Sauron | The Lord of the Second Age - Lore Video
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- Sauron's life is tens of thousands of years long, and yet by the time of the Lord of the Rings, his best days are behind him. In this video we'll explore who he was, where he came from, and why he's one of the greatest villains that Middle-earth has ever known!
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At 15:23 I had to trim a few seconds for copyright reasons. Basically all I say in those seconds is that Sauron forged his One Ring in secret. But you probably already knew that 😁
I imagine Anatarr would look like Lucifer in fairness of skin, hair, wisdom, and poise. With only a glint in the eye or seeing through his Words as a warning to the Few, others would see it as more Beauty to amplify an already Angelic appearance.
Later as a Corrupting priest, he’d be layered in decadent apparel and metals worshipped by dozens of servants around him
I can just here Sauron now.
You know how I look so fair? You know how i, ... continue.... 9pause0 to live on fair, and, - unaging (sauron says as he smiles and walks around the king, putting not neithor a hair, nor a finger, nor did he enter the king'
s personal space, atleast, not yet.
You know, where I came from right? He said in afirmer, deaper tone.
That's right, from the land of the west.
Oh and gues what? he says more lightly. I'm not an elfe, or a Numinorian?
It's not like I have been given a blessing of long life by .
No,
The undying lands, he says as he breaths in, they are called that for areason you well know.
@tolkienuntangled 28:55 cuts mid sentence into another sentence midway
Ahhh it's a secret!
Spoiler!!!
Sauron to The King of Numenor: "Have you ever heard the tragedy of Darth Melkor the Wise?"
"Is it possible to learn this power?"
"Not from the Valar."
I thought not. It’s not a story the Noldor would tell you.
Im picturing Sauron knocking on a door and preaching 😂
@@alekai7588 Melkor’s Witnesses, am I right?
This wins!!!!!
'He defeated Galadriel's older brother in a magical battle of music.'
And that's when Sauron invented Norwegian black metal.
No that was definitely Saruman
That's a thing? Lol. I'm gettin' old. I was there when black metal was born...
Norwegian black metal more represents the Wildmen. In my opinion.
The music of illuvatar could not have included that base chords nonsense.
I'm sure it was a dance-off
And simultaneously gained the title: The Lord of the Strings.
Sauron: “these people are so disorganized and inefficient!!! Hobbits make things by hand when if they had beautiful factories with black smoke billowing, they’d be much more productive! Dwarves would be ok if they weren’t so stubborn and Elves have potential especially when improved to Orc…there is so much work to be done!”
Yes, he would only be "helping" them attain their full potential. I have a "friend" with that mindset and I can say from first hand experience that "help" is like being repeatedly smacked in the face with a cactus.
Sauron completely owned the Numenorians. Just goes to show what you can do when you put your pride aside to play the long game. And that shows how much he hated, utterly hated men. He couldn’t put his pride aside for the Valar but for men, oh he’d do whatever he needed.
He also knew he wouldn’t have any chances to manipulate the Valar. Your line of thought is fundamentally wrong.
@@raphaelcalado4335 He could not put his pride aside to be forgiven and save himself, but to corrupt and destroy the humans, oh, he could do that
@@raphaelcalado4335 But he could have manipulated the Valar. At least if by manipulation you mean simply making them believe his act of "true repentance". When you think of it, the Valar have pretty sucky track record in assessing sincerity, corruption or capabilities of a character. Even Mandos made a huge mistake with Melkor. Yavanna insisted to send Radagast to sniff flowers and do fak all for the Istari. Aulë had no effin' clue about how he mis-tutored Sauron and Saruman to seek the same powerful evil: the creation of perfect order through absolute domination.
In the celestial scale of skills, Sauron was at best an advanced creator. But he was the master of deception. Without pride, he would have made the best play of repentance ever played under the eyes of Elu Iluvatar, and tricked the God himself.
@@npyrhone2 completely. The Valar are inclined to believe and not judge someone who claims repentance hence why Melkor was let off the hook so easily after being imprisoned for 3000 years by just saying "uh i'm sorry" lol. to me in a way this makes Sauron almost a truth teller - or at least what he feels is the truth bc he does take great pride in whatever he does and hence could not lie and repent when he didn't really feel it.
along this line of thought he was also telling the Numenorieans the "truth" when he deceived them - they really were not immortal and he really did believe Morgoth was the giver of freedom and he really did hate the Valar and thought the Numenorians should go against them
@@npyrhone2 Sauron may have the ability to fool the God. Yet I Don't think he could have done anything remotely close to his achievement with men. To have the whole continent destroyed by God... would have been much greater feat.
When I first read the Akallabeth, my respect for Sauron went up immensely. Sauron's plan in Numenor was an absolute masterstroke. He played them like a fiddle.
To quote Oswald Cobblepot, Sauron "played this stinking city like a harp from Hell."
If it was that good there would have been no faithful.
Sauron's deception of Numenor helps explain Denethor's reluctance to accept Gandalf's help. :P The proferred wisdom and advice of a mysterious figure of unknown power would be difficult to trust a second time.
I see your connection, but its jjst a theory
Keep in mind that sauron and Gandalf are both maiar.
Nice, never thought of this before!
@@pdub88372 I thought Gandalf was Dunadein?
@@mosj9876 no. He's not an old man. He's a Maiar named Olorin
Mate this video IS my view of Sauron. He is the most compelling villain in all of Tolkien works. A farrrrrr more interesting character than melkor. I’m a huge huge fan of Sauron.
Sauron got beat by a Woman. He's lucky she let him live 🤦🏾♂️
@@elvatoz 🤣🤣🤣
@@elvatoz why’s being beaten by a woman different to getting beat by anything else?
@@JagoBridgland ask the ringwraith the same thing 😂.
Beaten by a woman... It is a fantasy tale 🤣
@@elvatoz lol No woman ever defeated Sauron in the Legendarium. Luthien sh*t herself when the wolf-Sauron came to face her. Only the mere presence of Sauron, made her faint desperately... 😂 (And she is known as the most powerful elf and half Maia)
Here is the quote from Tolkien's "Lay of Leithian" book:
"More huge were its limbs, its jaws more wide,
its fangs more gleaming-sharp, and dyed
with venom, torment, and with death.
The deadly vapor of its breath
swept on before it. Swooning dies
the song of Lúthien, *and her eyes
are dimmed and darkened with a fear,
cold and poisonous and drear.*
Thus came Sauron, as wolf more great
than e'er was seen from Angband's gate
to the burning south, than ever lurked
in mortal lands or murder worked."
[J.R.R Tolkien, The Lay of Leithian, p125]
Luthien's eyes are *"dimmed and darkened with fear..."* She literally sh*t herself lol. It was Huan who saved her from wolf-Sauron
Numenor: dude we kicked your ass lol!
Sauron: hold my rings.
Sauron was just actually playing with them. He literally cast the "mighty" fleet of Ar-Pharazon out of the sea he lifted up the armada lol
@@_semih_ u need the /s or what?
@@vondamn9943 lol
Sauron completely owned the Numenorians. Genius.
You’re not the only one who has a soft spot for Sauron; I enjoyed his company very much.
No matter how goth you are, Melkor is Morgoth.
@@monsterinhead214 lol, nice
"But, Sauron was utterly defeated when Luthien, and her faithful hound, came to rescue her lover." Damn yes. Game to Luthien! You're also spot on in your analysis of Sauron's building of his power in the Second Age. His grip on Middle earth was undeniable.
It was not Luthien who beat Sauron, it was Huan the holy hound of Valinor. Luthien literally sh"t herself and faded desperately when the wolf-Sauron faced her lol
Wasn't Huan kind of a Maiar himself? He was certainly more buffed than your ordinary war hound.
So was Carcharoth, because he ate straight from Morgoth's hand.
Uruk-Hai in Two Towers also said something about Saruman's hand feeding them human meat, though I am not sure Saruman was literally coming to their pens/barracks and feeding them personally. Still, they were certainly stronger than your typical orcs, so who knows.
@@_semih_ here you are, being insecure again.
@Semih what's with you and women defecating on themselves?
She was froze with fear, no mention of bodily functions bro...seek help.
@@_semih_she didn't do any of these things. Maybe read the story again focusing on the action not how you want to see it... For whatever reason. Both Huan and Luthien stalled for a moment when he approached because of how terrifying he was but Luthien cast a spell and threw her cloak to distract him when he attacked Huon. She then continued to cast magic to help Huon with the fight. They worked together
Regarding the question whether Sauron truly repented or not, I think it is fairly simple: yes he did... from a certain point of view. I think he primarly lamented the fact that Melkor failed to live up to his expectations and that even with the power the aforementioned being granted Sauron, he still failed in his personal goal to create a perfect global and cosmic utopia. However, I don't think he felt remorse for any of what the Valar might consider 'immoral' actions. This is because Sauron sees the world in purely utilitarian means and believes that anyone who disagrees with that lacks his wisdom. And that's why he refused to go to Valinor: he believed that the Valar wouldn't understand his goals and, most importantly, wouldn't allow him to reach said goals.
They ask me if I feel remorse and I answer, "Why of course! There is so much more I could have done if they'd let me!"
Melkor was a classic Dark Lord, Sauron was an evil genius.
If he did, he wouldnt continue 🤷♀️
@@jangolub8240 That was a clear reference to Nick Cave! :D
@@vaiyt Basically a villain second class. :D
I also have a soft spot for Sauron. Of course in the way you respect a villain for what they delusionally feel is right and their struggle to attain it.
In his letters Tolkien himself states that Sauron is in many regards worse than Morgoth. His corruption his domination and his will to twist mortals into his own perversion of order vs Morgoths contempt and need to destroy all and remake it in his image.
Bending one to your will vs destroying them. Both remove the enemy but one is far more terrible for the enemy themselves.
as a great craftsman Sauron also built the black gate and the tower of Barad-dur, both very impressive feats.
I'm pretty sure the black numenorians built barad dur tho
@@davidelatorella4121 they probably stole it ain’t no white women there 👍🏾
The Black Gate was build by the Arnorians/Gondorians to keep watch over the evil in Mordor after destroying Barad-Dur the first time. Barad-Dur tho was build by Sauron himself, witch is why the white council and all the Power the last Alliance could muster, was not able to tear it down completely. As long as the one ring existed its power supported the foundations...
@@davidelatorella4121 the Numenorians build Orthanc but not Barad-Dur... :)
I understand why in the movies, Sauron is portrayed as a powerful warrior who wipes ranks of men and elves away with a single swipe, it's just better for the screen. But his portrayal in the books as not a warrior, but a cunning liar, capable of carrying out long term plans over hundreds of years to corrupt and destroy from within is so much more interesting, and adds so much depth to his character and his villain.
Luthien and her hound against Sauron was the story I hoped Amazon would do, but now I just hope they do nothing lol.
Agree i hope they Idk just stay to source and leave out politics or go away
@@matthewalbi555 They cant leave politics out of it, theyre cultists. The best thing they could have done is indeed nothing.
Imagine the story started with the first kinslayin the exile of the noldor the intro is mandos speach over a hellcaraxe montage
@@maxthommesen9315 i wouldve loved to see my favorite Elf, Fingolfin, bought to life on screen.. starting with oath of Feanor, the first kinslaying, the burning of the Teleri ships and Fingolfin being forced into the crossing of the Hellcaraxe to reach Middle Earth. To see each confrontation of Feanor and Fingolfin with Morgoth wouldve been epic.
I'm not sure if the more comprehensible motives of Sauron or the totally inscrutable motives of Morgoth are more terrifying.
It's kind of like the differences in terror aroused from the absolutely unknowable nihilism of cosmic horror and the terror of monstrous, demonic, but ultimately recognizable and even understandable pathologies of human sociopaths.
Pretty cool concept, that.
This video was legit AF.
HOW does this channel have only 2k subs?
I predict a significant explosion in viewership in this channel's future.
Morgoth's petty jealousy and greed (and less evil but also his creative impulses that by the design of the in-universe God he could never truly fulfil) that lay at the base of his desire to undo Arda are also pretty understandable.
Sauron knew that he wasn't close to Valar's power, so his scope was also smaller. He wanted to rule over the world and craft it according to his designs.
Melkor at first wanted to take control and create on his own without input from everybody else, but he later turned into full blown nihilist.
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Melkor is way worse. You could actually negotiate with sauron not melkor.
Power is a finite thing. Everything Sauron used his powers he diminished. Melkor experienced the same, as did Galadriel.
It was different with Galadriel. Because of the "natural corruption" of the middle earth (caused by Melkor), things decayed and diminished there.
This affected elves. The were immortal, but if they remained on Middle Earth, they'd keep diminishing until they became "a forgotten folk of cave and dell" (IIRC the words in the book).
As for Lorien itself that she maintained from said decaying and diminishing, she maintained it with the power of Nenya, one of the Three. When the One Ring was destroyed, all the three rings of power too became powerless, so Galadriel's "works" on Middle Earth too withered away.
That's why Rings of Power come into play. And why he wanted to lay claim to three elven rings.
One Ring contained big part of his original power and even when far away, he still had a connection to it. If Sauron ever got it back, he would get much closer to his initial level, though fair form was forever lost to him after Numenor.
God's enemies devil demons all their lies plans deeds be binded failed punished destroyed in the name of Jesus Christ! !
Or denethor
I don't remember melkor diminishing. Sauron put his power into the ring so this wouldn't happen. Also Gandalf got stronger when he came back he didn't diminish.
I personality think he's a much more interesting character than Melkor. Melkor filled the "trickster who liberates man" archtype in mythology, with many of his other traits being taken directly from Gadreel (Satan/Lucifer/etc.), which I have zero issue with, but I find Sauron's motives much more interesting. It's not him rebelling and essentially throwing a temper tantrum by trying to destroy/corrupt everything God made. It's his views that are driving him, a (what would be to him) better world that he seeks to create. This trait is rather common for "bad guys" (subjective of course) throughout history, and why they also still have lots of supporters to this day, people read from the source and something resonates with them. I know this sort of thing was completely out of the realm of possibly for a writer like Tolkien, who liked being clear what was good and what was evil, but it would have been interesting to see a Sauron's PoV, or one of his followers, to give insight in to the _why_ which is harder to discern when all you see is the villain.
Sauron was god
God's enemies devil demons all their lies plans deeds be binded failed punished destroyed in the name of Jesus Christ!
@@eluilus4017 Sauron wasn't god.... Eru Iluvitar was....
I wonder what Saurons ideal world would have looked like.
@@gholamdapantaloonsniffer8218 Illuvatar, not Illuvitar.
Gotta say the pictures where he is kind of a darkly complected redhead really suit the idea of him. Whenever I read the parts where he can still take on a fair form I'm gonna probably picture him like that from now on.
I actually wanted to see more exploits of Sauron like in Second Age, using not just brute strength, but also cunning, manipulation and charisma to achieve his goals.
He did do that, Tolkien Untangled simply chose to ignore it. Remember that he corrupted Saruman (do you honestly believe that Saruman woke up one day and went: lets work for Sauron!)
Thanks for another entertaining and informative video. You really make things clear.
I think another lesson to take from Sauron's life is, "Be content with what you have." Sauron spent his entire life trying to become the Lord of Everything, but he never achieved it. Each time he tried for more, he was beaten. He never achieved contentment.
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Just discovered this channel, and damn...I hope you earned more subscribers, because you ABSOLUTELY deserve it!
You narration and presentation are simply wonderful, and inject just enough emotional intonation and inflection as the factual lore. Thank you 🙂
This was so good. Sauron is a fascinating character - I love learning more and filling out my imagining of him.
Sauron is god
God's enemies devil demons all their lies plans deeds be binded failed punished destroyed in the name of Jesus Christ!!
I like the premise here. Subbed.
I wish we'd gotten as large a view of Sauron's character from Tolkein as he gave us of Fëanor.
Great video. From Tolkien’s belonging to the Roman-Catholic faith, I always interpret the Iluvatar / Valar / Maiar hierarchy as being:
Iluvatar = God
Valar = Arch-Angels
Maiar = Angels
This would have made Sauron at his beginning as a Maiar close to the level of an Angel, similar to the same level as the Istari Saruman (who was also a Maiar of Aule) although probably a lot more exalted, whereas his boss Morgoth was a Valar (equivalent to an Arch-Angel), who was created as one of the most powerful of the Valar, but both Morgoth and Sauron followed “the same ruinous path down into the Void”. (The Silmarillion, Valaquenta, p. 39).
And Melkor is Lucifer who becomes the devil.
This is precisely what makes Sauron the more appealing villain. He's not an encoded copy.
Yeah precisely the story of Melkor becoming Morgoth is basically Lucifer becoming the devil name change and everything
And the Fall of Man, Noah's Arc, and the Tower of Babel are all part of the fall of Numenòr. They sought that which was explicitly denied them and took it at the behest of a deceiver, the bad ones died in a flood while the Faithful survived, and they had sought to become powerful and reach a holy place.
@@draztiktunez7104 Except Melkor just sounds evil, while the name Lucifer would be a good name if it didn't belong to Satan.
@@catfinity8799 lucifer is his name before the fall.
Fully agreed, Sauron is not just the evil bad guy like most common fans think he is, that's why I love Tolkien, if you dive deeper you will find so much depth inside his character. Unlike Melkor who just wanted to dominate everything no matter the cost, Sauron wanted always to create and rule over a perfect world, even Tolkien himself in unfinished tales tells us that Sauron's motives in the Early Second Age weren't truly "evil". But over his many years of failure his perfect vision started to decline and his ambition for power turned into hatred of those which oposed him and over whom he tried to sease control.
This was awesome, well done and thank you!
Very articulate and well put together. I really enjoyed every moment of this video.
Loved this video & perspective on the Great Deceiver. Very balanced, thorough, & well delivered.
29:06 Actually Sauron defeated 2 high kings and perished the entire army of the Last Alliance singehandedly.
Fantastic content! Thank you for all you do! Much love!
Excellent video. It was great to hear about Saurom from a fresh perspective
Dude, this was excellently done!
Honestly, for as much as Sauron is built up, it's hilarious how often he got his ass kicked in the lore
He was playing the long game. We’re it not for Frodo and gollum, he was winning the entire time.
Whew, great video! Thank you
I just came upon this series and watched a few. Loved it! The stories are well-written and narrated, and make great use of people's illustrations. Nicely done! It looks like this channel started in 2020, so perhaps somebody had some free time during the pandemic?
Biggest Tolkien nerd I have ever run across. Well done, sir! Please keep it up.
This was fascinating. Thank you.
I know I’m late to comment but this is definitely one of the best explanations I’ve heard on this topic! Thanks
Learned a lot from this which is a fairly rare occurrence these days. Great video
Another wonderful colorful video from one of my very favorite multi colored Creators.
Powerful story telling keep up the vids 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Awesome video, thanks!
One of the most interesting videos of yours that I've seen so far, thanks! Surprisingly, because I never paid much attention to Sauron's motivations.
Also, I thought the "Lord of the Rings" was the One Ring himself.
I'm glad you found it interesting. Tolkien actually tells us in the text that the Lord of the Rings is Sauron himself. He has a go at Pippin for referring to Frodo by that title.
@@tolkienuntangled that's interesting. Poor Pippin. My favourite hobbit, crucial.to the story, yet such a punch bag at times :')
Well technically yes since the ring is part of sauron and contains part of sauron’s soul, meaning that technically the ring was sauron
Fascinating in concept and long-lasting in argument. Thank you.
Wow, I actually felt some sympathy for for Sauron.
What a great alternative take on a story I had established in my mind for 40+ years!
Still Sauron was evil 😆
You have an excellent Tolkien mythology channel
What a wonderful way to review the ages of Sauron. Even though I've heard all of this before, I think I prefer this cliff notes version. Thanks dude!
Edit: I wonder if Sauron's character and the great fall of the isle Númenor was a tale of warning from J.R.R. after his experience in WW1? I guess you can read a lot of his personal experiences in this tale especially.
Interestingly enough, Tolkien absolutely hated allegory. He said as much in interviews, and his son reiterated it years after his death. Of course, I think it would be impossible for his experiences during the Great War to not affect his writing. After all, he arrived in France just in time for the Somme.
It was a reoccurring dream Tolkien had of England being swept away by the ocean. PJ gives these lines to Eowyn in the Extended trilogy
Great video, very informative!
The war of the ring was Saurons midlife crisis moment. "Just see if I still got it"
Just found your page, I love your way of narrating and storytelling my g. Keep it up 😎
Of course you find Sauron interesting! He's literally "Koschei The Deathless" from eastern European mythology. More than that Voldemort from Harry Potter is also Koschei the Deathless.....the wizard that can't be killed because he put his essence into a physical item. If you like Lloyd Alexander he also uses this in "Taran Wanderer" with Morda. If you call that item a phylactery or a horcrux......it makes for a truly godlike bad guy. ;)
Sauron is god
Book is written from demonic perspective
God's enemies devil demons all their lies plans deeds be binded failed punished destroyed in the name of Jesus Christ!!
@@eluilus4017go see a psychiatrist.
Thanks for this, I have a whole new view of the series I’m finding my LOTR book now.
God damn it man... that's excellent narrative.
Hi I LOVE your videos!!! I personally would love a video of you explaining the different types of elves there are as this is something I haven't seen too much on and it seems quite interesting, just an idea for you, keep up the great work!!!
Thank you, I'm really glad you enjoy the videos! Have you seen the one on the Sundering of the Elves? It's part 4 in the Beginning of Days playlist, and it's got some info on how the different types of elves split into different clans and where they all came from :)
@@tolkienuntangled No worries and no I havent seen that video..... yet ;) Thankyou for suggesting this!!
Great video, thanks. The Second Age is quite interesting! I wonder how Amazon will handle it. Here’s to hoping!
Sauron is an incredible character and the movies doesnt do him justice. ty for this amazing video.
This video deserves more views.
Sauron is definitely the most interesting character to me as well. His character development is so complex despite minimal appearances.
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Completely enthralling!
Holy smokes I had to check what I was listening to. I thought you were Skill-Up talking about LOTR. Very cool.
I keep thinking you're baradun from VLDL's Epic NPC Man. Love your channel!!
6:50 - "this must have struck a rather saur note .. with Sauron!"
Sauron ruling behind the scenes reminds me of Tywin Lannister
He certainly does come across like a Game of Thrones villain throughout the Second Age!
God's enemies devil demons all their lies plans deeds be binded failed punished destroyed in the name of Jesus Christ! !
Awesome video.
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Excellent video, as always. I just wanted to add that it's a "blind spot" of Sauron's to wish to rule a perfect world, when the very concept of imperfection itself was introduced INTO Arda by his former master, Melkor. Talk about starting from a bad premise... lol
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Nice great video
Also interesting enough saruman also served aule and aule also created the drawfs
I'd love to see a video from the perspective of Sauron WINNING. What would happen? Would he eventually try to attack the West? I think that would be interesting.... great videos on this channel. Well thought out and explained.
Compared to Melkor, Sauron really is the more interesting of them both - great video! 👏🏻
Finally someone who shares my opinion on morgoth and Sauron there so cool
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I think you can describe both dark lord's attitude as "a child-like tantrum against a Daddy figure who wouldn't call them special and give them everything they wanted." Sauron and Melkor were spoiled brats rebelling against an authority they both knew was all powerful but refused to admit they had no chance of ever besting but tried anyway. Brats. Ungrateful brats. An argument can be made that Elu was a jerk and a half, too. After all, the entire history of Middle Earth was filled with untold suffering and death, and all of it was simply to prove a point to Melkor and his friends. And in the only punishment the two biggest jerks paid was being banished from the playground, when all the fun was over there anyway. No mention is ever made of Elu punishing them for all that pain they caused.
No doubt this particular video has gifted me more knowledge, insight and appreciation of Tolkien's legendarium... AND entertainment than the entirety of the Amazon Project series would have ...
He is the ‘star’ of the trilogy, at least in the sense that he is the title character and the strongest character in the series that everyone, is to some degree or another, thinking about.
Excellent
Well told!
Beautiful take. The deceiver was received by his own warped sense of virtue. Should perfection be crafted by dominion. Should order be crafted by control.
The mightiest of all the Ainur was Melkor.
Tulkas: Bet.
Sauron is the greatest craftsman ever to live on Middle Earth.
Fëanor: Bet.
Celebrimbor bet
Dave, Id never thought about Saurons lack of Military Success but he was a consummate manipulator and user of guile to achieve his aims
"A being of many names"......yeah, as does many different characters throughout Tolkien's books, and a nightmare to keep up with as many of their names are so similar to other character's.
I'd never thought of Sauron in Greek tragic terms, but in drawing together all the threads here as you always do so well, I'm persuaded that he is a victim of sorts . For all of his free will and agency, what he needed above all else was a mentor who wasn't a fallen Vala, and could still show him how he might achieve his admirable, somewhat Prometheus-like goals in much lighter-handed ways and without that thirst for expediency that led him into Melkor's suffocating embrace. In a sense he suffered a sort of abandoned child syndrome.
Great analysis ....one of the reasons because Sauron lost a lot of power it is because he poured much of his power/essence into the one ring and into the middle earth itself for pervert every creature in it.
Loved this post (revisited it again this evening after quite some time). I can't get my head around one question and would appreciate your views. If Sauron had the ring in Numenore and his physical form was destroyed after its downfall - with his spirit returning to middle-earth - how the hell did he get the ring back to Mordor. I mean it was a physical ring right (we know this because it was taken from in later in the last alliance of elves and men). Any thoughts, or am I missing something :)
Go watch The Rings of Power. You'll love Sauron. He's basically the only character on that show that ISN'T evil...
4:05 I can hear Feanor screaming in rage all the way from Mandos
There's alot of "Sympathy for Sauron" being demonstrated here🤔
I hear a Rolling Stones parody beginning:
🎶Please allow me to introduce myself, I'm a man of crafting rings🎶
🎶I was around before my master Melcor had uprooted things🎶
🎶hoo-hoo🎶
🎶hoo-hoo🎶
🎶Pleased to meet you, in black speech, speak my name🎶
🎶if you bear the One Ring that IS ME, you'll never be the same🎶
🎶woo-woo🎶
🎶woo-woo🎶
🤣🤣🤣
🤣🤣🤣