What sort of women does NASA or SpaceX REALLY need on the Moon? What about flight attendants??
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- čas přidán 30. 04. 2024
- What sort of women does NASA need on the Moon? As the human population increases in space, the answer to that question may evolve. What about flight attendants?
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Silver jumpsuits, go-go boots, and purple wigs.................and the women can wear whatever they decide to bring.
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You sir, made my day!
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I too, Monkeyboy, remember "UFO", the 1970 British SciFi TV series by Gerry Anderson ("Thunderbirds"), and I wholeheartedly agree with you!
Watched an episode last night; the English female-astronauts running MoonBase had uniforms that left the male viewers breathing vacuum!
There are, in fact, many persons of many crafts that will be needed on the moon. Engineers, hospitality, machinists, fabricators, seamstresses, metalurgists, geologists, biologists, heavy equipment operators, etc. Not all of them need to be pilots or military trained personnel. All they need to be are teammembers and coworkers and able to fulfill their duties.
My wife is a dog groomer.
I'm a generalist, with several specialties.
We are simpatico about going to Mars. She wants to be the first Mars dog groomer.
We aren't just a good couple, we are excellent partners. When we both put our minds to something it always gets done.
Considering how much of a premium each seat on a spacecraft is, likely each person won't be that specialised. You can group "engineers, machinists, fabricators, seamstresses" into one bundle (a maker/maintainer kind of person) and "metallurgists, geologists, biologists" into another (a scientist/researcher) and so on. An astronaut isn't just a pilot for the spacecraft, the Apollo missions they had to be trained in geology as well to identify what to bring back as samples for example.
@Vaeldarg but in order to effectively colonize the moon and Mars, specialists in specific fields of study will be mandatory and no longer will people of multiple disciplines be effective at their tasks. Premium seats on starships won't be an issue because the spacefaring colonizers will not be charged for their seat; they will be in demand.
@@Tinman_56 Yeah but that's way further off than setting up the first few crewed habitats. The place still has to be set up before can expand and reduce the need to generalise.
@@Vaeldarg it will be relatively quick once the first 2 or 3 ships and with provisions and hardware.
Imho, NASA fvcked up BAD. "We do not judge applications based on race, sex, or religion."
Since ~when~... How many females rode the Shuttle compared to men?
The NASA Artemis Twitter bio is literally "With Artemis, NASA will land the first woman and first person of color on the Moon. Take the next giant leap with us."
If that's your focus, god help all of them.
That's bot the focus, that's the PR people on social media. Quit pretending that just because they're celebrating diversity, they can't also build a successful moon program at the same time.
Walk and chew gum or get tf out.
So there's going to be a twofer? A black woman?
And the Apollo program was all about putting a man on the moon, try to keep up.
I worked with someone who was a born engineer. She had the engineering " knack ". She could code and was a space geek too.... she also was able to make cold, logical decisions relating to the task at hand. .... a seriously cool person that happened to confuse the neurotypicals in the workplace.
Some people just have a certain 'knack' for their job, and when you meet them you understand that it is not about their gender or social station, it is about how their brain is wired to be excellent at what they do. They are the kinds of people that you want to be shoulder to shoulder with when the world ends as they are just more resourceful than your average person....
Old. Now sounds like the person who's qualified.
How about we just see who the most qualified candidates are for the positions we need filled, regardless of their sex?
Good point, but who decides who that is? Under what criteria? What happens when two or three tie in capabilities for only one spot?
Because criteria can be designed to be exclusive. You fail to account for the long history of exclusionary tactics that have suppressed smart, capable, and talented people from pursing goals and achieving goals.
This includes nationalities and religious affiliations as well as race or gender.
Think of it like a club. The people in the club control who can join the club. The new members are people approved of by the old members, ensuring the criteria is never changed.
This benefits a few people, but in reality, the club cannot see that it is stagnating.
The benefit of working with someone who less strong is innovating ways to accomplish work with better tools. If you demand that everyone has to be able to carry a one hundred pound tool, you never develop a need to innovate. Innovation as a characteristic goes unappreciated and unrewarded. It’s frowned upon, even, because it insults traditional ways.
This is why diversity matters…it isn’t about coddling, it introduces change: it shakes things up. We need shaking. We settle into our comfortable layers far too easily.
I wonder how long earthlings are going to hold on to the idea that being space fairing should be exclusive.
@@jtjames79 I find that a very good question. I would say as long as it costs a lot money. Such is the human condition.
@@tim1883 Money is a type of democracy. Also those of us who plan to be early adopters, we know we are paying the early adopter tax.
That's for all the poor people who can't afford it yet.
Capitalism actually has a plan.
Most things in life these days is NOT judge on ability any more, but your about your diversity
The reason for low representation of people of color and women can be seen in the classroom. You don't find many of either class in the science classrooms.
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Space X, is going to make becoming a female astronaut much easier. You won't need to follow a specific career path to qualify to be one of the select few astronaut missions per year.
With hundreds of planned flights and number of specialists needed per flight to set up exploratory bases, and eventually fully self-sufficient colonies. Anyone willing to study and become known for excellence in his or her field can be chosen.
It will eventually becomes a personal decision to dedicate 5 plus years to a single mission's goal, leaving everything and everyone behind.
Sounds like some legendary flight attendants.
There were actually serveral reasons for exclusively selecting men into NASA. First of all, back in the day, most if not all astronauts were selected from servicemembers, secondly you needed a strong background in engineering and/or science. Both qualifications will automatically lead to men, especially considering the era.
The first female astronaut was Sally Ride and if you read her bio she had a VERY strong background in science. She was above everything else, a very very established woman. And a rare breed too. Now that STEM studies include more and more woman, it's only logical for more women to be selected as astronauts. But forced equality will lead to lowering of standards and eventually lower quality, it's just math. Hiring based on merit, not PC.
Skills are irrelevant in the modern Disney era, but they do need to be diverse and inclusive. That's the main thing...
Merit should be the only consideration
After seeing how flight attendants can't troubleshoot problems with the entertainment system, I would not be hopeful of their ability to deal with the failure of complex technologies.
Faithful watcher here! Always been into the Space exploration since my early years, as well, watching Apollo 11 with my dad when I was 7! And still wishing to go to space someday! My dream fuels my life! No matter if I do or not! Cheers from Belgium!
Thank you. It's about time these ladies got the recognition they deserve. It was heartrending to hear about some of these heroic attendants who sacrificed themselves for their passengers and crewmembers. You make an excellent point in that being a highly-qualified pool of active, performant, intelligent professionals.
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Rough. Imagine when the Nasa-MeToo finally happens?! Yuck, the more exclusivity the more twisted.
No! Wrong skill pool. Wait until you've dated a flight attendant. Trust me, I know. Most of the attendants I knew were only there for the free flights. Just my experience. 😜
Awesome to hear youre getting out there again! Its hard but if your heart tells you something you gotta listen. Good luck, have fun, stay safe.
Those glasses don't look angry enough!!
Very hipster though lol
He looks like a strange, over-the-hill unemployed poet.
Women clearly outnumber men in the social services field (Medical Fields, Hospitality, Farming/Ranching, Marine Biology, etc).
NASA should begin seriously considering women with years of Nursing experience.
When Space begins to have more tourists, NASA should begin considering individuals from the Hospitality industries.
Unfortunately, most modern women today are more entitled than adventurous. They area all about their comforts. The space industry is definitely not into personal comforts at this stage.
Maybe in a few more decades that will become a consideration.
But if NASA, and other major space organizations want to more women in the space industry, they will definitely need to broaden their background selection criteria.
That's actually a really good point. You want someone who's used to working in fast paced, high stakes environment while putting up with some very unpleasant situations. A nurse with years of experience has you covered there.
Medical field, check
Hospitality, maybe some day
Farming ranching, check
Marine biology, what? Not seeing that for some time.
you might want to double-check the ranching and farming one...............
More women are farmers and ranchers than men? Are you serious? Sorry, I'm not going to listen to the opinion of someone this disconnected from reality.
It should be the best person for the job. However, bear in mind that historically, women until the 90s were barred from flying in the UK air force, for example... Women like me who would have wanted to and would have been capable, but denied opportunities. I'm only in my early 40s, this wasn't long ago...
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Really enjoyed this video and good luck with your search.
Thank you Jordan for this important video
Grabbing at straws?
Jordan pedestalizes women and he's been making too many fights lately.
Now he can tell them to watch the video he made about them... As he's so bored and talks to the ramdom stuardess who find appeal in travel for many selfish reasons.
What an emotional romanticism to try to use outlier situations to paint the majority of w.
He'd get them killed and their crew so he could say he's a youtuber
remember the flight crew in the film 2001
We need a bunch of Ellen Ripley clones😆
the qualified ones! hope to see a bunch up there..
They're all qualified, they're f**king astronauts
@@AntiContradiction that's kinda my point :P
originally i was going to comment "all of them" , but then i realized Karen probably shouldn't go
Lol tongue-in-cheek. Good vid, my Angry Space-dude!
NASA did deliberately chose NOT to include women in any of their Astronaut intake. This is not because they didn't want women in the program but because they were concerned with how the American public might react to a female fatality as apposed to a male one.
That was part of it, true. Three astronauts died in the mid 60's when there was a fire in one of the Apollo capsules as they were testing it on the ground.
That’s only partially true. Men are also flat out better for the job than women and vastly more apply for the job than women. Thus, if a woman is in a spacecraft, it’s likely that men were discriminated against.
@@jamescarter8311 What proof do you have of that?
It was all budget, women required new suits, not the one-size fits all tall men of the Apollo Era, that's why women and men of various heights flew with the shuttle and today, there are now spacesuits of multiple sizes.
Yep - truth of the matter is on studies (not surprisingly if one thinks about it), mixed crews of women and men perform best - surely has nothing to do with millions of years of evolution for small group support in tribes I'm sure, but as you said, the public expected then and now, men to take the brunt. They are seen as expendable for a cause, women less so. ERA for instance failed to fully be passed because women frankly didn't want to bear going to war in a draft and the public at large didn't like the idea. This crazy phase of just trying to say everything is equal on everything and everyone should regard it constantly as such is outright denial of reality.
What a great episode!!!😮
I'd love to hear a collaborative episode about this with Ellie in Space.
Cheers from Alaska
Excellent points
Great episode
Well, I don't know what to think about this video. Anything to do with EDI just gets awkward one way or the other. I think the biggest beneficial influence is on early education of children. They will eventually be the ones building and working at organizations. I AM 60 and I have seen all manner of EDI over the years. Honestly its the managers who see the trainimg films and don't recognize themselves in the 'what not to do' clips.
Great program, Angry.
We all know what ladies we need up there to keep the peace lol 😅😂
LMAO... Start with nymphomaniacs and go from there.
Excellent point!
Astronauts are the best of the best, and Americans who are the best in their field of work are what NASA should be looking for. Does NASA have recruiters who search for the few or does NASA wait for them to apply to become astronauts? If we are going to have Space Colonies, we need more women in space...
I think naval officers and senior enlisted personnel who have served on ships and especially submarines would make great astronauts too. Spaceships heading off to distance destinations will function more like military ships then aircraft.
I'd say nurses (particularly emergency), paramedics, firefighters and other emergency services could be good candidates for astronaut training.
Super great topic. We need more videos like this one. More videos more views more viewers
Well said
Makes sense when do we start the process
Wow part of the other 6% didn't realize that but it's chill just gald to be a space nerd. And topics like people off world fascinate me all the time.
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Honestly, yeah, these sound like great things for the portion of the teams that have to be Jacks if all trades, masters of None, but can pinch hit wherever they are needed.
Regardless of gender, I agree flight attendants would make great candidates for the future of space travel / habitation. Their leadership skills and composure would be a huge advantage alongside their fellow engineers and scientists in future habitats and stations.
Hey those space suit iv seen it before
an autopilot will take a plane to 30ft above a runway, then all thats needed is to lower the wheels, put on full flaps, reverse airflow through emgines.
I like your videos, AA, but man i don't care for most of the commenters here.
I find the whole question specious quite frankly.
We need to rethink the criteria for both male/female astronauts given increasing automation of all aspects of space flight aka pilot skills should not be on the list.
I agree a lot with your points. I´ve come to similar conclusions a couple of years ago..
There´s also another occupation that should be looked at: nurses (regardless of gender of course)
I don´t know if the group still exists but there was one for space nurses about ten-fifteen years ago.
Your headline, "what sort of women" do you need may not land in a positive light with women. Thanks Great show.
too bad
@@user-mb9zx9lg7p Explain yourself. Are you afraid to speak about your obvious disrespect for women?
interesting take
Soviet Union did a stunt. Valentina Tereshkova was unqualified af.
Altough her qualifications amounted to being a skydiver, she had one defining quality: balls. As much as Gagarin did. Most of Vostok flights could be portrayed as "stunts". Voskhod was also quite iffy in the begininng.
@@pauloalvesdesouza7911 some suggest her balls were the reason she never flew again. Also inflight comms and her complete incompetence. Anyway, the whole reason this happened was cold war publicity competition. One could argue Soviets risked more, but I don't think there's a clear winner for crazy. People died on both sides. It wasn't about playing safest. You can kill a man for country. Trashing one of a few critical assets though - rockets or pilot means falling back on schedule. Which no one could afford. So it was reasonably safe.
Also you do realize a lot more americans have died related to space flights than russians? But somehow russians are crazy and americans safe, right?
A lot of what you think is also propaganda. Everything around us is part bs all the time. Sometimes a lot of it. Russian publicity is we are wild, brave and vodka, American one is we have civilized safety measures and care about lives. But in the end it's quite similar. All great men and women who were aware, fought till the end and did their best or 99%.
@@vensroofcat6415 I couldn't have said it better.
@@vensroofcat6415 How do the numbers compare if you exclude the two space shuttle disasters?
Valentina Terashkova was a test-pilot, flying jet aircraft. She was no 'drooping lily'; recall the famous Russian female fighter pilots of World War Two?
Never underestimate women, especially Russian women; a hard, demanding enviroment produces the toughest women in the World.👩🚀🇷🇺🛩🚀🌚
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Diversity is needed, and everyone has their own strengths and short comings.
But it's like contact job bidding, why choose the lower quality for cost savings. So why recruit based on gender over qualifications or abilities? Look at NBA/NFL/NHL it could be argued more diversity is required based on race, sex, sexual identity, etc., although instead these contracts are chosen by abilities, qualifications, experience, etc...
Hiring by merits and qualifications, instead of skin color, gender or any of that "DEI" manure, is DEFINITELY the smart thing to do.
So..we plan on bringing the civilatory leaches to outerspace?
AA, I'm glad you said it first, "kill two birds with one stone" (2:15), for pointing out the one possibility that NASA could use to tackle that politically awkward race/ gender question of lunar representation.
With a landing crew consisting of a mere two American astronauts, such an 'arrangment' MIGHT satisfy MOST quarters...maybe.
I wouldn't venture so far, AA, as to suggest who should be Captain, that's walking on thin ice.
I watch SciFi for watching women in space... Bobby Drapper... Sabine Wren... :D
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Oh, I am sure that will achieve fantastic things for humanity.
But yeah, that door will stay shut...
Obviously the type who do every thing so that can lose tools in orbit. Cause reasons!!
most CZcams channels about space topics share the same issue of having only 0 - 5 % female viewers
well nice thinking but on the other hand you need people with a profession that is needed on board like flying is one thing but the other thing is like astrophysics geology the kind of research that needs to be done on the moon technicians engineers electrical engineering mechanical engineering pharmaceutical professionalsand I’m sure there’s a lot of fit and very educated and highly skilled women in these fields too the pharmaceutical area probably more than men.
Nothing below a 9. And smart.
So you don't actually do any sort of personal networking with the Women at these space industry events? Who knew. That is dedication and journalistic integrity.
Not sure I could do it.
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what I would be interested: in
how many applicants for becoming an astronaut at NASa and ESA are female? and how do female applicants perform the tests compared to their male collegues?
In the 60ies women and people of colour did not have equal chances to apply at the space agencies, since they where less likely to get paid a high education.
But now this has changed a lot.
Generally I would say only qualification should count, independent from gender and race.
But for long term space missions qualification is not everything. Also the group needs to be balanced. We know that social groups that only consist of one gender, are not emotionally healthy, as you can see in prisons, monasteries, boys or girls boarding schools, the army, crews on ships in the 17th century, etc.. So alone for this reason we might need 50% men and women. When it comes to colonise Mars a majority of women or bring a variety of frozen sperm might make sense, since only woman can give birth. For the reproduction frozen sperm is sufficient, so you do need to fill the payload capacity with men, who need food and oxygen
Talk about cop-outs - I copped out at 2:23
I'm tired of first this and first that.
I didn't like reliving those horrible events but I know it was necessary for the story you wanted to tell. I can't imagine having the couraget those flight attendants displayed. This piece was kind of off-beat. A real change-up that caught me off balance. I don't know who the MOST qualified astronauts are but I do know it's wrong to limit the pool before you know who they are.
Two wrongs do not etc. etc. etc.
There are far more flight attendants than astronauts.
Stay single bud! That’s good advice.
nice looking agreeable females might help the males do their job better is about all i see in this
Sandwich makers?
Great to hear about heroic flight attendants! Thanks, AA! Just because NASA has decided to ensure a woman is sent to the Moon doesn't mean they won't be highly qualified. It seems by the comments here that most of your subscribers have no idea how much flack NASA has taken for sending only men to the Moon.
I don't even................
And it doesn’t hurt anything if they’re hot
Great video - 100% agree Flight Attendants would be a great place to start - so many BRAVE Examples of Strong minded women! Would be good potential astronauts or a Girlfriend!😎
I don't care what moon they go to. More power to 'em! But why would you want to "wife up" somebody that you know is going to be gone most of the time? What would be the point of that?
If I was a female the model husband wouldn't be a trucker a pilot or an astronaut. A farmer isn't a bad choice though. Anyone you could actually have a life with instead of somebody who's always gone.
I say this because I've been a trucker. A lot of truckers wives leave them because they're just gone too much.
nasa is woke, so expect all women crews to the moon.
Expect disasters. These people are being picked SOLELY because of their skin color or sex.
😂😂 using the word "woke" unironically disqualifies your opinion. And remind me again why people like you fret at the idea of an all female crew but don't bat an eye at an all male crew?
Why not just admit to being exist? It's easier than pretending to have any intellectual reasoning behind a disdain for women
They'll need to finally sit down and define what a woman is.
We do need to confirm the conditions will work for both genders, just from a practical point of veiw it is a two birds with one stone situation if we can both send the first woman to the moon and confirm all hardware and conditions are practical for all future astronaut's
Not to mention,
12 people have been to the moon and about 10% of america is of African decent so, statistically speaking we should have already seen the first African American on the moon.
in 1969 it most definitely was the case
once again you forget the commercial diver 😢
Why the creepy sunglasses?
Bedspread?
I see a lot of men critiquing your idea. But in order for a space colony to thrive we cant have only military or scientists, we also need families... Also there are many women equaly or more suited for any jobs than most men so why not include them?
At one time, I would have agreed with you on the flight attendants. However, I could point some pretty crazy stuff with them too. Including a story not too long ago of one who was drugged and raped by her "fellow" workers.... the story probably wouldn't have been very big had she not died because of side effects to the drug she was slipped and her work mates not getting her to medical attention in a timely manner. In other words, these kinds of things were not uncommon in the first place. There are I am sure, still some very good flight attendants. Some screening required.
That said, it used to be that all stewardess had to have a medical background normally an RN.... hmm, maybe look in the medical field. Oh, of course there is already a shortage, at least where I live, of all medical professions. So maybe medical professionals are not the right people to poach.
As a last point, I have to agree with you that looking for pilots to become astronauts does limit the recruiting pool. I do think that: A) having at least one pilot makes sense..... it is a "flying" craft that gets them there but they don't _all_ need to be pilots. B) people trained in the purpose of the trip itself would make a lot of sense.... there is generally at least one with medical training. I think things are, or should be, getting beyond the "everyone is a backup to everyone else" mentality. That does limit things more than needed I think. The time for some people just being passengers during the trip so their job can start when they "get there" will give people even better suited (and I do not mean space suited)to the rolls needed in space or on another surface. Male or female or something in between. (eunuchs used to be highly prized for being level headed in days of old)
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Before long term space flights are attempted maybe we need to find out if women can get pregnant and have children in space. If not space travel is pointless
Good Vid! A really serious effort to promote equal numbers of humans in space would include nurses, paramedics, athletic coaches, police officers, scientists and just plain gutsy women (a very large group) who can match a very strictly designed qualification process. My only regret is that as a 77 yo I probably won't get to space and meet any of the wonderful humans making up the half who would be available. And wishing you good luck in your personal quest.
What world do you live in where women are ever held to the same physical, mental, or emotional standards as men, or crap, often any standards at all? It must be a wonderful place, full of psychedelic colors and bongs. The people in power now are strictly about groups, not individuals and they don't care about qualifications, those are just things that empower the White Cishet Patriarchy, don't you know? In this case (identitarian politics) diversity is always forced and usually a bad thing.
men make better everything
satin talking at the end kind of ruined the buzz of the vid. but other than that great vid man!
NASA is going to need both men and women with huge balls.
Well unless they're trans, that's half of the available gene pool excluded!
AA, what did you do? 49, and you got much more grey hair then me with 62. Take off that beard, before thinking about dating.
What you are proposing, might be worth a thought in 50 years. Right now, all astronauts need some science degree, preferably more than two. And extreme health. I can imagine people with certain disabilities having the time of their life on a space station. That is certainly something to concider.
There are more female aplicants than needed, but this is still a white domain. Has there ever been non white astronauts? I can't remember any.
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Jordan it is all marketing! We guys have niche markets where we sell great with women. Find your market niche and go for it! You are a wonderful man and deserve a very nice lady. I want to see you happy!!
God amn it, go online and fine a brilliant lady who is a doctor, lawyer, engineer, etc. You deserve it!
stewardesses are you kidding me stewardesses
I would love NASA to officially answer one simple question: What is a woman?
Don’t women have a physiological advantage as astronauts?