Moynat needs to regroup | Nicholas Knightly | Anesu Sagonda
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- čas přidán 22. 08. 2024
- In this video I discuss my thoughts on a recent major discovery I made at Moynat.
I share my personal thoughts as to what I think this may mean for Moynat if the issue is not rectified soon.
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Oh I am so sad to hear that Moynat has been struggling😢. I bought the Rejane bb during my trip to Paris this past December. The range of colours for the Gabrielle Clutch is soooo amazing, too! I hope they find a Creative Director who can take Moynat to where it should be, and most of all, retain the superb artisans behind those artful pieces.❤
I hope it also works out too.
Thank you for bringing this to light. The situation occurs when large holding companies play musical chairs with their creative directors, shuffling them around without consideration for heritage or quality. I look for consistency in luxury brands, lacking now with Moynat. When Ramesh left, his fan club was bereft and didn’t buy the new designs.
Another example is Delvaux who haven’t had a creative director since Christina Zeller left after the brand was purchased by Richemont. Supposedly they’re still looking, almost 3 years later. I certainly haven’t bought a Delvaux bag since then. I literally mourn Christina’s departure.
It’s painful to watch and I don’t know if both brands are going to have a positive outcome. Still waiting for a response from Delvaux 🤦🏾♀️
i know what you mean, it’s such a shame😢
@bimblaq it’s painful to watch
I do not find LV the sort of brand that leans to elegance. In my opinion, it has become a fast fashion with an aesthetic that is gauche.
Hopefully Moynat will find their path.
Fingers crossed!
Agreed
Oh such a shame 😢 I love Moynat. Thank you for sharing. I am between purchasing from Moynat or Joseph Duclos and your guidance helps right now
A big shame…even if it was the Moynat of former glory i would still recommend Joseph Duclos. Consumers are getting considerable more quality and craft from Joseph Duclos than any brand is offering or can offer.
Girllllll… Please keep us in the know. I count on you for that. I soooo trust ur opinion.
I will do!
This is very sad and shocking to hear, although, on hindsight, not surprising. Hopefully they are able to pick themselves up.
It sure is. Fingers crossed they will get through the storm bigger and better.
@@SoAnesu I purchased the Gabrielle Clutch after coming across the brand on your channel and am very glad I did. The workmanship is outstanding and, dare I say, above Hermes.
I agree I’m pausing on any new Moynat for now!
I feel LVMH is the worst of the luxury conglomerates when it comes to pushing for ever-bigger margins by lowering costs and therefore quality. 🤦🏻♀️ They have been purposeful and fairly upfront about it to their shareholders.
(Sometimes I wonder if Bernard Arnault personally sought out the worst hardware in the world and now they have a stockpile for all their brands!?!)
I too hope they don’t “ruin” Moynat with its history of beautiful craftsmanship.
Sadly they may just be doing that but let’s give them a chance and let’s wait and see what comes out this year.
@@SoAnesu Yes! I do still keep an eye on new releases; I hold out hope my favorite luxury brands will improve the quality again. We just don’t know how long it will take.
I was a big Moynat fan & used to shop there a lot, they had one of the best customer service as well as top notch quality.
Unfortunately with new creative director some of my favorite totes were discontinued & new designs became tacky🙁
I absolutely agree with you, Ramesh era Moynat was the best
I remember those days and sadly they will only ever be a distant memory.
@@SoAnesu this is so sad😢
Over past few years Moreau has discontinued & changed designs as well, i wonder if they’re going through same thing
Pressure of LVHM cost cutting is inevitable , look at the redesigned puzzle from Loewe
Yes but at what cost? 12-18 months from now I would it shocked if the brand disappeared altogether!
@@SoAnesu the brand only exists because they created it from a defunct brand name . Same with Moreau, LVHM are masters at this cynical marketing and value creation
Moynat was a maroquinerie open by a women the first until then it was a men kind of work. Not allowed to women. Yes she was specifically working! For automobile thrunk
Thanks so much for such an informative discussion. It is a pity that Moynat is struggling. You made it very clear that the quality and craftsmanship of the new designs is inferior to Ramesh's previous designs and you can no longer recommend Moyat. I was planning on purchasing a new Gabrielle. Has the craftsmanship and quality of the Gabrielle now being introduced deteriorated since Ramesh left--or is it just the new designs? Are they cutting corners with old designs like Rejane and Gabrielle? Thanks!
Yes the quality of Ramesh’s bags that are now being made by Moynat has gone down.
I think that the departure of the CD is a good thing. The designs were not working and not growing followers. I was a Ramesh faithful and I think Moynat needs to get back on track. I had a lovely visit to Moynat in October. The Ramesh bags will never die.
Agreed but I’m not convinced they will ever be able to get back on track to the same Ramesh Nair level.
That is sad to hear about Moynat. I truly hope they are able to find a way move forward and appoint a new creative director. Thank you for your honest opinions!
I hope so too it will be sad to lose the brand.
Very professional. I admire your grace despite their silence.
Thank you Shola.
Forget. It is true it is not like in 19 century hand made now it is machine sewing and it is own by LVMH.
Dear Anesu , i do have 5 moynat bags , all from Ramesh era . If you need any pictures, videos or input from my side on them , let me know. Kind regards
Good to know! Thank you.
Hello!
Where are you based?
It is unfortunate that most of not all these brands are cutting corners
A good number are but luckily not all!
I am also disappointed to see that Moynat is experiencing difficulties with its creative designs. I actually purchased a Flori bag based on your recommendation and agree that the metal clasp is difficult to open nonetheless it is beautifully made. Let's hope that they come around and recruit someone who understands the importance of exceptional quality and craftsmanship.
Fingers crossed I’m sending them loads of positive vibes they get through this tricky patch. Enjoy your bag.
I wish I could purchase from your online shop, but I’m still a student and don’t make my own living :(. I hope to do so in the future when I can. Please continue creating the beautiful content you always do.
You definitely will one day soon.
It is really nice that you are reaching out to brands but as a rule they do not reply to inquiries from the general public. They only respond to businesses that they work with on the supply chain, employment, financial institutions, and retail. This goes double for well established brands with international headquarters.
I’m not sure what rules you are referring to but that hasn’t been my experience with the other brands I have reached out to and they have responded positively.
@indoora please re read what you wrote you went on to categorically state “they do not reply” and then several other sentences which I think were unnecessary. There was no ambiguity in your comment. Thank you for watching my content.
Funny thing is - the brand has been having price increases while you mention the quality is slowly failing. I own a gaby purchased a few years back and it is made of the softest, most delectable leather I've ever seen. Perfect interior and exterior. I would like to check out their leathers again to compare but the current prices are making me think twice.
So true! Price rises don’t represent a rise in quality or craftsmanship!
Moynat sadly doesn't have an identity beyond "we had Ramesh Nair" which falls apart when he's been gone for a few years already. They are competing for clients who can afford Hermes, but realistically only those who choose to either not play the pre-spend game or want something different. Therefore, their bags (style, color) needed to be memorable enough to justify the price. But even the hype from influencers (it seemed like in 2018, everyone had a Réjane) has completely died down. Moynat relied too much on its creative director but couldn't keep their interest organically. Of course his fans are now following him to Joseph Duclos, going back to Hermes. LVMH also seems to invest more in JD right now
Joseph Duclos and LVMH are you saying they are linked?
In your video last year about the holy trinity, you put Moynat firmly at the top (second only to Joseph Duclos and ahead of Hermes), selected the Flori as a showcase bag for the brand, and said that Nicholas Knightly had - and I quote - “raised the game”. That was 8 months ago. I’m having trouble reconciling that video with your view today: surely the quality has not dropped off a cliff in the space of just 8 months, which was already long after Ramesh Nair had gone. I also note that you made another video around the same time where you had only good things to say about the Flori. Were you wrong then?
I don’t think it’s a case of being right or wrong. Ramesh built a phenomenal brand there is no doubt about that as the evidence speaks for itself (the Flori and ensuing bags were built solidly on his legacy) but at some point Moynat started to undo all of his good work one step at a time and now the effects are slowly starting to come through.
I noticed that you are comparing brands from different standards. Moynat's focus is handmade goods like Hermes, to compare them with Dior and Chanel that do not focus on handmade goods is like comparing Rolls Royce to BMW. They are all high-end but their demographics are not the same.
I didn’t compare i referenced brand equity which is relevant in this context.
@@SoAnesu Now I understand. When I look at what each brand you named offers and how they make their products I find the reference is not of equal brands. The craftsmanship of Dior and Chanel is nowhere near that of Hermes. I enjoyed your analysis, and you offered some really good points.
Thank you for watching my content.
I have a Ramesh Pauline and have long wanted to add a Rejane. Can you (or anyone) advise me how I could identify a Ramesh Rejane on the second hand market? How does one date Moynat bags?
I’m not sure now as the bags have changed if you bear with me I’m trying to get hold of a pre2020 Ramesh bag and a post 2020 and I’ll create a video detailing the differences. It will take a little while but it’s a much needed video.
:(. I hope they get things sorted.
I hope so too
I really wanted to buy the Gabrielle this year 😢
😢 I just don’t think you will get the same quality…
Great vlog x
Thank you.
So sad I really love the brand. What was the time period he was there? This is what happens when corporate mokey mucks get involved in day-to-day operations, making decisions based on profits and not looking at the overall picture.
Sad times. March 2020 I started questioning 9 months ago if he had left as nothing was happening and the only release last year was the Envelope but I only received confirmation 3 weeks ago.
Thanks for the follow-up. What was the timeframe that Ramesh was there@@SoAnesu
@comfynlux5695 9/10 years
Thank you I will look for a bag from about -10 years ago.@@SoAnesu
@comfynlux5695 look for Moynat bags made between 2019 and 2011 those will all be Ramesh’s.