New Strong Evidence for Existence of Planet 9, Here's What We Know
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Hello and welcome! My name is Anton and in this video, we will talk about new statistical evidence for the existence of Planet 9
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0:00 Planet 9 in a nutshell
0:40 History of evidence
1:55 Original proposition
2:55 Unless we find it, it's not real
3:45 Alternative explanations
4:35 Could it be bias?
5:15 Exoplanet resembling planet 9
6:00 Properties
6:20 New evidence of TNOs
7:30 Anomaly?
8:10 Conclusions
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I don’t typically take planet 9 videos on CZcams seriously, but if Anton is covering it, it’s worth a listen. 😊
facts
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Same.
Mainly trustworthy as he will also tell you it's definitely not, if it's definitely not.😂😂
That’s funny because science seems to always be behind “pseudo-science”.
The problem is these modern scientists have become too skeptical. They’ve lost the ability to think “what if we have been wrong all this time?”. They think everything has been found and studied. They are so wrong. And this is just another example of that. Hopefully so,eBay soon they’ll come down of their high horse and realize the universe, reality, we, are a lot stranger than we could begin to imagine.
If a study ever comes out against Planet 9, you should title the video on it "Planet Nein"
I was thinking all time during the video about possible names... all I could think of were deities names, but as it was kinda a different type of planet, I thought it could be cool naming it after an egyptian deity. your idea cracked me up thoug
@@kerolokerokerolo I would sign up to go explore Anubis, for sure.
@@kerolokerokerolochronos because it took forever to find it
@@phoenixjones7191 lol
@@Deletirium I've always loved Ra or Osiris :D
I tune in for Anton because he speaks directly to the point. No CGI or AI coupled with click bait video titles.
Calm down 😂
Instead, you get an 11-minute video(because of the ads) that could have been five minutes long and doesn't deliver. I stopped watching his channel because of his tendency to pad his videos, and here I am again, falling for it.
I love Antwon’s peen
all cgi..what? a bunch of bs like religion
@@anthonymargheret-veg-flatis your hair blue?
Ever since I learned about Quaroar, Sedna, Makemake, Orcus, and Eris, I have been fascinated with minor planets. I love how bizarre and unexpected most of them turn out to be (like having weird shapes, or rings outside its Roche limit, or bizarre moons). How amazing would it be to have the technology to visit these bizarre frozen worlds? Sometimes space is so vast and amazing it gives me chills.
Can you imagine trying to name all of the planets?
@@andrewfarrar741 You mean like, in the solar system? Or the galaxy? Or the Universe? Because even in the solar system you're gonna be a while.
@@ralphralpherson9441 We can also MakeBelieve™️ humanity exists in an infinite expanse of universes, each containing countless atoms, stars, galaxies, and realities. Who knows, maybe our universe, with all its complexities and wonders, is just a tiny atomic particle in the grand tapestry of the Supraverse™️ which contains the Metaverse©️.
@@andrewfarrar741no
@@andrewfarrar741 That would be nuts, however.... I always found the Metaverse/Multiverse theory to be a shitty lame argument. Its just a non-theistic place-holder for God. (An extremely vast powerful thing we cannot observe or detect by any means, that explains a lot of shit we dont understand yet). Hence, lame argument. A "God of the Gaps" argument for atheist cosmologists.
The search for planet nine has been going on for so long, it started out as the search for planet ten!
😂 I’ll be happy so long as the people who deleted the 9th planet aren’t allowed to help name the replacement
@@dearthditch Its gonna be called "Not Pluto"
@@dearthditch I'll be happy if they call it Mondas
They should name it brap hog
@@rogerwilco1777 Well that would be Goofy. I’ll show myself out.
I found your channel about 3 years ago and I try to listen to every video you drop. I am very poor and unable to donate, but when I have money some day I promise to give you a donation to say thanks for doing what you do. Thank you Anton!
Take care, Jordan and enjoy free resources!
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@@barbthegreat586 that is greatly appreciated! I hope you are well and keep supporting Anton!
@@phillm156 thanks for the response, I try everyday to learn something new. Hope all is well with you brother.
Just by turning up and clicking the thanks button you are making a contribution. So don't sweat it. I hope you enjoy the videos as much as I do
My favorite Space Dude!! I grew up in Houston Tx.,during the Apollo era,and was a school kid when we lost the Challenger shuttle. The resurgence of the space industry is much appreciated, n I feel needed.
I love your subtle accent ,and no matter where you got it ,you're as American as apple pie in my heart. You are a great asset to science ,education and one of my favorite obsessions. Im back in school, pursuing a Mechatronix degree...Your take on stuff is passionate, and I think ,very genuinely refreshing. I think n feel that U r one of the beautiful people in my life and you always lift my spirits and give me a fire under my ass to study more diligently. I have a good feeling that you have a similar affect on others as well .plz keep it coming,Ive been following You for a good long while and wont stop watching and learning from you ,so dont stop,you're doing agreat service to me and many,many others. You seem like the kinda guy Id enjoy having a beer or five with,.. maybe one day, ..Ican dream and I know that you're a dreamer too ,.Peace Out,,Howie from Houston. ;)
I love Anton so much. He always makes me feel welcome and he’s always so polite
There’s very few people who’d get a click from me talking about planet 9… but Anton is one of them. 😂
ITS FULL OF LIZZURD PEOPLE!!!, (trust me! I watched ancient aliens!!!)
is planet 9 also flat ?
@@traveler263 Yes, probably flat. Likely has nazi bases all over it too, like everything else in the solar system. 🤣
Guys, it is not a planet!
It is a dwarf (and dead) star, brother to our Sun. Our solar system is a binary star system. By the way Jupiter once could have also become a star but it did not.
Think of it. Oort cloud has plenty of objects. What are the chances of having planets with high inclination?
Imagine discovering a black hole that's close enough to send a probe to.
So much science could be gathered, and we could learn so much about the universe from such an object so close.
We should first send some probes to uranus.
I would sleep better not having a black hole that close!
It's like every physicist wet dream... But I doubt it will be black hole :/
@@Hiznogoodit is still so far away from earth that it wouldn’t matter
Met somebody in a planetarium show who watches your vids. You’re Super informative and interesting. Love the work Anton, thank you!
I planned to write a comment Anton would see, but this channel has grown so much since I last looked. It's been such a long time. You deserve all this success!
If anyone had told me twenty years ago that our understanding of our own solar system was incomplete (as Zecharia Sitchin heads sometimes did), my response would have been, "You're crazy. We've got it pretty well mapped out." I might have been wrong about that.
Yup, it seems it pretty much depends on whether we are lucky to spot it or not, finding planets in our back yard turns out to be more difficult than first thought
I think the lesson here is to be humble. Everyone trashed Sitchins hypotheses outright.
"In 1874, Max Planck's advisor, Philipp von Jolly, a Munich physics professor, told Planck that studying theoretical physics might not be a good idea because there wasn't much left to discover. Planck told the story in a 1924 lecture, saying that von Jolly described physics as a mature science, with only small things left to examine and classify."
😉
The Vatican's infrared telescope is named Lucifer for a reason.
PlanetX manifests through heat(aether) before its dim reddish light is seen.
Mythologically, it has several names, depending on the point of view:
In a way, it is the counterpart of the archangel of the sun (the supresser of the dragon, Michael).
On the other hand, it is the fallen Elohim (6th Sephira), the sun-demon ("Sorat"), the "failed sun", in which sense it is the counterpart of the Creator, or the Destroyer.
Jeremiah 48:8
Jeremiah 48:18
Jeremiah 51:48
Jeremiah 15:8
Exodus 12:23
and many others...
The Vatican's infrared telescope is named Lucifer for a reason.
PlanetX manifests through heat(aether) before its dim reddish light is seen.
Mythologically, it has several names, depending on the point of view:
In a way, it is the counterpart of the archangel of the sun (the supresser of the dragon, Michael).
On the other hand, it is the fallen Elohim (6th Sephira), the sun-demon ("Sorat"), the "failed sun" ("dwarf"), in which sense it is the counterpart of the Creator, or the Destroyer.
Jeremiah 48:8
Jeremiah 48:18
Jeremiah 51:48
Jeremiah 15:8
Exodus 12:23
and many others...
Before Pluto was reclassified as a dwarf planet, in 1966 there was a Doctor Who story called "The Tenth Planet." It starred the first Doctor, William Hartnell (1908 - 1975) and introduced the Cybermen from the planet Mondas.
Saw posts online and been waiting for you to cover this thanks
Good work, Anton! Easy to understand. Thank you
It’s a Death Star hidden by the Imperium ages ago.
A Death Star the size of Neptune ? 🤣
The Imperium? As in the Imperium of Man from Warhammer 40K instead of the Galactic Empire from Star Wars? lol
@@edwardfletcher7790 a deathier star
It’s a Mass Relay
that;s what the moon was and we were the ewoks a long long time ago
Way back in the mid 1990's I had a friend who used to talk about this but the difference was that the planet was orbiting almost 90° to the other planets.
I consumed 6 sausages today.
Yes, I remember that concept too.
@@smurt1403 Probably not the food kind ;)
@@greysunited7317 LMAO
Guys, it is not a planet!
It is a dwarf (and dead) star, brother to our Sun. Our solar system is a binary star system. By the way Jupiter once could have also become a star but it did not.
My knowledge of space has expanded even more. Thank you once again Anton
Thank you for sharing the video that was a very interesting topic. ❤
It will always be planet X to me, You know 10. I with Jerry on this one.
China says it is an 11th planet, Xi
@@leighz1962 awlsome
@@eddiebowens1919 very awlsome
I'll seriously call it Nibiru 😂
Yep
In case nobody has told Anton today, you too are a wonderful person. Ill always choose to listen to him on anything before just about anyone else.
Edit: We need more positive and uplifting people in this world. Be kind, everyone.
Well said. 😊
Agreed!
You are such a gem Anton; never change!
Great video, glad to see you again👍🤗
I’ve heard the certainty this study gives for a gravitational anomaly is 5 sigma. That’s really conclusive, 99.99994% chance (if the data and modelling are correct).
'Sigmas' don't translate into probability like that. I think what you quoted is the probably that we observe something at least as extreme as the data we did observe, in case their null-hypothesis is true. That's not the same as probability of the hypothesis being true.
In this case, modelling error is one of the big things to watch out for.
Statistics like that are only as good as the assumptions you feed them. If there is some kind of systemic or observational bias, or other mistake, you can get absurd statistics results that mean nothing.
Of course, the researchers know this and have probably already asked for help finding such things.
You realist just now? Planet 9 or x, depending on the moment, has been speculated in my 1970s spacebooks. Also, the dumb study released in 2013, like anton said, was already known in that time as wel..
Worth noting it doesn't need to be a planet or a black hole, though. Could just be more mass than previously thought (more asteroids/comets/dust/whatever) in the oort cloud.
@@KaitlynBurnellMath Unfortunately, this is most likely the case... Some mundane space rocks rather than a super cool black hole we can study and play with. However, if there IS a tiny singularity so close to us, it would help explain dark matter, prove primordial black holes, which is pretty much locked in anyway, and provide stimulus for generations of scientists to attempt to harness its properties. But... Life is boring. Most likely just rocks... Le sigh.
It will be so interesting to finally know! One way or another! I'll be patiently waiting! 😊
Not me, I bought my ticket, I'm going out there to check for myself
Spoiler alert. It's the oort cloud. 😅❤ Thank me later
It's the blackhole future humanity will use for interstellar travel.
It's called Pluto. Since what? 1954 or something?
@christinabeanma6618 Right because you know everything. Ok.
Alway love your videos, Anton! You mention that it could be something other than a planet, for example, a primordial black hole, and it made me wonder: are there any possible explanations involving dark matter? Do proponents of the theory of dark matter as actual particles (as opposed to MOND or MOG,) posit that such particles could possibly clump together in such a way as to have a gravitational effect on the solar system, similar to what we are observe?
Guys, it is not a planet!
It is a dwarf (and dead) star, brother to our Sun. Our solar system is a binary star system. By the way Jupiter once could have also become a star but it did not.
I feel like Anton should do more videos on Planet 9, it’s one of the many space things that I absolutely love learning about
Finally, a video about planet 9 on CZcams that isn't complete doodoo!
Anton lists the sources he uses to create his videos. You can read them for yourself and judge ther quality for yourself.
Event horizon has the actual guys writing papers on it. There's probably Something there. But it's a needle in a haystack, looking for a dark object somewhere in space.
Gaston Lagaffe!?
Yeah it's called Pluto.
@@bigguy7353 no, you confusing dwarf planets for planets. Pluto is a wanderer like the rest but just quite, quite small
As unlikely as it is I'm hoping it's a black hole, can you image how exciting it would be to have a black hole so close to us, the experiments would be almost endless and invaluable.
Yes and no. Yes because of exactly what you said and the things we can find out but no because of how terrifyingly destructive they are and what they could pull out from the Ort cloud and send our way
The whole planet should vote on who to throw into the black hole once a year.
@@robbarkhouse351 How would a Neptune sized BH be any different than a Planet 9/X the size of Neptune?
@@leepatterson5710 If something goes inside the black hole couldn't it flare gamma rays that could be bad for us?
@@leepatterson5710 Small correction, that would be a black hole with the mass of Neptune. Its size would be on the ballpark of a basketball which is not that terrifying even though it absolutely can tear anything apart.
A black hole with the _size_ of Neptune would probably be an issue.
Great job Anton
Keep us informed brother
I really enjoy your peaceful presentation. Unlike the high hype world around us, you present information that is well researched and you present it in well thought out and organized order. Thank you.
Guys, it is not a planet!
It is a dwarf (and dead) star, brother to our Sun. Our solar system is a binary star system. By the way Jupiter once could have also become a star but it did not.
@@PASHKULI There are hypotheses that it may be a dwarf star. I always find assertions like this, said with full confidence and no supportive evidence, absolutely hilarious, though.
Black holes in our solar system would be astonishing and scary at the same time
A solar system in our black hole.
If aliens land one day and its being covered by all the networks, I ain't stockpiling toilet paper until Anton confirms it.
Get a Bidet now, just for preparation
@@william14able
Does that mean that if you (?)/ America(?) has _Biden_ ...that you(?)/America(?) is / are already _more than_ three-quarters the way there...?!
If you wait for confirmation, all the TP will be gone. Always keep an extra pack at home...
Stock pile toilet paper but do not forget youre towel.
Make sure to check the expiration dates on toilet paper. Don't want the old stuff.
I remember a kid at school in the 90s talking about plantet x, before Pluto was stripped of its title, antons the only one on CZcams id take seriously talking about this
Appreciate the update. THX!
Would be awesome if it was actually a black hole, we'd finally be able to throw random stuff at a black hole to see what happens
What if it throws "stuff" back at us?😅
@@l10zzardk1ng2Like Species 8472 if the Borg don't leave them alone in peace.
celestial rubbish bin.
If you threw a comet into it, the radiation pulse would sterilize earth...
You do know that would just make it bigger, right?
Who else remembers it being called planet X?
Yeah, because X is 10 and Pluto used to be considered a planet at the time. But yeah, that is a far cooler name. We'll see if it really exists or not. But just imaginate, if it really does exist... it will be pretty interesting to see the reaction of all the people who already believed in its existance. They'll be all like "told ya so".
A lot of people lol
Yep.
When Pluto was considered the 9th planet
Or Vulcan
I hope Planet Nine is real. Something about the Solar System having nine planets just sits right with me, bros.
Heck yeah! :D
Factually incorrect
@@speed999-uj5kr Factually incorrect? As opposed to what? Factually correct? And how can that opinion of mine be incorrect? How can any opinion be incorrect? And, for that matter, how can any opinion be correct? I swear, you people get dumber by the day. lol
I am not sure what I was hoping for more, confirmation that it does or does not exist or continued mystery around it.
I think I like the mystery a little more. just to think that there could likely be another planet close by that we don't know about is really fascinating. Part of me is still hoping to find Niburu or mount Olympus out there still. I am a big Sitchin fan
I have been waiting for you to talk about this, Anton! Thanks!
I'm not the conspiracy type but if Anton talking about it I'm popping some popcorn and tuning in.🌌
yes and it’s not even a conpiracy, so, you can rest easy. It’s a scientific theory that they have proposed and done calculations for, only have not proven it yet. So now they are looking for the proof with all the telescopes and stuff. If it gets proved, great. If not, it is still ok. Because it wasn’t a conspiracy to begin with. But a scientific theory to which scientists are trying to apply the five steps of the scientific method.
Now you have to become the conspiracy type to entertain Anton's new findings lol
Guys, it is not a planet!
It is a dwarf (and dead) star, brother to our Sun. Our solar system is a binary star system. By the way Jupiter once could have also become a star but it did not.
@@PASHKULI True Jupiter needed roughly 4-6 times its current mass to become a star.
I used to do exoplanet research (datanalysis: TTV, RV, etc.). My 2 cents is that I think we are underestimating the oort cloud. There could be more mass, and it could have been distributed very differently a few billion years ago.
The parameters it leaves open are a bit too much to explore and rule out the oort completely, short of a direct observation of a body, of course.
I love the thought of desolate planets/dwarf planets so far away where time just stands still
If not for the extreme conditions such planets endure i think they would be a rather peaceful place to be
It was cooler when it was Planet X. Planet 9 makes me think Bela Lugosi is about to show up.
Planet X sounds like a Public Enemy album.
Planet 9 from Outer Space :P
Bela Lugosi is dead.
@@cybergothstudios94 Bela Lugosi is UNdead :P
We have a 9th planet, it's called Pluto.
There is something about that smile at the end of your videos. Plus, they are always so informative. Thank you, Anton!
Great video, Anton...👍
thanks antov , I enjoy your show .
Our solar system has encountered 'interlopers' though out history. Perhaps passerby stars and planets have had a gravitational effect we have not been around long enough to realize.
Finally, someone is asking the same question that I am--namely, what if "Planet Nine" is no longer orbiting? What if it has gone rogue and is just gallivanting around the cosmos, never to return, like the dad who says he's just going to the corner store for some cigarettes and never comes back?
@@Unknown17lol weird simile
@@Unknown17 Whaddaya mean? He's not coming back??!! 😱😭
"We" (as in astronomers who study this field) did realize that passing stars have a significant effect on outlying orbits.
@@jamesblackwell5141 How can I put this to you gently? His orbit has become a bit eccentric.
Just wanted to thank you for all the awesome info over the years bro
i remember in the 90's when nasa already came out saying it was a black whole inside our system - i just think that in the case of some small blackholes they operate like. pocket universes of their own (bubble within bubble) and a physical planet or solar system is within
Hi Anton, I don't know if anyone else has said this in the comments, but I remember years ago reading something about a possible 'Brown Dwarf' which could be the reason why, after all it would have to be so far out that we wouldn't see it, so maybe a Star that didn't ignite?
great information. I still think some of these TNO's are a product of our sun capturing objects that other solar systems may have ejected (which partially explains their orbits).
but it does make sense for something like planet 9 to exist, even after the hundreds of TNO's we have discovered.
Absolutely. Our own galaxy is oddly shaped due to a previous collision with another cluster about 10 billion years ago. When we collide with Andromeda in 4-5 billion years, it will create more oddities, I'm sure.
Could even be something that was once there and then got ejected and we are just seeing it’s past influences
@@goobot1 Because of that past collision, every 40-60 million years or so, something "bad" happens to most solar systems as a large number are displaced slightly. I'm sure you know about how our sun wobbles up and down as it circles our galaxy. It shouldn't do that. And so we get rogue asteroids, things captured or ejected, and on and on. A lot less stable than we thought it should be. And why always being on one planet kind of IS silly, long-term. But we are talking about tens or hundreds of thousands of years, not decades, so we do have time.
Glad to see you back and feeling better!
He looks drunk though - slured, slow speech, etc. I got used to his word cadence and speech over the years, it's easy to notice :(
@@dexio85
I disagree.
I quite remember the vídeo you made when Sedna was discovered back than
Hello Anton Not so wonderful things are happening, 😢 but I appreciate your videos they help
I remember when they call this Planet "X"... back in the 70's. "X" for ten, as Pluto was still accepted as a planet.
💯 they hated planet X Soo bad they clapped Pluto. .. Just couldn't admit the "conspiracy theoriest" were correct again.😉
Planet X and 9 are different, Planet X was not X because of 10, but x as in unknown, Pluto was belived to be Planet X originally
Planet X was supposed to account for errors in Neptune's orbit, and would be the size of saturn, and in the kuiper belt
Planet 9 is in the inner ort cloud and the size of Neptune
It still is. They had to wait until everyone left the conference to make their fake vote because they wouldn't have won otherwise.
@@jesusramirezromo2037 ?? Pretty sure planet X was way out and had a extremely large orbit around the sun . I think it was 30,000 years??
Fact is planet 10 was there all along 😁😁
@@richfrank1255 No, that's something they made up after they constantly failed to prove it exists
Planet 9 has actual evidence, even if just math
Great vid! love and peace to you and yours!
It is Nibiru
That's what they say
Nibiru... That takes me back about 2 decades, the good ole days of CZcams
It makes sense, I guess you need a lot of luck to find it with those distances and axis alterations. Crazy
I remember Art Bell's show and how exciting it was when Sedna was discovered.
Coast to Coast AM! I miss it
Thanks for keeping us informed!!
The spinning flat part of the accretion disc produces more stable orbits as the whole mass of it is spinning in a lateral plane around a center of gravity, but as the center gathers more mass than the outer edges the aggregate particles in the north and south hemispheres will coalesce and be pulled in towards the center from its high angle position with little regard to a circular orbit. There is no need to have an extra large planet in the accretion disc with this scenario, it explains everything but also predicts only in the accretion disc can large planets form and not in the north and south hemispheres of the cloud. Planets could be forming still.
Amazing, so much potent knowledge. Maybe an alien spaceship the size of a moon has been deflecting certain bodies for a long time. Most likely a planet though, weird we have not seen it yet tho.
Cutting edge as always!
When I hear "planet 9", it always reminds me of the special sf gem "Plan 9 from Outer Space". 🤪
SAME!
Had a feeling I wasn't the only one.
I only watched that movie once and never will again. Viewed it in 15 minute increments and even then I thought I would start pulling my hair out! There's another old SF movie with Tor Johnson in it as a radiation-exposed scientist who goes mad and runs around in the desert trying to terrify people. I think it might be just as bad as Plan 9. Can't remember the title just now. 😂
Edit: The movie is called "The Beast of Yucca Flats."
What if it’s just a relic of an old close encounter with another star system? Perhaps the encounter with Scholz’s Star about 80,000 years ago, at a distance of 52k-120k AU, it was within the outer bounds of the Oort Cloud. The most recent estimate is it was ~70k AU at its closest, that’s about 1.1 LY. It’s a binary star system (red dwarf + brown dwarf) with a combined mass of ~15% of the sun’s mass, so certainly massive enough to have disturbed some large objects in the Oort Cloud. With the Oort Cloud having a diameter of ~100k-400k AU, that system would have had 5k-20k years of notable gravitational influence on the outer Oort Cloud, which is plenty of time to have scattered many objects into odd orbits. It never got close enough to have a material impact on even Pluto, much less the 8 other planets.
Have they ruled out the orbits being caused by a past event, and not necessarily a present one? I'm specifically thinking of the study that came out a few years ago which suggested that we had a close encounter with another star system at some point many millions of years ago - could a star, with its higher gravity, be able to stay further away from the sun but still produce the same effect as a hypothetical planet? Since the orbits are so big as well, I suspect it would take a god-awfully long time for them to make any drastic changes (unless strongly acted upon), which would be why they still have these eccentric orbits...
I want to clarify that I'm literally just spitballing here. Would be interesting to know if it's been considered though 😅
I remember an outer planet being thought about in the 70's. It's pretty neat that these teams have been able to find evidence supporting that it may be out there and will be found.
Guys, it is not a planet!
It is a dwarf (and dead) star, brother to our Sun. Our solar system is a binary star system. By the way Jupiter once could have also become a star but it did not.
Disney ahead of you
Aliens in the observatory "they're onto us!"
It's never aliens though
“A team of researchers” 0:17 convinced me right from the start. Those guys should be tumbling through space along with asteroids and other cosmic debris in your next video. At least they weren’t wearing white lab coats. Thanks for your informative videos Anton.
thank you - every vid is great -
It's Nibiru! :O
It still surprises me that we cant find stuff in our backyard but we can see galaxys far far away. And the beautiful pictures from the James Webb.
Is it strange that we can easily detect huge objects that give off a lot of light and other radiation but have difficulty detecting a small dark object that radiates nothing?
Why? You can notice a mount 100km away from you, but you can't observe bacteria living on your own hand. These are the same, just different scale
The replies are not wrong but you are right too. its the feeling that we should know what is closest to us best...but in life and scientific discovery it is often those things we are closest to that surprise us the most.
Simplest answer is we are still young in science and a lot of stuff people might think we should have discovered by now haven't been
@@ssenyl We can see both the mountain and the bacteria. What's your point?
It's certainly good to keep an open mind about planet 9, but there are a LOT of possible explanations besides it. Remembering that we still don't know what the original stellar nursery was for the sun's formation, there could have been many massive objects involved that could have messed up a lot of trajectories before all drifting away.
Can you show the plane of ecliptic of Sol in relation to the atypical inclined planets' orbitals in your graphics?
Is it assumed the plane view you display is oriented in relation to the solar equatorial ecliptic plane? Am merely an amateur astronomer, so not familiar with the view orientations.
You are doing terrific work. Thank you! 🙏
Thanks for the space info fix.
Brown dwarf. Might even have a couple planets orbiting it
Hmmm something like that would be MUCH easier to spot, unless you're talking Phobos/Deimos size orbitals...
Brown Dwarf is basically excluded at this point, WISE would have seen anything remotely that size.
ye in the video he said the JWT could pick something like that up really well because of its infrared capabilities.
@@MrBlueBurd0451The number of times Anton mentioned primordial black holes makes me think he's got a personal theory 👍
@@smilebeatz5103Does anyone know what is the infrared range on JWST, or WISE? How cool can they detect?
Anton. What do you think about anti gravity made with old tech? Im contemplating a project and wondered what you thought about the etymoligist that allegedly made anti gravity devices and if possible adding A symmetrical RF signal to the original system,maybe inside the platform.
I have a big question: how do we know the excentricity of an object that's so far away when we discover it ?
How much time needed before being able to calculate the trajectory ?
Pluto will always be planet 9 to me.
Pluto is a dwarf planet, get over it.
Weird hill to die on
Same.
Wouldn't it be more consistent to count Ceres and Pluto be #10?
@@ImBasedKids- semantics, it's a planet get over it.
Anton petrov has become my fav astronomer on yt, always up to date and blud actually knows what he is talking about
tru dat blud lowkey
If the Oort cloud is responsible, it would require an uneven distribution of matter such that one side is far heavier at any given instance. The chaotic system that we typically assume exists at distances, distributions and masses that pretty much cancel out any sort of gravitational pull on the inner system. Yes, there is an effect, but it is almost negligible. Perhaps we thought wrong.
Edit: To address the blackhole, there would be comets and asteroids on wild ecliptic orbits that would either cease to exist (gobbled up) or slingshot into/out of the system by the gravitational field of something that massive on large enough time scales for us to see the effects. It would do the same as a planet in the early system; clean up its own orbit.
Anton is back!🤗🤗
in 1960 on the cover of Time magazine; they showed a picture of Planet 9 but they called it Nibiru
There was speculation in the 80s that IRAS detected a large body out there.
With all this UAP stuff, I'm thinking of reading Stitchen...
Planet 9's orbit hasn't been predicted to around 3600 years long, has it?
Nibiru? It'll be fun to see how the science community handles this topic
As much as people scoff at the idea of Nibiru many descriptions in the Sumerian texts have been found scientifically correct from the asteroid belt to the description of planets. If planet nine exists as a planet doubtful the public will ever know until it's no longer feasible to hide when it becomes observable in the sky.
Probably like they handled the pandemic
Nibiru doesn’t exist. At least not in the cuckoo way Nibiru fantasists think they know.
The first Yakubians still live there and are at war with the Annunaki.
@@ThoughtandMemorywhat in the way that there’s a 9th planet, like strongly evidenced in the video?
Zachariah Sitchen's Earth Chronicles are worth reading if you have an interest in these things. It's a lot of reading, and redundant at times, but he brings some very interesting things to the reader's attention concerning OUR past as well as some future possibilities. Origins.
I hope for them to find it or something, next to a major scientific descovery this would be the perfect catalyst for a ton of new scifi movies, books and other media :D
Its crazy how we can look out thousands of light years away but we still dont know what is in our backyard 🤷🏻♂️
If a small child walks in front of a brightly lit window at night you can see it pretty well, even from far away. In a pitch black environment a large person could stand within arms reach and you wouldn’t see them. We don’t see the exoplanets themselves, we see the drop in the sunlight when they pass in front of their stars.
@@codename495excellent analogy.
The deep oceans would like a word with you.
Wonderful as always Anton. Thank you. ✌️😎
the thought of a blackhole in the solar system is scary. when people say time fly's, it would definitely hit different.
Since these objects are too far away to reflect enough sunlight for us to detect, we need a new type of telescope. One that specifically detects stars that blink out for a short time as one of these dark objects shades the light from us. A few such observations should establish an orbit for such dark objects.
There are ancient texts that describe celestial objects, like the phoenix, perhaps others that have been seen at 138 year and longer periodicities. Some of these describe intense meteor showers, objects passing by and obscuring the sun that aren’t lunar eclipses etc. The dates of the reports match up also from cultures on vastly different global regions too.
138 year period is way too short to a period to be undiscovered planet. 138 years is very short on astronomical timescale. It would put the planet well inside of the orbit of Pluto, not that far from the orbit of Neptune. At that distance, you'd be able to see a major planet using regular binoculars or a cheap telescope!
Glad to see you back, Anton. I hope you’re okay.
Fun fact:
Noob with basic understanding about gravitational behavior and interactions between massive objects.
I’ve seen a bunch of videos about this mysterious “planet 9”. But the fact that we can observe such a small object like Pluto without any issues makes it for me personally very unlikely that this planet exists. At some point I thought: but what if there’s a relatively small mass Black hole somewhere in the outskirts of our solar system, but massive enough disturb the expected orbits of the planets?
At the time I didn’t mention it because I didn’t wanted to look stupid. Now that such a knowledgeable scientist like you even mentioned this I have so many regrets that I didn’t 🤣
I have a question. Is this "object" in or near (or its trajectory) the Pleiades, Orion, and or Arcturus? I ask because of both, the translations of the King's Library of Nineveh regarding the Anunnaki and Nibiru as well as the Old Testament of the Bible (specifically Amos 5:8, Job 9:9 and 9:11, and of course Revelation 8:11 and 12:3-4).
Maybe physics itself is missing something.
Most definitely. More than 1 thing.
I think we are missing something in physics
"We" keep on forgetting or abandoning that a star like ours would often begin with a silbling, so if "Nemesis" had left the solar system, a correction mode could have started sucking or accumulating mass from outside (aswell as the Hills cloud), building up Jupiter until it would be a surrogate for "Nemesis" ("Jupiter, you'll be a star one day"), gathering so much mass, gravitation or "solar system spin" to even deduct Kallisto from Mars making Mars tumble slowly. So with Mars-Kallisto the normal planet system would have been a double System, like Pluto-Charon. And there's a gap in the Edgeworth comet torus (the "Kuiper belt").
Most educated comment in the section. People forget that the planets don’t have the same inclination, so any “evidence” could just be the result of the chaotic formation of the solar system billions of years ago. The other problem is that the only people studying the possibility of Planet 9 are desperate for it to be true, and they aren’t releasing the thousands of other models which could explain any eccentric orbits. Confirmation bias is a problem in science.
Good thing you called it Nemesis and not the unmentionable Nibiru! Oops! I mentioned it!
@@michaelleroi9077 The struggle of argueing for the better words still makes me kinda stare through the mist, kinda triple-ing the load in the mind(mine) when communicating, as far as i think i feel that. Just like "the greatest of all time" is mostly just a record so far (a lot of improvable examples 'd appear), expecting to stay in perseverance, not wanting to gather "younglings" that would keep on trying to follow me. But "i'm so queasy" appearing in "the off"...
@@Simon_Jakle__almost_real_name word…(s)! I’m there!
Are you just making random space related comments?
someone should do a study on... what if there is a primodial black hole of the size and location of where the gravitational anomaly is.. how likely or easy it would be for our instruments to detect.. or what sort of instruments it will require to be able to detect it.. and what methods would have the highest chances of detecting it...?
I propose we call this hypothetical planet "Ixion". Not only because it makes for some superb acronyms, it even fits the mythology: Ixion being banished to the nether realm of Tartarus (aka deep space)
It also makes me wonder... is it possible Ixion is a planet kicked out by the movement of Jupiter and Saturn during the early formation of the solar system? Or perhaps it's a wandering exoplanet that was captured when our solar system got too close to another neighbouring star system? I think I recall that our system grazed another by 1 LY some billions of years ago? If that caused the Oort clouds of both systems to canoodle and form a planet, only for it to then fall into our solar system due to cancellation of momentum by the opposing directions of the rotating Oort clouds at 'impact'... such exciting thoughts :D