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M-Vave Chocolate Demo: Advanced Custom Mode Tutorial | M-Vave Chocolate Advance Custom Mode Demo
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- čas přidán 18. 08. 2024
- Title: M-Vave Chocolate Demo: Advanced Custom Mode Tutorial | M-Vave Chocolate Advanced Custom Mode Demo
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In today's video, I will be demoing the Advanced Custom Mode of the M-Vave Chocolate in the Cube Suite App. Watch the full video to know more on this function. Enjoy!
Here are the Time Stamps:
00:48 Program Change A and B Recap
01:22 The Advanced Custom Modes
02:04 MIDI Numbers Explained
02:48 Mode 1 - Single Step (Single Bank)
05:26 Mode 2 - Single Step (2 Banks)
08:06 Mode 3 - Press Down-Release
10:33 Mode 4 - Long Step
12:39 Mode 5 - Step Short or Step Long
To have a full grasp on this new wireless MIDI Setup, I would like to recommend you to watch the full video demo first. Thanks.
M-Vave Chocolate Tutorial Video and In-Depth Demo (Program Change A):
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M-Vave Chocolate Demo (Program Change B):
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Wow, I think this will most likely also work for my MS-50G. Very exciting! Thx so much!
Yes bro. This works mostly on Zooms (cdr70, ms50g, g1xon, g1x four). Im collating videos here in yt about the compatible devices, becoz theres no official list on the manual.. For pedals with 5-pin midi ports, this will work 100%. But for pedals with USB Port, we have to check them yet first. Thanks for watching!
I would also like to recommend my in-depth demo (Program Change A) of the M-Vave Chocolate. The explanation was in there. Thank you Bro.
Thanks a lot for your information.
I got my controller today and am kind of ambiguous about it.
I wished the advanced custom mode would be more flexible, for example to have the options momentary or latching in all modes. Or to use the foot pin in a twofold way, short step and long step would send two different commands.
Welcome. Yes, what you mentioned could only function in advanced custom mode.. For the Program Change A and B, we can only toggle presets and change groups/banks
Also what is that stand for pedal? It seems very useful on the desk!
Thanks for the Tutorial..... once again, very detailed.
Thanks for watching bro. Really apprecate it!
We'll do the CC (Control Change) demo next.. Im still wrapping and working on it. I have the MIDI CC Map already, but I cant get it to work on the Chocolate.
Great video! Is it possible to change the numbers that appear on the M-Vave's chocolate display screen when changing between presets? I'm using the short press/long press configuration but it only shows a number eleven regardless of the preset.
❤the only normal movie on this controller. Thank you. And how to switch the effects inside the preset? Can I enter effects from the pedal into the settings? Did you connect the expression pedal to the controller?
Thanks for watching.
For controlling the effects inside the preset itself, its more on CC messages (control change messages). For that, we need the right midi codes for it to work. There is also a midi message called the SySex or system exclusive, those are codes for a specific function.
I didnt connect an expression pedal in this video.
So on my NUX MG300 it has micro USB... I would be able to have preset 1a 1b 1c 1d with, for instance:
base sound on a,
base sound with distortion on b,
base sound with distortion and over drive on c,
a clean sound on d,
(just like I can on my unit already)
but I use only my up-down 2 switches on my unit to go to 1-9 and then this pedal will allow me to directly go to any of the presets- a,b,c, or d and not use my unit pedal switch 3 times to go from 1a to 1d.
And then on top of that if I wanted I can press the switch a second time, say c: base sound with distortion and over drive and phaser that is from, say 7c (that I already made a preset the same as 1c but with something a little different?
Is what I am saying correct???
Gracias!!!! acabo de recibir mi cubabe y estoy emocionado:)
Wow!
Great video!! Can I configuraste chocolate to A and B change the presets and C and D up and down the Banks
Good day sir,
may i know if what's the cc value for patch up and patch down? Thanks
Hello, just subscribed to your channel, very interesting, congrats!
I already own a Getaria Bluetooth MIDI Adapter (wireless Bluetooth MIDI to USB) and a ZOOM MS 50G.
Can the M-Vave footswitch work with this MIDI receiver without having to buy another one?
Thank you 🙏
Thank You for this CZcams Video
Can the Chocolate be connected directly to the ZOOM MS-50G via the right USB cable, thus eliminating the MS-1 altogether ?
(... as I intend to have the ZOOM MS-50G and Chocolate Controller near each other on the floorboard )
Does this work with the refined + series?
Is it possible to configure an expression pedal connected in the chocolate, through advanced mode?
Hello. I havent tried that yet.
Do you have the same tutorial but for Mooer GE-150? Using M-Vave adapter (MS-1) and chocolate
None so far.
Is it possible to assign one of the buttons for the tap tempo of a delay?
@@dincorcelles yes. We need the Tap Tempo code
Great video!! If program Change A scrolls up to 32 presets, 8 groups with 4 presets each,
how can you access all 8 groups with only 4 buttons? For example, access group 1 setup, but then how can you get to groups 2, 3 etc.?
I have a separate video for that. Please check the In-Depth demo of the Program Change A. Thanks.
Can you link me to that video?@@EhrosmithTV
I watched that and if you setup up one row of switches, can you setup another on a different midi channel and access it?@@EhrosmithTV
Can you do multi press, so pressing two buttons at the same time activates something?
No. It doesent work with the advanced custom mode.
Good day sir! May i ask can i use the midi controller?
Like for example
1 preset only (contains 2 Delays 2 reverb)
The A = On/off or 1st delay
B= on/off of 2nd delay
C= on/off of 1st reverb
D= on/off of 2nd reverb
What youre asking is CC (Control Change). It works for midi controllers. BUT, you need to identify the CC Values and CC No. Of the slave device for it to work..
I actually tried researching if the Zoom CDR70 has CC codes. But I cant find anythinh in the net.
We must also check if the slave device supports the function that you are looking for..
Example. I have a line 6 M5.
Its CC Codes are for,
On/Off
Tap Tempo
Tuner Mode..
Salamat po sa answer na ito
Hello, and thanks VERY much for your tutorials. However I got a problem (probably after updating the firmware on MS-1, but I'm not sure). So I have MS-1, Chocolate and MS-50G. I've followed the tutorial with Advanced mode settings for the Chocolate and it instantly worked, there was no problems (Note - I powered MS-1 by plugging in to the power bank, then connected it to MS-50g with a USB cord and thus the MS-50g was also powered from the same USB port of the power band, there were no external power supplies and still it worked and I could switch presets).
Then I've decided to update the firmware MS-1 and to switch to Program Change A mode for the Chocolate and since that moment I'm not able to make the whole system work for ANY mode ( Program Change A, Program Change B, Advanced mode - none of them work.) I've tried to power MS-50g with a separate power supply, MS-1 was powered by the power bank (not sure which mode should I use OTG or HOST), but still it doesn't work.
I thought that MS-1 could be dead after upgrading, connected it to the PC and launched Cube Suit for Windows - it only shows Firmware upgrade line , no MS-1 logo or anything - is the same for you? Do you have .dat firmware files that could be used in Cube Suite for MS-1, probably some old firmwares?
Then I checked MS-1 in the DAW - it works, sends and receives MIDI commands.
However I can't use it with the Zoom MS-50g at all. Could you please help me somehow?
Thanks in advance for your work
Awts too Bad. You can try the OTA Upgrade again using a different cellphone.. I have 2 cellphones, the Cube Suite does not work on the older one, but it works on the newer CP. Thanks.
@@EhrosmithTV Hey, thanks for the reply. Probably this could help, gonna try to use another smartphone
Yes Bro. Hope you could work it out. Let me know. Have a nice day
awesome video. Quick Question: HOW can I enter and leave the Preset editing with the foot switch? Thanks
Sorry for the late reply. I think, thats not possible..i havent tried it yet..
I received this product today. Can I choose the pedal to turn on/off using custom mode?
For example, current [program cahnge C] mode, it is A button=fx and B button=amp etc.
then, is it possible to change B button=delay or something?
Yes
@@EhrosmithTV Thank you so much. Can you upload that how to setting or tell me blackbox's CC data1,2 code?
How is the quality of the tuner. ??
Its gets the job done. Works fine and responsive.
on my zoom G1x four i have no choice to use only program A and sadly the 4 banks did't work well when it comes to the third Bank which is footswith C
in footswitch C the first and second preset works when switching to the 3rd preset it fails..so on with The 4th Bank which is footswitch D
on the other hand i saw some reviews
using Advance Custom Mode they can switch up to 4 banks and each banks has 4 presets each..sadly i dont know how to set up my stuff like that
can you help us how they do that ?
because as far as i know in advance custome mode you cant switch to 4 banks..u can do it only in program A B and C ?? right??
please response to my comment..i would like to know that set up please 🙏
Thx a lot for your tutorial
How can I send pc
Command to recall midi functions? My pedal don’t have presents
You need to configure in CubeSuite app.
is it possible to use e and f for an extra preset and for muting?
Sa ngayon sir hindi pa ba kaya gawin stomp mode? Yung hindi per patch ang paglipat? Gusto ko sana gawin sa stomp na lang si Chocolate e. As of now ang napagana pa lang sa ganong setup is si Nux MG30. Si zoom kaya, sir? Salamat po!
Need natin ng CC Codes or SySex Codes Sir eh. Kaso wala ako makita
Hello sir under sa single step bank switching
Na switch A yung dalwang preset pwd mong ma recall diba?
Yung nkita kong problema ay pag galing ako sa switch B for example delay On/off ko lang yung A and b nya na recall
Then pag pindot ko ulit ng switch A ang mangyayare hindi yung bank na last ko xa iniwan yung ma rerecall kung baga ma nag rotate lng yung preset..
Better pki test to na problem sir
Ahm ganun na talaga sa Advanced custom mode. Hindi ka makakapag switch ng banks.
Presets lang yung mare recall nung 4 switches. Kaya sya advance custom mode.
Yung may bank changing ay Program A
I have the ms70cdr zoom and the ms50g zoom. Can I control them with two chocolate mvave at once? Each pedal with its controller separately. Do the signs intersect? or what will happen?
That will work. As long as the cdr70 and ms50g has their own M-Vave Chocolate and MS-1 Receiver. . I think the only problem with 2 Mvave chocolate is inadvertent/wrong device connection..
You just need to turn them on one at a time. Ex. You need to turn on the 1 mvave chocolate that is intended for cdr70.. Then, once they're connected, thats the time youll turn on the mvave setup for ms50g.. We need to avoid a wrong device connection.. Hope this helps.
@@EhrosmithTVtwo diferent cell phones too?
What do you mean by two different Cellphones?
If its regarding the Cube Suite App configuration, you can use one CP.. But if your going to configure the M-Vave Chocolate and MS-1 in Cube Suite app. You need to do in one at a time only, since its a bluetooth connection. It requires one bluetooth device at a time..thnks
Can you do 2 or more pedals at the same time using the m-vave chocolate while also using the zoom ms?
I havent tried that. Thanks
Anyone else having issues with this unit losing the connection with your iPad? I thought at first this was a great little controller (4 midi-assignable foot switches), but I've had continuing issues with the unit losing connectivity with my iPad. Sometimes it's after 10 minutes, sometimes after 60, but this consistently happens. I'm using an 2021 iPad Pro, running IOS 15.4.1. The unit is about 3 feet from my iPad. I've put the pedal aside and will not be using it again unless I can identify a solution to the problem.
Sorry for the late reply. I havent have any problem with the connection eversince. Have you tried to OTA Update your unit? I updated mine, and theres no problem at all.
I don’t have this footswitch, but I have one of their bluetooth midi keyboards (labeled as asmuse). I had connection troubles on my mac the second day I had it after using it successfully on my ipad. Then it was disconnecting from ipad as well. I tried shutting off bluetooth on my mac or ioad when I was using the other one and haven’t had any issues since then. It appears that it was trying to connect to both devices and therefore disconnecting from both very shortly after being connected.
Maybe you are having an issue with the same root cause?
I have the Zoom MS-100bt which is controlled exclusively via Bluetooth ...can this BT controller pair with my BT slave?
There's someone in our fb group shared that it cant control the ms-100bt.
I believe that the Ms-1 Receiver is still needed for the whole setup to work.
Thank you!
Is there a way to power the MS-1 using a pedalboard daisy chain, such as the Diago or One Spot?
A PSU with USB port will do.
Incredible!!!
Do you know if we managed to activate the tap tempo?
We just need the midi cc message for the tap tempo, and we just need to do it like in this video.
@@EhrosmithTVi looked for it but i didn't find it.. maybe it's more difficult for me, my native language is not english. Could it be that you can't get the midi message?
Great vid. I have an iphone. ios support?
Yes. It says in the website that this supports ios.. though, i havent tried that yet.
Hi, would those tutorials for MS-70CDR work for MS-50G? One more question, when you connect the M-Wave pedal to the Cube Suita app and set it up, do you have to disconnect the Bluetooth connection with the iPhone, so the pedal can pair with the wireless transmitter? Thank you for your help.
Yes, its the same with the MS50G. I have a separate video for the How To Connections.
Yes, you are right. You need to turn off the Cellphone's bluetooth, so that the M-Vave Chocolate and MS1 Receiver will successfully pair to each other.
If there are many active bluetooth device, the chocolate and Ms1 might NOT connect. Thanks
Thank you very much for your response, I was looking for that "How to Connect" video, but could not find one with that title?? Is there any setup that needs to be done on the Zoom pedal? @@EhrosmithTV
Sorry Man, the title is M-Vave Chocolate Tutorial Video. You may also browse my M-Vave Chocolate Playlist for all the related videos and in-depth demos.
Good day sir aerosmith, i have tried to use your config each step of setting the custom config. And it seems its not maching the corresponding value on my MS 70CDR.
I have a separate video for the "How to Setup". If you haven't watched it yet. Watch it first before going back to this video. This setup is not plug and play, you need to midi map everything the first time. Thanks
buenas tardes me podrias informar como conectar este sistema con una pedalera valeton gp100
Hello! Can this be use to navigate the effects chain per preset?
I think no. Though I havent tried it yet.
What you are looking for is a CC Command (Control Change). For that function, we need to identify the CV Values and Numbers of the slave device
@@EhrosmithTV thanks good sir!
Hi, is it possible turn on and off diffrent effects in the same patch using the midi controller? Thank you in advance
It can, but I don't have the Midi CC codes. So its not possible at the moment. I've been looking for that ever since
@@EhrosmithTV thank you so much for your answer. I really need turn on and off effects in the same patch, because, changing patch, if I am using delay, the tail of dalay is cutted
Welcome! You may search videos of other youtubers for this topic. Sorry, I dont have one yet.
Hi sir. Can you make video how to partner chocolate to cuvave cube baby?
Hello. Unfortunately, the Cube Baby is not midi supported, hence, we cant connect it to Chocolate.
Hello! The cubesuite is not working in my phone
Hello, I am not sure why.
@@EhrosmithTV I fix the chocolate but the zoom is still not working.
I can control the tap tempo ?
I also want to know.
Ayaw gumana ng ibang modes sa Zoom G3Xn ko.
Yung Program Change A lang yung gumagana pero hanggang patch 3 lang yung change
Hi Sir. Gumana naman ung s akin sa mode a at ung mode B. Nun binago q ung patch s zoom ms 50 g q, nde n sya gumana. Pano b i initialize ito? Do I need to update ung app to solve this issue?
Nag midi map ka Sir sa Cube Suite? Need mag midi map kasi hindi automatic itong advanced custome mode unlike prog. A and B.
I followed every instruction on this video, but my MS70 didn't work. I used Android. Unfortunately, can you help me?
Sorry for the late reply. What seems to be your specific problem? Thanks
Have u tested the new interface tab in advanced mode?
I havent tried it yet..
thanks
Welcome!
Boa tarde, consigo usar o m-vave com a valeton gp100?
Sorry. I dont understand Spanish.
So this device cant do turn on/off effects in every preset. Let say, preset 1 : chorus - delay - reverb . So i want to scroll left to turn delay on / off ? Its not possible with this cuvave ?
Its not possible as of the moment.. What you're saying is a CC or Control Change. Its a custom control for a specific parameter like, on/off, tap tempo or tuner.. The M-Vave Chocolate is PC (Program/Preset Change) and CC Supported.
But for us to use the CC, we must first identify the CC Values and CC Number of the slave device (Zoom CDR70).
Unfortunately, I cant find any info on this for the Zoom Cdr70.
Thanks.
@@EhrosmithTV Reaaly appriciate th answer. Thank you
Im also looking for that function. I cant find any material on the internet..
Unlike my Line 6 M5. It has a provided midi map in its manual. I use my midi controller to turn on and off the presets of M5. Same with the Tuner and Tap Tempo.
But for the zoom, its has no midi mapping in the manual.
Sir di po matrace ng phone ko ang MS1 ko. Android phone po ako. Bukas naman po bluetooth ko. Updated din po cibe suite app ko. Pano po kaya to? 🥺
Try nyo po sa ibang cp po. Namimili ata yung cubesuite app ng pag gaganahan
Baka pwd
mo ma connect ito
whammy dt digitech
If midi supported si Whammy dt, most like pede ito Sir. Same lang naman ito sa mga other midi controllers. So happened lang na wireless itong mvave chocolate.
What if i want yo assign pressets to a,b,c and tap tempo to swtich d ?
Its not possible as of the moment. Its the CC protocol, but I dont know the CC Value of the tap tempo of the zoom. Im still researching CCs.
Sir, may demo kau pano e setup for Control Change (CC)?
Wala pa Sir. Gawan ko po soon . Salamat po
@@EhrosmithTV abangan ko sir 🙂 thanks!
When will u try with a usb hub?? Also a shame u didn't go into the other options like CC etc
Sorry Bro. I dont have another device to be connected..I only have the cdr70..
For the CC, its not possible now because I cant find any CC values for the cdr70 in the internet..
Sorry for the late reply.
@@EhrosmithTV but don't u have the line6 M5?
The cdr70 works on MS-1 Midi B.
While the M5 works on Midi A.
The bluetooth is exclusive to one device only. It will not work.
but I will try if the 6.35mm will work together with the Midi B connected
sir ung up and down ba pagpapalit ng effects controlled din?
Hindi Sir. Preset Change lang suported nya.
sir pwede kaya ito sa boss gt1? salamat po sa response🙏🏻
I havent tried it yet Sir. But if midi supported naman yung gt1. Most likely this will work.
Try ko sa gt1 ng pinsan ko. Balitaan kita. sir
@@EhrosmithTV thank you po in advance, Godbless
Pwedeng stomp mode?
Hindi ko pa natry Sir. Preset mode pa lang nagawa ko.
Alamin ko pa yung sa stomp mode. Kasi CC na iyon (control change). Left/right/ on and off kasi.
Itong vid ay PC (Preset Change)
Does it work on mooer ge150?
Thanks for watching Man. Sorry, I haven't tried it yet with a mooer ge150. Im not also sure if the ge150 is midi supported.
But, if its midi supported. It will work with m-vave chocolate or any other midi controller out there.
Have a happy weekend !!
Is the function the same even if you use a trs cable?
Yes Man. Its just the same. The Bluetooth receiver works great if you have a USB Slave Device..
If your slave device has 5pin midi port, I suggest to use the MIDI-A (wireless 5pin). Or the 1/4 inch TRS to 5pin Jack. I have separate video for these. You may also want to check them. I used them on my Line 6 M5.
@@EhrosmithTV I want to use it on an NUX MG30 and I thought about just using the TRS-to-TRS and not TRS-to-MIDI.
Bossing pede kaya iset as expression pedal yung press dosn release mode?
Not sure Sir. Sa CC na ata yun. Need ng cc values for that
I want A - B to be left - right and C - D to be up - down
How to?
I believe its on the CC Protocol (Control Change). But for us to do that, we must know what CC Values the zoom will respond. I dont know the cc values yet.
@@EhrosmithTV are in the column (advanced custom mode) ?
how to draw it?
This is same to zoom ms50g ? BTW Thanks for this tutorial :)
Yes Sir. Just the same for both slaves. Thanks!!
@@EhrosmithTV Thank you. In switch B can you also put banks C & D?
Es genial!!
Thanks!!
Sir pwede po kaya ito sa Amplitube 5 standalone app for windows pc?
Ang alam ko Sir pede. May demo na si Joseph Capuno. Check nyo po.
Sorry late reply.
@@EhrosmithTV Yes sir natry ko na, problem lang need niya naka plug in. Hindi pwede bluetooth😅
bat kaya di ko mapagana sakin
Napanuod nyo na Sir yung in-depth tutorial ko sa Setup? Madaming factors kaya di nagana, like USB cables, midi message etc.
@@EhrosmithTV san nyo po nabili yung pang connect don sa receiver baka po don ee di po nag fufunction ee di ren po nag gglitch yungscreen ng zoom ko parang feeling ko di sha nkokonnect don sa ms 70cdr ko
Meron po akong link sa description Box
@@EhrosmithTV yung usb cable ko kse tig 50 pesos lng ee di po kaya don yon?
Reco ko na high quality cables talaga. Lahat ng cables ko is Ugreen or Vention lang. Para walang hassle sa recording. 100+ lang naman
Hello! Can this be use to navigate the effects chain per preset?
I havent tried Sir. Some says its available via Sysex Midi Messages. But, thats complicated.. I dont know how to utilize that yet.