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Don’t waste your money on an expensive Z790 board if you aren’t buying basically anything over than the 13900K - buy one of these instead. This is a B760 board - this specific one is the Asus TUF B760-PLUS WIFI D4 - but the majority of these new B760 boards are what you should be looking at. They are somewhat more limited, like you can’t overclock your CPU, and come with less I/O overall, but for 99% of gamers you won’t mind. In fact, the extra cash you save buying one of these can be used on a higher end GPU, more storage, or even a higher end CPU instead netting much better performance overall.
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In my country(Bulgaria), the price of ASUS TUF GAMING B760-PLUS ddr5 WIFI is 268 euro.
MSI Pro Z790-A ddr5 wifi is 265 euro.
For my 13700 I got MSI pro z790 mobo and will do it every time at those prices. Yes, there are no blinking lights but it has all that needed.
Check all Details on the Board. The Chipset is only one part. Many Companys try to save money on other components.
The TUF B760 for example, use only WLAN 6, not 6E, and only the 897 Realtek Soundchip. While the Z790 use the ALC 1220.
Instead of the Asus TUF B760 you can use the Asus Strix B760 Gaming-A Wifi D4. You pay 30 Euro more, but get Wifi 6E, ALC 4080 plus an AMP and DTS.
in real life there is no difference between wifi 6 and 6e and same goes for all of the things you mentioned
How often have you used the front panel audio? On mine I have never used it. It is plugged in to the motherboard but I never plugged in headphones. I barely ever use the front USB either.
@@nimadehkhoda8189 So a Asus B760 Tuf mobo with a i7 13700k and 4070 GPU am i just throwing things together here? or does this work okay as a bundle?
Currently the TUF B760 is cheaper to buy in Switzerland than the B660. I particularly like the 3 ARGB headers and the USB-C front connector.
I have a i9 13900KS in a Strix B760 + a 4090... while I often wonder why I didn't go for a Z board it turns out overclocking the i9 13th gen is the last thing I would want to do with just a 360 AIO... I bought the KS variant because it was on sale and they tend to be binned - it wasn't because I wanted to overclock it. Having watched a few videos on side by side benchmarks where the only difference is the MB there is little or no difference in gaming
buying a strix board when you buy a locked chipset, seems like a BIG waste of money. I would have gone for a midrange MSI/Asrock or similar board, asus overcharges for strix stuff, and its typically not worth it unless your on highend chipset and deeply into overclocking/has op cooling and crasy highend gpu to boot.
i have i7 13700f in a rog strix b760 f gaming WIFI with rx 6800xt and I'm very happy with my decision and of course i can run i9 13900 on ultra performance and maybe 14th gen processors.
In my place, B760 DDR5 motherboard was around 130 dollar while the cheapest Z790 boards was 225 dollars online. The retail could be more expensive in my place consider mine was a bit remote compare to the rest of the world.
a few days ago my asus tuf z690 board gave out, so i had to find a replacement and instead of getting another z90 board i decided to save some money and go with the msi pro b760m-p ddr4 board and threw in my 12700k and 6650xt and so far b760 board is great for the $100 i dished out for it
Have you noticed any cons so far? I really wanted a z670m or z760m for my 12600k pc im building but they are cheapest atm $195, so I'm thinking of a msi pro b760m-a wifi ddr5 or possibly an asrock b760m pg riptide ddr5. Any thoughts appreciated. Also like the idea of a mobo that can handle a possible upgrade later maybe if needed can jump up to a 13 or 14700k in 3-5years if needed.
i have i7 13700f in a rog strix b760 f gaming WIFI with rx 6800xt and I'm very happy with my decision and of course i can run i9 13900 on ultra performance and maybe 14th gen processors.
im gonna buy an i5-12400 + MSI MPG Z790 Edge WiFi DDR4 Motherboard at the end of year sales, bc the price difference between an MSI mag B660 Tomahawk WiFi DDR4 and the later mentioned is like 50 bucks + i want to upgrade in the future to a better CPU if needed.
Can it o’clock and undervolt ?
B760 doesn't support NVME M.2 RAID which is ridiculous. Are we supposed to just trust NVME ssd's forever? I'm trying to do Raid 1 and cannot
I would go one step further and recommend buying a micro ATX B760 board. Most of us are only going to install a graphics card so the extra PCI-E slots are wasted on full sized ATX boards anyway and the number of m.2 slots on a micro ATX board are plenty at 3(top slot drive for windows installation and the 2 bottom slots for applications and games with a 3.5" HDD for storage. That is plenty for most people. Some don't even install a graphics card(I can't afford to buy one, not when a good card costs around £500 or more). For CPU I would go with either a i3(if on a low budget) or an i5 or i7 if you got more money spare(make sure to buy one with graphics built in even if you are installing a graphics card, if the graphics card is faulty or fails later you are without a workable PC whilst the card is away on RMA).
aren't micro ATX boards more expensive? :) I have genuenly no idea cuz have been building massive cases with custom WC loops for years, but generally speaking, compact form factors are considered a benefit so generally they cost more
@@xtrash1oveIt seems to depend, Itx do tend do be more expensive and tend to have less options/features. But from my research overall has been between atx and micro atx, micro atx tends to be a little cheaper and offers most of the same features but being slightly smaller and usually offering 1 or 2 less pcie slots, but recently looling at some of the intel boards specifically Zseries I've seen some of those cheaper but might just be that the full size are on a bigger sale or possibly because alot of the matx are sold out not totally sure. I was originally looking at building a ryzen system so maybe its more of ryzen matx boards run cheaper.
@@xtrash1ove itx is expensive, mATX not so much. Just watch out for PCIE slots distribution, too many board makers tend to put PCIE x1 slots under the GPU (where they´re useless).
question. current boards have 1x 8pin for cpu power and additional connectors next to it. sometime a 4pin, somtimes another 8 pin. do i have to connect both if iam not planning on ocing and getting a 13400f anyway? my current board, just has 1x 8pin and supports a 8700k , a 125watt cpu. why would i need 2x8 pin, for a 65 watt 13400?! or a regular non oced 13600k? thinking about upgrading my i7 8700f to a 13600k , set it to 90watt draw max, take my 32gig ddr4 and keep that combo for ~5 years. only thing i have to say: design wise, boards for 13th gen, changed. the look minimalized, not as stylish and blinky, as 10th,11th or 12th gen.. like theres a lot less style.. its more like 8 years ago again
You only need to connect to one. You can connect to both though if you want. The extra socket is mostly for when the CPU needs more power from the PSU. If you aren't doing any intensive CPU tasks it only needs the one 8 pin socket. I think one 8 pin socket draws up to 150w so the two 8 pin sockets will draw up to 300w. A i7 13700k draws at max load 253w to 300w. Other times only 125w. The full specs are on the Intel website. The i7 13700 draws 65w at normal load up to 150w at max load but it is only 2.4ghz compared to the 13700k which is 3.4ghz.
The vast majority of gamers doesn't use overclocking features because they don't know how to tinker with the CPU and motherboard.
The more advanced users use overclocking features but barely get any noticeble performance improvement because Intel K series CPU already comes "pre-overclocked" out of the box.
So if buying a intel k cpu do you really not need a z series board just a good quality b760?
@@pinkfiffty3094 Z series board is for overclocking and overclock is optional. Nowadays, Intel K series CPU is already clock so high that overclock is almost pointless. So, a good quality B760 board is already capable to deliver good experience. The only other reason I could think of for buying Z series motherboard is M.2 NVMe dan SATA capacity. Most B760 can only support 2 M.2 SSD and 4 SATA ports. For gaming and most users, it's mostly enough. Most PC cases nowadays only have 2x 3.5" HDD bay and 2x 2.5 HDD/SSD bay.
Will a b760 board run a i9 14900k ?
I am really struggling in between b760 or z790 to pair with a 13700k. I know b760 cannot overclock and do you know if I can still edit the PL1 and PL2 by myself? or is it fixed at auto?
Did u get b760 board?
you can undervolt and change pl1 and pl2 no problem
So a Asus B760 Tuf mobo with a i7 13700k and 4070 GPU am i just throwing things together here? or does this work okay as a bundle?
is with the B760 or the H770 Mainboard undervolting possible? And could I OC the Cpu now or not? What does it mean "only limited to stock clock speed no overclocking"? Thanks in advance :D I´m asking because I ordered a Asus TUF H770 Pro WiFi and a 13600k.
On the Intel side you can't oc other than z-series board but from 11th gen and onwards you can oc ram only. And yes you can undervolt any CPU on any motherboard with the help of software. But I'm not sure if you can undervolt from motherboard settings(bios).
@@gameotic1 ok thanks, looks like I can OC and undervolt in the Asus Bios (TUF H770 pro WiFi). But it a litte bit different to the Z Boards.
You must live in Europe because I've been looking for the Tuf H770 here in the US and I can't find it. I don't think they've even released it here.
u might not notice undervolting in gaming.
Bought a pre-built rig couple month back sporting a B760 pro & I5 13400f, i mainly play counter strike and it turns out im missing a good 50 fps by not running a 13600k instead, would i run into any issues if i threw in the latter/faster cpu and kept the b760??
lemme know how that worked out!
how can @TechteamGB reccomend a board for over 330€?
i bought i7 13700k and b760 ddr5 wifi 6 is it gonna be ok with a little overclock?would i have a problem in the future in anyway?
How is it going with your cpu & processor combo?
what about for 12900k?
Is there an ITX sibling to this board?
If you want DDR5 then you have to get z790, only 1 b760 runs ddr5. And The Price for that board is quite expensive
You can get a Tomahawk or a Rog strix B series board for ddr5 but it's better to invest that money on z690 or z790
There are at least two B760 boards that use DDR5 that I know of and they are both ASrock boards, the Steel Legend and the Sonic boards(technically it is the same board with different designs). Only about £160 to £175.
@Blue what abt Aorus b660 pro ddr5 bcoz am getting in for 195$..is it gud for pairing with 13500 or 13600k without OC?
@Blue yes 195$ bcoz in india we have to pay 18% tax along with original price...but am looking for an answer should i buy b660 pro aorus for 13500 or 13600kf without overcloacking only for gaming purpose
@Blue bro i saw one youtuber said if you buy for only gaming then buy R5 7600x rather than 13500...that processor is same cost as 13500 and gigabyte gaming x full atx board is for 230$ i know cost will be around 40$ more on AMD but i will have option to upgrade in future so whats combo you will suggest plz guide me🙏
Not only can you not overclock the CPU, you can't undervolt it either, which is very beneficial for the hot 12th and 13th gen Intel CPUs.
you can. Well, that depends on the exact Bios version but generally speaking on Asus and MSI boards look for "Microcode Selection" or something similar. It should have the option called "No UVP", which means "No undervolting protection". With this mode you can set negative voltage offsets in BIOS.
@@nat-ec6ic oh wow those greedy fucks never stop surprising me
Some of them you can. My gigabyte b760 aorus elite ax has an option to downgrade the microcode to before intel disabled it. You might also be able to do this by downgrading the bios. As long as you have ucode version 0x104, undervolting works.
@@jessefisher1809, thanks, I didn't know that. Taking this option away is even more of a dick move than never providing it in the first place.
@@VioletGiraffe Yeah especially when, power draw has (arguably) become more of a problem than plundervolt ever was.
PCIe5 m.2 has been shown at CES and is just around the corner. They will be here much sooner than a GPU that will benefit from PCIe5. The m.2 PCIe5 drives will be abundant and cheaper by then, and direct storage games will probably have happened.
Whats killing me is that I went to see the finer features of the board by myself and the link is broken lmao. Looked it up on Newegg in the USA...$189 -_-
Z690 and Z790 offer a better upgrade path if someone wants to move forward with their 12th or 13th gen 3-5 years from now. The ~$60-$80 (USD of course) saved here will push you to buy a new mobo down the line. The thinking is a bit short sighted imo, I very much agree with you.
Some Z790 boards will support a gen 5 m.2 drive. The only problem then is your graphics card speed is reduced to 8 lanes due to the limitation of the CPU. I assume 14th gen Intel chips will have 24 gen 5 lanes?
I am currently building a new PC, and I am seriously confuse which CPU should I buy? The Intel i5-13400F or i5-13600KF? I have already bought Gigabyte B760 and RTX 3070 TI.
I recommend the i5 13400f you dont need better. they have like 10% performance difference but if you have the money go for the 13600kf.
this is just my opinion if you gonna have a 13th gen cpu pls dont use a b board go to at least a H760 board H are made for gaming B is for more casual work and the VRM on B boars are shit most of them
im gonna build a new pc for me in like 2 more month gonna buy a 13500 a Z690 or Z790 board and a 4070
motherboard is the brain of your pc that distribuits energy to cpu gpu etc if you have a cheap/midicore borad for a 13th cpu and 3070 ti its a no good for me
@@soulofcinder3694 you misunderstanding. Z is high end
B is mid end
H is budget
for gen12 H610 was budget chipset while B660 is mid end. Z690 is high end
for gen 13 H770 is budget chipset ( no ddr5 mainboard) B760 is mid end . Z790 is high end
@@pessi919 yes bro you're correct
Just go for 13500....
Wait wait wait at 4:40, can’t you just update it yourself?? Build it and update it through the USB bios flash? Or get a compatible cpu from a computer store or a friend to update it through bios. I don’t think you need to “ship it back” no?
Well first of all you can't flash a BIOS on a chip you cant run and 2nd how many people have friends with compatible boards lying around. He isn't making assumptions you are.
It's great to hear from someone who isn't all, "Spend! Spend! Spend!"
or isn't pressuring people into overclocking.
Asus TUF Gaming B760M-PLUS D4 or Gigabyte B760M Gaming X DDR4 (rev. 1.0)?
Tuf one is more stable. best for 13600k if you are not after Overclocking. XMP & PL2 power modification could work perfectly for max performance.
B760 boards would be interesting if the chipset and specific BIOS allowed for CPU undervolting. There is no clear info on that anywhere - neither from INTEL, nor from the board manufacturers :( If you put there I5 13600K or better CPU, ability to lower core voltages is a must. That's why people are paying more for Z790, or even older Z690 models - because no one sent a clear message, whether undervolting (not "power limiting") is possible on B760 or not :-/
I am using Gigabyte B760 DS3H 5333MHZ OC DDR4 undervolting is pain in the ass. You can apply core offset and voltage but it doesn't accept it all voltages remains same only way to undervolt is playing with AC/DC Loadlines which is again pain in the ass. One of the biggest downsides is specific board that I mentioned bottlenecks i7 13700K, VRAMS is not good enough to support 13700K which is a shame. I am trying to get a refund / or replacement with Asus Prime Z790.
This is the reason why I choose to upgrade to a 5800X3D instead of going for a 13600K with a new motherboard and DDR5 RAM. The motherboards are too expensive and overall I get basicly the same performance in 4K gaming without wasting any money. Hopefull things will look different in 2 - 4 years when I look for an upgrade again. The B-series must allow for undervolting (inlcuded in OC Intel claims) since that's the only price range that makes sense.
@@laggmonstret I don't know if its bugged or not but in the bios of gigabyte board there is an option for disabling undervolt protection. Which I disabled it and set cpu vcore to adaptive tried to set an negative offset value of 0.050V which didn't apply. In the intel xtu it shows that there is a undervolt protection.
Secondly, b760M struggles and under delivers for i7-13700k I can only get around 24k on cinebench r23 there is no thermal throttling but after a time on 100% load cpu clock drops from 5ghz to 4.3ghz which I assume it is related to VRMS on motherboard.
Since I didn't had a desktop setup before ( was using a laptop) didn't had a chance to upgrade a system :)
@@GB-fp5fc so we must buy z board or just wait for new bios update ? I just want uv my cpu
@@manssupar You can try to undervolt by messing with AC/DC Loadline settings this will undervolt the cpu only on load. You can check other resources for AC/DC Loadline undervolting if you don't want to that and want to just go with VCore offset value you may need to wait for bios update but it's not certain that manufacturer will provide that update.
I will never cheap out on a motherboard VRMs again...did not know about vrms so i bought a cheap one that had 6-phase and it run rot like hell at 105C, Get at least 12 phase with big beefy heatsinks...its 2023 after all and intel 13th gen is super demanding in this part.
Most modern motherboards do keep that in mind. Almost all of them have decent heatsinks these days. To me chipset matters more than any other fancy stuff they put in it. Meaning that I'd rather get a lower end Z790 than a fancy gaming B660 with RGB.
So a Asus B760 Tuf mobo with a i7 13700k and 4070 GPU, does this work okay as a bundle?
I want to know this also up for this.
@@hectichazerdus
When building my systems I usually consider the costs vs the lifetime of the system. Usually getting better components means the system lifetime is extended and the total cost is about the same or lower. I also OC my CPU's toward the end to gain a year or two more before needing to upgrade. It might be better to wait for a sale and buy better components than skimping and regretting it later.
Can I use the ASUS TUF GAMING B760M-PLUS D4 mATX Motherboard with the Intel Core i5 13600k
Yes you'll be fine, but you can't overclock the CPU and you'll need to be careful with your cooling solution, bigger air coolers might not fit because of RAM clearance issues or VRM heat-sinks on some MATX boards and the 13600k runs hot so you might need an AIO
@@anonmcanon5724 Thanks
@@anonmcanon5724 He doesn't "need" an AIO that's marketing bs, it's more preference. There are many good sufficient air coolers. Also, AIOs have more points of failure so that can be a turn-off for some.
@@brando4526 my point was that his board is mATX so bigger air coolers might be a problem depending on the layout and case, and I did say might. There are options sure, but a 13600k runs quite hot so you probably need one of those bigger coolers. I never said he absolutely had to I said he might have to.
It’s a shame many high end chipset users of AMD and Intel, with current mobo prices, are being relegated to the ‘budget’ chipsets from their respective manufacturer 😱🥵😡🤬! I do think that we’ll see a small reduction in mobo prices next generation as many consumers aren’t upgrading atm …. Even GPU prices will be in the same boat I feel next generation with many gpus dictating on store shelves 🤣😂😅
At least with b760 you get support 12th 13th and 14th gen cpu's.
The COOLERS Since they are a must and vary from $60-125 to cool a 13700 to keep below 128-140 how much extra life on a cpu and how much to run one for powering the fans watts over a year of running 5hrs x 360???? if we save $100 on a board NEXT NEXT NEXT. even a PS line filter
It depends, as all chips are involved in silicon lottery - including MOSFETs. Some might run just slightly below their failure point for YEARS, while others will fail despite being kept extremely cool. QA processes aren´t 100% fail-proof, it´s the reason products are offered with warranty periods (perfect products wouldn´t need those).
B760 boards have very low end audio chips.
how come a z790 prime is the same price as strix b760 ???????? both are ddr5 , shoud I just go with the Z??
Yes, for sure you should.
So I’m buying a 13700k to pair with my 6950xt what mobo y’all recommend
A 13th gen Intel board. Z790 or B760. Depends really on your budget.
@@daviniarobbins9298 if someone is buying a 13700k and a 6950x, then CLEARLY money is not an issue, and if it is then that person shouldn't be buying video cards or cpu's in that price range to begin with if they cant, afford to buy a decent z790 mobo along with it
it takes 10 Min to update the bios !
what would be good for a 13700k? i need a thunderbolt header
ddr5
what does the thunderbolt thing do ? sorry im a ryzen users. :D
thunderbolt is a high end data transfer port that can be use for many uses in my casa to connect an audio interface like an apollo UAD to prevent latency you can also connect monitors via thunderbolt @@officialyashvirgaming
Nah, I'll pass, MSI B760 Max should have bclk OC.
But they are normally £100 dearer. I would suggest you just get a Z-chip with a good B-board. BCLK is not fun, especially when working with different M.2 and PCIe devices over time. The Mag Max doesn't offer much else except BCLK. I bet you could upgrade to a 13700K with the savings.
can you undervolt on a b760 board?
yes, -125mv in my B760 rog stri x ITX 13900K
You can buy a Z790 board for as little as £199, £249 get you a Asus prime with Wifi 6 and £259 gets you a Gigabyte board with Wifi 6E. The cheap B760 boards around the £160 to £180 look like something from 5 years ago and will be built to meet that price point. They blamed the High prices of Z790 boards on having to have more expensive VRM designs to support the extra cores but not sure I'm buying that as the cheaper boards still support the I9's. I do feel overclocking is a bit dead these days especially at the high end as non k sku's turbo up to nearly the k sky's speed, so really don't see the point in the Z boards especially now the B660/B760 supports memory overclocking, the days are gone for the likes of the 2600k overclocking a 3.4ghz base 3.8ghz turbo all the way up to 4.7ghz 24/7 overclock and feeling you have actually got somewhat free performance. Saying all that id still probably would go with a lower price Z790, purely due resale value, at least the B760 WiFi boards are mostly WiFi 6E which has the all important 6Ghz band! Its all a bit of a mess really as AMD have got Intel not knowing if they are coming or going, I just hope the open non k sku's open for overclocking soon, give people who are prepared to put the effort in a chance to win the silicon lottery.
The cheaper boards may support the i9 now. But in a few years time this is unlikely to be the case. There are some superb B660s like the Aorus Master that have brilliant VRMs, and they will almost certainly be fine with an i9 fairly indefinitely. But I do not think things like the B660/760 Asus Prime stand any hope of lasting with anything above a 13600K. They often cannot be undervolted using Intel software, and it comes down to the quality of the board. Imagine running 64Gb or 128GB or RAM and all PCIe lanes on one of these cheaper boards. They will get as hot as the sun. I agree with you totally.
@@SC-hk6ui so is the b760 worth it with 13600k. Sry for this kind of question but I don't really understand it that much. (that's why I'm here)
ASUS ROG STRIX B760-A GAMING WIFI D4 (DDR4) - Intel B760
Intel core I5 13600k
@@negus5534 The Z boards are only useful when you want to overclock the CPU. Even with a NVIDEA 4080 at 1440p, there have been very few gains in FPS and the overwhelming consensus is that CPU overclocking is not worth the trouble with the new 13th gen processors. You can still BCLK overclock with certain B-boards, and RAM OC is possible with all of them anyway. If I had to choose, I would ignore CPU and BCLK overclocking and stick with a RAM overclock. But in reality, overclocking is dead in the water and you should ignore it and focus instead on the right CPU chip. You are looking for any B-board that has a good VRM and thermal management. Most cheap B-boards will be be fine with anything up to a 13400. Better B-boards will be fine with the 13600K and 13700K, and a few have such good VRMs that they will be fine with the 13900K. How much you pay on the MB tends to dictate how good the VRMs are. The ROG Strix B760 has 12+1 power stages on the VRM, whereas the Gigabyte B660 Aorus Master has 16+2. That is how I know that the Master will happily run a 13900K indefinitely. Whereas for the Strix, I would feel a bit like I got the wrong board if I wanted a 13900K because it would cook. It could be fine, but there is better. For a 13600K you can choose either. All but the cheapest B-boards should be fine (so ignore things like the Asus Prime). What you need to understand is the thermal properties of the VRM and whether this will match your desired CPU. If you get a B660 then you will need bios flashback for the 13th gen, whereas B760s do not require this.
Tomahawk b760 ddr5 + i5 13500 for me.
So how do you update the bios for the 13th gen CPU?
does the b760 need a pios update for 13 gen cpu?
Google said it doesn‘t '-'
@@Adam01w01not required.
If using b660 you need to update the bios. For that you need to put 12th gen processor, update it's bios then put 13th gen.
it only needs an update for 14th gen
I dont think downselling this is a good recommendation because then people will either need to get new boards down the line to experience the fastest speeds or they will need to sell and rebuild. The whole point of spending all the money in the first place is to experience those fast speeds and so that you dont have to go rebuild every 2-4 years. Better things will definitely have come but you wont need to rebuild in order to take advantage of them or integrate them into what you have already paid for and built. Z690 has all of the features of what you have just shown for maybe $50 USD more and is great on all of the points that you made here.
@cjmoss51 but bro ddr5 rams and GPUs and CPU’s run the same on the cheaper Bords. Really no need to overspend
is it good enough for 13600k and rtx 3070?
Everything that have 12+ phases and VRM heatsinks on it is good enough for 13600k, i speak as a former owner of a Strix B660-D4 which was paired with 12700k which i used 1 year without any issues. For a videocard especially around 3070 range is zero difference. But i would prefer to chose DDR5 MoBo even with a cheapest DDR5 4800MHz RAM sticks which costs now like a good DDR4 RAM sticks. DDR5 below 6400MHz is not very expensive yet, but in the future if you decide that you are satisfied with this board you will just need to buy new DDR5 RAM that will be faster and cheaper than now and you get a performance increase of about 10%, the same with the processor - just insert a new one into the board . In the case of DDR4, it may turn out that there will already be a noticeable drop in performance and you will have to change both the motherboard and RAM, again poke around in this pile of wires, configure, and so on.
yes
overclocking off, a big no for me... no wayyyyyy..................
B760 SUPPORTS ONLY 4 DMI LANES WHILE Z790 SUPPORTS FULL 8 LANES OF cpu
you can buy a z790 pro -A for roughly the same price of the B760 TUF so why go B760
where i live, cheapest z790 is 200€ this tuf is 149
Z790 always with an intel K processor! Why not use it to its full potential? Why would you pair a K processor with a b660 or b760 no overclocking , limited connectivity. I’d rather pay another one hundred pounds. If you want a b660 or b760 motherboards get a cheap F version intel processor. They pair much better.
Why? Why? Why? Because sometimes you only have K processor available and it's easier just to accept it.
14th gen are power hungry. don't follow this video for 14th gen check power of cpu and mobo you will know what i am saying. wattage is a problem to look
closed the video at "you can't OC the cpu"
Found the needy attention kid that has to announce to the world everything they're gonna do before they do it lol.
Well you get what you can afford I guess. But a non overclocking CPU (and appropriate board) isn't going to last you quite as long before it needs to be replaced to run modern games. And it won't game quite as well in the meantime. But you gotta do what you gotta do. To me, these kinds of boards were always the thing to get, when you're building a non-gaming computer. It's what I bought for my garage PC, which I use for youtube videos when working on cars.
I definitely see the value in B760 boards, but the reason that people buy Z boards is for overclocking.
Add to that the improved I/O you mentioned in this video, it's clear that there are a lot of benefits to getting a Z790 for many users.
You brought up some great points for the B760, and it definitely is the better choice for locked CPUs and people who don't have the cash for higher end parts, but I wouldn't outright say "don't buy a Z790".
its all for clickbaits.. and its fkn 2023 yet people like him still do it..
The Z790 is the only chipset you should use for a K-series, since Intel believes undervolting is overclocking. If you can't undervolt like a 13700K it's going to be ridicilous hot for no reason. I am very dissapointed in Intel. But by all means go for a 13600 but pair it with a B660 instead since it makes no sense going for anything higher this gen. I personally choosed to upgrade my AM4 to a 5800X3D instead and with the latest BIOS for my B550-f I could undervolt it and set a -30 negative curve on all cores in PBO2 so now i'm good for another 2-4 years I guess.
one thing to note is that you cant even UNDERvolt on a B660 or B760. Meaning your motherboard will feed your CPU alot more voltage than it needs.
Very Confusing Suggestions As K CPUs Will Always Benefit From Z690 and Z790 Motherboards. B760 Can Never Replace Z Series of Chipsets. Never!!
@Blue You Don't Have Any Idea About How K CPU Works With Z Series Borads. All Intel K Processors Consist Turbo Boost Which Automatically Overclocks When Needed With Z Series Boards and This is A Minimum 6 Years Old Tech.
I don’t understand why you would spend so much money on a gpu and cpu lets say a rtx 4090 and still be on z690 ddr4 😆 I don’t understand how everyone here is fine with that, if you’re really really tight on money, then go one notch down on gpu and rather make your system quality overall
Why buy a dead platform is the better question and if you buy an old platform why do you not buy a B660 board with BIOS flashback.
@Blue It IS dead, because you can''t upgrade the CPU anymore. To buy a board for one generation does not make much sense. except you plan to keep your system for 3 years. When you plan to do so, then you could also buy AM4 which is much cheaper.
@@eliotrulez You are one of these people I dont understand. Who WOULND´T keep their new system for 3 years? Also it is not dead if its the newest thing available.
@@ScarrowLP A lot of people do like to upgrade. If I can upgrade my CPU because I do other stuff then gaming, this is an advantage. Swap the CPU and off you go. If you are only gaming, it does not matter what you buy, but both Intel and AMD DDR5 stuff is expensive (except Microcenter in the US will give you 32GB of free DDR5-6000 RAM). The more casual your gaming is, the more it makes sense to buy an 5800X3D or 5700X or even a 5600 (which costs peanuts comparatively, especially in Europe) and be happy with half (or in the case of the 5600 quarter) the cost of the CPU and mainboard and RAM.
@@eliotrulez or just wait for AMD's R7 7800X3D that is coming out next Month April. I'm Still using a Z97 gaming 5 MSI mobo in 2023 paired with an i7 4790k + RTX 3060. Plenty of Bottleneck but I can live with it as i game at 1440p. lol. I've gotten 9 close to 10 years of usage now.
@@BravoSixGoingDark yes, if u buy new that's an option. If you go for old and cheap an AM4 + 5800X3D would be best.
Ok, just bought a z790 apex
yeah we dont care we have tons money to spent
Compared Z790 and B760 but with DDR5. B760 has slightly higher max ram speed (note - max speed, not average speed) and better outer interfaces (usb and etc). In the same time B760 is much more expensive and has worse inner interface (pcie, sata and etc).
So B760 just sucks
But dude all B series cannot OVERCLOCK all Z series can
Never buy B series mobo if you own an i9 13900K series. Shit cant give enough power for those CPU gen.
Say if I didn't mind the weaker performance. Would it be damaging to the components to get a B760 series motherboard for a i9-13900k?
Now i should add that I'm not going to be overclocking the i9-13900k.
Another thing I should add is that the motherboard I'm getting (the Gigabyte B760 GAMING X AX DDR4) supports the i9-13900k.
@@linkeron1 As for me, I won't be wasting my money grabbing high end CPU and not even utilize it.
@@zegfrid1907 so the i9-13900 would be better?
@Blue i already bought it all and built it all up last week. It’s working fine.
Is it good for 13600k
No. Never buy B series mobo for 13th gen CPUs. That is my current mistake. I get shit CPU performance with my i9 13900KF cuz my mobo is b760
@@zegfrid1907 so which one is good z690 or z790
@@ishubber5392 Either.. Z690 has more optimized bios updates. If you know how/doesn't mind to flash bios then u can go with z790
@Blue Thats what I am talking about, why buy a 13900KF when u cannot even OC it or cannot even utilize its maximum power. When I changed from B760 to z790 without overclocking my CPU, my Cinebench score improved approx. +65%. And I even under volt my CPU with my z790 mobo.
The board I had was B760-G Strix
@Blue nope.. Was even reaching 95deg celcious cuz voltage was high.
you can try it yourself.
well if you dont want wasting money and looking for budget and high level mobo i offer asus rog strix b760-f gaming wifi
how is a £280 motherboard budget?
@@Valehass
compared to high range mobo ( rog z gaming ) yes its budget
you just cant overlock
That's BULLSHIT! Why buy an b660/b760 mobo? The MSi z690-p is super cheap! You have good VRM and a HELL! Off CPU control in Bios ! Im running an 14600k using lite load 4, loadline 7 , -40MV cpu ,and I can run dynamic overclock 5.8 ghz Pcore ,4.4ghz E-core 4800 ring,169w max power whit Cinebench 82C max temp Air cooler , cpu-z 927 single and 10800 multi.
Don't ever buy a B series motherboard from Intel . You lose out on a lot when you , most importantly overclocking . If you can't afford a Z series motherboard then go with an AMD B series motherbboard like B550 or B650 both can be overclocked and are less expensive than the Z690 & Z790 motherboards . Never pair a B760 with an unlocked intel CPU . Lol
Never pair a B760 with an unlocked intel CPU? Why not? Is the world going to come to an end if you do? I just got a b760 mobo and 14700k I don't plan to overclock and that was the only 14700 cpu available. Some people prefer Intel and some AMD. Embrace the beauty of choice.
Is there no sun where u live?
nope
@@MrVidification
Do you have an issue with white anglo saxon people?
B boards are not specific for gaming rather buy a H board B boards are low quality on some points also the VRM are bs on most B boards rather spend more money on a H or a Z at least i know i have better preformence for a 13th/12th CPU and like a 4070 or a 3070 ti. for me a motherboard is very importante is the brain of the pc, using cheap motherborads on good cpu and gpu its a no good
you misunderstanding. Z is high end
B is mid end
H is budget
for gen12 H610 was budget chipset while B660 is mid end. Z690 is high end
for gen 13 H770 is budget chipset ( no ddr5 mainboard) B760 is mid end . Z790 is high end
Click Bait. Thumbs down.
Either you don't know the meaning of the term clickbait or your trolling.
ew
Hey, I'm building a 4090, 13900k 1550w psu system.
Is it compatible with components? and why is it muc cheaper they're exactly same 7800mhz or anything else I didn't get it.
Why the f do you have a 1550w PSU? U running your EV with that thing?
How much money you got, lol? It is as simple as that, you buy what you can afford and right now I wouldn't buy a 4090. A 3060ti would do just as well and cost less than a fourth of the GPU you are intending to buy.
Why you want a 13900K? Are you planning to do video editing, photo manplication stuff and the like? If you are just going to be gaming and CZcams surfing you would be better off with either an i5 13600k or a i7 13700k and save yourself £300. An i7 13700k will do video editing stuff just fine.
@@daviniarobbins9298 Hey Robbins, thx for ur opinion. IDK have u heard about it but there was a huge eartquake happened in my city. because of the disaster, PC Setup building is my last priority rn. My University exam is on June. I was going to Build the PC for the gaming when I passed the exam. Greetings from Turkey.
1500w damn dude what are trying to accomplish , powering an AIRPLANE
@@daviniarobbins9298 do everything , yeah gaming , editing, porn, streaming, watching videos, browsing facebook ,
everything ... and everything... whhen someone have the money we just dont limit , sky is the limit and we can afford it i9 13900K or KS
i heard there is i9 14th gen also coming in JAN 2024
Buy z790 ddr5, always aim for the latest and greatest you can afford when it comes to PC building.
I already have good DDR4 ram, whats the point to spend 200 Euros on new DDR5 RAM when its only 1% faster in Gaming ?
@@n8wolf575 I think it will get better in future so you can upgrade without having to buy new motherboard I guess.
@@negus5534 could take years. i went for ddr4 motherboard again, no point right now in buying ddr5 imo.
@@n8wolf575 ye it's only worth if you got that extra money. It will be like in year or 2 but it's overkill right now (ddr5 5200/5600 as example)
@@negus5534 Spend 2000 today, i saved the 200 for the RAM and use my existing DDR4. wont make a difference in gaming and with Intel in the next years
"You can't overclock the CPU"...Yeah nah see ya...
Cpu's come stock at 5ghz and higher nowdays with crazy good ipc, overclocking is steadily becoming a thing of the past and mainly for hobbyists. Literally any game or software out can run just fine on just the basic boost clock speeds without ever needing to touch the overclocking
B760 is so ugly
just buy Playstation 5 if you only game
Just watch Twitch if you... if you... you do you, IDK.
@@Hk7762Tube
No, console pleb.
I’m not sure you really understand, just how many people there are out here that actually enjoy overclocking their PCs.. Your channel seems to be directly pushing a Non Overclocking narrative, and I can guarantee that your channel is going to have a hard time growing because of that. I just unsubscribed..
I just had to set up 55 PCs for a gaming convention in Odense (Denmark), mostly 10th gen Intel with 1060s in them. E-sports titles were of course the main course, we did have a questionnaire most youngsters filled out, it surprised me how little people know about PCs, the vast majority seem to just buy finished products with no clue as to what hardware they actually are purchasing. That´s why you see so many shitty and expensive builds out there, people havn´t got a clue.
You are very right though, those who do care and build their own rigs are very likely to be interested in OC´ing unless we are talking first timers but they get their information from the web where overclocking is a thing. I don´t overclock anymore for various reasons but I still like to purchase hardware with "possibilities" just in case real life gives me a break. Most hardware enthusiasts want options.
@@blue-lu3iz Your so called statistics are baseless and completely made up, most people who buy K intel cpus overclock them.. Just shut up
@Blue We had a convention here in Odense (Denmark), a survey was done among about 400 gamers and none of them were on 4k, yet CZcamsrs are busy giving us 4k results. I swear they are getting paid to push stuff down our throats.
lol i laugh “plus the ssd pcie5 won’t be useful to have in 3-5 years.. 11 months later theres muktiple pcie gen 5 ssds LOL