So Close To Home: The Murder Of Rachel Moran
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- čas přidán 26. 08. 2024
- For many, New Year's Eve is a chance to say goodbye to the previous year and ring in the upcoming one with those nearest and dearest; for 21-year-old Rachel Moran, this was no different. She set off back to her flat, which was less than a mile away, and told her mother she would call as soon as she got in. But as the hours ticked by, that call never came. Before long, it became the biggest search operation ever undertaken by Humberside Police as everyone was left wondering - what had happened to Rachel Moran?
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Cases like this leave me fuming. Just a woman doing her thing, walking home (reason does not matter) and then get murdered. It hits home, I hate it with a passion, we ALL should be able to walk wherever whenever
Well, obviously. But there are dangerous and unpredictable elements living among us.
@stimpgimpson1206 she means for women particularly. Men are the predators
As horrid as it is we have to keep ourselves safe and not have these absurd expectations that we will be safe without using caution.
I feel bad, I am a large man and I walk around my city, airpods in, day or night, unconcerned with anyone around me.
I feel bad at times, I walk past a woman or girl, and often feel the anxiety. Occasionally I can feel it building when they're still far away, just afraid of what might happen.
I make eye contact with everyone I pass when I am out, but under those kinds of conditions I try to look and smile then look back away quickly, it feels like the most reassuring thing to do, don't want to like, challenge them by looking long. Which i dont do to anybody, but still. And try to give a wide berth, not get into anyone's space.
It makes me feel bad though, I am pretty and a happy and kind person so in other conditions, nobody finds me threatening. But out on the street, there's a vulnerability people feel there, it's sad that the world is like this.
@buttlord4204. You're very sensitive and that's a good sign. So sorry but your yt handle is cracking me up. Is that why women need not fear you?
The timing of all this is just incredible. A mother and daughter standing outside of the mother's house where the mother is pleading with her daughter not to walk home alone at that hour. And while this conversation is taking place, the very type of evil person the daughter would want to avoid on her walk home happens to be walking by and overhears this conversation. So sad.
right..........the unfortunate timing of this horrific crime
So many times I wish the daughter listened to her mother. It happens too often
Right?! A complete series of unfortunate events. 😢
@@robintam8222the Swiss cheese model.
@@IceHaxwhat does that mean?
I totally doubted that “she went into his house for a drink.”
His bizarrely designed beard should be proof of that.
I don’t believe she wanted go into his house for a drink!! She was forced most likely already got hurt in the public place. If you were kidnapped, you should try everything to avoid to go with the bad guys into private places, cause you will left with no choice but got hurt or even die
Why did he run up behind her? Of course she didn't go willingly that's why she had mud all over her he dragged her in
she was so close to home. this breaks my heart, she was just trying to get home to her kittens and this monster took her life. rip rachel.
This and Sally Anne Bowman. Horrible . May they rest peacefully.
I am so sorry for her parents losing 2 daughters in such tragic ways.
If you killed someone in self-defense, you would be calling the police right away. he is a liar. There was no self defense it was murder.
Well obviously.
Eh, yeah.... that was evident from the video that we ALL watched !
No shit, Sherlock
true. also why would a woman on her way home suddenly change her mind and go with a random strange man at night and then attack him for no reason? most women are rightfully scared when they get approached by men at night when no one is around to help in case something happens and sure as hell wouldn't go with them consensually. that's not a thing that happens regularly and already sounds like something only a man could make up.
This channel is one of the best Crime Dramas. Always narrated without emphasis and easy listening, though the content is usually very sad. Monsters are everywhere, many dressed up as normal people. RIP Rachel, may the Angels give you wings to fly
Try Irish coffee true crime. She is another good narrator with interesting stories.
Them not charging him with Ray because I didn’t know if she was dead or alive is disgusting and doesn’t matter. It doesn’t matter if she was dead or alive. He still raped her dead body if she was dead and should be charged.
They could not change him if they couldn't prove when it happened. If it happened after death, then legally it's no longer rape.
Wow! Really?? I find that very difficult to believe.
In any case it's "desecration of a corpse", which holds serious legal consequences too@@eadweard.
@@adambane1719 Exactly. Maybe they just don't care in the UK. Do whatever you want to dead bodies.
Disgusting.
@adambane1719 they prob can't charge him with r4pe AND descreation of corpse and be taken seriously in court though I feel tossing her in a cupboard should suffice for desecration of a corpse
@@adambane1719 Well I can't account for you finding it difficult to believe. Anyway, the OP just asked why there wasn't a rape charge - and I told her.
People commenting " all for cats" 🙄 for cats or just because she wanted to go home it doesn't matter she should have been able to get home safely!! she sounds like a good person and her not wanting to leave her kittens alone and going to make sure they was ok shows that, im sure she didn't see this being the outcome of that! im sorry she didn't make it home to them and even more sorry for her family
It's typically more sensible to act according to how the world _is_ - rather than to how the world _should be_ .
@@eadweard. this kinda makes sense, but what if One doesn't know how the world is? some People have not seen bad things happen or had them happen in their Lives, and They are overly trusting. -I know I was. regards.
@@wolfrahmphosphoros5808one can even experience bad things and think you'll be fine walking a mile home
100%! Plus, most people who have animals would do the same thing. For most people pets are family and you love them as much (or more sometimes) as you do people. Anyone who doesn't feel that way towards their pets shouldn't have pets.
@@lindseyhudson1274i love all my animals but even I know they can be by themselves for a few hours.
Rest in peace, Rachel. You were a beautiful woman with an incredible heart and loved cats. You were LOVED
*ARE Loved !
@@adambane1719 YES!
Breaks my heart how She was in so much Fear and excruciating Pain even knowing "I'm going to die" and pleading with the (THING) that did this.
He was stalking her… wouldn’t be surprised if he held her at knife point… He’s a predator and a pathological liar!! His stories are ridiculous!! 😠.. and should NEVER be on the streets again!! I pray for her beautiful soul and her poor family and all those who love her 💔💔🙏🏻🙏🏻
I think he was stalking her as well.
We should be able to walk home, it's not dangerous being in the dark, men who hunt and hurt us are the danger. Educate boys, keep women safe!
Do you really think you can "educate" psychopaths?
Exactly this!💯
Women need to take responsibility for their own actions, especially putting themselves in dangerous situations, like walking alone down dark alleys at 2am in the morning !
@@adambane1719 what about a dark alley is dangerous?
It may be slippy, so shoes with grips maybe? Is that what you mean?
@@adambane1719 says something about you eh
I run a cat rescue.
I just got home from a NYE party and am listening to this as I'm changing in preparation to head back out to go feed the kittens we have in care at a nearby house.
I only had a couple of drinks but I do not really want to risk driving.
I also cannot help but feel this is a sign telling me not to walk (even though it's only about a kilometre away).
So at the moment I am not quite sure what to do.
It is now 2024 and it is despicable that women still cannot walk alone without fear of being attacked. We are mocked for "overreacting" until something terrible happens to us, and then we are blamed and told we "should have known better".
This has to stop.
We as a society have to do better.
Edited to add:
It is so weird that there are multiple comments in this thread from people who are assuming the kittens in her care did not need to be fed because of their presumed age etc.
Not only is that incredibly presumptuous, it is also missing the point and perpetuating the victim-blaming narrative.
The kittens I need to feed are about 10 weeks old (we do not know their exact age because like most of the cats we take in, they are from the streets). Kittens their age should be self-sufficient, but these little ones are getting over a serious illness.
My Christmas weekend was spent syringe-feeding them and giving them subcutaneous fluid injections and monitoring them around the clock. I did not celebrate. I did not go see family. I did not open gifts. I gave them everything I had and I successfully brought them back from the brink.
It has been a week of hell and I was finally able to go out tonight for a couple of hours and spend much-needed time with friends and colleagues. (If you work in the animal welfare industry, you know how important self-care is and how little of it we allow ourselves.)
In this case, they *do* in fact need to be fed and weighed and medicated on a frequent basis. When you run a street cat rescue, this is not the exception to the rule.
I am probably okay to drive because I have only had a couple of drinks and that was hours ago. So should I get behind the wheel and put the lives of other people at risk? Or should I walk and put my own life at risk? Or should I forgo the feeding and medication and put the kittens' lives at risk?
This is not a decision I should have to weigh up so heavily. I should just be able to walk and feel safe. Full stop.
I hope everything went well.
Thank you for taking care of the kitties ❤
Yeah, so many people just assuming that there was absolutely no good reason to worry about the kittens and she could go to sleep 100% certain in their well being.
I can think of multiple reasons for her concern just off the top of my head.
And, statistically, I bet there was a higher chance that something would go wrong with the kittens, compared to the chance that she'd actually be murdered while walking home. Considering the number of women who still manage to walk home safely every night and the number of issues kittens can have.
(I know where I live that there's still a higher likelihood my dog will die when I'm gone, than me getting murdered, period - much less specifically murdered while walking home.)
You’re a great person, and thank you for caring for the precious kitties ❤❤
Women should be able to walk alone without the risk of being harmed. What about those who work late at night? It’s crazy how people criticize adult females for exercising a basic right.
I wish we lived in a world without predators too, but we don't so you tell me how we protect women from these people? If I walked out into a lions den, I wouldn't be shocked if I got eaten alive. Do you see what I mean?
Because with 'freedom'' comes responsiblity.
Just because you 'can', doesn't mean you should.
Wisdom must be applied in all things.
Is it really the right job for her, if she has to work late at night? Probaby not.
The world doesn't work like that. To think everyone should be able to walk around with impunity is childish.
If men can't control themselves they shouldn't be allowed out after dark.
Same goes with men not just women.
People blaming the victim and her boyfriend are just ridiculous. Rachel's murder is solely the fault of the monster who took her life. The boyfriend was irresponsible and went out when he wasn't supposed to but it doesn't make him a murderer. People make mistakes and on this case he made a stupid one. If he knew this would get her killed, he wouldn't have gone out so all you blaming him act like you haven't done anything wrong in your lifetime. Rachel have the right to walk home as we all have and we never think we'll be in danger especially if it's just a few blocks away so give me a break with your high and mighty stance🙄
It's wrong to blame her for the murder. But it's perfectly appropriate to blame her for making an irrational and irresponsible decision.
Would never blame this poor girl - she was compensating for the failure of her boyfriend to care for the kittens.
@@eadweard.she didn’t make any of those , so..
Eh, walking all alone down dark alley ways at 2am in the morning is NOT a responsible decision, Malina@@malina1239
@@eadweard.Your comment is sick and disgusting predator apologist b.s.
This is truly one of the saddest cases I have ever heard of.
These cases annoy the hell out of me! What a stupid decision! Rejected twice, "Urrr I'll kill someone...." Grow up!
Clearly damaged from an early age many factors come in to play that makes a man feel entitled to someones time and body. Hope hes having a bad time in jail
White men seem prone to psychopathy than most.
@@mamacito1795 the only damage needs to be from patriarchy. Most men have, at some point, felt entitled to sex. It may have been something simple like a birthday bj or something messed up like this, but a man's right to sex is implicit aspect of the patriarchy.
@@mamacito1795 doesn’t mean you should continue a bad cycle. If he wants to live in squalor, fine but don’t bring anyone else into the situation.
20 years ago this family went through every parents, sibling and friends nightmare. I am also sorry they lost Vanda. What a sad story.
Typical incel, gets rejected one time to many and can't understand why no one wants him, and of course put the blame on Rachel. He'd been fantasising for god knows how long, her rejection was too much for him.
Women need to take responsibility for their own actions, especially putting themselves in dangerous situations, like walking alone down dark alleys at 2am in the morning !
They have zero accountability. They don't look at women and girls as human, they're creepy, they're gross, they have bad hygiene and no life skills, yet they think they're entitled to a companion for whom they will improve nothing. This MFker really thought that a woman should want to bang him on top of his trash pile.
That's how they think. Are they just on another plane of existence to us mentally to where their insanity makes sense? It would seem so.
@@adambane1719found the incel. That didn't take long. Jfc.
@@adambane1719Milly Dowler was abducted in broad daylight whilst walking home from school. Perhaps men should seek help for their uncontrollable urges instead of looking for opportunities to take out their anger on women. Women should be able to walk freely regardless of the time of day and not have to worry about being abducted, raped and murdered. Victim blaming is disgusting and had it not been Rachel, it likely would've been some other poor girl.
@@Sati1979 Once again, a woman here that can't take responsibility for her own actions..... especially putting themselves in dangerous situations, like walking alone down dark alleys at 2am in the morning !
Michael's filthy apartment must have smelled horrific for his friend and the two officers not to have known that poor girl had been murdered and stored in that closet for nearly a month.
What a devastating case. She was so close to her home. Thanks for your great content. Hi from Melbourne Australia.
First thought - how was that actually 21 years ago 🙈thank you for your sensitivity in covering these stories as always ❤Happy New Year and best wishes for 2024 x
I am always so disgusted at how murderers treat a human after death
Well, they murdered them. They weren't concerned with the victims when they were alive, they're certainly not going to be concerned with them when they are dead.
This breaks my heart... But I keep coming back to these videos because your narration is wonderful.
What difference does it make if someone is dead or live ? Rape is rape.
Not legally.
Right, the whole sentence sounded odd, murder and rape are two seperate charges.
@@Preppie-thirty There was no rape, legally speaking, if she was dead at the time.
@@eadweard. I guess the charge would be defiling a dead body...asuming she was dead before he raped her, whatever you call it its still rape.
@@Preppie-thirty Yes you are right. It would be "interfering with a corpse" or something like that.
Going to be a sad story, but it's great hearing a non-AI voice and fantastic writing. Thanks guys. Happy New Years ~
(Oh it gets dark...)
Non ai? Who has ai voices?
@@Jlockjammers217 AI bots. U new to the planet?
Oh my goodness- YES!! I’m so glad to be able to enjoy both great storytelling and the warm, kind human voice that narrates!! Thank you so much for your always excellent work!!! ❤
@LiquidSnakeOuterHeavenmy husband said the narrator from EWU is an AI. I didn't know that was a thing. Whose channel is an AI? Just curious, I just want to listen so I can compare.
I agree, I get annoyed at AI generated voicing 😣
Once again, a man who can't take no for an answer...😡😡😡
Once again, a woman here that can't take responsibility for her own actions..... especially putting themselves in dangerous situations, like walking alone down dark alleys at 2am in the morning !
@@adambane1719 Once again, a man here trying to tell that rape and murder is the victim's fault because women should only leave the house when it's not dark. Like bad things happen only at night. Thing is, the only person who put someone in a dangerous situation is the psychopath murderer.
@@adambane1719 so you mean if you walk home alone at night you deserve to be murdered. Wow, no wonder why 99% killers are men with this mindset.
@@evelinszabo6562 Women like you are constantly blaming others for their negative situations. Women need to take responsibility and STOP putting themselves into those situations. These "situations" dont just magically happen by themselves you know.
@@adambane1719 I only blame the murderer, you blame the victim without reasons. Women are being abducted/raped/murdered in broad daylight, in their home etc. Like I said, bad things doesn't happen only at night and only in the streets and only when you're alone. And we all know "these situations don't magically happen by themselves", yes they happen because of the psychos among us. And honestly the "women like you" part of your comment is rather revealing and pathetic. Try not making it personal and bring some reasons instead.
Another classic example of a lad with a tough paper round - ironically named Micky Little, looking 43 when he's 23. Still at least he's getting all the action he craves now in prison. Long may it continue.
ikr, all that hate ages people, see it over and over in these types of channels. I got 20 years on him and save for the color of my hair alone, I look younger
Im from, and still live in Hull. I was just touching my teens when this awful night happened, and it had a huge impact on my parents' protectiveness over myself and my sisters. Im now in my 30s, and I still have to call or message to let them know i'm safe. We all remember following this case, watching the reconstruction, and praying Rachel would be found safe. It was a sad and scary time
I hate those who victim blame, she
Ought to be safe walking alone
Yes, she ought, but that's the world we live in. And it's not victim blaming but a call for some sensibility!
Only females live an alternative world where there are no bad guys out there. Men in general are much wiser when it comes to self protection even though men are attacked more often than females. Also if you have ever voted liberal which we know many feminists do then you are directly responsible for creeps like this walking the streets. Most are repeat offenders due to insane liberal policies. I see it everyday in my city.
@@ElaAusDemTal it is a complicated form of victim blaming though, as in it should be a victim who should be more sensible and not the person who killed or harmed her. I mean think about it, no one who’s a victim of theft would be told it’s sensible to not bring anything with you, people can have no issues accepting that it’s the thief who has full responsibility but why is it that when women who are harmed/killed it’s then an issue of “she should be more sensible”
You're an excellent narrator. Thank you for telling the stories of so many women who weren't left with a voice.
It's so sad that in this world a woman can't walk anywhere by herself.i feel so sad for the family soo much loss 💔. 💔
I am glad I discovered Truly Criminal this year. All the hard work & excellent narration are greatly appreciated. Happy New Year!
What a conscientous, caring cat mom! R.i.p Rachel!
I see the victim blamers are alive and well on this thread! 🤮
Yup! I can’t believe it’s 2024 and people still think it’s okay to put the same amount of blame on a woman just living her life as the monster who killed her.
A Great True Crime Channel 😁 Happy New Year fellow fan's from Ireland 🇮🇪
Top o the morning to you. How are your potatoes going?
He wasn't charged with rape because they didn't know if she were dead or alive at the time. WHAT?!!! What possible difference would that make. Rape is rape no matter.
It was the same in another case this channel has covered from the US. A student killed his teacher and assaulted her with a tree branch but they took that out of the sentencing because "well we don't know if she was dead or alive at that point" wtf?🤦🏻♀️ Like you said, rape is rape
Apparent is not consider "rape" if it was a dead body and not a human being 🤦♂️
That's a hard-looking 23 years old. But then demons don't age like humans.
no such thing as a demon in science
The boyfriend may not have done it but he sounds like a real prize.
Yes he was a selfish tosser - and she was an irrational idiot. So perhaps they deserved one another.
One cannot expect of a Person in his/her 20s or 30s to just stay Home for new year's eve when an opportunity arises to go to his/her Friend's party, don't be ridiculous vilifying Him for that. He was a young Person, and going to a party ain't a crime. Cats could stay on their own. regards.
@@wolfrahmphosphoros5808I mean you can expect them to if that’s what they said they’ll do…? If you don’t wanna stay in and watch the kittens then don’t agree to stay in and watch the kittens?
Immaturity, at that age especially there's such a massive gulf between where most women are, and where most young men are
he was just immature, im sure he's regretting his choices that night even tho he's not at faulyt
This is my favorite channel…grateful for all of your hard work!
😢😢 so sorry all you was doing was walking home to look after you cats. 😢
It doesnt matter what she was doing. Get a grip !
@@adambane1719it’s you who needs to get a grip. You’ve commented under almost every comment where people are expressing anger at an innocent woman being murdered. It doesn’t matter what she was doing - the point is that a man thought he had the right to end her life. It was not her fault. You seem like an angry and unreasonable person.
I love your channel. You don't over dramatize but put forward a clear and precise narration. I used to think I was weird liking true crimes but it's so fascinating and is one of the biggest viewing genre's on Netflix. However comments never change. She shouldn't have walked alone been the one voiced the most, Hindsight is a wonderful thing but she did nothing wrong us females do not rape and murder ourselves. Yet every time the blame is put on the victim. I remember when the Yorkshire Ripper was at large and all women were put on a curfew. Females up and down the country came out in solidarity with the movement claiming back the night. Same argument put forward we don't murder ourselves. Morgan St Jean brought out a song called Not all Men and it is a powerful song.
first verse and Chorus.
Have you ever walked a little faster
After midnight when you're all alone?
Have you ever pulled your jacket tighter
While pretending that you're on the phone?
Have you ever held your tongue
When someone tried to call you "baby"?
If you say a word, he's gonna call you crazy
Well, I have and she has, too
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We all know that it's not all men
We all know that it's not all men
But it's some of them
So we hold our breath, baby nonetheless
Until they stop blaming the females for something they had no hand in. Nothing will change
Man hating channels are a growing problem on YT !
Women need to take responsibility for their own actions, especially putting themselves in dangerous situations, like walking alone down dark alleys at 2am in the morning ! @@whoarewe7515
@@whoarewe7515she’s not on the same level as Truly criminal (and I’m irish)
Well, this story sucks.
How about we take a moment to appreciate the cat name 'Speedy Tomato'?
How about you work on your capacity for empathy in 2024?
It's never too late to stop being a Muppet !
Right!?!
Great story telling as always. The voice is so soothing and the compassion you add is fab. Thank you
Happy New Year to all off you truly criminal fans. Love from Bulgaria ❤
Thank you, happy new year.❤ from Canada
Hi Bulgaria and Canada 👋😀. Happy New Year ❤ from Scotland.
@@tbug8470 Love the Scottish accent!!!
@@loveforeignaccents thank you 😊❤️🏴
@@tbug8470 happy new year love. Hope you all have a great year xoxo
Well done telling her story. Hope everyone has a Happy, Safe, & Positive New Year!!
Again a man who can not take no as an answer....
Women need to take responsibility for their own actions, especially putting themselves in dangerous situations, like walking alone down dark alleys at 2am in the morning !
@@adambane1719stop being ridiculous 🤦🏼♀️ put the blame on HIM for not controlling his urges.
@@TaylorM6668The blame is on him but whinging that we ‘should’ be able to walk around alone at night does not negate the fact that it’s dangerous and we shouldn’t do it.
@@c.o3301 I never said that & I agree but the blame is on him for sure.
Women need to take responsibility for their actions Taylor @@TaylorM6668
The grief & emptiness her family specially her mother has been and still going through is too much just to imagine. A nightmare which is never going to end. A young & beautiful soul Rachel. Rest in peace.
It was nobody’s fault BUT HIS. NOBODY BUT HIS 🤬
Women need to take responsibility for their own actions, especially putting themselves in dangerous situations, like walking alone down dark alleys at 2am in the morning !
@@adambane1719 OHH 💩 YOUR MOUTH
@@adambane1719how does taking responsibility for walking alone at 2 a.m. equate to being brutally murdered?
Women are constantly blaming others for their negative situations. Women need to takke responsibility and STOP putting themselves into those situations. These "situations" dont just magically happen by themselves you know. @@eleanor8256
@@adambane1719🤡
I’m a sixth form student in year 13 doing an EPQ about forensic science and criminal investigation. This case broke my heart and so I wanted to use this as an example for one of the most tragic cases I have seen. My EPQ will be a dedication to Rachel Moran to spark up the memory of her and make sure her case is known in the UK as well as her legacy.
RIP Rachel Moran. You will be missed greatly. Your dedication to feeding the kittens meant that you were a compassionate individual.
How many times do we hear she was just walking home? This case is now 21 years ago yet infuriatingly absolutely nothing has changed. We're still hearing about girls going missing, being attacked, raped or murdered because they were just walking home all these years later. Yet we're still blaming the women, how dare they walk after dark, when they've been drinking, alone, dressed provocatively, or just walk anywhere anytime alone! This toxic mindset needs to stop.
Who's blaming the women? You need to get rid of your anti-male complex.
@@chucksmanhood3074the cases of men killing men and men killing women is much higher than say women killing men or women killing women at least in the UK
Women need to take responsibility for their own actions, especially putting themselves in dangerous situations, like walking alone down dark alleys at 2am in the morning !
@@adambane1719 This is the mindset I'm talking about.. I used to work shifts, hospital shifts, no night buses, they stopped running after a certain time. I'd get a lift for most of my journey but still had to walk part the way home. My family worried so much they helped towards my driving lessons I was taking at the time & also picked me up on the night's I didn't have a ride at all. I was lucky, I had support, many working nights, shifts don't! Don't assume females are just wondering around the streets at 2am in dark alleys for the fun & are irresponsible, some are doing it to work in places that save lives, to keep a roof over their family, it's not cut n dry. The fact we're even discussing this in 2024 about why a woman can't walk anywhere at anytime for any reason instead of what we can do to make it safe for us to do such an mundane task is sad. Also you do realize attacks happen in daylight hours too, in the home, on public transport.
@@chucksmanhood3074 just read @adambane1719 , just one example!
my heart hurts for this family as they lost two daughters, and the guilt the mother must have
Thank you for the way you presented this case. The narrating was awesome! Isn't it so sad that women can't go anywhere alone?
yes no matter what age, women are targets for misogynist males who have violent sex fantasies and urges
I fall asleep to Truly Criminal and Just Thought Lounge every morning after night shift. You've both got such wonderful diction and great calming, narrative voices!
The amount of subtle and outright victim blaming is nauseating.
Are you referring to the narrator of this video? I didn’t pick up any victim blaming whatsoever. She always speaks of the victims in the most compassionate and respectful way possible.
@@annsu77I think the comment was referencing all the victim blaming throughout all the comments
Victim blaming is a morally idiotic concept. It's perfectly appropriate to blame someone - victim or otherwise - for something they have genuinely done wrong.
@@eadweard.K
Women need to take responsibility for their own actions, especially putting themselves in dangerous situations, like walking alone down dark alleys at 2am in the morning !
Her boyfriend couldn't give a damn about the kittens and he didn't seem to give a damn about his dead girlfriend either.. What a prize
Calm the fuck down. You don't know him. How do you want him to act when questioned by the police? Maybe being 'blase' is his way of dealing with the situation. Others may be crying, hysterical etc... Everyone will react different in that situation. No offence, the kittens can go bugger off.
How boyfriend said after court that his biggest regret was she was taken and he didn't say goodbye - how about his biggest regret should have been his putting her in the position of needing to go home to check the kittens because his irresponsible self didn't a) bother to feed them or look after them as agreed and b) couldn't be bothered to tell her he hadnt/wasnt going to do it, so she could have gone home earlier where it was safer or before her mum had had the drink that prevented her driving?
There’s no way he was 23 years old! 😳
He’s pure monstrosity
New years eve doesn't have the feel to me that it should....new year new me and all that, not for me, too much misery and people doing the unthinkable, the world has become a horrible place at times. rest in peace sisters.
When I was 21 my best friend was killed by a drunk driver walking home on Hogmanay (new year eve). It has definitely lost its shine since then and that was 13 years ago x
@@christinacowan7644 sorry for your loss and how it still makes you feel...wishing you all the best...what ever that means ❤
There is no religious book that tells people to celebrate the New Year's eve. Perhaps there's some wisdom in it.
@@phillipproussier3723huh?
Coincidentally watching this on the 28th of January, exactly 21 years after Rachel was found, and it’s chilling. You didn’t deserve this Rachel, you should still be here.
Thank you for treating the victim with respect.
Everyone, please ignore the trolls trying to get a rise out of you. This monster should have been charged with R regardless of WHEN that crime occurred.
God bless Rachel and her family.
A loss like this is a loss for all of us. We need to make this world safe for women to walk at anytime of day and in any weather condition. The problem is opportunist scumbags who think they can tell when a woman is vulnerable, and that that equals an opportunity for them.
Let’s be real, if women are not safe, then none of us are safe. If you depend on self defense as a man, then you’re sadly mistaken because, when a woman is attacked by one depraved man, then it’s most likely that as a man, you would be attacked by several men who are armed, simply because they want to render your self defense useless.
I’m truly sorry to Rachel’s family, it’s a loss for all of us 😢. It might be a murder that happened over 20 years ago but it still matters. Thank you for bringing us this story, Truly Criminal 🙏🏾❤️
Why do the creeps always LOOK like creeps? It should just be a stereotype, but they ALWAYS look like such creeps!
This dude looks at least 40..
Who cares?
@@eadweard. who dares
@@Harris665 Cannot tell what you are trying to say.
@@eadweard. the killer doesn’t look in his early 20’s.. Jesus bet you’re fun at parties
@@Harris665 Well this is a video about the murder of a young lady. Such things aren't typically conducive to a party atmosphere.
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Ew, this guy is gross 🤢 how dare he? 🤬
😔😔😔man this whole story is a tragedy. This New Year's, please be safe out there everyone.
At 11:00 "Barmston Drain: this was a canal that was often used by people to dump rubbish in" ... Wow, I didn't know that the UK was so primitive and savage. 🤦♂
You should see what they dump in rivers in other countries.
@@eadweard. I know what they dump in other countries. I live in Western Europe and there is nothing like that in here.
@@phillipproussier3723 How do you know?
@@eadweard. Just like how the narrator in this video knew what they dumped in Barmston Drain in the UK. It's a public knowledge there and it's a public knowledge here.
@@phillipproussier3723 You'd need to be more specific really.
Happy New Year & thank you for the hard work you and your sister put into this channel. Lots of love from Malaysia!
I feel bad for her mom almost shouting to him walk with her but as a mom if my child is walking alone and I see someone behind , I’d tell them wait til they are out of sight instead of walk together.
Orchard Park is not a quiet suburb of Hull 😂
It’s one of the largest council estates in the country!
Yeah someone who said they drank at the same pub as her or something said it is a nasty area
@@buttlord4204 where the pub is was fine, it’s the area she lives in that was 30 mins walk away - crime and poverty central.
Have you been?
@@Tricky181 yes and it’s a pretty horrible place.
So anyone should be able to walk anywhere without fear .
How the hell did it take them 9 hours to find this pos guilty.
Happy New year and many blessings to everyone for a great and successful year to come. Thank you for the story and such a great job delivering this sad story and helping us remember such a beautiful person. So sad she lost her life. But as a mother myself I could have never went to bed without a word from my daughter first or i would have took her home or got her dad to have took her home i would have figured some way to see her home safe especially after seeing a man walk by and it also being dark and a holiday. So sad it ended that way.
i can’t imagine the guilt her mother must hold to this day. the fact she even mentioned ‘ur father would be angry if he let me leave u to walk alone’ .. so sad. u never expect something to happen till it does. rest in peace rachel and blessings to her family.
poor girl. god rest her soul.
Happy New Year 2024 to everyone here. May it bring you all that you desire and wish for. God bless one and all. ❤🙏
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She never went back For a drink He forced her 😔 So Sad 💔 RIP Rachel 🤍
Am I alone in thinking this is the most exquisite narrating female voice in all of true crime?
Another brilliant video. Happy New Year to Truly Criminal and may 2024 be full of blessing and joy. Happy New year everyone!
What a monster.
I hate stories like this. My husband since we met 18 years ago would never let me walk alone. We watched a crime show with similar ending recently and he glared at me and said thats why your not allowed to walk alone. This just proves him right. This whole story is tragic and so sad.
Allowed lol OMG seriouslly your OK with that are you , not allowed to walk by yourself , would you tell him he isn't allowed to walk by himself cause something could happen to him too . Perhaps you sadly love being controlled. Ffs
@@leabeggs8079yeah that sounds a bit mad
I think you're taking it wrong . He's obviously saying his wife is not allowed to walk alone at night incase anything bad happens to her.......that's what i got from that comment.
I'd rather hear a man say to his girlfriend/wife "You're not allowed to walk alone at night" than "You don't need me to pick you up or meet you,you'll be ok on your own,despite all the fucking weirdos out there"........FFS!
I read the title but for some reason i still get shocked and hope they make it. obviously they dont :(
Once again, another innocent young
live has been taken because the
victim has turn down his advances,
what is it with them?!, being rejected
every now and then is part and parcel of life, we have all been, there, but we don't go around
taking an innocent young live,
may Rachel rest in Peace.☹🙏
From the sound of it, it sounds like he had been almost stalking her for awhile.
Women need to take responsibility for their own actions, especially putting themselves in dangerous situations, like walking alone down dark alleys at 2am in the morning !
@@adambane1719 don't expect that to happen anytime soon.
@@adambane1719As sad as this case was, you are absolutely correct.
@@adambane1719HUMAN BEINGS SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO FUCKING WALK AROUND WITHOUT BEING RAPED YOU FUCKING INCEL
Thoughts w her family this new years. I hope that time has eased your pain. Best wishes from nz
*with
At least have the decency to write a sympathy note correctly by taking the time to spell it out correctly,
instead of using convenient abbrevs !
Typical Kiwi !!!!
Only came across this channel 5 days ago and have watched the lot love the channel great content 🎉🎉
Thank you so much! Happy to have you here!
Welcome! 😊 have fun catching up…lots of great content, that’s for sure
yet again another woman walking herself home ALONE in the dark and is set upon by a mindless murderer, it kills me inside that a woman regardless of age can't walk alone at any point in the day or night without having the worry that something will happen to her it honestly kills me inside hearing these cases
You are overreacting... In reality, there is a thing called odds and they are definitely in most people's favor.
Once again, a woman here that can't take responsibility for her own actions..... especially putting themselves in dangerous situations, like walking alone down dark alleys at 2am in the morning !
@@adambane1719your comments are gross. victim blaming at it’s finest, so because she walked up at 2am alone she was asking for it pretty much?
What is really pissing me off is that 1 she should be able to walk wherever whenever she bloody likes without worrying about being attacked
2 its not her mums fault she will always feel guilt when shes shouldn't her daughter was an adult she couldn't make her not go
3 its the sickos out there faults and thats it nobody else xx
Women need to take responsibility for their own actions, especially putting themselves in dangerous situations, like walking alone down dark alleys at 2am in the morning !
Yes obviously people should be able to walk wherever at whatever time but the REALITY is that there are always dangerous and opportunistic people lurking around which is why we need to make sure we don’t put ourselves in dangerous situations
@adambane1719 seriously that is the most disgusting thing ever, WOMEN shouldnt have to worry about MEN attacking them. Yes everyone should still be aware of there soundings but my point is anyone men and women should be able to walk without being attacked
@@davinawarner-brown8275 Once again, a woman here that can't take responsibility for her own actions..... especially putting themselves in dangerous situations, like walking alone down dark alleys at 2am in the morning !
Oh yeah coz its us womens fault that a man cant control himself so therefore we cant walk alone without being worried about being attacked..... ur a joke and i really hope u dont have any daughters 😔
Yes EVERYONE needs to be aware of where they walk amd go but everyone also shouldn't have to worry about it men and women.
We have had several police scandals in the UK in recent years and a huge amount needs to be improved, but I think that our police at their best do an exemplary job, as in this sad case.
Would not have happened if her boyfriend had kept his sode of the bargan. She could have enjoyed the new years evening worry free with her family, as he had enjoyed his christmas. Really shameless & selfish of him. Very sad result of him not keeping his word & her being worried about her kittens.
Here are some other "would not have happened ifs" for you to consider:
- Would not have happened if she had just stayed put.
- Would not have happened if that man hadn't chosen to kill her.
@@eadweard. right! I don't understand these folks blaming the Guy. He's done nothing wrong. Cats are reasonably independent and there is no need to babysit Them 24/7. regards.
I don't understand how people live with rubbish around in their house 🤢
The utter brutality of her murder, she didn't stand a chance 😢💔
Everyone is complaining about Rachel walking alone but what about the selfish boyfriend? Had he not left the kittens alone out of a selfish desire to party, this never would have happened.
Oh come on he’s a victim in this as much as anyone. He went out on New Year’s Eve leaving kittens alone for a bit. Kittens, not babies, kittens. I’m sure the guy feels awful enough about his decision without moronic comments like this.
Got to agree. I guess Mark was just hoping that his deceit about going out partying behind her back - and reneging on the arrangement that they had agreed upon so that their new kittens wouldn’t be neglected - just wouldn’t be discovered by Rachel. I wonder how he felt when he realised the part he played that resulted in her murder?
Obviously he didn’t kill her, and normally I’d have some sympathy for people who regret making such an awful decision that put their loved one directly in harm’s way, but he honestly didn’t really seem all that bothered about what happened to her. Very sad case.
@@Optics2024Kittens _are_ babies.
It was New years Eve! He didnt want to stay home watching kittens. Not his fault.
Ridiculous. You can put kittens in a box for a few hours, and they'll be fine. It was stupid for her to think they couldn't be on their own for a few hours.
Sooo sad. I hope her momma doesn’t feel guilty about it. * letting her walk alone.😔😥 RIP RACHEL🙏🩷🕊️
Letting her walk alone it's always our choice we will do what we want , no letting lol if you want to walk home by yourself it's mone of anyone's business.
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As a man, I am deeply disturbed by the boyfriend for not committing to what he said he Wld do at first, staying home to take care of the kittens. All of this cld have been different.
That’s what deeply disturbs you?! Seriously?
Leaving pets alone for a few hours is completely fine. Stop being illogical.
@paperplane-db8qf not very young animals, if they needed to be bottle fed, for instance. His irresponsible actions - and the fact he couldn't be bothered to tell her he wasn't going to do what was agreed, which in turn would have enabled her to either go home earlier when it was safer, or before the mother had the new years drink that prevented her driving, was what created the situation where sge needed to go home. If it wasn't needed, why had they both agreed to it beforehand? He wasn't the pos that killed her, but he certainly had a hand in shaping the scenario that lead to her coming into contact with the pos.
it shouldnt matter if she was alive or not during the rape, it was still rape
Interesting video as always. Thank you for continuing to publish content when everyone else seems to have disappeared. Happy new year 🎉❤
Absolutely no way in hell that jury would come back with a NOT guilty verdict - and jurors who take hours, days or even weeks is not always a bad thing sometimes, it means they are doing thorough research and a respectable job at their duty!!!
I hope that you ladies have a safe and happy new year!❤ Going to watch the video now!
Why would the mother ask a random man to walk her daughter that she just saw on the road 😮
honestly? some older women see men as protectors which they rightly should be but i think younger women understand more that there’s monsters out there
Her mother must feel guilty not driving her or waking up her brother to go with her something. Geez horrible so sad.
I'm sure she does but she shouldn't, and it shouldn't come to one such decision for a woman to lose her life. It's mind-boggling how it's still so normalised that just existing as a woman is inherently dangerous. Fuck all these incels who think they are entitled to any woman's attention, company or body.