The Most PAINFUL Poker Decision
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- čas přidán 19. 10. 2023
- In this poker hand, we explore a pivotal moment that unfolded in a Cash Game with a jaw-dropping buy-in of $200,000! The blinds stand at a staggering $500/$1,000, with a hefty $1,500 Big Blind Ante. It's a scenario that pushes the boundaries of poker strategy and decision-making, and it all centers around the question - when should you fold pocket aces?
Get ready to dissect each street of this extraordinary hand, starting from the pre-flop fireworks to the suspenseful turn decision. Join Jonathan Little in unravelling the thought processes, strategies, and psychology behind one of the most daring and captivating moves in the world of poker. Was it a spectacular fold or a massive blunder? Let's find out!
🃏 Hand Highlights:
The action kicks off as Tony G (UTG) raises to $3,000 with A♥Q♠, Jiang (UTG+1) calls with Q♦T♦, as do Danny Tang & Tan Xuan. Wai Kin Yong (BTN) wakes up with pocket aces and makes a sizable raise to $18,000! Warick Mirzikinian (BB) opts to call with pocket nines, and the action comes back to Tony G (UTG), who also calls. Jiang (UTG+1) chooses to call, while Tang (HJ) and Xuan (CO) decide to fold.
Pot - $80,000
💥 Flop:
The flop brings Q♣ T♣ 6♦, creating an interesting dynamic with potential draws and top pairs. Warwick (BB) checks, Tony G (UTG) checks, and Jiang (UTG+1) checks. Wai Kin Yong (BTN) seizes the opportunity and bets $35,000. Warwick(BB) decides to fold, and Tony G (UTG) calls. Jiang (UTG+1) then makes a raise to $130,000.!Yong (BTN) calls, and Tony G (UTG) folds, leaving two players in the hand.
Pot - $375,000
🔥 Turn:
The turn card reveals J♠. Jiang (UTG+1) doesn't hesitate and bets $229,000 all-in, committing his entire stack! Wai Kin Yong (BTN) faces a significant decision, can he fold the unfoldable?
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When have YOU ever found the fold with pocket aces?
When your on the bubble with VERY short stack with someone else even shorter
When the board looks like everything got there
when i limp intending to reraise looking to trap and nobody raises, dangerous flop aggressive betting you gotta let them go
Preflop? Never.
When the flop comes with 3 hearts, I'm holding two black Aces, and old man coffee shoves!
If you're a schoolteacher playing in the biggest game of your life with a big profit locked up with just a few hands to play, then you muck AA preflop. Oh wait, that happened years ago and has millions of views to this day!
Is that a reference to Matt Affleck?
@@ryang9401nope. Fisherman, the loose cannon on the big game many years ago. He folded aces and it was a lucky fold as someone hit quads postflop in that hand.
@@ryang9401fishman on loose cannon show
@@ryang9401I think is from that show that had "the cannon"
Yes it was the big game. He ended up saving all his money anyways bc he would’ve lost to quad 6’s
Dang it! The only time I ever folded AAs pre was the exact scenario you just described. We were two from the prize (entry to the big tourney) and SIX people went all in ahead of me! I looked down, laughed, and folded.
Well that is satellite strategy and I’ve done that many times.When you have a decent stack let the shorties get knocked out
Ty for the videos Jonathan!
He has a real work ethic, just one of Jonathan's fine qualities.
Talky G used to really bug me but I've come around to looking forward to his banter.
Just jam it all in preflop every time so you dont ever have to worry about folding Aces.
Only other one I can think of with AA to possibly fold preflop is 3 handed at a FT, your extremely short stacked; like 5bb, and the player on the btn, and sb have virtually the same stack size. If for whatever reason, the btn shoves, and the Sb wakes up with a hand and calls, almost guaranteeing you a pay jump, you should think about folding....
Probably a horrible idea, but something to atleast consider
This is correct, say you have 1bb, other 2 both have 100bb, 1st player shoves, 2nd player calls, AA is literally the easiest fold ever as you get 2nd place handed to you on a plate (assuming no chop)
Fold pocket aces as the midstack vs a bigstack 3 handed in a 2 places paid tournament where the third player is extremely short stacked and likely to be blinded out next hand.
What a sick fold
0200 & I was just off to bed. Cool, thanks. Love me some aces! The satellite thing makes sense.
_Love even more people whingeing about how much they "hate aces"._
Folding? When I either hit a variance wave, or when I screw them up [more or less like this!]
The case Q on the flop too. Nasty.
If an entire final table with even stack sizes is all in and you wake up with AA in the bb it's a fold.
If you ever fold/folded AA preflop in a tournament or cash game, I suggest you to uninstall the poker software immediately... you will make a big favour to yourself! 😅
What about this: 9 players left. 1 guy has 1000bb, you have 50bb, 7 other guys have 1bb. Guy with 1000bb jams and you have aces. 😉
@@corey192i call all day everyday til i quit poker
@@corey192snap fold
@@corey192never
2:06 Show one, show all. WTF!
Before listening to your answer about folding AA preflop my answer is the following:
1. In an MTT near ITM on a shortish stack with other short stacks, especially if a double up or more is not a significant improvement to your standing.
2. Near the end of a satellite when others have committed chips for all or most of your stack, especially if you arent small and likely to get a ticket if you sit still and wait for the shorter stacks to bust.
It seems you're putting results above the game itself... if you can't play this game without worrying about payouts then play another game that doesn't involve $... or play games that there are no choices and decisions like slots!!
Agree with #2, not with #1. If you fold AA on the hard bubble preflop, even if you risk to be eliminated, you are playing the wrong game or playing to high of a buy-in. There is no reason you should fold AA on the bubble even if someone else at another table has half a BB left. You want a double up to win the whole thing, not a min cash...
@@gnoel5722 a double up with 2 BB when someone else had 0.5BB doesnt make it much more likely you will win but gives you a chance to go home with nothing (having 5BB instead of 2BB is not a significant enough improvement).
@@jacobgoldman5780Your still wrong because a 5 BB stack is good enough to make a comeback.
A 5 BB stack can get hit by BB 2 times before your 3 BB crippled.
That means you have time to wait for A2 to AK, K2 to KQ, Q8 to QJ, J9, JT, T9, T8, 98, 97, 87, 22 to AA to shove, in preferable button, cut off, hi jack.
If you shove, and fold to you, now your at 7,8 BB.
Another fold to your shove, and your 9, 10 BB, another and your 11,12 BB.
If your 5 BB shove called depending on what hands are about 39% to 67% chance to double up to 10 BB.
1 more all in call of your all in, and about 43% to 69% chance that double up to 20 big blinds.
If your 5 BB, you have about a 18 to 36% chance that you can rebuild stack to about 25+ Big blinds.
There are many times I have been knocked down to 3 BB and doubled up to 6 bb's, etc.
So if your 2,3 bb's and double up to 5 bb's that can be, is a significant double up that can be doubled up again, etc.
I have seen a lot of 2,3 BB bubble double ups go on to win tournaments, and I have had that happen to me as well.
There is just no valid reason to fold a 2,3 BB stack preflop with AA, on a tournament money bubble unless life changing money at stake.
But if there is life changing money at stake, then your probably using BAD BANKROLL MANAGEMENT, and bought into tournament for too much.
If you have GOOD bankroll management, it won't matter if you don't fold AA preflop on the bubble and instead go all in and bust out, because it's a less meaningful MINCASH.
I would rather go all in with the AA, risk busting out before 1/2 BB makes the money in order to try to get a 5 BB then 10 BB then 15 BB then 20 BB, then 25 BB stack in order to try to make final table, get a bigger cash, win tournament, etc.
Yes there is about a 20% chance with your AA that you could lose your MINCASH.
But if you double up to 5 BB then build it back up to 20 BB, etc, you could end up winning a bigger cash that is 3 to 5 to 7 to 10 to 13+ times the size of the MINCASH you would get by folding your AA.
The only exception is yes you should fold AA on money bubble with your 2,3 BB stack, if it's a life changing MINCASH.
But if your in that exception you paid too much to buy into the tournament, have BAD BANKROLL management.
If you have good bankroll management, the right play is not to fold AA 2,3 BB on the money bubble.
Your just flat out wrong.
@@kitsune090 The objective in poker is to win MONEY, not to win HANDS. If the best tactic to win more money is to fold AA preflop, then that's the correct decision, period. If you're not taking ICM into account when playing a tournament, then YOU are the button-clicker.
I was the massive chip leader in a satellite bubble and was raising three out of every 4 hands and being the bully my stack allowed.
I raise K3o or some such trash from UTG, 2nd in chips (about 2/3 of my stack) in UTG+2 sighs, pauses, then jams.
Folds to me, I insta-muck.
He shows AA. I say, "Thats the only hand you can have that does that" while thinking about how truly awful and unnecessary the play was.
The final hand was an even worse blunder where the BB has 0.2 BB after posting, and someone with 2 BB in MP open jams A9o, i call with AJ and become the BB's new hero.
You stole my story! 🤟🤣
As a frequent satellite player the answer, or at least one answer for the question is easy. So, u should fold AA pf on satellite when u already have stack big enough to gain the entry, but if u lose an all in with AA to a similar size stack ur gone. So theres one example. Yesterday i had ako on the bb, there was a jam from utg which was litllebit more than 1/3 of my stack and i already had enough chips to get the ticket. I open folded my ako, and boy did they shoot me with donkcannons etc.
Yes having a big stack and folding your way into the money is nice!!
I saw a fool last night call a shove from a larger stack with his QQ on the bubble while there was a micro stacks in other tables that would be out in a few hands 😂😂 QQ lost of course
It’s anazing the amount of people that don’t have a clue about satty strategy and I think it’s one of the most profitable forms of poker
@@Gos1234567 yes, getting tickets to games which ur roll wouldnt let u play is always nice
Me and another player heads up - Flop is K66 - I check - because he loves 6s - and he jams all in - if he doesnt have a 6 or both then he is only shoving a KK - I get out show my AA and he indeed shows his KK . I didnt like it but I figured he was already beating me
WSOP Main event level 1.
Thats why you preraise to the heavens with pocket As, you will only be called by As, Ks, AK, maybe Qs, and if youre with really loose players maybe Js and suited broadway hands. All of which you will have totally dominated
Got dealt Aces on button today, raise, 2 callers, flop is 8,9,J. Raise and reraise before me. I thought for a minute and folded face up. Next card is a blank. Both guys bet. River another A. Guys go all in and pocket 99 takes the pot. I really thought one would have had the straight. Other guy betting had KQ for busted gutter.
You absolutely should not fold face up if there are other players still playing out the hand.
Can I get a shirt that says "Perfectly Reasonable"
I would fold aces preflop 3 spots from the payout bubble or a final table bubble as long as I wasn't one of the shortest stacks in the whole field. Of course it's much easier to know if you are one of the shortest stacks online, but if you're playing live, during the breaks, look at the chip stacks on the other tables so you have an idea of where you stand.
Please uninstall the poker software... you should play minecraft instead!
@@kitsune090 you must be that donkey that busts out and goes home broke.
@@kitsune090😂😂😂😂👍👍👍
Nonsense
Easy fold with AA even on the flop.
Jiang's raise looks so strong, because he leaves himself very little behind.
Besides Yong himself has the A of clubs which blocks a lot of Ax of clubs combo's.
And finally Tony G is behind him, who easily could have flatted with 66 or TT there.
If Yong would have folded on the flop that would have been more impressive (despite him having the A of clubs) now as it stands he folded on the turn which is actually very easy in this spot.
Also it was multiway and everyone showed interest in the pot!
It was easy on the flop... not so on the turn where he has pot odds... spr too low! and he can improve 27% which is close but enough...
Don't think it accounts for dead cards. Tony folded an A, and a J was folded, so he has 10 outs; 1 A, 4 Ks, 2 Js, 3 6s. That wouldn't be 27% equity.
cant wait for all the comments "easy fold"
Never
Found it, FT non PKO 1 big stack 3 mid stacks 4 short stacks, Big stack opens , mid stack calls, you a mid stack calls, last mid stack 3 bets NAI, all short stacks fold and the big stack jams, now you mix fold with aces and snap fold AKo.
Well.. no, not even close
@@corey192 yeah GTO wiz is a fish :).
Mix fold? Did you mean must fold?
@@TrueGoat-Bahhh gto wiz would never do such bs. Plz tell me the exact scenario so i can look it up
@@corey192 Solutions=MTT Format=ICM Tournament phase=Final Table Stack Type=Far Stacks avg 20 UTG 14bb, UTG+i 23bb, LJ 29BB, HJ 23bb, CO 8bb, Btn 17bb, SB 32bb, BB 11bb . Have UTG open , UGT1 call, LJ 3bet to 4.5bb ,HJ folds, Co all in for 8bb, folds to UTG who goes all in , UTG1 also goes all in. Everything in LJs range mixes fold. Some of the ranges do weird things especially Btn so I don't know for sure but if you set it up that your potentially getting a couple ladders if you fold and can just bust out if you call GTOW will mix fold with aces, I don't think i could find the fold tbh I'll just run it. Big stack on a satty bubble is the only time I'll really find it since there is nothing else to win.
From what I have seen, most poker tables are english only at the table. Are they allowing mandarin mainly to keep the player base happy, or because the Chinese speakers are not in a hand, or would it be something else?
What, folding one pair 4-ways on the flop is difficult now?
If you're up against players who never bluff, no. Otherwise, sometimes it is difficult.
I have folded Pocket A's during tournaments when there are multiple all-ins because your hand is NOT going to hold up against that many people. However, if you suspect that the biggest stack amongst those is NOT all in, you could get additional chips and incentive to call and get his chips (essentially breaking even, but you have a slight chance of holding up against the smaller stacks as well).
Who said pocket aces don't hold against multiple players? lol you are totally clueless.... folding AA preflop is the same as eating sh it... do you do that too? Omg fiiiiiiiishhhhh 😂
This would only make sense on a final table with massive pay jumps. At any other stage of the tournament it would be a terrible idea, regardless of how many people are all in before you.
He can also do this with J9cc as well. Just an annoying spot
I may have folded pocket Aces in a satellite or a survivor tournament when I had enough chips to just float to the finish line. I wouldn't know if I had because I only pretend to look at my hand in those situations.
Here's a trivia question I like: The active players are all-in. How can position still matter?
Top two pair vs. Top pair - Top kicker vs. Over pair...this live game is rigged!
If we fold 99 what we call in that spot AK ,QQ and beter ?
Only scenario to "fold" pocket Aces before the the flop??? ... I lean towards *_never_* ... definitely lots after the flop in comparison like two or more all ins before you, but before the flop? Nah, I'm sticking with *_never!_* no matter what happens on the table.
Ah, yes... of course on the bubble and yes, if you "don't need" to win, yes.. then that's a case for folding... okay... I agree.
Just think about how stupid you would feel if you were the bubble boy in a huge tournament with life changing money because you didn't have the discipline to fold AA. Any silly 2 pair hand beats aces. Think about how many times you've made 2 pair with junk cards. That happens to other players too. Not just you. So don't act like you have a royal when it's just aces.
@@ryang9401Agree!!! And, ironically, I have made this mistake and went all in on a hand and lost! I could of folded my way to the final table of a local tourney... I did learn this lesson that hard way. The mistake I made with Johnathan's question was restricting my thinking winning the current hand, of which I would never fold Aces... I wasn't thinking big picture stuff, outside of the box.
By the way, great disciplined fold by Tony G, the super pro _(Warwick is not the only Aussie at the table)._ And the fold was instant, too.
That was an incorrect fold on the turn, only because of pot odds... he should call knowing he would need to improve his hand to win... he should fold on the flop then! Calling 100k more knowing your opponent will probably (almost 100%) bet again on the turn and you will have to fold is like burning money... that's why once he called on the flop he has to call on the turn too, there's already too much money in the pot/spr is too low... call and pray is the only thing left to do... that's the reason villian has to shove on the flop, he has the best hand, but it can easily be beaten... so shoving is a way to deny equity and take the pot right away without needing to worry... you only raise small/medium when you have the stone cold nuts or a monster combo draw and actually want your opponent to come along... in a wet board with a vulnerable hand like QT, I don't mind to end the hand on the flop and take the pot uncontested...
And also the J on the turn is a great card. Gives him more outs vs a hand like QT. And it shouldnt improve jiang because he never has AK or QJ.
You could always limp with AA and try to flop a set or a boat and if you don't, then fold if you feel like you're possibly beaten if you're close to a payout bubble or a big pay jump or a final table.
Lol
Great strategy! You could actually limp any two cards and try to flop trips or a straight, maybe even a flush. And if you dont, you just fold. Easy money.
@@corey192 yeah but why waste any blinds at all on trash hands if you're short stacked with something significant on the line?
@@ryang9401 you didnt realize im being sarcastic, didnt u?😉