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A lot of respect for the young man who went to the police..
Initially you don't want to accuse a 14 or 15 year old of murder, have you not read the scriptures?
All have sinned, ALL!!!
When are we going to wake up? Shalom, L'hllel, Amen.
@@gregoryadair4932tf are you on about?
@@gregoryadair4932blood for blood.. kill and you shall be killed.. judge righteously.. render unto Ceasar what is Ceasars and unto God what is God's.... and on a moral level just being human does the blood of their slain mother not call out? They got away with this murder in my opinion for being young females.. there's a double standard in western countries when it comes to the female population.. no accountability 😢
@@earlmartin2769 Adonai Elohim YHWH, sent his only begotten son, Yeshua HaMessiah into the world; a new Covenant was formed. As spoken of by Yeshua in the books of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John we are to forgive our adversaries. Those of us that cannot do so, Adonai Yeshua Elohim will not appeal to the Holy Father to forgive you. However, Slayers that are not repentant deserve death. Keep in mind that hating a person even if you do not physically kill them is murder.
Also in those same above mentioned scriptures, Yeshua stated that an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth were abolished because of the new Covenant made by his Holy Father. We are to love one another as they love us through the spirit of trust given to them that believe.
Render unto Caesar the things of Caesar which are earthly desires such as lust, greed, sodomy, mockery, and murder and thefts. Plus the nearly 594 other sins that we omit.
Judging Righteously, is not judging at all but standing in the judgements ordained by Adonai Elohim Yeshua HaMessiah Tzav'ot. That is of course if you yourself do not forsake the laws and the commandments.
Finally as spoken of in the book of Ephesians 4:26-32, and 6:10-23 Live that life according to the will of Adonai Elohim Yeshua HaMessiah Tzav'ot. Shalom, L'hllel, Amen.
They were 15 and 16 but 16 and 17 when they got charged should have got a lot more than 6 years ridiculous
Only six years in custody ? They did get away with murder !
What do you expect from a feminist/misandrist country? Judge in Canada: women = accountability 😂
They hated their mother. I would've done 6 years.
They were tried as kids.
AND they got $200,000 too
@@HobbyOrganist
Not if it's insurance money. Insurance do not pay out insured money to the murderer.
Imagine almost getting away with the “perfect crime” but you’re caught because you can’t keep your mouth closed 🥴
Teens mate
It’s their mother’s spirit speaking from above that’s why those two little bitches / monsters got caught
🙈🙊🙉 It's a Hard lesson to learn
I personally think the reason they were bragging about it, is because they felt guilty and responsible, especially the older 16 yr old and the mother was unfit, reckless, violent, abusive, brought violent abusive men into the home; was upset about a breakup w/ yet another violent abusive boyfriend or dangerous man that she brought into their home, with two young daughters; recklessly negligently endangered both herself and her daughters; she would most likely have overdosed and/or drowned at some point any way. She urged them to ply her with alcohol and pills, wanted to be in a drunken stupor was perhaps even s***idal. This was more like an assisted s****de meets euthanasia than an M. And they were minors 15 and 16. In a way they needed to confess, they need to recuperate from both chronic from years of being pushed around by Mommy Dearest and acute trauma from allowing her to drown to death. And the added chronic trauma from committing the deed.
And they probably inherited their mother’s depressive-abusive, alcoholic and self inflicting s******l tendencies in tandem w/ all that.
No way could they “get away with it” probably had PTSD nightmares from abuse by the mother, abuse by the mother’s boyfriends and then later around the drowning. Add to that the absent father. The mother had 2 failed marriages, and multiple breakups with boyfriends and often asked her minor daughters to get her drunk when she was sad. Stay away from Vodka and Tylenol 3.
But they did get away with it..6 years is the most unbelievable garbage sentence for their awful crime with no real remorse!!
My husband fell in the tub, I happened to be right outside the door. Being a nurse, I was able to get him up and out safely using body mechanics and lining the drained tub with towels to give us leverage and grip after assessing his condition. I immediately bought a bath chair and installed extra rails in the tub/shower unit. No more baths or even a standing shower! We are both over 60 and my husband is in his 70's. Safety first.
My respect for u is ⬆️ god bless you and your husband
First off thabk you for all your years of hard work. Second thank god you were there for your hubby and had the knowledge to know what to do safely! Bless you both, stay safe have a VERY merry Christmas and happy holidays
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Are you goofy??
This is a murder case not a bathtub safety case !!
God bless us nurses. Awesome assessment.
The pajamas were a ploy to make them look more like innocent children.
P.j.'s also convey a type of clinging to what is familiar and safe like the baby blanket or plush toy. It was very much calculated. These two were big into costume and the art of taking on roles. The goth thing was ditched the moment they got into court. This show goes to fishnet stocking which I don't know if was true or not, but I did read about the goth makeup and clothes.
No it says it right in the video the lawyers did it to make the police look mean.
@@wingerding Wrong, the police assigned clothes for them so they would be dressed appropriately but they Declined and would only wear the pajamas the ones they got locked up in
another form of manipulation
I think they were attached to their mother, and did miss and care for her.
Just because some1 is an abusive, violent, irreparably insane drunk recklessly endangering parent doesn’t mean she wasn’t loved, that she never spewed a kind word, that she was never nice or a good mother or that she wasn’t missed; that the girls did not love and miss her considerably that they didn’t suffer through guilt over the drowning. Some people cope w/ guilt by bragging about and justifying what they did, the mother had 2 failed marriages, several known to be abusive ex-boyfriends, was reckless and attracted to violence and violent men, she got her daughters to pour her vodka all the time, give her pills to soothe her pain, probably gave her daughters the idea to let her die for insurance, we don’t know how involved the mother herself was in her death and whether she told them about her life insurance most life insurance policies are void if the person on whose life, insurance is taken has committed s***ide. .
Her death was peaceful, but I think they did feel guilty and depressed and devastated, to dismiss everything as ‘play acting’ is strange to me. I think any body would naturally be in traumatic shock after a parent’s death, be they responsible for it or not, be the parent abusive or not; either way no matter the circumstances the death of a parent is bound to be dire.
I hope that woman did not realize what was happening to her. Imagine dying and the last image you see is your children doing that to you.
When her spirit separated from her physical body, she knew!!! 😢
Very very tragic. The poor woman suffered unhappy relationships with both husband's and kids. Poor, poor woman. Made me very sad.
It’s happening more these days when adult children are killing there parents & grandparents I hear it all the time
@@nikkiturnup1688 very sad. No qualms
This is almost identical to another crime whete 2 teenage, African American teens, both stab their mother, then put her in the tub & while she was dying, she told her daughters that they were evil 😕
The boyhood friend who went to the police is a hero. Much respect to him.
If she can kill her own mother, what of boyfriend
You ask how can two children murder their mom? The answer:" The heart is more deceitful than anything else and incurable; who can understand it? I the Lord examine the mind, I test the heart to give to each according to his way, according to what his actions deserve".
Jeremiah 17 vs 9&10.
@@BallyDuffus ,,, AMÉN 👍
Hero??? Is that all it takes to be a hero now? I spent 3 hours mowing my elderly neighbors yard in 100 degree heat and I'm no hero.
@@thomasjensen6243lmaoo sir sit yo ass downn
Amazing that so many of their friends knew that they killed their mother and could still laugh with them about it… I’m shocked at how heartless they were.
Yeah...that's the nastiest part of this crime...
Evil people are supposed to be heartless !! 100% Void of conscience & heart emotion. 🥶
To be honest most folk really aren't heartless in their choice behavior, they just pick and choose behaviors that they believe will make them cool/appear cool to whatever social group that they're in/keeping. As their focus is about being accepted and fitting in based on their works. Yes to those that do not think and behave like them.......they will be seen as heartless, and that is because individuals as such won't likely go that far to gain/keep "friends' or in order to gain. Just the fact that they casually spoke about killing their mother and being ok with having such conversation, pretty much confirms the kind of company that they kept. As people don't share every and anything with just anyone. Often times they're way more open to saying x,y,z amongst "like minds" ......individuals that support the same quality of thought and behavior that they exercise. The fact that kids are like this, pretty much confirms the quality of adults that exist.
..its a new world movement..humans against humans..no animals do this..animals kill for only hunger or if it feels danger to its babies..😐😐😑
I saw a case in Crimes that shook Australia, a dinner party was organised as last supper by the wife who was the law student and going to kill her husband that night. She invited friends over and all of them knew what the party was about, all of them went and told no one. The first attempt did not work (forgot what happened). So she organised the last supper part 2 and again all friends who were also law students came and this time she killed the husband. So yeah I guess we have plenty such people around. She got off easily, published best selling books from prison, came out rich. None of the people attended the party were charged.
6 years in custody is laughable. The only lesson they learned is to tell no one the next time they want to murder someone.
One was only 4 years in
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It’s insane. Laws should change to avoid these injustices. The level of planning, the cold hearts… they committed a crime just like any adult
They have been granted 6 years in custody as a reward for their ability to hide their crime for almost an antire year.
They got away with murder. They killed their own mother. These sisters are pure evil.
Canada loves to coddle violent monsters
They’re highly intelligent but don’t know their computer searches can all be recovered??
1 sister was accepted to the University of Waterloo with a $2000 scholarship n completed law school. The other is a University graduate, a scientist. What a wonderful life theyr having after committing murder of their own mother, WTF!!
HOW can a person with a criminal record be a Lawyer?
@@piva1358 if she wasn't CHARGED in her mother's death , she would be "reviewed" by a board of attorneys in her area; if they are satisfied w her explanation, they will allow her to receive a liscense to practice law........😬
@Ryan and Cindie Lowden 🤣🤣🤣🤣 believe me, I do, but they are supposed to commit crimes after they pass their BAR exams.
@@piva1358 😂😂😂
@@scarletdeharlot9106 og well she deserved it if she allowed her BF to abuse her girls.
Why was this case closed as an accidental drowning without full toxicology performed, what an oversight. My husband died of heart failure and full toxicology was done here in Australia.
Yeah... the States not as advance.lol
@@abiamiamab9677 This was in Canada..? & The states are too "advanced". This was a while ago & police probably wrongfully assumed two girls wouldn't kill their alcoholic mother.
@@abiamiamab9677 Even more fun. They're out of jail with new identities.
@@aceykrew5207 Because they were tried as kids.
@@aceykrew5207 thanks. Whenever people hear an American accent an failure it is always "the states" - coming from a non US citizen (cause I know there will be someone complqining)
Nobody came out and told their parents or police about the sisters' plan to kill their own mother. It shows how bad the moral of the society is amongst 'normal' people
True its sickening.
Humans are innately selfish. It takes a special person to go against their selfish nature and do the right thing, which only one young man did in this instance. The rest of them were in self preservation mode which ultimately says I care more about my own well being than anyone elses.
Maybe they didn’t think they would actually do it
Because their friends saw how trash their mother was. Maybe that’s why…
@@aquaseahorselove3939 You mean, sinful nature. From the beginning, man has been trying to cover their sins with lies and manipulation of emotions. ... God Bless You In All Truth. - In Christ, Christina
Why are people like these two ever released after murdering their mother? Why?
It's nauseating to think they are likely mothers themselves!
50 plus years around when there 80 let it hurt if they live that long
@@melmack2003 yes, they are mothers. They are around 36 year old now. They were released from around 2014. There is article about them, in that time, when they were released, even with photo.
@@warrax111 Thank you for your reply.
Why are women who kill (abort) their babies allowed to walk about in our society??.
The cops told them "we have tape recordings of you telling your friends that you killed your mother, we saw incriminating searches you made on line such as how long it takes a person to drown and we also have copies of text messages where you admitted to the murder". The girls tell the cops, "We heard what you heard and we saw what you saw and we didn't do anything wrong!" They obviously had taken the Dalia Dippolito seminar on "How to deny things happened when there is concrete proof they happened." Just one question...Why are these monsters free?
Was that the lady that tried to put a hit on her husband and then tried to get him to bail her out lol
They're out because the Justice System failed the mother by not charging the daughters as adults, just like the family, School, Councler, CYS worker & they're own father let those girls down. The whole story is sad. I watched the movie on this "Perfect Sisters", & it was pretty good, but like I said this story is just so sad.
liberal canada is pro criminal
Wait these girls are out?! They are a risk to do this again if they so callously did this to their OWN mother
Blame Canada
“Any death in a bathtub is suspicious”…. Can’t help but think of Whitney Houston and her daughter Bobby both found in bathtubs. Their deaths never will settle right with me.
Her daughter was chock full of drugs and alcohol. She probably wanted to die tin the same way as her mother. Her mother was also full of drugs. There’s nothing sinister.
Oh yeah
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We're responsible
Especially giving them drugs...
I immediately thought of that. They were drowned. Murdered.
I thought of Whitney too!
@@mazzaf7575 Agreed.
One sister became a lawyer wtf🤣🤣 im sure she is a criminal lawyer🤣🤣
For anyone wondering, Their real names are Caroline & Catherine Karubin. The mothers name was Anne Margaret Karubin.
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Screw the Young Offenders Act!
stupid law they gotaway with the murder
A mother's worst plight. What a way to have your heart ripped out and discarded. More than sad
They should've been tried as adults, they knew exactly what they were doing and bragged about it, this is so unfair.
i have zero sympathy for these murderous evil girls, who committed heinous matricide. But they should not be tried as adults because they are children. This is recognised the world over as how to try children, apart from one country, the USA which is the ONLY one in the world not to have ratified the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child. If they should have longer sentences in Canada for children convicted is another matter, but they are not adults
@@ura9390 Regardless, as teenagers they're old enough to know right from wrong. They showed zero remorse for what they did to their mother. They knew it was wrong and did it anyway. That sentence was a complete slap in the face of the victim and a slap on the wrist to the daughters. Their names and faces should have been plastered all over Canada so the public knows what they've done and could be capable of doing again.
@@johnnabuzby6103 Agree with that, but they were not adults, they were murderous children and should not be tried nor treated as adults. How murderous children are dealt with is another matter for debate, but tried as adults is more of an emotion act of revulsion and punitive intent than adhering to an internationally recognised and ratified benchmark based on child rights, the development of the mind and the potential for rehabilitation, the need for proportional justice, etc etc etc. Just as we should not treat children as adults sexually, for a wide range of reasons, we shouldn't legally, for another raft of demonstrable reasons. Not at least, if we wish to call ourselves an advanced and civilised society
@@johnnabuzby6103 the irony is the youngest sister is now a lawyer at the Ontario Court of Justice in Scarborough.
@@incredulousone6855 I read that elsewhere in the comments. That's crazy. She helped her sister kill the woman who gave them life, gets a slap on the wrist and goes on to become a lawyer.
These two sisters have no remorse. They are living their lives as though nothing is wrong. These two girls are monsters. I imagine one might be the monster, but they "both" collaborated to kill their mother....
I’m surprised a blood test for substances wasn’t taken at her initial death investigation.
it should have been, inept not to have done so.
My father was an abusive alcoholic; I packed my bags and moved out. The girls had an Aunt, all they had to do was move out and go live with her.
The aunt wouldn’t take them. She had three kids of her own and she felt it was the girls responsibility to stay and help their mother! She only took them in after the mother’s death when the insurance money was going to be released to whomever took custody!
Their mother put their daughter’s at risk, she was an alcoholic that dated males who were sketchy, so I don’t feel bad for this woman at all. These girl’s tried to get help, but no one helped them, so the girl’s were at their wits ends.
Yes, but they were also greedy...they wanted the mother dead to take the life insurance money.
@@Jessica-go6cy i don’t understand why the people don’t help the girls the girls trying to figure out how they could help their mother this is sad
@@mshayashi I don’t think that true
It's sooooooo chilling to think had these teens not said anything at all they would have gotten away with murdering their own mother. It was their own arrogance that did them in. Just mind blowing 🤯
What did the 15 yr old male Informant have to gain by acting as a Undercover Agent?
@@willmarinac5201 I reckon he woulda got himself a bag
Dont worry next time they wont lol
@@latesttechtrends1227 lol yeah
Bless US All's most morons brag and people scared To Say Anythingcause lies on all sides #STOPAGEDFON SHOULDA BEDN RAISED ADULT STUPIDITY
My mother almost drowned in a bathtub!!!
Had to climb through bathroom window...thought she had fallen and killed herself.
Thank God, she was alright!!!!
We forbid her to ever take a bath alone.
Was a terribly horrible night....but turned out well!!!!!!
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Scary!
Really comforting to hear a success story of ppl that ❤ their family member & SAVE HER! i don’t know - just so nice to hear in the middle of this tragedy. TY much for your input! 🤟🏼🕊️💕
They are evil they need to be in jail forever
I think they got away with muRder , because the "sentence" was a JOKE !
Fukn justice system in canada is a joke lol...smh
i'm 14 they can be rehabe
@@amirmurray9916 yes. Look at Karla
Alas!Real justice wasn't served that's why it's said:Justice is blind.You claim an innocent life and then sentenced to jail for just a few years, that's very unfair.
I loved the judge saying, 'you tried to commit the perfect crime but only succeeded in creating the perfect prosecution.'
Wow, what a crappy excuse for a prison sentence
That's Canada for you!.... pathetic, no justice!
As a Canadian that lives in the next community over from Mississauga, Ontario, I have to say that the criminal justice system in Canada needs to be overhauled and this case is a perfect example. Those girls should have been tried as adults. SMDH
They will do again they are evils
Agreed! Canada is far too liberal imo. Being progressive isn't always a good thing.. as we see in cases like this.
Agreed. I live 30 min from here and hear stories like this too often.
It’s what progressive liberalism does- protects the criminal and not society.
@@CrustyUgg Our high quality of life and low crime rates say otherwise.
The drowning was "highly suspicious" yet they didn't do a toxicology test? WTH? Also I have to say, if I found out my child knew about a murder either before it happened, while it was happening, and/or after it happened, and never said anything about it, I would be so ashamed of them and I would feel like a failure as a parent. How do the parents of all those teenagers who kept their mouths shut even look their children in the eyes? A disgusting and immoral lot, all of them.
Cant do toxicology test unless they have some hint of the toxin... like say arsenic or potassium cyanide or something normally used by murderers in such cases. Codeine is not such an ingredient.
I'm very concerned for our youth and their lack of morals. Of course, as parents we are to nurture them in a way for them to fear God and know our own nature is sinful and must be kept in check. I think we have failed our children.
You must have missed it. A tox screen WAS done, and a high level of codeine was found in her body - a key element in this investigation, actually.
@@sueferris3685 I didn't miss it, but didn't qualify it, my bad. I should have stated, "The reason they might not have done a toxicology test from the start..." and add it to the rest of my statement below.
they took toxicology test .....ahahaha
God bless that kid that spoke up!
It probably allowed the perpetrators to deal with what happened healthily too, they must have a lot of survivor guilt, Stockholm syndrome etc and needed therapy from long before their mother’s demise. Albeit given the mother’s reckless self destructive and child endangering lifestyle and unchecked violent abusive alcoholism; she could have accidentally overdosed anyway. To me, more than a h*****de this was euthanasia meets assisted s****de.
No one is perfect. Feel terribly sorry for the mother…she probably on that last night had the feeling that at long last her children seemed to like her, love her. What evil daughters.
Yeah... It drives me crazy... My mum was an alcoholic too, with severe depression... She kept going for me and my brother and thats what that mother tried to do as well... And they killed her
Not to mention shit peoples attacking the mother and being sorry for those two poor excuses of a daughters...
None case infuriated me so much in years...
She didn’t deserve to die. I hope they realize one day when they have no one to call mother, no one to see them with those motherly eyes, no one that they can feel comforted by or be there for their kids. Life has a way of coming around though.. I know they’ll face the consequences eventually. So sad, I hope their mom is in Gods Memory
Very happy this young man came forward. No one should get away with murder; NO ONE...
The older sister did an interview with Global news ( Toronto local news station) last year. She's 33 years old now. She said she has regrets and is haunted by that night and is currently in therapy. The other sister went to law school. You know what's ironic?... They are both single mothers.
Hi hope you well, what are their real names?
@@aakilahgoolam4051 Catherine and Caroline Karubin
Wow. That’s crazy!
maybe that's their karma. be a single mother like their mom.
I wonder if they have six or seven dead bolt locks on their bedroom door? Do you suppose they ever go to bed at night and wonder if just maybe this is the night one of their children does to them what they did to their mother? If I were them I would sleep with my bedroom door locked and with one eye open. How on earth do you put behind you the fact that you murdered your own mother?
What a sordid and twisted tale. Sorry for the mother, sorry for the girls who obviously had a messed up homelife... glad that one young man had the strength to come forward.
I wouldn't feel safe if I were that young man . These girls can organise a hitman and look to it that they have a good alibi .
All’s well that ends well.
What do you mean obviously they had a messed up home life?! You weren't there how would you know !! They murdered their lonely mother for life insurance money !! I would never feel sorry for these two douchebags !!
@@SweetChicagoGator It's literally in the video that they had a difficult childhood. That is in no way an excuse to murder their mother. I also don't believe they should be out of jail. It's just an observation. Were you there to say otherwise? How would you know?
@@thexxit
No reason to commit murder because the mother was suffering from depression had alcohol problems she was distraught and lonely and you're sticking up for two teenage baby girls who murdered her !! My single absentee parent was an absentee alcoholic so I had a very tough childhood and teenage years yet I never thought about murder !!
Get over it girl !! They murdered their mother not for their difficult childhood excuse, but for insurance money greed ! They should not be out !! 😡
Wonder what story they'll tell their children about what happened to their Grandmother.
Lets hope these girls never have children!!
Sterilize these witches. They would kill a baby the second it was inconvenient. And babies are very needy and inconvenient.
I seen another comment that said the little sister is a lawyer and their both single parents…..
The truth probably, I think the chronically adverse effects on their psychological well being from looking after their abusive alcoholic mother for years starting long long before they were 15 and 16 respectively are probably immense, that both of them; especially the eldest suffer from survivor guilt. While they are driven, motivated and doing well now,
They’ll probably tell their kids the truth to deter them from alcohol and other drug addiction; to teach them to take responsibility for their health, wellbeing, and education.
The mother made them ply her w/ alcohol and pills quite often. Made them give her baths🛁 too I suspect. She was reckless, irresponsible and endangered herself as well as her daughters, due in part to her alcoholism and also because she had a proclivity for abusive boyfriends. She lacked motivation, had no impetus for self improvement, did nothing to try to recover from her alcoholism. Was in denial, violent and abusive. Brought other violent, abusive, alcoholics into their home.
The daughters prepared their own meals, cleaned up after, were nursing their mother, their health and grades probably suffered and their abusive mother likely taunted and berated them about it.
But they did have a sort of Stockholm syndrome bond w/ her, Although she was reckless with her life and theirs she was still their mother, the parent who chose to keep the daughters.
A lot of adults stick with abusive partners or guardians, case in point the deceased; a lot more young, dependent children stick with their abusive parents, had she stayed alive, retained custody of them, they probably would be debilitated drugged up High-school dropouts with violent boyfriends and their kids looking after, drugging them on their orders too.
In a way although painful and illegal, overdosing their mother and letting her drown in the bath they drew for her saved the young women from a downward spiral trajectory throughout their lives. And it’s very possible given the mother’s habits that she would’ve died from accidental overdose and/or drowning anyway. Or get k-ed by an abusive boyfriend or his jealous beau or become comatose or something. Or even worse 1 of her abusive boyfriends could k*** her and her children. It’s also very likely that because drugged up, doped, dangerous inebriated men often lived with them, thanks to their reckless mother that they were subjected to s and other abuses already from long before they turned 15 and 16
I truly hope they don't have kids, if they could do this to their own mother..I shudder to think...
Canada's "justice" system is a joke. This mother's murder essentially did go unpunished!!
@ Veruk, Hello, I remember this case good!!! Yes you are 💯 right!!! I live down town Toronto, Canada 🇨🇦 . Canada laws for Murder is a damn JOKE!!! My 7 yr old niece was beaten to death, lock in cupboard!! Lock in apt , starved and the murders get 15 yrs!! The crown DROPPED THE CHARGED FROM 1sr degree to 2nd degree. WE HAVE A LAW IF YOU CONFINE SOMEONE ITS 1st DEGREE!!!! So yess I’m beyond pissed with Canadian laws!! 😡🤬🤬😡
It's a good thing they couldn't keep their mouths shut otherwise they would have gone completely unpunished. Wow ....
@@TheMattc999 @ hello , you know what they say :: A criminal always tells someone of what crime they did, (bragging rights) and that’s how 80 percent gets busted!!! Yes they sure would of gotten away with it if they just kept their big mouth shut!! But I’m GLAD they did& get caught! Plus that’s what they got to live with!!! I don’t think it would be a nice feeling laying your head down at night and trying to go to sleep knowing what they did! ESPECIALLY TO THEIR OWN MOTHER!! And a daughter??? 🤷🏽♀️ they have some serious issues as this is NOT NORMAL BEHAVIOUR!!!God have mercy on their souls.and I think I heard one is already out of day parole and the older sister I think will be up for parole soon. If she also isn’t out yet? Very sad case .❤️🙏🏽🇨🇦Toronto, Canada
wow it is
They would have got the same sentence in the US though, the law regarding that is the same
The killers should never have the luxury of keeping their identities hidden..
Carolyn and Catherine Karubin
Isn't this case similar to the one of a single parent mother being murdered by her twin daughters
But they r different in that their mother spoiled them and they just did not want to be disciplined. This one is most similar to the one where the girl for her boyfrien to kill her mother who was also an alcoholic and dependent on her daughter
Yep, almost like a mirror image
@@miteamatsheka5655 ..they killed her for the life insurance money, they thought they deserved it. Vile bitches they are.
Pretty much the same, except the American twin girls got real sentences, hard time, as it should be. Not the pathetically weak sentences the Canadian [justice system] gave these two murders, and then let them out early on top of that.
Almost similar but then again no! The twins murdered their mother because they were spoiled, the mom bought them nice clothes and they lived in a beautiful neighborhood but, she had rules and they didn't want to listen to theirmother. They wanted to stay with their grandmother because she let them do whatever they wanted. True the grandmother raised them and their own mother, but unlike this story the mother was getting married and had turned her life around. Also the twins hated their mom because she called the cops and they went to juvie for jumping on her. They been plotting her death for a while, this case was the opposite, the mom in this case chose bad men who were abusive to her and made sexual advances towards her girls. Also the girls felt like their mom didn't take care of them properly & she was depressed and an alcoholic!
R. I. P to both moms, but crazy how the twins are still in prison but these savages are out?🤪
Or it could be the way the mother's died: 1st mom was stabbed 80 times & the 2nd one was drowned!
God bless the BRAVE young man who spoke up!
I once nearly drowned in the bathtub. I got into the tub, slipped, banged my head against the faucet, then did a backward roll. After that I was unconscious from the blow to the faucet. One of my sisters heard the fall and got me (together with one of my brothers) out of the bathtub. Luckily I only had a concussion and aspiration- pneumonia.
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Wow, scary stuff. I hope you’ve recuperated from and are more careful since the incident.
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Thank You.
3 times YES.
@@angry_tardigrade its extremely easy to slip and fall in the tub... qnd it's plugged and running when the person falls and if they do hit their head they can be unconscious, don't know why it's so hard to believe, thousands of people slip and fall in the tub every year bro 🤷♀️ also, if you happen to start new medication that makes you tired, it's easy to fall asleep in the tub and not realize until you're under the water or not at all sometimes, there's been many times my mom has had to get me out of the tub cause I've fallen asleep and almost drowned..
It is amazing that people think that murder is the right answer to a problem they have within their lives...it is just astonishing
It's amazing that you fail to understand that murderers aren't normal people. They are a product of their life's circumstances and environment. Things like abuse, neglect, trauma etc. can turn people into monsters. No one is born with an urge to murder and kill. Parents play a pivotal role in what their children become ultimately.
None of the friends who knew about the plan raised the alarm. And not only that, as the murder was actually taking place, none of the friends called the police. One of the friends did get charged, and anther two testified, probably under duress and to save from being prosecuted themselves. Seems like a lot of people bear responsibility for the pre-planned murder.
Absolute BS that they do not let you release names of the perpetrators. People should have the right to know if someone has committed a serious crime like this.
I'm sure you could find it if you searched hard enough.
@@kellywilkins9704 Oh you bet! because a lot of SOMEONES they went to school with etc know exactly who they are, and "someones" write blogs and post to FB and elsewhere and invariably spill the beans.
There was a murder in the UK, two boys kidnapped a toddler from a mall, and then dragged him around town a while and decided it was a great idea to take him to the railroad tracks up on a rise, where they basically beat him to death and then left him laying across the track rail before a train came thru.
The judge sealed their identities AND they were given NEW identities and relocated, the judge made it a CRIME to reveal their new identities, but people eventually found the two POS' and outted them along with photos of them. But the court keeps protecting these two POS's again and again!
"Thompson was 10 years old when he tortured and killed James with his friend Jon Venables after abducting the two-year-old from a shopping centre in Bootle, Merseyside, in 1993.
In November that year, they became the youngest children ever to be convicted of murder in England.
CCTV images revealed how James had been lured away by Thompson and Venables, who was also aged 10.
His body was found two days later on a railway line. He had been stripped from the waist down, paint had been thrown in his eyes and he had been beaten to death with bricks and a metal bar.
In 2001, the pair were released - with new identities
www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-merseyside-46209074
10 MAR 2021
Jon Venables was just 10-years-old when he and Robert Thompson abducted and murdered James Bulger alongside - and now he is back behind bars after being caught with horrific child abuse images
Both were released under strict conditions in 2001 and given new identities, but Venables kept falling foul of the law and was put behind bars once again for more horrific crimes.
Here is what happened to Jon Venables after he was found guilty of murdering James Bulger.
Venables was held at the Red Bank secure unit in St. Helens, Merseyside, which was not revealed until after he had been released.
While inside, Venables received education and rehabilitation while being taught how to conceal his real name and horrifying crime.
He was visited regularly by his parents and was kept at Red Bank for the full eight years because of good progress, despite the facility only being a short-stay remand unit.
The killer walked free in June 2001 with unprecedented lifelong anonymity after a parole board ruled he was no longer a threat to public safety.
Venables was given a new identity with a fabricated passport, qualification certificates and medical records.
He was not allowed to contact Thompson, who was also released at the same time with a new identity
Once free, Venables spent most of his leisure time playing video games and his probation office met a number of girlfriends over the years.
In September 2008 he was arrested on suspicion of affray after a drunken brawl outside a nightclub and was given a formal warning by the probation service.
Venables claimed he was acting in self-defence and the charges were dropped after he agreed to go on an alcohol-awareness course.
Three months later he was given a caution for possession of cocaine after he was found with a small amount of the class A drug.
Venables was caged once again in 2010 after being found with a hoard of horrifying child abuse images on his laptop.
When officers arrived at his flat, Venables was attempting to remove or destroy the hard drive of his computer with a knife and tin opener.
The computer was taken away and 57 indecent images of children over a 12-month period were found.
In July 2010, Venables appeared at the Old Bailey via video link which was only visible to the judge.
He pleaded guilty to charges of downloading and distributing child sex images and was given a sentence of two years in prison.
Venables was given another new identity after a "serious security breach" which could not be reported for legal reasons.
In September 2013, Venables was released from prison after a parole board approved the move two months before.
However, Venables was recalled to prison in November 2017 when he was caught with the sickening child abuse images once again.
The images included category A photos, the most serious type, and he also admitted having a “paedophile manual”.
Venables, who appeared via a video link that only the judge could see, pleaded guilty to possession of indecent images of children for a second time and was sentenced to three years and four months in prison.
Sentencing him to 40 months’ jail in 2018, Mr Justice Edis said: “The children depicted were often very young and vulnerable, there is discernible pain and distress suffered.”
Official figures showed that Venables' attempt to keep his identity secret cost taxpayers more than £65,000.
Lawyers working for him were paid £8,100 in legal aid, with government lawyers working on the case costing an additional £57,300.
New life abroad
In June 2019, it was reported Venables was being assessed for a permanent move to Canada.
It was suggested authorities believed paying for James Bulger’s killer to go to a country like Canada, Australia or New Zealand would be cheaper than funding more failed new starts in the UK.
A source said: “He’s been relocated all over the country a large number of times costing a fortune.
However, New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern issued a short and sharp response to reports Venables could apply to relocate to the country.
"Don't bother," was Jacinda Ardern's message to the child murderer when a local news conference touched on the reports British officials were looking to potentially relocate him to New Zealand.
New Zealand's immigration department had not received any applications from Venables, she told media.
"Of course, because of his existing convictions he would need an exemption... my advice would be 'don't bother applying'."
In October last year, a parole report warned that Venables has an "attraction to sexual violence" and "thinks about sex a lot".
An official Parole Board summary explained why Venables, who was said to use "sex and pornography as a means of coping", was not deemed safe to be released from jail.
www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/james-bulger-killer-jon-venables-23663850
@@kellywilkins9704 thank you for your time and effort in writing ...
More horrific the crime- they lesser punishment.
He could be among us...
Sure they are similar to him...
Can't be rehabed
Should do medical clinical trials...
Only on a criminal...are large amounts of money spent.
Parole board, psychiatrists...crazy...let him lose with their children and grandchildren....
Yeah, like in UK, they changed names of them young kids who murdered young children. That. Should NEVER happen, ever. You did it, you live with your name.
My first thought when I heard that too
These girls were highly intelligent and psychopaths and that is a dangerous combination. When your guidance counselor says that your best talent is manipulation that's a huge red flag. I wonder if they still would have killed their mother had she not had insurance. Probably not.
yeah, they were the result of their upbringing.... parents neglecting or abusing their children should think very well about their future (if they don't care about the future of their children), because it might not look that bright.
@@potocatepetl not that bright is much better than extremely dark
They killed her because she was a terrible mother and was an alcoholic and did not get help. You have obviously never experienced living with an alcoholic
@@fatpinkteddy are you really insinuating that they had a good reason to murder their murder? Because if that's not what you're implying please make it clear what you mean.
@@potocatepetl most kids with negligent parents don't murder anyone including their parents. And they definitely don't brag about it, get caught then continue to brag about fooling their relatives afterwards.
The pyjamas thing was a huge bit of manipulation, "poor defenceless teenage girls not allowed to dress around these intimidating adult men." To even go to court dressed like that reflects they thought it was playing up their vulnerability well.
Welp they lied well - just look at all those morons in the comments lamenting how poor they are and how terrible they mother was...
Makes me feel sick
I sadly never got to meet my aunt as she drowned in the bath before I was born. That was because she had taken opioids and alcohol though. My cousin was 2 at the time and was thankfully in his playpen which he couldn't get out of, or God knows what might have happened to him, as it took 24hours for her to be found. My uncle went to pick up my cousin, as he looked after him during the week, and he had to get police to break down the door to get in and my cousin was screaming his little head off.😥😔💖
There was a movie about this, with Abigail Breslin [little miss sunshine] and Georgie Henley [narnia]. It was pretty good and gave a great insight into the girls emotionally and their codependency. It’s called Perfect Sisters.
That was a great movie
Oh sounds good. Thank you
@@shanereed6650 what was the name of the movie
@@jenniferwilliams3311 perfect sisters🤦♀️🤦♀️
@@diamondsparkle9967 thank you
The strongest case in 30 years: 6 years conviction 😆😆😆
The judge is a joke
It is about the ovaries.
Pathetic.
So disgusting...
The fact that they did not go to jail is very unfair to the mother. She did not deserve to be murdered. She could have been helped.
They did go to jail, but only 6 years, plus 4 in a halfway house then house arrest.
They tried to get her help but no one helped them
No, she didn’t care about her kids. She was trashy. Murder is never the answer but they were teens.
They did go to jail. They got the maximum sentence for juvenile offenders in Canada which is 10 years; 6 years in prison and 4 years of probation.
@Brett That’s not 10 years, that’s 6 years. Probation isn’t punishment, it’s lax supervision.
They treated her autopsy like she was an alcoholic, I mean they didn't test for any drugs just alcohol in her system, and they should wonder why she was face down.
So unfair that the daughters nearly got away with it and then they cop fairly light sentences and get new identities. Seems that perpetrators rehabilitation is the main focus. Beware any unsuspecting husband or child
These Girls were abused by their own mother sbd her lovers. Those Girls needed an oportunity.
Very hard to die in bath unless your a body I'm sure most baths are small your legs would come out of baths I say if your over 5 foot it would be 90 percent hard to drown ....un less some one just by mistake on purpose killed you
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If your head is touching a wall and feet are .....no chance to drown 😈 evils daughters
Its crazy to think that these 2 teenagers very nearly committed a perfect murder .....but just like the Menendez brothers , one couldn't stand keeping it all to himself. Guilt is a strong emotion.
SIX YRS FOR MURDERING MOM THIS IS JUST RIDICULOUS THEY GOT NO SENTENCE AT ALL YELL THEY DID IT FOR THE MONEY
This is so sad! They ended up getting $200,000 after murdering their mother, + still got to receive an education?! Wow!! I hope this sits on their consciences for as long as they’re alive!! I hope they NEVER ever get a peace of mind!
And there’s a movie called “Perfect Sisters” that may be based off this.
I do not think any thing will sit on the conscience of a sociopath.
I was gonna ask if that movie was based off this case its almost exactly the same as the movie
It is based off this.
You can rent the Perfect Sisters movie, right here on You Tube
If they had a conscience they wouldn't have murdered their mother in the first place!
If you commit crimes, you tell NO ONE.
It will catch up eventually
You just did
You basically just confessed indirectly that you've committed crimes. Smart move 😂
The poor mother. What evil and ungrateful daughters.
Poor mother? Really? Not to this extent!
She was a violent alcoholic, who had brought in abusive alcoholic boyfriends to the home. These girls weren’t always 15 and 16 but younger than that during most of the course of their mother’s afflictions.
She was poisoned with her drugs of choice; died peacefully. She often made her daughters prepare alcoholic beverages for her, often took Tylenol and aspirin w/ alcohol too, It’s almost as if she committed assisted suicide or this was a euthanasia case, since a lot of her own voluntary actions, not getting professional help for her alcoholism or making any attempts to recover from it, endangering and abusing both herself and her young daughters; she did work several jobs to provide for her family or in the daughters’ opinion pay for her alcohol addiction, but it’s likely her alcoholism hampered her chances of getting a good pay or good job suited to her potential, acumen and qualifications. They could have called child protective services on her, and since her alcoholism was known, it is probable CPS was called before by the neighbors.
The daughters’ father did pay child support and alimony too; I think.
I think both women feel guilty for their mother’s death even though she could have accidentally overdosed in much the same way; all on her own without them easing her along.
Because she was an alcoholic, that doesn't give her daughters the right to murder their mother.
@@nadiashireensiddiqi stop defending killers.
Bet they got the life insurance. crime does pay, six years and no remorse ?that's a great message to other young people. The law in Canada like Ireland doesn't value human life and the coroner who nearly helped two kids get away with murder should be fired
I agree...her death no doubt payed for their educations...sick as that is
That's 🇨🇦
If they murdered their mother, could the sisters actually collect the insurance money? Isn't there a law in Canada that bars criminals from benefitting from their crime?
Canada has one of the friendliest, murderer-friendliest, most lenient laws. I dont believe in rehabilitation esp if it’s premeditated. The crime is so horrible that they need to serve 6 years of their worthless lives in prison.
One thing that Canada should adopt is longer sentencing for killers, there’s child killers who only serve 25 years which is abysmal
I believe people can be rehabilitated and change their life around. Some should have that second chance at life and what they do with it is up to them. I look past people's crimes they may have committed. I say that cause just because they have been found guilty does not mean that they are guilty of crime
I agree Canada law must be changed… so if your planning to kill … just follow this story!!!! They are just 👿EVIL…these two sisters!!!!! They got a slap on the back and now has a name as the bathroom 🚽 killer….DAM!!!
@@terrencestallings8022 i say i want some of wat ur smoking.thats some good sheet
Six years for premeditated murder? Wow, you’re really tough on crime.
If they had shut up, they'd have got away with murder. Though hard to imagine how someone could live with that for rest of their lives.
Good on that young man who came forward.
RIP that mother😭🙏
There was a case similar to this in Atlanta Georgia. It's kind of spooky
Really? What case is it?
Is it the one with the twins?
They were old enough to leave their “abusive” home and without earning money you have no clue as to its value and you will just end up having some liar stealing it from you. So stupid!
I consider this video as very educative as there's so much to learn on how the police investigate crime. Thank you.
It would be better to see the actual footage. There is one case of a 16 yr old in the states who killed her grandparents; she goes from sweet-innocent to manipulative sociopath in one interview. Seeing that is powerful. We tend to bestow good character on people who remind us of family or friends, are attractive or act innocent.
This case was adapted into a movie called Perfect Sisters starring Georgie Henley and Abigail Breslin as the sisters ...
I saw that movie, its the first thing that came to my mind when I saw this video
Yes, saw it too. It makes you angry at those girls.
I’m going to watch it tonight
Haven’t seen it. Worry these women might be clinically depressed and su***dal even now.
if they didn't brag about the murder they probably would've gotten away with it. chilling really creepy.
What evil girls smh that poor mom had to know what was going on and probably couldn't do anything about it. I pray she's resting in peace 🕊️❤️
That same poor mom would be passed out drunk while witch ever boyfriend she had that night was creeping into her daughter’s bedrooms to rape them! Or sometimes she wouldn’t pick up her little boy from school, so of course her teenage daughters who should’ve been out being teenagers would only to bring him home to their mother on the living room floor drunk being nailed by another guy while in her own vomit!!!! Paying absolutely no mind that her kids just walked in!
Oh yea “poor mom”!!!
the mother is in hell
Unbelievable. Killed their own mother who gave them birth. This world is crazy
I think this story had a movie made out of it... perfect sisters
How could they hate their Mother so much
life insurance?
She was an alcoholic. Some people are sloppy, happy drunks. Others are vicious and/or abusive. If she was the latter, maybe that decided it. And the money was the cherry on the cake.
The girls are psycopatic narcissists. Psychopats kill without discrimination or remorse
Even with pride and tell everyone. Except low enforcement
another poster here says one sister was abused by one of the boyfriends
@@SuperChuckRaney its a lie... They made it up like everything else.
Plus even if they should go after him not the mother - but ofc they didn't wanted revenge they wanted money.
They are two narcissistic psychos that try to leach on human empathy.
If they're greatest skill was in manipulation, whose to say that they didn't fabricate the abuse and severity of drinking? A teenage boy who knew the family felt completed to report the crime...he did not empathise with them, and he knew their mother, too.. if she was as bad as they stated, it would have been noticeable at a general level
She wasn't that bad its made up crap... They just wanted the money
The other cop I.T guy looks like Sylvester Stallone!
It was the OPPOSITE of a PERFECT MURDER because to HAVE an "almost perfect murder", the criminals involved have to be mature and intelligent enough to KEEP THEIR MOUTH SHUT. It wasn't the ONE teen that somehow got them arrested. IT WAS THEIR ABSOLUTE BELIEF THAT THEY WERE INVINCIBLE and UNTOUCHABLE. If that young man didn't say something, someone else would have once they were free of the bonds of peer pressure. They told WAY TOO MANY people to have EVER got away with it permanently. They are evil egomaniacs.
So detailed & fascinating! Terrific show.❤
The late, great singer Charles Bradley said,
'The world is going up in flames and nobody wants to take the blame...'
After watching this and a plethora of true crime stories...I totally agree with him.
May karma, God or both repay these 2 sisters...soon.
😌👍😌
They have both been out of jail for over 10 years now ... SMH
One is a lawyer and the other is a scientist. Not bad after being raised by an abusive, alcoholic mother and her equally abusive husband.
@@d.d.mac.3773 and the Mother working 3 jobs to make sure her kids were provided for and keeping them in school to make sure they did well, or did you forget that part?
@@sandrabentley8111 Or was that to keep booze on her table and the kids out of her hair? The alcoholic abusive parenting outweighs the parts you mention. And don't forget the fact with her chosen parenting style, she raised two murderers, or did you forget that part? They only improved when they were out of her care and that speaks volumes.
@Vash theStampede The girls tried to get help and other agencies and other family members were involved including the CAS. One confided to a priest who was involved and the judge who listened to ALL the evidence remarked that their home was depressing and degrading. There was a reason the judge decided to impose a youth sentence instead of an adult one. Why else would two teens murder a parent? Their mother wasn't strict and she had no money. They wanted the abuse to stop. Next time, perhaps you could do your own research.
@@d.d.mac.3773 Because of the mother’s life insurance!! Two evil ice cold sisters!!
Justice was not served. The punishment was ridiculous. They murdered their mother!
Love these kinds of videos 🙏🏾❤️ 🙏🏾 ❤️Stay safe everyone
While I don’t advocate murder living with an alcoholic parent is no picnic
Could have been no picnic, but we don't know that.
We only know what the 2 murderers tell us
Being drowned by to daughters you trust drunk in bath tub is no picnic either 🙃
I had alcoholic mother - so please don't even TRY to bring up that crap excuse for them.
They wanted insurance money. Thats all
@@moosehead1183 exactly only one side is alive to tell the story
Despicable, evil kids. Sociopathic.
The criminal justice system is way to soft, even though they were convicted, they basically did get away with it. Since their identities were never revealed, they will be able to live happily ever after upon release.
I have never understood the concept that children are those sacred beings that should be shielded by laws when doing horrible acts like murder but are treated differently just because the date of their birth. If one chooses to set foot on the stage of murder you should be in the spotlight of the general public no matter the age of the killer to show what their true character is made of. The argument that a brain of a child is not fully developed, they will change when becoming an adult and that they got a whole life still before them is just a slap in the face of the victim(s) and their family and friends. In this case in particular, none involved show any sign of remorse, no shred of empathy just selfishness. Do you think they will be released as fine upstanding human beings, changed by the time served, maybe after years of "therapy"?! The chance they will kill again is highly likely and by protecting their identity they can kill with the grace of the justice system/law.
I think the purpous is to protect children who kill out of self defeance or by accident. Say a child is *actually* abused (and not what happened here) and killed their parent out of self defence, or they were pressured by someone older. That is in No Way what happened here, they did this on their own for purly selfish reasons, but I think people like in the two examples I gave are who they are meant to protect. The laws should most definetly be changed tho, make sentances lighter for kids who are *proven* to have a valid reason, or, again *proven*, to have simply made an accident (i.e. accidently firing a gun). The laws are to easily abused in cases like this.
@@oddballsoddities9785 as the laws allowing children to be charged as adults are too often abused by overzealous prosecutors looking to charge a 12 year old who found his parents gun and accidentally shoots his brother and charge the 12 year old as an adult and sentence them to life in order to help fill our FOR PROFIT PRISON SYSTEM....Your right about laws needing to be changed, but here in the U.S. the entire justice system needs a complete overhaul.
@@TheMattc999 Yeah, it really does. As a person living in the US it's *very* shitty
@@oddballsoddities9785 In this case however, it would seem that the children were abused ( globalnews.ca/news/7458803/bathtub-girl-exclusive-interview/ ). Whether this justifies murder is another issue, but it certainly seems to be more morally complicated than this TV program and a lot of comments here make it out to seem.
How does protecting their identity provide motivation to kill or protect them from the consequences of reoffending. They could easily change their names anyway and live next door to anyone.
Here is why I think they didn't do the toxicology test and why it would not have made a difference if they had. If they tested her blood and found the Tylenol or any other drug, they would have thought she was simply abusing drugs just like she abused alcohol.
The reason they did the test later is because someone came forward with evidence to corroborate the story that the daughters did murder their mother using Tylenol as a tool.
Moral of the story: If you want to commit the perfect homicide, don't tell thirty thousand people about it. Intelligent people apparently don't necessarily have common sense.
That’s not intelligent, that’s stupidity🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️🤔
I'm appalled that real crimes and those involved in this opened /shut obvious crime are soo incompetent in their investigations,findings and reporting this ridiculous investigation..WTF..what a joke..should be ashamed of how wack they have handled this case and those who they don't choose to seek true justice for...purely disgusting..
Intelligent people dont talk much...they're not that intelligents
They should still be in jail.
Government couldn't do that they will be wasting money let them out fast stop spending
The two actresses that played the Sisters did such a good job! I really disliked them by the end. I wouldn't believe one word the real ones have said since they murdered their Mother. They are narcissistic.
The scene where they basically force-fed her drugs got to me.
No they’re psychopaths.
By end I hated from start .2 sisters ????
Also hoight
That sister with the awkward side ponytail? Now *that’s* a crime 🥴🥴🥴
But then she had a triple pigtails when in the car with the informant. It was really really weird!
The ponytails pisses me off
Scary! And they virtually got away with it. At the age of 21-2 they’ll be ‘wiser’ and try it again. Just evil.
it happened in 2003 - 2004. They are long time out. They were released from custody in 2010, and then, they had to serve 4 years at home. In 2014, they were completly released. The one was even allowed to finish the school. There is article about them, just search bathtub girls. There is also a photo of them at time of release. Even in that article from 2014, they were in mid 20's. So now, they have to in mid 30's. As they were born around 1987.
Two teenagers could have pulled the mother out if they really wanted to. She's not just anyone, she's their mother. The fact that they left her in the tub is very suspicious.
Blood doesn't mean nothing if you do not have a connection?
I thought same thing . Cause if I walk in on something like that I am going to try my damnedest to get her out
that's the whole point, they didn't want to.
The first red flag for me was that the mother was found lying face down in the bath. How does someone fall face down? What evil girls. Poor mother. Luckily their male friend contacted the police and helped them catch these evil teenagers.
That's what I thought.
Agree spot on
She wasn't swimming at beach
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Did the life insurance company sue for fraud?
Well they can’t be that smart if they are on a computer talking about their crime.
They did a great job at keeping this under wraps since it happened only a half from my city,while I was younger then (in high school) I have’t heard about this until now.
Bragging about something they did and with them being manipulative could be signs that they are narcissistic. Mental Evaluation would’ve done more time with out chance of trial
My mother tried to kill me a few times with various objects, I never wanted to hurt her back. No matter what she said, no matter how badly I wanted to die to escape it, I never hurt her. I planned revenge by leaving as soon as I was 18. The closest I ever got to retaliation was at age 18 trying to leave for good, she swung at me and I slammed the door in her face and left a very very large human sized hole in it.
Sadly , I hope that's true .
I ended up being the one who let my mother live with me while she was on home health and Hospice care. I wasn't mean to her . I just didn't love her and she knew it .
@Benjamin Franklin man It's no lie that there are mothers like that though .
@Google head patricide and infanticide have existed all throughout human history, so much that it's a theme in all sorts of legends and mythology in cultures around the world, I mean think how much baby killing the bible has in it. And then if you want patricide Ancient Greek drama has you covered haha. Its not exclusive to modern times. It's awful but it's been with humanity all along
@@jenniehughes6927 There's a saying that goes "you cannot choose your parents but what is far worse is when your parents do not choose you."
My mother was very cruel and abusive and told me she wanted me to commit suicide and MANY other horrible things. I suffered my whole life because of her, my evil father and sisters, etc, etc. I took the punishment out on myself.
As far as I'm concerned, by the age of 16 the personality of a human being is absolutely formed. These girls knew exactly what they were doing and why, and also they actually got away with murder. I guess it's not the last time they kill.
Are you kidding? I certainly hope I'm a different person than I was at 16! Kids do stupid things especially if they don't have anyone to teach them the right way and have to learn on their own. I'm not defending them because what they did was terrible but I do believe kids can be rehabilitated if given the proper guidance.
@@Bettinasisrg I'm not kidding, that's what they actually taught us at medical college. But, surely, to some extent the rehabilitation is possible.
@@marastrega I've never been to med school so I'm sure you know more about it than me, but was this physiologically or intellectually or emotionally or all 3? I can only speak to my experience but I've changed a lot since 16 in many ways.
@@Bettinasisrg This about the psychological basis of personality
Human psychology is very different at 16 than as an adult.
...six years?...
...walk free in their mid twenties?...
...they DID get away with it...
I can't believe they only got 10 yrs.!!! Smh I hope they took the life insurance payout away...
They must both be narcists. I feel sorry for their relationships of all kinds.