“Most Useful Pigment for Greens” - Roman Szmal
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My favorite pair is PY150 + PB60 for mixing lush foliage green. I love how the whole mixing range can be used as green, and the paints are available in most brands.
that mix is definitely a luscious one!
My favorite from this video too!
I like PY150 and similar PY129 with Prussian blue PB27 and with Indigo. Interesting greens. Thank you for very wide comparison.
PY150 + W&N Payne's Grey for a cheeky quick 'holly green'. Daniel Smiths PY150 disperses so wildly, you can make a grass green shade with it, paint a horizontal line of it, then paint water above it and watch the grass grow before your eyes. Try it :)
Thank you for sharing this tip! Winsor and Newton Payne's gray and New Gamboge are two main colors that I keep on all of my palettes. The latter is comprised predominantly of PY150 and is my favorite yellow/quin gold cousin for mixing greens. However, it NEVER dawned on me to mix New Gamboge with Payne's Gray. Mind blown and thank you for sharing! 🎨
A secret property of PY150 is it pushing other pigments out of the way in wet-on-wet, as if it contained a lot of oxgall. Spattering it over darker wet pigments is like lighting it with fairy lights. PY129 doesn't have this property! One caveat, for some reason DaVinci's brand doesn't seem to do this, but all others I've used do!
For a long time my favorite pigment for mixing greens was Azo Yellow Green Py129. I find both pigments very similar in their properties, and both make great greens and interesting red-oranges.
someone below just mentioned PY129 as well!
@@PaintinHiding It's not visible to me, strangely. :/
Thank you for another great video.
Yes! 100% agree.
I agree PY150 (or PY129) are very useful colors for mixing (not only) greens. But I find myself lately using bismuth yellow very often, when mixing greens. And I really love it. I know it is not as transparent as PY150. But I find the versions from Qor and DS not too opaque. 😊
i feel you. sometimes i do feel py150 pushes too much
Love seeing all these beautiful mixes. ❤
LOVE PY150. It’s in every palette. 😊 I have to admit I collect it. 😂
PY150 was also my favourite pigment for greens, until I tried PY129 and now it’s my favourite one. For me PY129 makes more
realistic greens and PY150 more vibrant greens. I have both of them in my palette, I use mostly PY150 for sunsets and light parts of architecture
Yes I guessed right! Totally agree i discovered this a while back and have two main mixed base mother greens using nickle Azo yellow. One that is more yellow/golden and one that is more greenish! Then mix other things to make all greens and they can look very real to nature very easily!
that's similar to me~ i'm currently using autumn green as my base green and adjust accordingly :)
Nice video. PY150 is the only yellow I need. I once mixed a bunch of greens with PY150 and also PY151 for comparison, which is super clean and transparent without the earthiness. In mid-dilution mixes they all looked exactly the same.. So I don't see any need for a "cleaner" yellow in the palette. Lately I have been into mixing phthalo greens with oranges for deep olives. They definitely stand up to those phthalos -- try it out!
I'm in the PY129 camp too 😄 I considered getting PY150 based on the recommendation of Kimberly Krick (because of the huge value and temperature range), but I don't need more yellow - it's my least used color. And then I discovered PY129 acts like a proper yellow in portrait tones as well 🤯 and that sealed it for me.
I like to allow colors to mix on paper in my travel sketches, so a pure yellow wouldn't work for that. PY129 on its own is the color of foliage and grass hit by sunlight. It's also great for shallow water.
I enjoy PY129 too, but PY150 has a special property of pushing away other pigments. Spattered wet on wet on darker colors, it is magical -- it is like sprinkling fairy lights on your painting. Except DaVinci's for some reason, which doesn't seem to spread like this, but I've experienced this in all other brands.
@@jennw6809 That's very cool, thanks for sharing this tip! :) I'll try it out if I get PY150.
@@NelaDunato It's very fun. It just occurred to me that if you have some oxgall or synthetic oxgall, you could add it to just about any color (for instance PY129) and get the same effect?? I'll have to experiment.
My favorite green mix is actually Green Gold, PY129, and a Phthalo Green Yellow Shade, PG36. This is the mix that Van Gogh uses for their Sap Green which I keep on my palette. However I also keep Winsor and Newton's New Gamboge as the primary yellow on my palettes. New Gamboge contains PR150 and PR209 and reminds me of a softer version of Quin Gold, but it's still tints out to a mid-tone and very light yellow making it very versatile. I also enjoy using this color with phthalo greens. The red slightly knocks back the green creating a very natural sap green color, and the glowing quality of PY150 makes greens look alive. If I didn't have space for PY129, I would definitely keep PY150 over the former on my palette since I can easily mix what looks like a PY129 by adding a very little amount of green to PY150 but you can't mix PY150 from PY129. Nevertheless, both of these Azo colors are phenomenal for mixing greens!
i actually have that same VG sap green in my vangogh palette! XD
Agree 100% Nickel Azo Yellow makes beautiful luminous greens
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PY150 is my favorite yellow of all time. I have many tubes of each brand. I use it for painting light. Mix a little PO48/PO49 and you get the literal color of light. And yes, I did stock up on Quin Gold in various brands when it was announced that PO48 was being discontinued, lol. I will be able to mix my own quin gold with my favorite pigments until I die....and then some. And my favorite color is green. Kelly green is my favorite shade of green, I have so many clothes that color, lol, but for paint Roman Szmal's Autumn Green is my favorite green paint of all time. Ever. Point blank. Period. I think you definitely need to visit greens. Not being a green person is simply not acceptable🤣🤣
lol
This is stunning, what a fantastic video, watched and enjoyed till the end ☺☺
thanks chantelle 🥰
I prefer his cousin PY129 (nickel azomethine green yellow) for mixing greens. I choose the nickel azo yellow instead when I want more warmer/earthy tones leaning toward oranges. They make a nice pair of cool/warm yellow particularly in the Aquarius range.
many people seem to like that pigment for greens as well :)
This was awesome. Nickel Azo Yellow is my #1 yellow also. Love the dirty greens it makes. Here in swampy south Ga. we're short on pretty greens. It would be interesting if you did a mix review of Chromium Oxide green. I was surprised at some of the colors it makes.
oooh pg17! hmmm i’ll put it on my ever growing list ;)
Fun watching ;)
thanks Leo!
First!
From the title, I’m guessing you are referring to his interview with Jackson’s where he said that PY150 is the most useful pigment for mixing greens?
🎖🥇🏅🏆 for all the firsts you've missed ;P and rightchu are!
@@PaintinHiding Oooo! That first medal looks so fancy and enticing! 😄
Oh gosh, Nickel Azo Yellow is going to be a new addition to my watercolor collection. I didn’t realize it was so versatile with its range of warm to cool yellow. Thanks so much for sharing this wonderful informational video.
im so glad u can see its potential 😆👍🏻
I really like your color mixing showcase! Thanks!
my pleasure
I have the Holbein PY150, PO48 ( Quin Gold) because of affordability…. to mix greens. I wonder how similar or different it is to DS NAYellow.
I definitely agree that nickel azo yellow is very very useful!!❤❤❤
It replaces my long-lost Gamboge fairly well. A bit cooler in dilution but very close.
u and me both! :D
I just recently got into my nickle azo yellow and it just keeps joining in my painting. Love it. Thanks for the green show!
glad u enjoyed!
Khadi Fat Book, lots of blues and pretty swatch. Sign me in 😁. I havent played enough with my P150, thanks for igniting the will to do so. 💚
me too~ i use it for painting but i had never swatched it with so many blues before
Nickel Azo Yellow is definitely my favorite Yellow. As you explained, I love its versatility. I haven’t tried mixing it to create green, however so I will have to try it. Thank you for making this video. I find it very inspiring.
yes definitely try it out! i dont mix greens too often myself so making this video was also inspiring for me in its own way :D
It's my favorite yellow by far! The one I use in limited palettes, due to it's magical temperature change. PB60 is my favorite blue, as it can mix gorgeous greens and purples. Thanks for sharing this. 🌻
ohhh looks like the PB60 mix is a favourite! someone else also mentioned it, i'll need to try painting with that mix more :D
Both Nickel Azo Yellow and Autumn Green are a must for me. I also like to mix PY150 with Prussian Blue (PB27).
Py150 is a must for me. I love to mix it with perylene green for foliage. The other yellow I love is yellow sophie by sennelier
i never thought about the mix with perylene green until this video, beautiful indeed!
@@PaintinHiding it is also lovely mixed with green gold py129.
I actually just got PY150 in PENCIL form. Caran d'Ache Luminance has an Indian Yellow pencil that is PY150. It is lovely ... different experience than watercolor though where you get that GLOW
ohh i didnt know they had that~
That was fun! I'm also not really a green person but this makes it all much more interesting.
hope you’re doing well Jen! 🥰
I am not kidding when I say I was trying to figure out how to mix nice greens, i tried lemon yellow and pb15, then i moved on to pb16 and then i turn on yt to see your video and i had py150 just next to me. IT WAS MEANT TO BE, haha
😂👍🏻👍🏻
I just tried it out with a few different blues, it really is gorgeous! Especially with indigo. I really need that Autumn Green now too, I've been meaning to get it forever.
hey, that's great! it's always nice to watch but much better to try it for yourself :D i'm glad u like it.
4:26 Whoa... Prodigal Son's PB33 Manganese Blue. I bought some of that during a break from their break last month. But I got it in pigment form and haven't got around to making a batch yet. I assume you got a half pan. What did you think of PB33? How can one tell it's the real thing?
Speaking of batches, I made my first hand made watercolor today... Prodigal Sons PB82 Maya Blue Dark, 3 whole pans. When I ordered it, I think I meant to order a lighter version... but I can't remember what I was thinking then.
Well, I will give PY150 some serious thought for my next order/resupply.
well, pb33 just looks like a more vibrant version of cerulean blue pb35. how can one tell if it's the real thing - well, i dont know. if prodigal sons is selling a fake version then we've all been scammed. i dont have any other pb33 to compare so i dont know. No, i did not buy the half pan. A friend bought some and then shared some with me. you can watch my vid on prodigal son's here czcams.com/video/00iL9GMfc0A/video.htmlsi=FClRGShmk9ziDSLx
It’s a very nice video full of mixing. What about Roman Szmal Tubes? I watched a video about pans and tube and Mr Roman said “work in progress”…
A nickel for your thoughts. 1: Mass tone +mix - 2: Warm tone +mix - 3: Cool tone +mix - 4: Mix Mass tone. Is this the GEST of it? Awesome!
I had the chance to try PY108 and PY153 and both are even more beautiful than PY150. They have the same glow but are cleaner in mass tone. PY108 is especially beautiful.
i haven't tried PY108. i have py153 from sennelier and it acts more like PY154 without a glow. which brand did u try?
@@PaintinHiding I tried the Aquafine one. It’s discontinued now, but I managed to find a couple of tubes. It’s orange-yellow in mass tone and a mid- to lemon -yellow when diluted.
py150 is one of the three yellows i use in my "small" pallet =D its amazing how it can work as both temperatures. if i could only use 3 colors, py150 would be my nobrainer choice for the yellow =D
Very smart! What are the two other colors?
same here! ;D
@@polgara28 opera pink and phtalo turquoise :)
Interesting. Cyan magenta pink and I’m guessing it’s because you can make any color fr9m these three correct?
Kind of unrelated to the video, but since it's in the topic of greens, do you happen to have W&N's Cobalt Green? They have an uncommon hue for PG50, a "minty" cobalt green that I haven't seen in any other brands. Holbein and Shinhan have similar hues for their Cobalt Greens but those are mixtures. Have you tried the hue before?
i have tried w&n's cobalt green PG50 from their dot card. it doesn't look minty to me. looks just like other middle green cobalt greens made with PG50 (like roman szmal's cobalt green light and lukas's cobalt green). as for holbein and shinhan cobalt green hues, i agree that those are more 'minty' in hue and i can only assume they might have been trying to replicate something between cobalt green and cobalt turquoises. who knows~
@@PaintinHiding Oooh that's really interesting! I remember getting entranced by the hue when I first saw it featured in Kim Crick's W&N video. I managed to find a tiny 5mL tube of the colour in an art store ~2hrs away from me. It has an old packaging tho (likely 2014-2016), so I wonder if they changed the pigment they use since.
If this is the case, I'm going to regret not getting the 14ml tube coz it's becoming my new favourite green. 😥😥 It's almost similar to PG18 when diluted, but in masstone, it stays very pastel. It also has a more drastic granulation like its teal PG50 sibling.
@@PaintinHiding I dunno if they're phasing out this old hue, because in Jackson's W&N listing, the Cobalt Green has been out of stock since forever, every time I try to order.
So sad it’s a heavy metal I’d love to use it more but I want a non-toxic palette 😭
i feel you!
I was a bit sceptical first, but that swatch from a warm masstone to a cool lemonyellow looks like witchcraft!
I try to avoid collecing a lot of
paints, and keep my palette rather limited, but I will add this one to my shopping list.
it's definitely a must try! and if you dont like it on its own, u can always use it in mixes :)
It’s not always called that, look for the pigment number in your preferred brand. I love it, it’s always in my palette.
@dees3179 Obviously. Paint names are generally nonsensical, often blatantly wrong. I always look at the pigment numbers, and prefer single pigment paints.
Now let's talk about those blues... Esp the pb33...
haha~ what about them?
@@PaintinHiding quite a variety you have there. I think there's enough for a video on blues
@@markyteo there are? apart from the pb33, the other pigments are widely available though. 😅
@@PaintinHiding it's an interesting mix, like smalt blue, indanthrone blue vs indigo/Prussian blue etc. That's a full video's worth!
@@markyteo alright, if u insist, i shall add it to my list. but no promises! 😜
Wait a minute… I’m looking at my Roman Szmal mixing set of 14 and there’s no nickel azo yellow in there 😅
😅😂
Theoretically I understand the appeal of PY150, but emotionally I just can’t stand it, it just looks dirty to me. I prefer PY154 as the only yellow. It is a perfect mid-yellow that lacks character, it is also quite transparent and very lightfast. It has all the same functionality but is much subtle.
i used to like py154 before i discovered py150. to each their own! ;D
@@PaintinHiding indeed!