Marvel you know multiple gems different colors all have their own different powers and when you put them all together you achieve great power

    • @CatfishMys
      @CatfishMys Před 10 měsíci +3

      @@ElliottWilbur I mean, they went from 6 to 7.
      (The special stages in Sonic 3 & Knuckles are meant to be an inspiration of king kai's planet, apparently.)
      *Yuji Naka was a huge Dragon Ball fan*

    • @biggreen276
      @biggreen276 Před 10 měsíci +2

      super sonic was actually in concept during 1990, a full year before the official ssj transformation, it just wasn't able to be in the game due to time crunch

    • @CatfishMys
      @CatfishMys Před 10 měsíci

      @@biggreen276 and how? super sonic shows clear inspiration to ssj goku. where's your proof of this anyway?

    • @biggreen276
      @biggreen276 Před 10 měsíci +4

      @@CatfishMys guidebooks, want me to send a link of a pic

  • @firephoenixx8815
    @firephoenixx8815 Před 10 měsíci +12

    This crossed my mind but I think that one's just more " family friendly "

  • @shiroiku9314
    @shiroiku9314 Před 10 měsíci +11

    I'm pretty sure the sonic design from sonic underground and all those american sonic cartoons are not the original design. His design in Japan was always the same from Sonic CD since the first sonic game, it was only changed over seas.

    • @SonicIsTheGoat14
      @SonicIsTheGoat14 Před 10 měsíci

      to clarify, Jaleel White voiced acted as Sonic the Hedgehog in three animated series from the 1990s: Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog, Sonic the Hedgehog, and Sonic Underground.

    • @shiroiku9314
      @shiroiku9314 Před 10 měsíci

      @@SonicIsTheGoat14 Idk what you mean, since I never mentioned the voice actors. So what exactly are you clarifying?

    • @SonicIsTheGoat14
      @SonicIsTheGoat14 Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@shiroiku9314 my bad. you mentioned the american sonic cartoons, those cartoons of Sonic had the same voice actor who voiced Sonic. And in the encyclo-speed-ia, it mentioned SATAM or AOSTH.
      Plus, those versions of Sonic are basically Classic Sonic, they have a similar design to the 2D games.
      Sorry that I got you confused.

  • @porobotboyxxx
    @porobotboyxxx Před 10 měsíci +5

    0:10-0:15
    *Powerpuff Girls:* Is that so?🤨
    *Ed, Edd n Eddy:* You sure about that?🤔
    *Animaniacs:* Sounds like propaganda.🧐
    *DC Trinity:* Seems like a theory to us.😐
    *Alvin & the Chipmunks:* May need to check over that comment more than once there, buddy.🤥

  • @xavierrivera3407
    @xavierrivera3407 Před 10 měsíci +9

    Short answer no.
    The chaos emeralds, and super sonic while inspired and are a direct homage to super sayain and the seven dragon balls are the only similarities these two franchises really have outside of fighting literal gods.
    They have no real similarities out side of that, with maybe the adception of Siliver and Trunks, but even than dragon ball didn’t create the trop of a hero going back in time to save their future.

  • @tatsuyasoda8147
    @tatsuyasoda8147 Před 10 měsíci +20

    The "Chaos Emeralds are knock-offs of the Dragon Balls" argument irks me more than any other. Just because there are multiple versions of them in groups of 7 doesn't mean the chaos emeralds are knockoffs. They are entirely different. The Chaos Emeralds are a power source, and The Dragon Balls are used to summon Shenron. The chaos emeralds down have any (known) consequences to spamming them, and the Dragon Balls can be corrupted if overused. Also, way too many 90's games have objects in groups of 7, so singling out the emeralds is stupid.

    • @SonicIsTheGoat14
      @SonicIsTheGoat14 Před 10 měsíci +5

      tbh, I don't see how the Chaos Emeralds are anything similar to the Dragon Balls besides there are seven of them. the Chaos Emeralds are more like the Infinite Stones than the Dragon Balls. the Dragon Balls can only summon Shenron and he grants wishes. but the similarities between the Infinity Stones and the Chaos Emeralds are that they grant you nigh-omnipotent levels of power and hax like reality warping and space-time manipulation.

    • @christopherford39
      @christopherford39 Před 10 měsíci +1

      ​@@SonicIsTheGoat14don't forget the fact that you need all 7 dragon balls for them to work while the same doesn't apply to the chaos emeralds

    • @SonicIsTheGoat14
      @SonicIsTheGoat14 Před 10 měsíci +2

      @@christopherford39 yeah, and they can be used to unlock untapped potential and a transformation, just like Piccolo wished to unlock his true potential but also got a transformation.

    • @TheAmazingAnimator
      @TheAmazingAnimator Před 10 měsíci +1

      And I'm pretty sure the chaos emeralds were first correct me if I'm wrong

    • @SonicIsTheGoat14
      @SonicIsTheGoat14 Před 10 měsíci

      @@TheAmazingAnimator it's the other way around

  • @quandaledingleofficial6
    @quandaledingleofficial6 Před 10 měsíci +7

    Super sonic and the 7 emeralds were supposed to be a gag-thing, silver sonic from sonic 2 was litterally mecha Godzilla, sonic used to be a gag character.

  • @loganlee8844
    @loganlee8844 Před 10 měsíci +20

    While they aren't exact copies of each other, i feel that both Sonic and Dragonball as a franchise share an unspoken mutual inspiration from each other throughout the years and could possibly still do to this day.

  • @CHECKMYDESCFORmaybeFREEROBUX
    @CHECKMYDESCFORmaybeFREEROBUX Před 6 měsíci +3

    Sonic not only "copied" Dragon Ball, the creator admitted that the Sonic games were inspired by Mario Bros Speedruns. He used to speedrun Mario Bros himself so he wanted to create a fast character who is fast all the time, even if you're not speedrunning.

  • @Cyro_Snow
    @Cyro_Snow Před 10 měsíci +4

    “First of all, I am vegeta. Second all, your not vegeta, third of all, you wanna be vegeta but you can’t be vegeta because im vegeta”

  • @ataladin87
    @ataladin87 Před 10 měsíci +5

    Dragon Ball super copied Sonic 06.
    Specifically the goku black arc.

    • @Diogo85
      @Diogo85 Před 10 měsíci

      Sonic 06 was probably inspired by the movie Dragon Ball Z: Wrath of the Dragon.

    • @SonicIsTheGoat14
      @SonicIsTheGoat14 Před 10 měsíci

      @@Diogo85 nothing I can think of from Sonic 06 is the same as that movie tbh

  • @thomasverslycken2563
    @thomasverslycken2563 Před 10 měsíci +4

    1:29 fun fact in sonic 3 & knuckles super sonic had his eyes be a similar shade of green & atleast 1 of the prototype design for super saiyan had red eyes

  • @NinjaGamerGirl2023
    @NinjaGamerGirl2023 Před 10 měsíci +8

    No doubt inspired, not a rip off.
    Other people are already giving reasons, and I agree with them.
    The Mewtwo thing was interesting.

  • @yellowisafk7634
    @yellowisafk7634 Před 10 měsíci +4

    this is actually a great video, I wouldn’t mind more of these deep dive / informational videos more in depth compared to your regular TikTok videos. keep up the great work Tyre! 💯

  • @aarushbhadwaj-gs7kd
    @aarushbhadwaj-gs7kd Před 10 měsíci +5

    Since the Sonic O6 game Shadow was a completely different person. I have proof :
    In Sonic Adventure (2001) final boss, Shadow had started respecting Sonic and even called him the ultimate lifeform. After 2006 Shadow appeared less in the games and mainly as a boss fight sometimes. And in his short appearances he used to call Sonic weak and boosted himself about being the ultimate life form. Like what happened to him saying to Sonic that he is the must be the ultimate life form. (6:04).

  • @daetomrossington3623
    @daetomrossington3623 Před 10 měsíci +5

    The Saiyans do have similarities with the hedgehogs.. although, their intent comes in different ways. We compare them in our childhood and we always thought that if they crossed paths, they’d make good teams upon their instinct.

  • @phorchybug3286
    @phorchybug3286 Před 10 měsíci +5

    Sonic shares inspiration but I wouldn't say he reaches rip off material.

  • @DrZomboss01
    @DrZomboss01 Před 10 měsíci +11

    This video truly drives my hype for Sonic Superstars even more!

  • @WAVESVSV
    @WAVESVSV Před 10 měsíci +6

    Why do people even care about all of this? Both did good job on their franchises, so why do we care about all of that?

    • @SonicIsTheGoat14
      @SonicIsTheGoat14 Před 10 měsíci +2

      because people still complain about this still to this day.

    • @dee_torch5
      @dee_torch5 Před 10 měsíci +3

      ​@@SonicIsTheGoat14bro those people who say sonic is a copy of dragon ball must not be sonic fans 💀

    • @SonicIsTheGoat14
      @SonicIsTheGoat14 Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@dee_torch5 they aren't and those people aren't the first Sonic haters I talked to.

    • @dee_torch5
      @dee_torch5 Před 10 měsíci +3

      @@SonicIsTheGoat14 oh ok

  • @crimsongod4634
    @crimsongod4634 Před 10 měsíci +5

    Crazy how the future trunks saga has so many similarities to sonic 06

    • @aegislashkoW
      @aegislashkoW Před 10 měsíci +3

      no😭crying rn
      Trunks is basically just a regular saiyan. He's from the future, but he's no different than say Goku and Vegeta...just weaker. He's experienced and confident when we first see him. He knows what he needs to do, and he does it...when others don't get in his way.
      Silver is a hedgehog, but he's completely different from Sonic and Shadow. He doesn't even share their moves, instead having his own unique fighting style and set of abilities.
      Silver is a naive boy who got nervous when Blaze wasn't around the first time they got separated. He's lost, unlike Trunks, he didn't go back to save the hero. He got manipulated and went back to kill him.
      The two only share the "destroyed future from a threat and goes back in time to stop it". But their deeper purpose, personalities, comparison with their peers, and so forth are just too different to call Silver a clone.

  • @HyperMurder
    @HyperMurder Před 10 měsíci +4

    Shadow isn't vegeta because shadow isn't prideful he is trying to protect earth unlike vegeta who wants to beat goku. And sonic is chill guy that wants to have peace while goku is a fighter who wants to get stronger and surpass his limits.

    • @SonicIsTheGoat14
      @SonicIsTheGoat14 Před 10 měsíci +1

      facts. also for people who say Shadow is Mewtwo, look up Adam Warlock from Marvel. 😂 Shadow is basically him, Mewtwo is Tetsuo Shima from Akira. Goku and Vegeta are basically the japanese Superman and Thor.

    • @BlueNinja-pw1yt
      @BlueNinja-pw1yt Před 8 měsíci +1

      Plus there's no Kamehameha and no fusion transformation and Sonic doesn't have a child or a wife like Goku

  • @Velocity_YT
    @Velocity_YT Před 10 měsíci +8

    To be fair...Both of them inspired each other. Thats right Dragon ball! I know what you did Akira Toriyama...I'm on to you...🤨

    • @DreaguiVII
      @DreaguiVII Před 10 měsíci

      Yeah that's why super sayain blue exist

    • @Velocity_YT
      @Velocity_YT Před 10 měsíci +2

      @@DreaguiVII I was mainly referring to MUI 😅
      Dragon ball fans love to say that Dragon ball did it first 😅

    • @Velocity_YT
      @Velocity_YT Před 10 měsíci

      @@DragonBallGOAT true...but most Dragon ball fans believe that everything Dragon ball did, they did it first. I won't deny that Super Saiyan came first though.

    • @DreaguiVII
      @DreaguiVII Před 10 měsíci

      @@Velocity_YT oh didn't know 😅

    • @Teddy44471
      @Teddy44471 Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@Velocity_YTpeople say mui is like hyper or something?

  • @SonicIsTheGoat14
    @SonicIsTheGoat14 Před 10 měsíci +7

    Sonic did NOT copy Dragon Ball! The only thing similar about the two series are the characters. Dragon Ball is heavily inspired by Sun Wukong and Superman. Sonic was created because Sega wanted to rival Nintendo’s mascot (Mario), but Sonic actually has way more connections to Wally West. Shadow is very similar to Mewtwo, but he actually has more connections to Adam Warlock, and Knuckles has some connections to Juggernaut.
    Goku and Sonic are friendly and prideful, but Goku is naive and idiotic, while Sonic is adventurous or egotistical depending on which version of Sonic it is. Vegeta is prideful and egotistical but never wins, while Shadow is edgy and stubborn but he sometimes wins.
    Some characters from DBS are similar to other Sonic characters, and even DC and Marvel. For example, the Goku Black Arc is similar to Sonic 06 because of the story, the characters (Goku Black and Zamasu are similar to Mephiles and Iblis), and how bad the writing was.

    • @porobotboyxxx
      @porobotboyxxx Před 10 měsíci +3

      Sonic and Goku’s personalities are definitely during but similar in a few instances. But Sonic possesses more common sense than Goku.
      Also the 7 Chaos Emeralds are a node to the 7 Dragonballs. The Super Emeralds are a better version of the Chaos Emeralds as the Namekian Dragonballs are superior to the Earth’s Dragonballs. Super Sonic was definitely inspired by Super Saiyan. Both have genius friends with Tails and Bulma. Both have friends and former rivals that are connected with the Dragonballs/Chaos Emeralds with Piccolo and Knuckles. Plus both Goku and Sonic are both similar and partially inspired by Superman.

    • @SonicIsTheGoat14
      @SonicIsTheGoat14 Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@porobotboyxxx the only thing I disagree agree with is Sonic beings inspired by Superman. I can see a few connections for both, but they're not similar. Sonic is often compared to Goku, but Goku has more connections to Superman than Sonic.
      And I personally believe that Sally Acorn is more like Bulma than Tails is. Goku and Sonic have two best friends (Krillin and Tails) who they have grown up with and fought. Both also have rivals who were enemies at first, but then became frenemies (Vegeta and Shadow). Both also have time-traveler friends who come from the future (Future Trunks and Silver) and they are enemies who try conquer Earth no matter how many times they lose to the main protagonist (Frieza and Dr. Eggman).

    • @porobotboyxxx
      @porobotboyxxx Před 10 měsíci +2

      @@SonicIsTheGoat14 Sally and Bulma aren’t similar except them being female and Sally actually dates Sonic while Goku and Bulma are definitely friends. Also Sonic and Superman are defined as a symbol of hope in their universes, they’re both extremely fast, plus Sonic acquired the capability of defeating main threat serious foes by himself at times like Superman, which Goku lacks.

    • @SonicIsTheGoat14
      @SonicIsTheGoat14 Před 10 měsíci

      @@porobotboyxxx Both are pure-hearted aliens from another world (Krypton and Mobius) that are leaders of a group/team (the Freedom Fighters and the Justice League). Both are enemies of bald mad scientists that use crystalline material that originates from their home world (green Kryptonite and the Chaos Emeralds) to empower themselves or their machines. there might be a bit more similarities.

    • @BlueNinja-pw1yt
      @BlueNinja-pw1yt Před 8 měsíci +1

      In my opinion Sonic is more of a copy of MegaMan than Dragonball Z

  • @TheHirohikoAraki
    @TheHirohikoAraki Před 10 měsíci +2

    Everyone: Sonic vs Dragon Ball
    Also everyone: Sonic 🤝 Dragonball

  • @wisdomforest_
    @wisdomforest_ Před 10 měsíci +4

    brotha rlly explained how shadow rlly is and should be portrayed. nowadays they always characterize shadow as an angry emo version of sonic with chaos powers, which he isnt.

  • @trisxart2393
    @trisxart2393 Před 10 měsíci +4

    I swear...hes like the most straight to the point, factually correct debater out there.

  • @mokuthesaiyan5246
    @mokuthesaiyan5246 Před 10 měsíci +4

    I'm a fan of both of them and I say that it wasn't copied it was inspiration. I've played and watched both of them and there is some similarities yes, but it's not the exact same.

  • @hamzamohamed6774
    @hamzamohamed6774 Před 9 měsíci +3

    It's obvious that the creator of sonic was just a big fan of dragon ball

  • @Neuvi2206
    @Neuvi2206 Před 10 měsíci +7

    This has crossed my mind like 1000000000000 times!!

  • @thatoneguy4201
    @thatoneguy4201 Před 10 měsíci +2

    Honestly, it’s surprising how Sonic 06, out of all games has a better story then other 3D sonic games. Even if it has the worse gameplay, the story brings it up by a long shot. The only thing I didn’t like was **Sonic kissing Elise.** yea rule 34 got a kick out of that one

    • @animegamefan8678
      @animegamefan8678 Před 10 měsíci +2

      Sonic 06 was supposed to be THE Sonic game, it was highly ambitious. The game would've been awesome if it wasn't rushed. Thinking about it, the game only has 2 problems:
      Elise
      And the fact that it is unpolished and glitchy.

    • @thatoneguy4201
      @thatoneguy4201 Před 10 měsíci

      @@animegamefan8678 fr

  • @tttqc4983
    @tttqc4983 Před 10 měsíci +3

    Sonic always looked like that in japan this was his American art work they changed to make it more appealing to Americans as they put it

    • @sboinkthelegday3892
      @sboinkthelegday3892 Před 10 měsíci

      That's so insane to me, to this day I don't see the, well I recognize the difference, but how is it BETTER? OR worse? Well, the quill length nerds must feel validated when even official marketing was like "nope, this one won't do, we have to change it". There must have been a spot missing in the tax deduction form, for character design, 1 pcs.

  • @Sonamous47
    @Sonamous47 Před 10 měsíci +4

    I think with Silver and Trunks I think they both inspire each other. In silver’s case in 06 it was stated before the game came out that Silver was inspired by trunks in DBZ and his back story in a way. But in the Goku Black Arc there are a lot of similarities to 06 and silvers story being one of them like how it takes place in a dystopian future, Goku Black being like the Iblis in that story, Mai being Blaze and etc.

  • @X3m.Gaming
    @X3m.Gaming Před 10 měsíci +5

    theres nothing wrong with taking something that you like or think was cool from other series and putting in your own. this is basically what everyone does. just take things that you like and keep them.

  • @boroooooooooo7443
    @boroooooooooo7443 Před 10 měsíci +3

    Sonic has a badass appearance.... His hairstyle I mean his spike hair is similar to Goku.

  • @Hiperblade1999
    @Hiperblade1999 Před 10 měsíci +3

    I really wish this comparison died years ago

  • @Dane_the_hedgehog
    @Dane_the_hedgehog Před 10 měsíci +3

    They ofc were inspired, SEGA is a friendly community that makes or tries to make their fans happy.

  • @dioborando8818
    @dioborando8818 Před 10 měsíci +3

    He ain't a rip off even tho some people will stick to saying it is
    Sonic (archie) would still body the shit out of goku

  • @yamaspajamaz7718
    @yamaspajamaz7718 Před 10 měsíci +5

    trust me alot of things copied DBZ

    • @Diogo85
      @Diogo85 Před 10 měsíci +1

      Like what?

    • @KugoVR
      @KugoVR Před 10 měsíci

      name

    • @yamaspajamaz7718
      @yamaspajamaz7718 Před 10 měsíci

      @@KugoVR Naruto, One Piece, Bleach, Fairy Tail, and even Hunter x Hunter.

    • @yamaspajamaz7718
      @yamaspajamaz7718 Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@Diogo85 Naruto, One Piece, Bleach, Fairy Tail, and even Hunter x Hunter

    • @SonicIsTheGoat14
      @SonicIsTheGoat14 Před 10 měsíci

      @@yamaspajamaz7718 ngl, I'm pretty sure the animation in DBZ is the same as Akira

  • @charaznable9209
    @charaznable9209 Před 8 měsíci +2

    Sonic collects 7 chaos emeralds.
    Goku collects 7 dragon balls.
    Yeah obviously Sonic copied a lot but that's okay.

    • @NeoZero42
      @NeoZero42 Před 21 dnem

      this comment is a lil sp£d icl

  • @daylanforrest9307
    @daylanforrest9307 Před 10 měsíci +5

    But sonic use the chaos emeralds to turn super and goku just use his own energy to turn super saiyan

    • @BlueNinja-pw1yt
      @BlueNinja-pw1yt Před 8 měsíci

      Facts Sonic does not have the power to become Super Sonic he needs the diamonds to transform

  • @porobotboyxxx
    @porobotboyxxx Před 10 měsíci +3

    1:33-1:37 Actually Naoto Ohshima is Sonic’s real daddy.

  • @yap-yapthedestroyer1083
    @yap-yapthedestroyer1083 Před 10 měsíci +7

    as a db and sonic fan i can strongly say that sonic just took heavy inspirations from not just dragonball content but from anime ingeneral

    • @Salheeeel
      @Salheeeel Před 10 měsíci

      @@MakaMalum what are u talking about

    • @SonicIsTheGoat14
      @SonicIsTheGoat14 Před 10 měsíci +1

      I think what he means is that Sonic has been inspired from other anime, mostly DBZ because of Super Sonic and Silver the Hedgehog. So if anime wasn't a thing, some things from Sonic that are inspired by anime wouldn't exist.

    • @SonicIsTheGoat14
      @SonicIsTheGoat14 Před 10 měsíci +2

      actually, Sonic is more compared to comic book characters than anime characters, but Sonic has been a homage to DBZ and taken inspiration from other anime. Sega created Sonic so that they can rival Nintendo's Mario.

    • @SonicIsTheGoat14
      @SonicIsTheGoat14 Před 10 měsíci +2

      @@MakaMalum most anime were created because of Sun Wukong, not Sonic. and some anime existed before Sonic was even created. the most recognizable anime that Sonic had inspired several things from was DBZ.

  • @DJWingoYT
    @DJWingoYT Před 10 měsíci +2

    Short story: no just because sonic take inspiration doesn’t mean everything is taken

  • @PoopyPantsTheThurd
    @PoopyPantsTheThurd Před 10 měsíci +2

    they didn't, they copied dragon ball *AND* mario. But long story short not everything.

    • @PoopyPantsTheThurd
      @PoopyPantsTheThurd Před 10 měsíci

      @@MakaMalum the reply above me has been cursed with being stupid
      oh wait someone already cursed them

  • @Pokedexentry
    @Pokedexentry Před 10 měsíci +3

    fun fact super sayians og disign ha red eyes but then got chagned to green and with sonic its the other way around but sonic justgot insperation from db

  • @MrLaGzaLoT
    @MrLaGzaLoT Před 10 měsíci +5

    Shadow hasn't fought Sonic using his full power. I strongly believe if they went all out Shadow would win easily.

    • @delaware5407
      @delaware5407 Před 10 měsíci +1

      Yes, you don't seem to learn, Shadow had intent to kill in the sa2 fight...

    • @MrLaGzaLoT
      @MrLaGzaLoT Před 10 měsíci +2

      @delaware5407 Yet, you seem to not realize Shadow was not at his Full power during that fight. As a matter of fact the only time we've seen Shadow at Full Power was in Sonic 06 and Sonic X.

    • @aegislashkoW
      @aegislashkoW Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@delaware5407 his line doesnt pmean anything,if he was at full power he would have remove his rings acting as limiters

    • @delaware5407
      @delaware5407 Před 10 měsíci

      @@aegislashkoW That's easy to explain, the limiter rings were an idea that SEGA hadn't thought at the moment, so it's just a retcon

    • @delaware5407
      @delaware5407 Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@MrLaGzaLoT Sonic X? The non-canon series?
      06? The game where Shadow literally admited being inferior?
      And yes, Shadow was at full power, so he was in the battle against Emerl and in the gens fight

  • @caidonnelly3942
    @caidonnelly3942 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Bro they confirmed that Silver is kind of inspired by Trunks.
    DEAD SERIOUS.

    • @Magic_Dragon1
      @Magic_Dragon1 Před 10 měsíci

      Kind of

    • @Magic_Dragon1
      @Magic_Dragon1 Před 10 měsíci

      But the only thing they share is that they live in future that get destroyed and than they return to main timeline in order to neutralize a threat that destroyed world

  • @patrykm1011
    @patrykm1011 Před 6 měsíci +1

    I never thought I miner would make a documentary about sonic and dragon ball 🤯

  • @dionebrinkley5551
    @dionebrinkley5551 Před 10 měsíci +3

    Hyper sonic 1993 ultra instinct Goku 2015 😱😱😱😱

  • @might_guy21
    @might_guy21 Před 10 měsíci +4

    Hey trycolden i love ur videos ive been a fan for a long time!

  • @timotheravetier9442
    @timotheravetier9442 Před 10 měsíci +1

    I consider Metal Sonic as Sonic’s true rival, he’s perfect and people want Shadow instead, so sega leaves him in the trash wich makes him even less popular
    I mean, metal sonic is litterally built by eggman, the main villain of the sonic series, he’s made to be an exact replica.

  • @JaxElectroSaiyan
    @JaxElectroSaiyan Před 10 měsíci +1

    Namek arc Super Saiyan Goku had red eyes in an early magazine article. Super Sonic in Sonic 3 has green eyes
    Silver was outright inspired from Future Trunks because his character notes from the 06 developers say something on the lines of "Silver is Future Trunks from Dragon Ball"
    Also Perfect Cell is also stated to be the "Ultimate Life Form" 💀

  • @Ron_Junkman
    @Ron_Junkman Před 10 měsíci +2

    The only one I truly think was copied for Dragon Ball was Silver. Sonic and Shadow are only similar to Goku and Vegeta because they both are similar character types. Sonic/Goku, being the fun loveing goof ball that is always down for a good time (be it fighting or an adventure) and Shadow/Vegeta are the edgey loner types that will work with others but will always prefer to do things their way.

    • @SonicIsTheGoat14
      @SonicIsTheGoat14 Před 10 měsíci +4

      I wouldn't say copied, but yes, Silver is directly inspired by Future Trunks. both Trunks and Silver have their differences. Trunks and Silver both come from the future, they are optimistic and realists. As a fan of both characters, they had poor writings (Sonic 06 & DBS), at least the Archie Comics and SDBH did them justice.

    • @Magic_Dragon1
      @Magic_Dragon1 Před 10 měsíci +2

      Nah, he's not copied, future trunks is just weaker sayian from the future compared to goku and vegeta, while silver don't share same moves with sonic and shadow

  • @luke22.3
    @luke22.3 Před 10 měsíci +17

    I really hope you achieve all your goals this year dude! You're a great creator and such a hard worker! Rooting for you hard this year

  • @sonicfanmanrealreal5629
    @sonicfanmanrealreal5629 Před 10 měsíci +2

    this is a stupid question, nobody thinks this
    but they are 100% inspired and without dragonball sonic would be nothing

  • @stoilkaheimueller467
    @stoilkaheimueller467 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Proof that Sonic isn’t copied by Goku: Zeno?
    Goku Black? Grand Priest? Tournament of power? Jiren? Chaos emeralds do EVERY wish and the dragon balls a couple. Infinite? The dragon balls doesn’t give power but the emeralds do and more…

  • @Corvolet5
    @Corvolet5 Před 10 měsíci +2

    I don't think SEGA ripped Goku off, they have some similarities but are still very different.
    If you wanna talk about a ripoff, take the final boss from Mario 3D World: Bowser's Fury.
    You basically turn into a Golden spiky form that jumps over ramps, collects coins and rings in a destroyed world in order to hit a giant water (and fire based) monster to a pulp. Sound familiar? Sonic Adventure DX.

  • @porobotboyxxx
    @porobotboyxxx Před 10 měsíci +6

    5:53-6:10 Yet in future games Shadow calls himself the ultimate lifeform. Plus Sonic Prime clearly thinks differently since half of Shadow’s interactions involves him fighting Sonic and successfully steals from Sonic even when Sonic’s conscious.

    • @delaware5407
      @delaware5407 Před 10 měsíci

      Shadow lost his memory after sa2...
      And about prime.... Sonic broke REALITY

    • @porobotboyxxx
      @porobotboyxxx Před 10 měsíci

      @@delaware5407 Shadow regained his memory, also Sonic and Shadow were fighting before Sonic broke reality.

    • @P0tatoz9
      @P0tatoz9 Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@porobotboyxxxwhen does shadow call himself the ultimate life form? The only instances I can think of is shadow and heroes, but in both of those games he had amnesia. Prime is different because it’s a tv show, but even then, the reason that sonic and shadow were fighting was because sonic created that shockwave.

    • @P0tatoz9
      @P0tatoz9 Před 10 měsíci

      @@porobotboyxxxlso shadow wins like more than half of his fights with sonic in prime, compared to goku and vegeta, which are mostly neck and neck

    • @BanishedSilentShadow3318
      @BanishedSilentShadow3318 Před 10 měsíci +1

      Pretty sure Shadow only fought with sonic was due to him seeing vision of sonic shattering the prisim and he tried to prevent it from happening

  • @chillstarshow8435
    @chillstarshow8435 Před 10 měsíci +2

    Bro we already dealt with this shit years ago

  • @Jv-MAX-CRINSOM
    @Jv-MAX-CRINSOM Před 10 měsíci +2

    People like to say super sonic is a copy
    Visually i can see the inspiration but in function and the power of the super form in sonic is way superior
    Cause it gives sonic new powers while in dragon ball is just a power boost

    • @SonicIsTheGoat14
      @SonicIsTheGoat14 Před 10 měsíci +1

      people always say Super Sonic is a copy of Super Saiyan 1 because he's yellow and his quills stick up just like Goku's hair. Super Sonic is more of a homage to DBZ's Super Saiyan than a rip-off, but the transformations are way too different.

  • @iminyourwalls51
    @iminyourwalls51 Před 10 měsíci +2

    fun fact you guys didnt need to know: IBLIS means demon in turkish

    • @WAVESVSV
      @WAVESVSV Před 10 měsíci +1

      If you didn't know, Iblis is not just a normal demon, a normal demon is shaytan, but iblis is the name of the king of the demons in islam, the one who possessed Adam and eve into eating the apples

    • @iminyourwalls51
      @iminyourwalls51 Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@WAVESVSV im turkish so im more intot this stuff, iblis CAN be used for the king of the demons but most of the people refer iblis as normal demons

  • @Vexxqnn
    @Vexxqnn Před 10 měsíci +8

    No, Shadow was Actually Inspired By Bass From the megaman series & also Underworld (2003), Constantine (2005), and those in the Terminator series because Sega was influenced by there films.

    • @delaware5407
      @delaware5407 Před 10 měsíci

      Shadow's first appearance was in 2001

  • @jayceon8802
    @jayceon8802 Před 10 měsíci +2

    bro showed hyper sonic as my home screen 💀

  • @tlst94
    @tlst94 Před 20 dny

    What if in an alternate timeline, copyright laws had been stricter? And even forbade inspirations and homages? What would've changed about iconic franchises like Dragon Ball and Sonic? Imagine growing up in that parallel universe with altered memories. How'd you all have thought about it from a new POV?

  • @chaosuniverse8005
    @chaosuniverse8005 Před 10 měsíci +1

    The only similarity between Silver and Trunks is that they both came from the future
    Trunks went back in time because he couldn't defeat androids, Silver could defeat Iblis but couldn't kill him, Trunks went back in time to save Goku, Silver went back in time to kill Sonic, Trunks went back in time completely with the previous plan, in While someone sent Silver to the past without any plan.
    Even their hair color is not the same, in canon, Trunk's hair color is blue, but Silver's fur color is silver

    • @maxkingjoe5460
      @maxkingjoe5460 Před 10 měsíci +1

      No time travel characters are appeared way before dragon ball if you watch 80s american movies like terminator a soilder who wants to stop killing sarah coner if not the world ispt change.

  • @notfex1427
    @notfex1427 Před 10 měsíci +5

    The only difference between Trunks and Silver is that even though some of the stuff Trunks got were asspulls, he still got something. Silver was introduced once and that's it, he didn't get crap after that, he was just tossed aside in the trash bin like the side character he is.

    • @xavierdepriest
      @xavierdepriest Před 10 měsíci +4

      Ok i agree witht hat part, the creater even said silver was inspired by trunks

    • @notfex1427
      @notfex1427 Před 10 měsíci +4

      @@xavierdepriest, and to this day Silver STILL didn't get any justice.

    • @robertlupa8273
      @robertlupa8273 Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@notfex1427 he was pretty good in the IDW comics from what I've heard...
      ...but I've also heard that Ian Flynn "fixed" the Archie Comics when he took over, only to later read an article about how he created even more plot holes during his run than other writers combined, so at this point I'm not sure what to believe anymore. :/

    • @notfex1427
      @notfex1427 Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@robertlupa8273, thats crazy, straight up nuts.

    • @animegamefan8678
      @animegamefan8678 Před 10 měsíci +3

      The only similarity between them is that they are both from the future. Their reasons for going to the past are different, there personalities are different(Trunks is a lot more serious or emotional while Silver is more naive and funny type),
      Trunks has mainly the same abilities as Goku and Vegeta while Silver has many different abilities from Sonic and Shadow.

  • @banjo9158
    @banjo9158 Před 10 měsíci +2

    Sonic definetly have a lot of inspirations from DBZ. but they are not the same, both franchises are vastly different. calling it a rip-off would be dumb.

  • @_mxms
    @_mxms Před 6 měsíci +2

    this man misunderstands goku so bad it hurts

  • @omartheanimator7958
    @omartheanimator7958 Před 10 měsíci +1

    silver went back in time to kill the main character, trunks went back to help the main character

    • @Doomer_Coomer
      @Doomer_Coomer Před 7 měsíci

      Trunks thinking " goku black " goku ?

  • @TheBunny_Hopper
    @TheBunny_Hopper Před 10 měsíci +12

    Another thing to note Ultra Sonic a form from the comics came first before Ultra instinct.

    • @SonicIsTheGoat14
      @SonicIsTheGoat14 Před 10 měsíci

      way before Super Saiyan God. Ultra Sonic is also my favorite transformation.

    • @nostalgia.1532
      @nostalgia.1532 Před 10 měsíci +1

      Just wondering, dbz impacted the thing “Transformation” the most in the fictional history. So how do u explain that

    • @SonicIsTheGoat14
      @SonicIsTheGoat14 Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@nostalgia.1532 Goku is directly inspired by Sun Wukong. Sun Wukong has 72 Earthly transformations. If anything, Goku has about 10-20 transformations, most of them are recolors.

  • @TrashierPanda
    @TrashierPanda Před 10 měsíci +3

    As a fan of Dragonball an even bigger fan of Sonic this was a very useful and informative video which genuinely surprised me coming from you (no offense big fan). And I applaud you for even making this video cuz I could see how a lot of your audience wouldn't even care to watch it

  • @SonicTehHedgehog_YT

    Although dbs definately stole the goku black arc from sonic 06.

  • @goodluckudeonwe
    @goodluckudeonwe Před 10 měsíci +2

    Does anyone know that dragon ball actually copied some things from the sonic franchise?
    Dragon ball copied ultra sonic from the archie comics. I mean just look at the two, sonic looks like he is in base but with a yellow ring around him and black stars around him too. While ultra instinct goku looks like his base form but his hair was a little more curved up and has white particles.
    Dragon ball copied hyper sonic. I mean, just look at em', they literally look the same
    I also don't think silver was not that much copied from trunks. Yea they have the same backstory except the only difference is that silver was tricked by mephilis that sonic was the person who caused his future to be like that

  • @BehemothOrga21445
    @BehemothOrga21445 Před 10 měsíci +3

    I mean dragon ball did come before sonic so maybe

    • @Diogo85
      @Diogo85 Před 10 měsíci

      That it did.

  • @rememberthatoneshow3216
    @rememberthatoneshow3216 Před 10 měsíci +3

    Yes, but actually no

  • @StriderStryker
    @StriderStryker Před 10 měsíci +1

    Even though that I respect both franchises, the main problem is those toxic fans of both series.

  • @KakaUjutuwi
    @KakaUjutuwi Před 10 dny

    honestly i don't really care if they ARE copies of each others, thing is i like dragon ball and sonic both, it even creates some sonic vs goku fight animations or comics that i enjoy, so yeah!

  • @masonmcfadden4886
    @masonmcfadden4886 Před 10 měsíci +2

    Sonic not a rip off but it is inspired 💯

  • @jaidenclaybron5024
    @jaidenclaybron5024 Před 10 měsíci +7

    Inspiration is not copying because Goku isn't a speedster or has blue skin or an hedgehog

    • @elijahthorpe815
      @elijahthorpe815 Před 10 měsíci +1

      Inspiration is copying 😂

    • @chiateghang3629
      @chiateghang3629 Před 10 měsíci +2

      @@elijahthorpe815 inspiration is not copying, copying is copying.

    • @elijahthorpe815
      @elijahthorpe815 Před 10 měsíci

      Nigga if your inspiration by something its copying lets same you made a game and that person wants to make a game yes you are inspiration by that person so what are you going to do your going to copied that person cus he made the game learn more about it and then you well understand

    • @axiom6000
      @axiom6000 Před 10 měsíci +2

      @@elijahthorpe815Not necessarily

    • @WAVESVSV
      @WAVESVSV Před 10 měsíci +6

      ​@elijahthorpe815 copying means when we do the exact same work, with no ideas, while inspiration is when admitting that this is inspired by something, ans not fully copied but some of it is similar, like super sonic and super saiyans do have similar designs and names but their powers are complete different, like chaos emeralds are 7 like dragon balls but they are gems and not balls, they are power and not wish, they are no dragon, like sonic, he is a hedgehog which has spikey hair or quills, goku has a spikey hair but they are completely different race and have different powers and fighting styles, sonic is a speedster while goku is a martial artist, that's the difference between copying and inspiring

  • @YeetoTheYeetafic
    @YeetoTheYeetafic Před 27 dny

    technically silver's based on that one kid from terminator because trunks is as he travelled back to the past as a grown up to help a jacked guy (as frieza wisely said 'oh my god you could grind meat on those')

  • @Sonic12Lexi
    @Sonic12Lexi Před 4 měsíci +1

    No, but Bubsy seems to be copying Sonic and Mario a lot more for me.