I am neither pre-trib or post-trib anymore. I am pro ENTERING through the narrow gait leading to life; pro OVERCOMING the flesh, the world, and the devil; pro ENDURING till the end.
Noah, Moses, and Lot were spared from wrath because they were righteous. So it stands to reason the righteous will be spared through the rapture before the tribulation period begins. If your a saved child of the Lord do you really think the Lord would destroy a building with his children still inside that building or do you think he would get those children out before he destroys the building? So as our heavenly father we can trust that he will get us out of here before he destroys the earth. Thank you Jesus!!
What sense would it make for God to send His only begotten Son to die on the cross for our sins and to experience God's wrath on our behalf, and then turn around a force his Church to experience the Wrath of God, the wrath that Jesus SAVED US FROM?!
Jesus did say the road is narrow and few find it. The rapture is a secret it’s a mystery and the seed for belief in it is planted in the hearts of believers by scripture and the Holy Spirit. It’s our great escape....Oh death where is thy sting. Thank God for preachers such as you who know how to rightly divide the truth.
I would clarify that it's not a secret. When he shouts with a loud voice "come up here" only those who recognize his voice will hear and look up. The sheep know the shepherds voice. Jesus wants everyone to hear his shout, unfortunately many do not want to listen.
Hallelujah Brother John. You are the Pre Trib Rapture Clarification Source that I have been seeking for some time! May the Risen Lord Bless You and keep you in the Palm Of His Hand always!
Thank you so much! Also, if you look at the parallel between Jesus and the bride, and the Jewish wedding.... the groom comes to "steal" the bride in the middle of the night and after 7 nights (7 years of tribulation), the groom reveals the bride to everyone else. God is simply amazing!!!! I learn something awesome about Him every day!!!!
It's not always easy to understand, but one thing is for sure, we will be out of here before God's wrath is coming. Second, nobody knows how long each one of us is going to live. So you have to expect Jesus every day. There is something else to consider. The antichrist will not show up as long the Holy Spirit is here and God promised us that the Holy Spirit won't leave us. So, if the Holy Spirit is not here during revelation, and God never breaks a promise, how can we be here then?
If you believe in a pre trib rapture then you believe in what Jesus said and you are watching for Jesus to come back your not waiting in the ant-Christ cause we won’t be here when he’s introduced. If you believe that we won’t be taken before the time of tribulation than you believe you’ll be here when the anti-Christ appears in which case you are waiting on the anti-christ not Jesus.
Thanks you Teacher. May I add an eighth reason for the pretrib Rapture. It is that "The Antichrist cannot coexist on earth alongside the Church, or else he will not be able to exercise any power as permitted by divinity. Apostle Paul refers to the Church as the " Restrainer" who must be taken 'out of the way'. 2Thess 2 : 6 - 8.
Yes you are correct unbelievable there are people out there who can understand this verse I am so glad to hear that it lifts my spirit thank you so much for clearing this up
I have noticed those that do not believe in the Rapture seem to belittle those of us that do. Makes me wonder why they take such a tone to other believers? Anyway, this is a great video!
bigmac ...I think it can be confusing...and all of us want to KNOW.Either one...I just want to be with Him...for EVER.People who only believe...coming with the clouds...and all will see Him(2nd coming)@ end of Trib.,are still Christians and won't be chase away..if Rapture happens.I myself understands both ways.But will be so happy if Rapture us true..can't wait to be with our Almighty Father🙌.If someone is under operation...a good person but yet not 100% true Christian...a d the doctor who operates on him/her...just dissapear...what will happen?And 1 000 other excamples.Our poor pets...lost between hatefull,fighting people?💦😧
bigmac, I agree. One of the most common thing about anti-trib people is their nastiness towards believers. I’ve been called a demon and condemned to Hell by anti-rapture people who couldn’t, by the way, directly address my arguments.
because true believers are to expose false doctrine. Jesus NEVER said anything about sneaking back to rapture, just that he would return. Man this is very deceptive! Rapture happens AS Jesus is returning, still in the clouds! Just to the church? Sorry, this is false, Satan is to clever! Talk about tickling the ears!
bigmac You are right brother. There is something unsettling about these brothers and sisters who attack the body of Christ which they claim their a part of. Quick to tell you you're wrong and their right without love. We can only pray for them in Jesus name.
@@theogentile4579if you believe in the imminency of Christ and the physical millennial kingdom then you have to believe in a possible pretribulation rapture.... otherwise you have to believe Jesus cant come till after the tribulation...... either way the coming of Christ is supposed to comfort us believers.......
Good vid... I learned a couple new arguments especially the one about 'no jew or gentile' in the church age (because all saved are Christians), then jew and gentile itemized once again during the tribulation if church had been removed.
Really glad I stumbled on this site tonight.This is the very best set of arguments for the rapture of the church between the 69th and 70th week and as a separate issue from the the 2nd coming of Christ.the arguments form scripture were for me sound solid and very comforting.this was for me the 1st Time as a Holy Spirit baptized Christian that I did not have any disagreement in my spirit with what He said and taught.I have read several books on this and watched lots of different videos.I don't know this church but the teaching hits all the right bells from the Word of God for me.
Thank you John for posting a scriptural based, well reasoned, logical and loving approach as to why we believe in the pre tribulation rapture. I have watch other videos of yours and subscribed to your channel. I found them all to be equally well reasoned, and scriptural based. Great encouragement and instruction in a time when the enemy of our souls is busy spreading false doctrine, and hopelessness.
I would pray, GOD please a little more Grace , send Your Holy Spirit to convict the World of their sins , so they Repent and purify and be save in You LORD. How could many be deceive by Satan and go to Hell forever LORD JESUS CHRIST. I cry and Pray for the Holy Spirit of GOD to come and convict as much as many to be save in JESUS Amen!!! GOD bless with HIS peace love joy and Hope in Christ JESUS Amen!!!
Good teaching! 70 weeks have been determined upon your people. Notice the word "your people". Who is he referring to when he says "your people"? The Jews, Hebrews, the Israelites! Not the church! 69 weeks have passed. 1 week (Jacob's trouble) is still left. This is the cornerstone scripture, in my judgment, for the pre-tribulation rapture of the church of our Lord Jesus Christ! If it's determined upon his people, then it's not determined upon us! We had nothing to do with their transgressions. We have been forgiven and grafted in - Glory to God!
Pre trib rapture for me - many teachings say otherwise but I believe God for miracles - Enoch and Elisha had theirs so why not the Church? As a man beliveth in his heart let it be into him...
why is it that ppl think that the great tribulation is the wrath of God. Rev 12 clearly says it's the wrath of Satan. Even vs 12 says "the devil has come down with great wrath" because he knows his time is short. Satan's wrath is against the righteous ones. Christ wrath is against the wicked ones. Remember when they begged the mountains to fall on them because they knew his wrath was coming. They said who can withstand his wrath? Which means nobody will. So to believe ppl will survive from God's wrath (the tribulation) doesn't make sense to me, but ppl will survive the tribulation. Satan and the antichrist won't help God pour out his wrath because they will be getting it the wrost, but they will be running the tibulation basically. That's like the lie ppl think that Satan is ruler of Hell and will be there having fun torturing ppl there. That's crazy. No he will be there getting his reward as all will. It's so many other things that he said that confuses me. I can't even cover them all. I'd like to ask him so many questions 1 on 1.
Ramon Tharpe satan? Who opens the seals? Every seal that is open is opened by The Lamb. It is Daniel’s 70th week not Daniel’s half a week. It is Jacob’s Trouble. Not Satan’s Trouble. Who is God trying to wake up? His elect, His chosen people, the Jews.
Also revelation 12 doesn't say what your making it say. It says that the devil will has great wrath because he knows his time is short. Meaning he along with all his followers are limited. So he's going to do what ever he can to cause us to stumble and fall and loose faith. That's his purpose. That's the wrath he has for us. Fortunatly we are given thed ability and authority to stand up against him in victory
VERY GOOD RAMON! God is not going to do the devil a favor by letting him torture ppl FOREVER! ESPECIALLY SINCE THE DEVIL HIMSELF WILL BE DESTROYED AND TURNED TO ASH IN THE LAKE OF FIRE! One of the key verses as far as the gathering together unto Christ is, "God has not appointed us to wrath". Another scripture would be, "Christ hath saved us from the wrath to come". Another key verse many people miss is during the time of Christ second coming to earth we are coming down with Him dressed in white riding white horses coming from heaven during the battle of Armageddon WHICH IS DURING THE GREAT TRIBULATION! HOW IN THE WORLD CAN WE THEN BE ON THE EARTH GETTING SLAUGHTERED AND COMING DOWN FROM HEAVEN WITH CHRIST JESUS AT THE SAME TIME!? U CANT BE AT TWO PLACES AT ONCE! GOD BLESS U RAMON!
Some great points. I for the life of me can’t understand why so called Christians don’t believe in the pre trib rapture that believe we actually go through the time of Jacobs trouble it’s so clear in the Bible.
It's truly a shame that most believers have do idea that the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 even happened, let alone the horrors that took place. An enormous amount of scripture points to this event.
This was great. Thankyou, and may GOD bless you. I've watched a couple of your videos today, and His Anointing has settled upon me both times. HALLELUJAH! The LORD is good. Soon will be going Home. HALLELUJAH! Amen.
hi i watched the video but i cant understand the rapture idea all the scriptures that you mentioned , they are not explaining anything about rapture . please explain
Great ability to share the word and clarify the words of ALL that the lord spoke through, just new to this channel and spending good time here! Thank you, John! Thank you Jesus!
Yes I understand these people thought that they miss the rapture you are correct amazing and finally I find someone on CZcams who understands what that he verse is actually saying
I love the name of your CZcams channel, awesome keep it up thank you brother, cuz even though our fellow brothers and sisters might be saved in Christ already, I know that a lot of them don't believe in the pre-trib rapture, and they deserve to know
Is God's wrath the same as the great tribulation? If no believer is appointed unto wrath and wrath and great tribulation are the same. Does it mean that no believer of Christ will ever experience great tribulation?
He basically said Jesus treats gentiles and Jews differently. Rupturing gentiles. Yet the Bible says we are one the same. We all follow the same thing we all get treated the same.
The church - the body of Christ, there is no Jew or Gentile. For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. Galatians 3:26-28 KJV The Old Testament and in the time of Tribulation, there is distinction of Jew and Gentiles.
THE WORD OF GOD SAYS WE ARE SAVED FROM THE WRATH TO COME! The Word Of God says when Christ returns to earth at His second coming it is during the battle of Armageddon which is during the great tribulation AND WE ARE WITH HIM! How in the world could the Christian saints be coming back from heaven dressed in white riding horses WITH CHRIST AND BE DOWN HERE ON EARTH GETTING SLAUGHTERED? U CANT BE AT TWO PLACES AT ONCE! Many believer's miss this scripture and truth I just shared with u! GOD BLESS U JUSTIN!
There is a teaching about the rapture only occurring during the Feast of Trumpets. I held this belief for a short time and I've begun to step away from it. Is this teaching scriptural?
This makes a lot of sense. But why does 1 Thess.4:16 say For the Lord himself *will descend from heaven* with a cry of command, with the voice of an archangel, and with the sound of the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first? Doesn't "descend" mean to come down to earth?
Is preacher from Yuma Arizona just ran into this channel it was linked to a channel where I was watching the news Peter Smith about false prophets and I ran into this and I started listening to it where to go totally Bible field I like it I will listen to more to see how it goes God bless you and I was blessed with this message and totally agree my wife said she agrees to
TruthOrTradition, thanks for this video. First, I agree that the Rapture moment IS separate from the return of Christ, because I believe the scriptures make this plain. 2nd, I believe the scriptures tell of WHEN all the descriptive verses, found in Corinthians, Thessalonians, Mathew, Mark, Luke, and other books, take place. It's in the Book of Revelation; the actual play, or movie, if you understand my analogy. Read all about the descriptions. Then Read the BOR for the WHEN or step-by-step moments, and you will find the rapture moment. 1 Cor 15: where it says, "Behold I shew you a mystery (or as you say, a secret thing), this passage describes how its possible for the dead, and the living are raised. Mortal bodies are changed into immortal bodies. Yeah, it describes the rapture too, but when? - At the last trump! When is the last trump? When is the Last Day, as other scriptures use, like John Chapter 6 mentions. When will the dead rise first? Rev 18 shows this, starting with the rapture in Vs 4. "Come out of her, my people..." Then insert all those rapture passages to describe this moment. THEN, will Jesus destroy the earth. Vs 8 "Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death and mourning, and famine, and she shall be utterly burned with fire." The destruction of earth is what Jesus will rapture His People from! Rev 18:4 says, "Come out of her, my people..." If we are raptured out before this, then why is Jesus saying this, in Rev 18 ! ? We, His People, must still be here including the dead, up until this point ! Rev 18 vs 4 (Rapture moment) IS separate and different than Ch 19:7. (Christ's return).
Noah was mocked in the 120 years which he built the ark, and they didn't make it....people are mocking now. Believers will, just like Eight people, and the animals that came were saved, Noah didn't close and seal the door, God did!!! Jesus will come in the clouds, and gather the believers, the non believers will have to suffer the Great Tribulation/Jacobs trouble just like being taken by the flood of Noah's day. Mockers then and now, and will be suffering due to pride that started the whole mess.
Did Paul or the church have a description of the second coming? I thought revelation had not been written yet. Also those two things that have to happen ,the falling away ,and the man of sin revealed ,does that mean the church is going to be here when the antichrist comes on the scene? Waiting
Complicated? Think of it like you would, with a digital file and pointer; except God can literally start & stop, pause & review. To God, it's simplistic, and He explains it to several cultures in dozens of languages, over thousands of years. It's all just to help you see that God is 100% just to His precepts and His plan is on course. FOR US, we can patiently wait for our Father's plan to include our part. You can cause yourself wonderment, or just have the confidence in God's word.
From darkness to light of the word is the important transformation , salvation is for an abundant life now while in flesh and blood bodies we are waiting for others to be born again and recieve the witness inside them of being reconcilled to God . Eternal life begins with being quickened (made alive ) by the giving of comforter (holy spirit) we shall not die . We do know that flesh and blood does not recieve the kingdom . God is spirit tge kingdom is spirit . Flesh will perish
I always think, why would only those believers who live at the time of tribulation, be subjected to judgment? Believers beforehand got a free pass when they died during peace? Why would you be appointed to wrath for being (or trying to be) an obedient servant. You don't punish a child for listening. It's my understanding that believers in the days leading up to tribulation will either be brought out of the world, or be protected during tribulation. All very confusing and context must be understood. I pray daily for discernment and understanding.
Ok I’m a little confused right from the very beginning and I really hope I get an answer. I have always been taught pre trib but have been reading more and am wondering if the rapture is mid trib. I have been going back and forth and struggling with this the past week or so because I’ll hear or read something that makes so much sense to fit either pre or mid and then one little detail will come out following that making me second guess it all again. This is the detail that did it for me in your teaching. Jews and gentiles. It makes perfect sense saying that after the rapture, it goes back to OT times where there is only Jew and gentile on earth now. But then you said “Jews that believe and don’t believe and gentiles that believe and don’t believe.” How can this be?!? If there are ones that believe, then why didn’t they get taken in the pre trib rapture?? Please please please I really need an answer to this.
Non-Believers Can Become Christians After The Rapture Now we should ask, what happens to non-believers after the rapture? Can people become a Christian after the rapture? The answer is that at the rapture all Christians are removed from the earth. After the rapture, some non-believers will become Christians. The book of Revelation reveals that God will send the 144,000 witnesses (Revelation 7:4-8), the two witnesses (Revelation 11:1-10) and an angel to preach the gospel (Revelation 14:6) about Jesus Christ. The world will be called to repent but the vast majority will refuse and instead curse God (Revelation 16:21). That is there will be a second chance after the rapture for people to become a Christian. Revelation 6:9-11; 7:9-17 reveal that some people will become Christians in the tribulation. Yet, many of these Christians will die (Revelation 20:4). To become a Christian means almost certain death. Therefore, after the rapture, will there be Christians be on the earth? The answer is yes!
I think it's inferred that only believers will see him because in Rev 1:7 we are told “every eye will see him, even those who pierced him" whereas in the rapture those that oppose Christ are not mentioned.
Well done! There may actually be a rapture prophecy in the O.T. Check out Isaiah 26:19-21. There is a "mistake" in the Hebrew text: My body, THEY will rise. Bad grammar, great theology. Very interesting....
only the church of the body of Christ are gathered together before the great tribulation. Isa.is addressed to Israel and must be speaking of the resurrection of the just. The great secret was kept hidden in God and was not made manifest until Christ told Paul some twenty years after the day of Pentecost! Also in John's teaching regarding his fifth point the saints are coming down from heaven with Christ Jesus at His second coming dressed in white riding horses! THIS IS DURING THE BATTLE OF ARMEGEDDON DURING THE GREAT TRIBULATION SO HOW IN THE WORLD CAN THE CHRISTIAN CHURCH BE DOWN ON EARTH GOING THROUGH THE TRIBULATION AND RETURNING FROM HEAVEN WITH CHRIST? U CANT BE IN TWO PLACES AT THE SAME TIME! I wish John would have pointed that out in his teaching! GOD BLESS U CONTENDER!
Here is what I know Jesus told us that his followers would hear his voice and another they will not follow or hear. So Jesus said in Matthew 24:15-21 he says go read what Daniel says in Daniel 11:45-12:1 Revelation 16:1-15 . That's the word of God and the truth all else is a lie.
I've recently begun studying the Bible again and am finding my relationship with God again. But I don't have anyone to ask questions...could you help please? I recently reread revelations and was wondering if those who would be raptured are the 144000? It says those would not have to suffer the tribulation I believe....
I don't believe there is any doubt among any group that the rapture is for the church. The 144,000 appears too limited in number to be the church. These are from the twelve tribes of Israel who are evangelizing multitudes during the tribulation period along with the 2 witnesses.
I will ask this question on every rapture video I see, It has yet to be sufficiently answered. You, who plan to be raptured away, will you be taking your body with you to "wherever" and if so, HOW?
Tim Hallas The Bible says those sure are alive will be changed in the twinkling of an eye so that means our body will be changed into a on corruptible body it is you done instantaneously and then we go up to be with the Lord
Yeah ask us what they were lying about was the people that rose out of the graves after Jesus rose from the dead and they went into the city are they were telling him yeah you you miss the rapture so were the resurrection so that's what they were afraid of
Well be here for the seals and trumpets, not the bowls of wrath.. thats why it says at the last trump! Before the bowls is "testing" not wrath.. and the lord isn't showing up for believers he's showing up for disciples! Those who deny themselves and carry there cross daily and follow him.. in the last century church very few do that!! So prepare!!
I am neither pre-trib or post-trib anymore. I am pro ENTERING through the narrow gait leading to life; pro OVERCOMING the flesh, the world, and the devil; pro ENDURING till the end.
How is that going for you Dan?
Noah, Moses, and Lot were spared from wrath because they were righteous. So it stands to reason the righteous will be spared through the rapture before the tribulation period begins. If your a saved child of the Lord do you really think the Lord would destroy a building with his children still inside that building or do you think he would get those children out before he destroys the building? So as our heavenly father we can trust that he will get us out of here before he destroys the earth. Thank you Jesus!!
What sense would it make for God to send His only begotten Son to die on the cross for our sins and to experience God's wrath on our behalf, and then turn around a force his Church to experience the Wrath of God, the wrath that Jesus SAVED US FROM?!
Amen! Such a blessing to hear such accurate teaching of Scripture. I will see you in the clouds soon, my brother. Jesus is ready to call us home.
Jesus did say the road is narrow and few find it. The rapture is a secret it’s a mystery and the seed for belief in it is planted in the hearts of believers by scripture and the Holy Spirit. It’s our great escape....Oh death where is thy sting. Thank God for preachers such as you who know how to rightly divide the truth.
Thanks for watching!
I would clarify that it's not a secret. When he shouts with a loud voice "come up here" only those who recognize his voice will hear and look up. The sheep know the shepherds voice. Jesus wants everyone to hear his shout, unfortunately many do not want to listen.
I listened to les feldick earlier....and now Mr John..I get it...I see it clearly now!!! God Bless You!!!
Hallelujah Brother John. You are the Pre Trib Rapture Clarification Source that I have been seeking for some time! May the Risen Lord Bless You and keep you in the Palm Of His Hand always!
Thank you so much! Also, if you look at the parallel between Jesus and the bride, and the Jewish wedding.... the groom comes to "steal" the bride in the middle of the night and after 7 nights (7 years of tribulation), the groom reveals the bride to everyone else. God is simply amazing!!!! I learn something awesome about Him every day!!!!
Amazing break down of the Rapture before the tribulation. Jesus bless you
It's not always easy to understand, but one thing is for sure, we will be out of here before God's wrath is coming. Second, nobody knows how long each one of us is going to live. So you have to expect Jesus every day. There is something else to consider. The antichrist will not show up as long the Holy Spirit is here and God promised us that the Holy Spirit won't leave us. So, if the Holy Spirit is not here during revelation, and God never breaks a promise, how can we be here then?
Perfect!
Very good point, we need to understand that.
If you believe in a pre trib rapture then you believe in what Jesus said and you are watching for Jesus to come back your not waiting in the ant-Christ cause we won’t be here when he’s introduced. If you believe that we won’t be taken before the time of tribulation than you believe you’ll be here when the anti-Christ appears in which case you are waiting on the anti-christ not Jesus.
Absolutely, amazingly, perfectly,wonderfully and flawlessly explained, so thank you so much pastor!
Thanks you Teacher. May I add an eighth reason for the pretrib Rapture. It is that "The Antichrist cannot coexist on earth alongside the Church, or else he will not be able to exercise any power as permitted by divinity. Apostle Paul refers to the Church as the " Restrainer" who must be taken 'out of the way'. 2Thess 2 : 6 - 8.
Yes you are correct unbelievable there are people out there who can understand this verse I am so glad to hear that it lifts my spirit thank you so much for clearing this up
I have noticed those that do not believe in the Rapture seem to belittle those of us that do. Makes me wonder why they take such a tone to other believers? Anyway, this is a great video!
bigmac ...I think it can be confusing...and all of us want to KNOW.Either one...I just want to be with Him...for EVER.People who only believe...coming with the clouds...and all will see Him(2nd coming)@ end of Trib.,are still Christians and won't be chase away..if Rapture happens.I myself understands both ways.But will be so happy if Rapture us true..can't wait to be with our Almighty Father🙌.If someone is under operation...a good person but yet not 100% true Christian...a d the doctor who operates on him/her...just dissapear...what will happen?And 1 000 other excamples.Our poor pets...lost between hatefull,fighting people?💦😧
bigmac, I agree. One of the most common thing about anti-trib people is their nastiness towards believers. I’ve been called a demon and condemned to Hell by anti-rapture people who couldn’t, by the way, directly address my arguments.
because true believers are to expose false doctrine. Jesus NEVER said anything about sneaking back to rapture, just that he would return. Man this is very deceptive! Rapture happens AS Jesus is returning, still in the clouds! Just to the church? Sorry, this is false, Satan is to clever! Talk about tickling the ears!
bigmac You are right brother. There is something unsettling about these brothers and sisters who attack the body of Christ which they claim their a part of. Quick to tell you you're wrong and their right without love. We can only pray for them in Jesus name.
@@theogentile4579if you believe in the imminency of Christ and the physical millennial kingdom then you have to believe in a possible pretribulation rapture.... otherwise you have to believe Jesus cant come till after the tribulation...... either way the coming of Christ is supposed to comfort us believers.......
Good vid... I learned a couple new arguments especially the one about 'no jew or gentile' in the church age (because all saved are Christians), then jew and gentile itemized once again during the tribulation if church had been removed.
Really glad I stumbled on this site tonight.This is the very best set of arguments for the rapture of the church between the 69th and 70th week and as a separate issue from the the 2nd coming of Christ.the arguments form scripture were for me sound solid and very comforting.this was for me the 1st Time as a Holy Spirit baptized Christian that I did not have any disagreement in my spirit with what He said and taught.I have read several books on this and watched lots of different videos.I don't know this church but the teaching hits all the right bells from the Word of God for me.
Thank you John for posting a scriptural based, well reasoned, logical and loving approach as to why we believe in the pre tribulation rapture. I have watch other videos of yours and subscribed to your channel. I found them all to be equally well reasoned, and scriptural based. Great encouragement and instruction in a time when the enemy of our souls is busy spreading false doctrine, and hopelessness.
The tribulation is not the same as wrath.
Praise God! come now Lord Jesus, come soon!
+Allie Hunter - I'm with you! So ready!
***** well you got a while to wait. the 3rd Temple isnt even built yet.
MARANATHA!!
LikeMinds yes all that will happen and then the Rapture!!!!
I would pray, GOD please a little more Grace , send Your Holy Spirit to convict the World of their sins , so they Repent and purify and be save in You LORD. How could many be deceive by Satan and go to Hell forever LORD JESUS CHRIST. I cry and Pray for the Holy Spirit of GOD to come and convict as much as many to be save in JESUS Amen!!! GOD bless with HIS peace love joy and Hope in Christ JESUS Amen!!!
Good teaching! 70 weeks have been determined upon your people. Notice the word "your people". Who is he referring to when he says "your people"? The Jews, Hebrews, the Israelites! Not the church! 69 weeks have passed. 1 week (Jacob's trouble) is still left. This is the cornerstone scripture, in my judgment, for the pre-tribulation rapture of the church of our Lord Jesus Christ! If it's determined upon his people, then it's not determined upon us! We had nothing to do with their transgressions. We have been forgiven and grafted in - Glory to God!
Pre trib rapture for me - many teachings say otherwise but I believe God for miracles - Enoch and Elisha had theirs so why not the Church? As a man beliveth in his heart let it be into him...
I hope you are right.
Heart is deceitful
Before the appearing and gathering, the rebellion and revealing must occur first.
It’s our blessed hope. Keeps us going when we go out into Satan’s world. Encourage one another. We’ve only got our family in Christ Jesus🙏✝️
why is it that ppl think that the great tribulation is the wrath of God. Rev 12 clearly says it's the wrath of Satan. Even vs 12 says "the devil has come down with great wrath" because he knows his time is short. Satan's wrath is against the righteous ones. Christ wrath is against the wicked ones. Remember when they begged the mountains to fall on them because they knew his wrath was coming. They said who can withstand his wrath? Which means nobody will. So to believe ppl will survive from God's wrath (the tribulation) doesn't make sense to me, but ppl will survive the tribulation. Satan and the antichrist won't help God pour out his wrath because they will be getting it the wrost, but they will be running the tibulation basically. That's like the lie ppl think that Satan is ruler of Hell and will be there having fun torturing ppl there. That's crazy. No he will be there getting his reward as all will. It's so many other things that he said that confuses me. I can't even cover them all. I'd like to ask him so many questions 1 on 1.
Ramon Tharpe satan? Who opens the seals? Every seal that is open is opened by The Lamb. It is Daniel’s 70th week not Daniel’s half a week. It is Jacob’s Trouble. Not Satan’s Trouble. Who is God trying to wake up? His elect, His chosen people, the Jews.
Because it is. During the great tribulation God pours out 7 vials of wrath on those that are left behind. Rev.15-16.
Also revelation 12 doesn't say what your making it say. It says that the devil will has great wrath because he knows his time is short. Meaning he along with all his followers are limited. So he's going to do what ever he can to cause us to stumble and fall and loose faith. That's his purpose. That's the wrath he has for us. Fortunatly we are given thed ability and authority to stand up against him in victory
VERY GOOD RAMON! God is not going to do the devil a favor by letting him torture ppl FOREVER! ESPECIALLY SINCE THE DEVIL HIMSELF WILL BE DESTROYED AND TURNED TO ASH IN THE LAKE OF FIRE! One of the key verses as far as the gathering together unto Christ is, "God has not appointed us to wrath". Another scripture would be, "Christ hath saved us from the wrath to come". Another key verse many people miss is during the time of Christ second coming to earth we are coming down with Him dressed in white riding white horses coming from heaven during the battle of Armageddon WHICH IS DURING THE GREAT TRIBULATION! HOW IN THE WORLD CAN WE THEN BE ON THE EARTH GETTING SLAUGHTERED AND COMING DOWN FROM HEAVEN WITH CHRIST JESUS AT THE SAME TIME!? U CANT BE AT TWO PLACES AT ONCE! GOD BLESS U RAMON!
Some great points. I for the life of me can’t understand why so called Christians don’t believe in the pre trib rapture that believe we actually go through the time of Jacobs trouble it’s so clear in the Bible.
It's truly a shame that most believers have do idea that the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 even happened, let alone the horrors that took place. An enormous amount of scripture points to this event.
Steffen Jeffen in 70? Do you mean the 1970’s? I’m confused...
@@starlingswallow speaking of AD70 when the Roman empire destroyed jerusalem
you have a gifted way of teaching. a very gentle spirit. :)
This was great. Thankyou, and may GOD bless you. I've watched a couple of your videos today, and His Anointing has settled upon me both times.
HALLELUJAH!
The LORD is good. Soon will be going Home.
HALLELUJAH! Amen.
hi i watched the video but i cant understand the rapture idea all the scriptures that you mentioned , they are not explaining anything about rapture . please explain
Thanks man for trying hard and share what you know. God bless you.
Great ability to share the word and clarify the words of ALL that the lord spoke through, just new to this channel and spending good time here! Thank you, John! Thank you Jesus!
Yes I understand these people thought that they miss the rapture you are correct amazing and finally I find someone on CZcams who understands what that he verse is actually saying
Wow, John. You are such a good teacher!!! Thank you for this video. I love learning more and more about the rapture.
Excellent teaching. Every point I've heard taught by others, in the order of things to come, fit perfectly with the teachings here.
Thank you for all these great scriptures pointing to the pre-trib rapture❤️
Get a good sense about this man. A sense that the holy spirit is with him. Thank you for this excellent teaching, it is a blessing.
Thank you so much! You have calmed my soul tonight!
I totally agree btw love your avatar picture :)
Now is the time feed his sheep!
In 2022 we are ever so close to Jesus coming back for his Bride🙏🏽 come soon, Lord!!
I just dont see it as a scripturally and exegiticallly grounded doctrine. See 119 ministries the error of pretrib rapture and its fallacy.
Thanks to John for the study and explanation of the Word and to the person who shared this video! God bless you all!!
I've noticed those that don't believe in pre-trib rapture believe Replacement Theology.
Great teaching brother very easy explanation on our Blessed Hope Soon And VerySoon God Bless you.
I love the name of your CZcams channel, awesome keep it up thank you brother, cuz even though our fellow brothers and sisters might be saved in Christ already, I know that a lot of them don't believe in the pre-trib rapture, and they deserve to know
You did an excellent job explaining the Rapture. Have been sharing your videos all over the place.
Is God's wrath the same as the great tribulation? If no believer is appointed unto wrath and wrath and great tribulation are the same. Does it mean that no believer of Christ will ever experience great tribulation?
Gr explanation, I like it , word of the Lord
He basically said Jesus treats gentiles and Jews differently.
Rupturing gentiles.
Yet the Bible says we are one the same. We all follow the same thing we all get treated the same.
The church - the body of Christ, there is no Jew or Gentile.
For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
Galatians 3:26-28 KJV
The Old Testament and in the time of Tribulation, there is distinction of Jew and Gentiles.
Jesus taught the gathering happens after the tribulation and Paul did also.
THE WORD OF GOD SAYS WE ARE SAVED FROM THE WRATH TO COME! The Word Of God says when Christ returns to earth at His second coming it is during the battle of Armageddon which is during the great tribulation AND WE ARE WITH HIM! How in the world could the Christian saints be coming back from heaven dressed in white riding horses WITH CHRIST AND BE DOWN HERE ON EARTH GETTING SLAUGHTERED? U CANT BE AT TWO PLACES AT ONCE! Many believer's miss this scripture and truth I just shared with u! GOD BLESS U JUSTIN!
Excellent truthful presentation.
Great reasoning! Thank you for this video!
Thank you this makes sense my Brother Lord bless you!
THANK YOU MY BROTHER. and the media will call blame it on ET's that took us, satan's deception till the end. Love in Christ, Mauricio
this is exactly what I believe
I teach theology and I really enjoyed this talk. Thanks.
Great explanation! Thank you brother.
Thank you Brother John. Truth well taught.
There is a teaching about the rapture only occurring during the Feast of Trumpets. I held this belief for a short time and I've begun to step away from it. Is this teaching scriptural?
This makes a lot of sense. But why does 1 Thess.4:16 say For the Lord himself *will descend from heaven* with a cry of command, with the voice of an archangel, and with the sound of the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first? Doesn't "descend" mean to come down to earth?
How is 69 weeks the same as 483 years? In reference to the 7 minute mark of this video.
Each day is taken as a year... There is a biblical precedent for this...
i don’t believe in the pre trib rapture but to answer your question: 1 day = 1 year
One of the best explanations I have heard. I am someone who knew very little about the subject. Very clear and well outlined.
Thanks Laura!
What will happen to our beloved pets when we go in the rapture ?...
Who will care and feed them ???😢
I BELIEVE THEY will go with us. So very many HEAVEN EXPERIENCE TESTIMONIES include ADULTS n CHILDREN who said they saw their pets who had died . 😊😊😊😊
Is preacher from Yuma Arizona just ran into this channel it was linked to a channel where I was watching the news Peter Smith about false prophets and I ran into this and I started listening to it where to go totally Bible field I like it I will listen to more to see how it goes God bless you and I was blessed with this message and totally agree my wife said she agrees to
Thank you. So clear. So uplifting. God bless
TruthOrTradition, thanks for this video. First, I agree that the Rapture moment IS separate from the return of Christ, because I believe the scriptures make this plain.
2nd, I believe the scriptures tell of WHEN all the descriptive verses, found in Corinthians, Thessalonians, Mathew, Mark, Luke, and other books, take place. It's in the Book of Revelation; the actual play, or movie, if you understand my analogy. Read all about the descriptions. Then Read the BOR for the WHEN or step-by-step moments, and you will find the rapture moment.
1 Cor 15: where it says, "Behold I shew you a mystery (or as you say, a secret thing), this passage describes how its possible for the dead, and the living are raised. Mortal bodies are changed into immortal bodies. Yeah, it describes the rapture too, but when? - At the last trump! When is the last trump? When is the Last Day, as other scriptures use, like John Chapter 6 mentions. When will the dead rise first? Rev 18 shows this, starting with the rapture in Vs 4. "Come out of her, my people..." Then insert all those rapture passages to describe this moment. THEN, will Jesus destroy the earth.
Vs 8 "Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death and mourning, and famine, and she shall be utterly burned with fire." The destruction of earth is what Jesus will rapture His People from!
Rev 18:4 says, "Come out of her, my people..." If we are raptured out before this, then why is Jesus saying this, in Rev 18 ! ? We, His People, must still be here including the dead, up until this point !
Rev 18 vs 4 (Rapture moment) IS separate and different than Ch 19:7. (Christ's return).
Very excellent presentation..
Thank You 🙏
So glad it blessed you!
Are there 2 resurrections before the return of Christ to the earth? Where is it in scripture?
Noah was mocked in the 120 years which he built the ark, and they didn't make it....people are mocking now. Believers will, just like Eight people, and the animals that came were saved, Noah didn't close and seal the door, God did!!! Jesus will come in the clouds, and gather the believers, the non believers will have to suffer the Great Tribulation/Jacobs trouble just like being taken by the flood of Noah's day. Mockers then and now, and will be suffering due to pride that started the whole mess.
very good........blessing from israel
Did Paul or the church have a description of the second coming? I thought revelation had not been written yet. Also those two things that have to happen ,the falling away ,and the man of sin revealed ,does that mean the church is going to be here when the antichrist comes on the scene? Waiting
Complicated? Think of it like you would, with a digital file and pointer; except God can literally start & stop, pause & review. To God, it's simplistic, and He explains it to several cultures in dozens of languages, over thousands of years. It's all just to help you see that God is 100% just to His precepts and His plan is on course. FOR US, we can patiently wait for our Father's plan to include our part. You can cause yourself wonderment, or just have the confidence in God's word.
This has helped me, thank you!
From darkness to light of the word is the important transformation , salvation is for an abundant life now while in flesh and blood bodies we are waiting for others to be born again and recieve the witness inside them of being reconcilled to God . Eternal life begins with being quickened (made alive ) by the giving of comforter (holy spirit) we shall not die . We do know that flesh and blood does not recieve the kingdom . God is spirit tge kingdom is spirit . Flesh will perish
❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️needed this,,thankyou so much for your insight and wisdom from above.
I always think, why would only those believers who live at the time of tribulation, be subjected to judgment? Believers beforehand got a free pass when they died during peace? Why would you be appointed to wrath for being (or trying to be) an obedient servant. You don't punish a child for listening. It's my understanding that believers in the days leading up to tribulation will either be brought out of the world, or be protected during tribulation. All very confusing and context must be understood. I pray daily for discernment and understanding.
This is awesome!!!
Thanks you- thank you!
Ok I’m a little confused right from the very beginning and I really hope I get an answer. I have always been taught pre trib but have been reading more and am wondering if the rapture is mid trib. I have been going back and forth and struggling with this the past week or so because I’ll hear or read something that makes so much sense to fit either pre or mid and then one little detail will come out following that making me second guess it all again. This is the detail that did it for me in your teaching.
Jews and gentiles. It makes perfect sense saying that after the rapture, it goes back to OT times where there is only Jew and gentile on earth now. But then you said “Jews that believe and don’t believe and gentiles that believe and don’t believe.” How can this be?!? If there are ones that believe, then why didn’t they get taken in the pre trib rapture?? Please please please I really need an answer to this.
Non-Believers Can Become Christians After The Rapture
Now we should ask, what happens to non-believers after the rapture? Can people become a Christian after the rapture? The answer is that at the rapture all Christians are removed from the earth. After the rapture, some non-believers will become Christians. The book of Revelation reveals that God will send the 144,000 witnesses (Revelation 7:4-8), the two witnesses (Revelation 11:1-10) and an angel to preach the gospel (Revelation 14:6) about Jesus Christ. The world will be called to repent but the vast majority will refuse and instead curse God (Revelation 16:21). That is there will be a second chance after the rapture for people to become a Christian. Revelation 6:9-11; 7:9-17 reveal that some people will become Christians in the tribulation. Yet, many of these Christians will die (Revelation 20:4). To become a Christian means almost certain death. Therefore, after the rapture, will there be Christians be on the earth? The answer is yes!
Please see my recent comment, maybe it will help.
Where does it says that only believers will hear or see him (Jesus)
I think it's inferred that only believers will see him because in Rev 1:7 we are told “every eye will see him, even those who pierced him" whereas in the rapture those that oppose Christ are not mentioned.
The sheep know the shepherds voice. The goats do not.
Awesome. Thank you.
🙌❤️MARANATHA!!🙌🙏😷
Well done! There may actually be a rapture prophecy in the O.T. Check out Isaiah 26:19-21. There is a "mistake" in the Hebrew text: My body, THEY will rise. Bad grammar, great theology. Very interesting....
only the church of the body of Christ are gathered together before the great tribulation. Isa.is addressed to Israel and must be speaking of the resurrection of the just. The great secret was kept hidden in God and was not made manifest until Christ told Paul some twenty years after the day of Pentecost! Also in John's teaching regarding his fifth point the saints are coming down from heaven with Christ Jesus at His second coming dressed in white riding horses! THIS IS DURING THE BATTLE OF ARMEGEDDON DURING THE GREAT TRIBULATION SO HOW IN THE WORLD CAN THE CHRISTIAN CHURCH BE DOWN ON EARTH GOING THROUGH THE TRIBULATION AND RETURNING FROM HEAVEN WITH CHRIST? U CANT BE IN TWO PLACES AT THE SAME TIME! I wish John would have pointed that out in his teaching! GOD BLESS U CONTENDER!
also Jeremiah 30:7, & Joel 2:31.
Yes I believe in this too ...
THANK YOU! INSPIRATIONAL.....
Thank you John!
Where are you referring to in Revelation for you second point?
Here is what I know Jesus told us that his followers would hear his voice and another they will not follow or hear. So Jesus said in Matthew 24:15-21 he says go read what Daniel says in Daniel 11:45-12:1 Revelation 16:1-15 . That's the word of God and the truth all else is a lie.
Amen
I've recently begun studying the Bible again and am finding my relationship with God again. But I don't have anyone to ask questions...could you help please? I recently reread revelations and was wondering if those who would be raptured are the 144000? It says those would not have to suffer the tribulation I believe....
I don't believe there is any doubt among any group that the rapture is for the church. The 144,000 appears too limited in number to be the church. These are from the twelve tribes of Israel who are evangelizing multitudes during the tribulation period along with the 2 witnesses.
God always has a remnant on earth at all times, the 144,000 is the protected remnant, protected from Gods wrath.
Thank you
You are so welcome. God bless you!
Just wanted to say you have a great smile
Amen and amen.
I will ask this question on every rapture video I see, It has yet to be sufficiently answered.
You, who plan to be raptured away, will you be taking your body with you to "wherever" and if so, HOW?
Our bodies will be transformed in an instant.
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Yeah. I hear that alot. It's not an answer. Are we talking "beam me up Jesus" or will you magically turn to vapors and woosh away.?
Tim Hallas The Bible says those sure are alive will be changed in the twinkling of an eye so that means our body will be changed into a on corruptible body it is you done instantaneously and then we go up to be with the Lord
Amen!
number 5 like that
It's not a secret, it parallels a Jewish wedding ceremony.
That's correct.
Mathew 24; 30 31, gathered up Rapture.
Mathew 25; 31 touch down, second coming conclusion.
Yeah ask us what they were lying about was the people that rose out of the graves after Jesus rose from the dead and they went into the city are they were telling him yeah you you miss the rapture so were the resurrection so that's what they were afraid of
Only way it makes sense.
Well be here for the seals and trumpets, not the bowls of wrath.. thats why it says at the last trump!
Before the bowls is "testing" not wrath.. and the lord isn't showing up for believers he's showing up for disciples! Those who deny themselves and carry there cross daily and follow him.. in the last century church very few do that!!
So prepare!!