The trick that made animation realistic

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  • Rotoscoping changed animation forever. This is how.
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    One breakthrough made animation look natural. And it involved a clown dancing on a roof.
    In this episode of Vox Almanac, Vox’s Phil Edwards explores the beginning of rotoscoping, a technique animators can use to create realistic motion. Invented by Max Fleischer of Fleischer Studios (and echoed and practiced by many others), it involves taking filmed footage and using it as a traceable model for animation. The results are fluid and natural in a way animation had never been before.
    As the above video shows, it started with Max’s brother Dave dancing on a roof in a clown costume. Footage of that was then used to model the classic Koko the Clown cartoons, which formed the basis for many Fleischer Studios films. Today, animators still use techniques like rotoscoping to turn real movement into animation.
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  • @Vox
    @Vox  Před 4 lety +1380

    If you want to learn more about early animation, check out this video about the delightfully weird origins of stop motion.
    czcams.com/video/80CKTOjjZFQ/video.html

  • @jddrewes
    @jddrewes Před 4 lety +5505

    "You can patent a device, but you can't patent a dance!"
    -Carlton wants to know your location

    • @LetsTakeWalk
      @LetsTakeWalk Před 4 lety +32

      William Drewes Still true. Also, Carlton’s dance was copied from a dance Bruce Springsteen.

    • @handcoding
      @handcoding Před 4 lety +49

      I know that you’re mostly joshing, but Vox is right-you can’t patent a dance.
      If anything, copyright would be what would apply to dances (including Carlton’s dance), and as that goes, you might check out Legal Eagle’s video “Carlton v. Fortnite - Copyright Dance -Off” for some analysis from a real lawyer about whether dances are copyrightable.
      (Spoiler: It so happens that “simple” dance routines are explicitly not copyrightable. Now you might be asking, “Is Carlton’s dance a ‘simple dance routine’?” Well, that much may be for the courts to decide.)

    • @smallies7154
      @smallies7154 Před 4 lety +3

      send location

    • @RealJoey600
      @RealJoey600 Před 4 lety +16

      You can copyright a dance, it just needs to within a larger sequence of syncopated moves. So instead of a singular move, the whole routine is under copyright

    • @lukerinderknecht2982
      @lukerinderknecht2982 Před 4 lety +17

      He actually said "you can patent a device but you can't patent that". The "that" he was referring to was the "different type of genius" it took to create this, not the dance.

  • @naughtiusmaximus789
    @naughtiusmaximus789 Před 4 lety +11369

    Imagine *Walt Disney* coming up with Rotoscoping, and the patent would've NEVER EXPIRED.

    • @wylnd
      @wylnd Před 4 lety +149

      We have screens now :D

    • @chrismarinohardin9929
      @chrismarinohardin9929 Před 4 lety +458

      Naughtius Maximus you are mixing up copyrights and patents. Disney has lobbied up copyrights forever, not invention patents.

    • @RogerioPereiradaSilva77
      @RogerioPereiradaSilva77 Před 4 lety +643

      @@chrismarinohardin9929 Nope, the OP is right. Both patents and copyrights are different sides of the same coin; one to protect inventions and the other to protect artistic creations, so to speak, but that can all be summed up as intelectual property and we all know very well how Disney tends to treat its IP. Don't forget that copyright also used to expire after a while until Disney started to lobby against it and successfully managed to have legislation changed through bribery, effectively extending it until forever. Disney wouldn't let diabetics get a hold of insulin if it had that patent!!! I shudder to think of a world where Disney has ownership of important inventions of any kind...

    • @ileanabriannemari
      @ileanabriannemari Před 4 lety +180

      @@RogerioPereiradaSilva77 Kinda sad about what Disney is now and what it used to be on the the time Walt was alive.
      Now it's just...remakes and copyright stuff.

    • @iamerror2091
      @iamerror2091 Před 4 lety +67

      I know this is a joke, but Disney isn't exempt from patent expiration. For example, the omnimover created in '67 by Disney, now can be used by anyone since it's patent has expired with parks such as KIng's Island having used the ride system in the past.

  • @amanul_2474
    @amanul_2474 Před 4 lety +980

    Walt Disney: I revolutionised animation!
    Max Fliecsher: Hold my clown...

    • @matrixate
      @matrixate Před 3 lety +5

      You mean, hold on you rat.

    • @ramonsancheztorello7111
      @ramonsancheztorello7111 Před 3 lety +54

      Max Fleischer pioneered the creation of animation techniques.
      Walt Disney pushed and perfected the potential of these and other techniques in animated films.
      Both are capital figures in the history of animation.

    • @Princess_of_cute
      @Princess_of_cute Před 3 lety +5

      @Robert Barry Max wasn't pushed of by Disney. It was wanted that Fleischer tames Betty, what was a fall, as at that point the attention fell. Who would want to see a character that was free as a bird, in the dress of a normal woman doing laundry. It's a shame and I hate Disney for taking all credit.

    • @matthewzakszewski2205
      @matthewzakszewski2205 Před 3 lety +2

      😂😂😂

    • @dejazO0
      @dejazO0 Před 3 lety

      *mcdonald

  • @rachelmcdonough1506
    @rachelmcdonough1506 Před rokem +598

    I miss the old style of animation where literally every object could become anthropomorphic at any moment and then go back to normal and no one cared. What happened to that?

    • @zappers8027
      @zappers8027 Před rokem +7

      You.. didn't cared? as in.. you did not noticed?

    • @pyros6139
      @pyros6139 Před rokem +25

      The Amazing World of Gumball did that a little bit.

    • @RayPointerChannel
      @RayPointerChannel Před rokem +18

      Animation started becoming more literal, lead mostly by Disney's leaning towards naturalism. On of the few times he went back to that was in shorts like Little Toot, SUZIE THE BLUE COUP, and the feature, ALICE IN WONDERLAND.

    • @rachelmcdonough1506
      @rachelmcdonough1506 Před rokem +5

      @@zappers8027 meaning that the characters aren’t amazed by the inanimate objects moving- they just treat it as part of life.

    • @graysonwells21
      @graysonwells21 Před 8 měsíci +1

      Well, unless you can find a creative spin for it, I feel most people would think the bit is a little dated and run dry…

  • @RichardHannay
    @RichardHannay Před 4 lety +5613

    They used rotoscoping in A-Ha’s “Take On Me” music video

    • @davidlizom7556
      @davidlizom7556 Před 4 lety +213

      I wish music videos these days had more creative stuff like that

    • @ChibiNyaNya
      @ChibiNyaNya Před 4 lety +54

      :0 wow I would’ve never guessed!1!1

    • @3rikfreshgeneration349
      @3rikfreshgeneration349 Před 4 lety +27

      What thats cool . i always wonder about that. The first time i got high i watched a-ha "take on me" thanks for the info

    • @nenidetic
      @nenidetic Před 4 lety +78

      I think that's pretty obvious, considering they occasionally turn back into normal people throughout the video

    • @VerdeMorte
      @VerdeMorte Před 4 lety +19

      *AND IT STILL LOOKS AMAZING TODAY*

  • @RobertJRoman
    @RobertJRoman Před 4 lety +9803

    Fleischer cartoons were weird, but great. Their downfall came from two sources. One was that the Fleischer brothers fought as much as the Gallagher brothers of Oasis. The other was that Disney raised the stakes with Snow White, leading the Fleichers to make Gulliver's Travels, which was a studio-killing flop.

    • @PhilEdwardsInc
      @PhilEdwardsInc Před 4 lety +219

      Sounds like you already know the history, but to anyone lurking in the comments, that book by Leslie Cabarga is a great read. It lets you imagine an alternate history for animation (one that would have been deliciously weird). And, of course, it lets you know why it didn't happen.

    • @WillWivellAnimator
      @WillWivellAnimator Před 4 lety +186

      The final nail in the Fleischer coffin: their attempt at a second feature, Mr Bug Goes to Town, had its Christmas release cancelled after Pearl Harbor was attacked and the US entered the Second World War.

    • @MizzKittyBichon
      @MizzKittyBichon Před 4 lety +37

      They really should have highlighted Snow White instead of Gulliver's Travels since it came first and was much more groundbreaking at the time than the latter.

    • @RobertJRoman
      @RobertJRoman Před 4 lety +78

      @@MizzKittyBichon
      Perhaps, but the innovations of the Fleischers began more than a decade earlier.

    • @kymmzej9173
      @kymmzej9173 Před 4 lety +9

      Cartoon history
      Thank you for sharing that with us!

  • @isabellebernard5292
    @isabellebernard5292 Před 2 lety +240

    Speaking as an animator, rotoscoping can be great, but it's important to remember that it quickly ends up looking floaty and weightless. It's best to copy the main poses and look at the breakdown, but amplify the timing and spacing to fit better

    • @Kal-El207
      @Kal-El207 Před rokem +2

      How’d you become an animator?

    • @isabellebernard5292
      @isabellebernard5292 Před rokem +16

      @@Kal-El207 Went to an animation school, The Animation Workshop, and got a degree in Character Animation

    • @emcaco
      @emcaco Před rokem +13

      Yes! You have to note balance changes and ground contact. I'd like to add an example for people reading this: Things like a foot lightly stepping on the ground could be nearly missed in video reference looking at the frame by frame, but in animation you'd often want to exaggerate that contact. By anchoring the foot in place, or showing the shift in balance from heel to toe more obviously. It could take more frames than in the reference, but you compensate with a faster 'spring' from the ground in the rest of the step.

    • @joselkimdelacruz5127
      @joselkimdelacruz5127 Před rokem +2

      Thanks guys. I just tried animation, like a literal amateur using Flipaclip. Will try this.

    • @funsizecandyy
      @funsizecandyy Před 19 dny

      Any works I can see that you were involved in? :D

  • @matthewishunting
    @matthewishunting Před 3 lety +95

    My dad was a rotoscoper for disney 1980-1993. From Tron to Aladdin, we had plenty of frames of in between shots of animation he'd bring home for us to see

  • @duchi882
    @duchi882 Před 4 lety +1855

    *For some reason*
    This made me feel nostalgic of the time when I was not even born

    • @wendel5868
      @wendel5868 Před 4 lety +28

      Duchi There is a name for that, but I cant remember. Its pretty common feeling.

    • @shadowkillz9606
      @shadowkillz9606 Před 4 lety +75

      This feeling is called *Anemoia*

    • @kerzariz8717
      @kerzariz8717 Před 4 lety +8

      I have always wondered what is the term for that.

    • @thanos4959
      @thanos4959 Před 4 lety +3

      Duchi same

    • @rebeccagibbs4128
      @rebeccagibbs4128 Před 4 lety +17

      Ah yes, all the financial depression, segregation, polio and subjugation of women; sounds peachy!

  • @SeeASquaRE
    @SeeASquaRE Před 4 lety +5276

    Rotoscoping is still heavily used for harder sequences that require intricate movement. Like ice-skating or dancing etc. It's a cool technique but is used rarely since principles have evolved in animation that now that can make the job of animating something almost close to realism possible through raw skills and intuition.
    Edit: However even though Rotoscoping is used, it is still hard to do. The movements when traced from an actor will never feel natural and have generally "wonkiness" in their motion, it is usually difficult to account for *every* subtle movements in the human body. So a ton of cleanup work and corrections have to be performed for it to look convincing and in a way still requires a lot of skills as an animator.

    • @akinmytua4680
      @akinmytua4680 Před 4 lety +79

      I think a lot of Yuri on Ice is rotoscoped. (And I love it for it)

    • @hamzahamid2543
      @hamzahamid2543 Před 4 lety +22

      @@akinmytua4680 I instantly thought of Yuri too, so nice scenes!

    • @bbumbs747
      @bbumbs747 Před 4 lety +38

      I would say that though rotoscoping does have it's strengths it also has weaknesses specifically when it comes to the uncanny valley with its movements,but I can't deny that yeah it is still a pretty useful tool,you just have to know when and when not to use it

    • @chingizzhylkybayev8575
      @chingizzhylkybayev8575 Před 4 lety +32

      @@bbumbs747 uncanny valley is strictly about faces. You can simply trace the body movements without tracing the face and you will not have any uncanny effects. The effect came from a weird and uncalled for decision of some animators to trace not only body movements but mimics as well.

    • @hellfish2309
      @hellfish2309 Před 4 lety +4

      Undone on Amazon Prime 👌👌

  • @HAXAD
    @HAXAD Před 3 lety +2658

    Twitter: "Tracing is a crime against the art community!"
    People in the 1900s:

    • @lyraleen1504
      @lyraleen1504 Před 3 lety +472

      Tracing other peoples art its the crime, tracing real people its ok

    • @stxllr4687
      @stxllr4687 Před 3 lety +294

      @@lyraleen1504 exactly. as an artist myself tracing other ppls art is definitely not allowed (espc. if you claim it as your own). but using irl references are recommended because well, what other reference can you use?

    • @lyraleen1504
      @lyraleen1504 Před 3 lety +36

      @@stxllr4687 yeah, when I get my digital pen (I dont remember the name In english) I Will trace real people for training

    • @stxllr4687
      @stxllr4687 Před 3 lety +72

      but to add onto that: maybe instead of tracing real people, try doing something like gesture drawing. you pretty much 'copy' the exact pose, but rather than just directly trace over, you make inferences for form and line and shape.

    • @lyraleen1504
      @lyraleen1504 Před 3 lety +7

      @@stxllr4687 ok, i will try it, thanks

  • @Alkivo
    @Alkivo Před 3 lety +94

    4:28 I find it really wholesome that Cab loved the animation so much he fell to the floor laughing

  • @Jobe-13
    @Jobe-13 Před 4 lety +3708

    I heard rotoscoping freaked people out when it was first used.

    • @Ajourneyofknowing
      @Ajourneyofknowing Před 4 lety +444

      Yubi K. - it is unnatural when the animated movements doesn’t seemed synced up with the character.

    • @Spaghettiboy359
      @Spaghettiboy359 Před 4 lety +321

      Yeah i still find it a little uncanny in some applications

    • @Physeter
      @Physeter Před 4 lety +97

      Uncanny valley :)

    • @Sketchy_Dood
      @Sketchy_Dood Před 4 lety +145

      I mean it looks human but cartoony

    • @cheesyquokka
      @cheesyquokka Před 4 lety +4

      Hmm

  • @TheMgutierrez
    @TheMgutierrez Před 4 lety +610

    I mean with lyrics like
    "She messed around with a bloke named Smokey
    She loved him though was cokey
    He took her down to Chinatown
    And he showed her how to kick the gong around".
    This cartoon is pretty trippy

    • @altheaequatorin1179
      @altheaequatorin1179 Před 4 lety +35

      Michael Gutierrez hideho!

    • @royaldeer87
      @royaldeer87 Před 4 lety +24

      @@altheaequatorin1179 hee Dee he dee

    • @namejeff5849
      @namejeff5849 Před 4 lety +7

      Ho de go de ho de ho!

    • @siddharthiyer7244
      @siddharthiyer7244 Před 4 lety +7

      @@namejeff5849 Hi dee hi dee hi dee hi!

    • @lonewretch
      @lonewretch Před 3 lety +4

      @@siddharthiyer7244 brrrrrrrt. ain't a playa' if he ain't know my WAP.
      how things have changed.

  • @TheAccursedEntity
    @TheAccursedEntity Před 4 lety +166

    I always wondered why old cartoons had better movement than those of the 80's and 90's.

    • @jamonrandomstuff4294
      @jamonrandomstuff4294 Před 2 lety

      Same

    • @fzcbh4698
      @fzcbh4698 Před 2 lety +24

      Actually the 80s & 90s are good but not that great as 30s-50s
      The real disaster decades are the 60s and 70s were 90% of the animations are limited and not traditional.

    • @justsomeguywhoexploreforfu8236
      @justsomeguywhoexploreforfu8236 Před 2 lety +15

      @@fzcbh4698 I think these new animation that are 2020s are worser then 90s 80s or old cartoons.

    • @roxassora2706
      @roxassora2706 Před 2 lety +12

      @@justsomeguywhoexploreforfu8236 That's cause you look at things with rose-tinted glasses.

    • @iniquitouslemon5975
      @iniquitouslemon5975 Před 2 lety

      @@fzcbh4698 Limited can be traditional

  • @cleopatraonlyfans
    @cleopatraonlyfans Před 2 lety +5

    I can’t believe this is how we got the Rotoscope guy from Smiling Friends

  • @KarlBunker
    @KarlBunker Před 4 lety +919

    I love thinking about Cab Calloway laughing hysterically at the animation of himself as a walrus.
    And anyone who hasn't seen Betty Boop Minnie the Moocher should look it up ASAP.

    • @idavis094
      @idavis094 Před 4 lety +13

      I remember watching it in my History of Animation class. It's still one of my favorite Fleischer animations.

    • @antisfoxes
      @antisfoxes Před 3 lety +2

      @@idavis094 OMG YOU'RE SO LUCKY!!

    • @idavis094
      @idavis094 Před 3 lety +4

      @@antisfoxes how am I lucky? It was part of the that college class. We went through a lot of different animators and animations.

    • @wizzelhoart
      @wizzelhoart Před rokem +1

      Big Mouth

  • @NestorCustodio
    @NestorCustodio Před 4 lety +1544

    Oh wow, I had no idea the Fleischers had *invented* the rotoscope. That explains so much about their studio's success when the late 70's cartoon explosion came about.

  • @robynstopped
    @robynstopped Před 2 lety +8

    Cab Calloway is unbelievably influential. Even his dance moves now stand out in 2022 as uniquely his own. Fletcher absolutely picked the perfect dancer to rotoscope.

  • @angelinegerardi9082
    @angelinegerardi9082 Před 4 lety +6

    I’ve done this before, as a short movie for the Academy of Creative Technologies(ACT) with layers in photoshop in ‘01. I as an artist didn’t know the depth of the history of the work I was doing, and you filled that gap. Thank you.

  • @bellibarra
    @bellibarra Před 4 lety +1095

    What I loved about fleischer studios was their absurdity in making cartoons. People are quick to refer to Disney when talking about old animation but fleischer's weird style is what their most likely talking about subconsciously. If people thought disney was weird back then; they we're merely watching a watered down version of fleischer's cartoons.

    • @joshsampson5598
      @joshsampson5598 Před 2 lety +23

      So true, it is so upsetting what happened to fiescher studio, I mean disney great and all but nobody gives enough credit to the Fleicher's cartoons

    • @alzack112
      @alzack112 Před 2 lety +1

      *they're
      *were

    • @StitchXDHD
      @StitchXDHD Před 2 lety +9

      @@alzack112 Congrats, you've corrected a 2 year old comments incorrect use of words! On the internet no less! Truly a hero. /s

    • @hatsunemiku5386
      @hatsunemiku5386 Před 2 lety +1

      @@alzack112 congrats

    • @staringcorgi6475
      @staringcorgi6475 Před 11 měsíci +1

      But disney made superior cartoons and even animated films like fantasia and snow white what did fleisher have to show compared to fantasia mr. Bug goes to town?

  • @sweetbread4190
    @sweetbread4190 Před 4 lety +581

    Finally, Cab Calloway is getting the recognition he deserves !

    • @antisfoxes
      @antisfoxes Před 4 lety

      Exactly!

    • @ratpiss147
      @ratpiss147 Před 3 lety +30

      the character design for King Dice from Cuphead was inspired from Cab Calloway :,)

    • @antisfoxes
      @antisfoxes Před 3 lety

      @@ratpiss147 mhm!

    • @thehunterator520
      @thehunterator520 Před 2 lety +6

      Go watch the blues brothers, he is in that movie

    • @Kal-El207
      @Kal-El207 Před rokem +1

      You just learned about him.

  • @ohrusty
    @ohrusty Před 2 lety +1

    Watching this video was awesome. It's kind of hard to explain to ppl just how groundbreaking this sort of cartoon-making was done. I don't expect future ppl to watch this whole video, either (if I were to recommend it) but it kind of leaves me with butterflies in my stomach. Thanks for making the video.

  • @everberry51
    @everberry51 Před 4 lety +1

    Oooh that’s why I always wondered why backgrounds in old cartoons looked so realistic! Awesome!

  • @bruh-lg6ch
    @bruh-lg6ch Před 4 lety +712

    2:22 look at this poor clown, he lost one of his AirPods

  • @gtabro1337
    @gtabro1337 Před 4 lety +534

    Thanks to Ghostemane - Mercury the interest in this animation resurfaced for a while

    • @johnathanmiranda9065
      @johnathanmiranda9065 Před 4 lety +8

      gtabro1337 they didn’t start it

    • @shadowrealmcitizen1149
      @shadowrealmcitizen1149 Před 4 lety +60

      Agree. I instantly recognized the dance when I saw the thumbnail. Even played the music in my mind for seconds lol.

    • @Coal-RubL
      @Coal-RubL Před 4 lety +3

      gtabro1337 this is also used in the reverb of "kid kudi" by playboi carti

    • @nxxdle_
      @nxxdle_ Před 4 lety +5

      elder reid ya because the creator of that was most likely inspired by mercury by ghostemane

    • @Coal-RubL
      @Coal-RubL Před 4 lety +3

      Needle_Man no his came before ghostemane's... other way around

  • @fetusdeletus9266
    @fetusdeletus9266 Před 3 lety +4

    I now want to found a movement in the world of filmmaking where we go back to the old ways and make these really weird but oddly beautiful cartoons with flowing animation that blurs and focuses the line between actual footage and animation in the best ways possible

  • @MillennialMcGuyver
    @MillennialMcGuyver Před 4 lety +6

    So Max Fleischer pre-dates Disney’s depth camera?! This is all amazing to me. So much freaking talent...

  • @ajshim
    @ajshim Před 4 lety +104

    Don't forget without Rotoscoping lightsabers in Star Wars would still be sticks that actors are trying to avoid as if they were threatening.

  • @nicholas_scott
    @nicholas_scott Před 4 lety +363

    Snow White used rotoscoping long before the patent expires. Though Disney and fleichter did work together on some projects

    • @blossomingbeelzebub
      @blossomingbeelzebub Před 4 lety +35

      I dont believe they did actually! I think they filmed an actress doing Snow Whites actions in full costume, but only used it as reference. They didnt actually rotoscope the images.

    • @JainaSoloB312
      @JainaSoloB312 Před 4 lety +26

      @RyanLaVoisin I can't speak to Snow White, but I know they didn't rotoscope for Sleeping Beauty about 20 years later, they just used the live performances as reference.
      Aurora dipping her toes into the water, dancing, and even Prince Philip battling the great dragon-form Maleficent were all performed by the actors on set to use as reference for the animators, there's even a very limited amount of footage of these

    • @kin2naruto
      @kin2naruto Před 4 lety +4

      No, they used refrence video and prints of the still photos behind a lightbox. There is still copies of the refrence videos you can compaire - and its not exact. Rotoscoping has a very reconizable... jitter to it. Even modern computer rotoscoping can still have problems with jitter.

    • @ramonsancheztorello7111
      @ramonsancheztorello7111 Před 3 lety +2

      The patent for the rotoscope expired in 1934, the same year that Snow White's production started. In fact, Max Fleischer upon learning that Disney was using the rotoscope tried to sue him for patent infringement, but finally didn't do so because he realized that the patent expired in 1934, and the technique was already in public use.
      And neither Fleischer nor Disney worked together on any projects, with the exception of the live-action film 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea, directed by Richard Fleischer (Max Fleischer's son).

    • @Atombender
      @Atombender Před 3 lety +1

      @@ramonsancheztorello7111 Snow White was made in 1933.

  • @Destin5258
    @Destin5258 Před 4 lety +1

    So animation started with motion capture, and now we have finally come full circle. Amazing.

  • @chb2005
    @chb2005 Před 4 lety

    Love the Vox Almanac series. Keep them going!

  • @tested2032
    @tested2032 Před 4 lety +178

    So that’s how they made the Chika dance look so good

    • @LetsTakeWalk
      @LetsTakeWalk Před 4 lety +21

      Test ED Fun fact, the Chika dance was NOT rotoscoped.

    • @AldoLop
      @AldoLop Před 4 lety +11

      Awesome! , didn't know someone else watched Chika dance and Vox

    • @paipepaipe9565
      @paipepaipe9565 Před 4 lety +33

      Wait no, my bad, it was rotoscoped, confirmed by the show director

    • @kawakiuzumaki8166
      @kawakiuzumaki8166 Před 4 lety +5

      man of culture

    • @ali99_82
      @ali99_82 Před 4 lety

      Madlad

  • @melchizedekpsj
    @melchizedekpsj Před 4 lety +115

    Yes, the animation of Fujiwara Chika from the ending of Kaguya-sama: Love is War was also achieved through rotoscoping. Thanks a lot for the video!

  • @ruiqiumai323
    @ruiqiumai323 Před 4 lety +5

    Always good to see Cab Calloway and Koko being brought up. I didn’t find out about them until this year even though they’re a part of entertainment history.

  • @captainthrall
    @captainthrall Před 3 lety +2

    What an amazing video. It was informative, in-depth, interesting, and entertaining. Honestly I just wanted to know what rotoscoping was exactly. I wasn't expecting a quick 5 minute video to have such a dramatic impact, but for the rest of my life I'll never forget what you taught me about rotoscoping, Cab Calloway, and Fleischer Studios.
    You guys really knocked this one out of the park. Well done. Thank you!

  • @shanekimberlin
    @shanekimberlin Před 4 lety +29

    Phil Edwards, the work you do for Vox is absolutely wonderful. It inspires me, and most, most likely, many others to look at the world a little differently and try something new. Thank you.

  • @thevfxmancolorizationvfxex4051

    The Rotoscoping effects on Lord Of The Rings scared me when I was younger. Those Orcs looked like they could be from a Black Metal band

    • @Coal-RubL
      @Coal-RubL Před 4 lety +1

      The Colorization Channel RIGHT?!?! Im honestly shocked that so many people know what you are talking about. I love love love that film so much.

    • @post-leftluddite
      @post-leftluddite Před 4 lety +5

      Ralph Bakshi's work has been a love of mine since I first saw Wizards when I was 5 years old (1989)..after that I sought out his entire catalog and to this day, I own The Lord of the Rings, Wizards, Fire and Ice, American Pop, etc on VHS

    • @thevfxmancolorizationvfxex4051
      @thevfxmancolorizationvfxex4051 Před 4 lety

      @@post-leftluddite I honestly think that American Pop is my favourite Ralph Bakshi film

    • @WZRD095
      @WZRD095 Před 4 lety +3

      Let’s not forget the ring wraith midnight hit men murder scene with realistic stabbing sounds. Sweet dreams, 7 year old me.

    • @videojeff01
      @videojeff01 Před 3 lety

      Me too. I love Wizards and Fire and Ice! Some of my favorite films.

  • @laylover7621
    @laylover7621 Před 4 lety

    I love Vox editing, seriously. Great videos guys.

  • @nandwani88
    @nandwani88 Před 4 lety

    Yo! This video just brought back so many things I learnt in my History of Animation class at the UofL in Lethbridge! Took it as a blow off class and had no idea so much still stuck with me. Nice!

  • @casir.7407
    @casir.7407 Před 4 lety +27

    god i love this so much.... i love that this is now becoming more popular and well known. also cab calloway had some amazing songs.
    id love for you guys to tackle lotte reiniger, master of shadow animation, one of my favorite animators and one of the first animation film directors (who, yes, directed a fully animated feature film before disney came with snow white). she and his husband have a fascinating history, from rubbing elbows with berthold brecht and fritz lang while in germany, to working in italy with the most respected italian directors at the time.
    (also she used multiplane cameras even before these guys, so)

  • @marco.nascimento
    @marco.nascimento Před 4 lety +3

    amazing, those Cab Calloway animations are incredible

  • @TheGodOfPettines
    @TheGodOfPettines Před rokem +2

    I wonder how proud these people would be of modern day animators
    Cause like a majority of us don’t do this anymore well people who don’t rotoscope we have to come sit in our head and I wonder how impressed I would be by that

  • @Shinjo_Ms
    @Shinjo_Ms Před 4 lety +5

    I'd love to see you guys approach documenting the video games evolution or their own narrative, animation, planning, programming or visual art progress through the years or on certain games that changed history.
    Great content guys! One of my top 5 favorite CZcams channels

  • @PinkPopcorn999
    @PinkPopcorn999 Před 4 lety +29

    It would be interesting to learn about the animation outsourcing industry. Many people don't know that their favorite cartoons were animated in the Philippines, Korea, India, etc.
    The Philippine animation industry beginnings are really interesting! It would be great to have Vox cover this.

  • @tibormalinsky8751
    @tibormalinsky8751 Před 4 lety

    The animations where everything talks or just beahve weirdly are amazing. I love ‘em.

  • @yash05195495
    @yash05195495 Před 4 lety

    It’s so amazing to see the change in technology so fast!

  • @jasonbarraza3553
    @jasonbarraza3553 Před 4 lety +21

    I could definitely see people being either unsettled or wonderfully intrigued by this when it first came out. Its like all of a sudden, drawings were moving like they were alive and it must’ve had a sort of uncanny valley feeling at first, still kind of does. Its sort of like how it seems a little odd or impressively alarming seeing those boston dynamics robots being able to do parkour and do perfect backflips and stuff. It seems a little too real for comfort for a lot of people.

    • @hellatina
      @hellatina Před rokem

      I was thinking exactly the same. Two years later!!!

  • @dogood8661
    @dogood8661 Před 4 lety +5

    Each video of Vox is a masterpiece. An absolute joy to see and hear ♥️♥️♥️

  • @WVgirl1959
    @WVgirl1959 Před rokem

    I loved that you showed how they did it. Very interesting!❤️

  • @merakkin
    @merakkin Před 4 lety

    I love so much this cartoon where Koko becames the ghost and sings St James infirmary, it's just so well done and beautiful

  • @16o6oo
    @16o6oo Před 4 lety +9

    taking a summer animation class in a couple months and vox rlly be hyping it up for me even more w all these videos aaaa!! ❤️❤️❤️

  • @DinoWinoSaur
    @DinoWinoSaur Před 4 lety +4

    Amazing storytelling and production. Thank you Vox.

  • @AdamFerrari64
    @AdamFerrari64 Před 4 lety +3

    Max Fleischer’s Rotoscope invention and his stereoptical 3D process were AMAZING for early animation!

    • @RayPointerChannel
      @RayPointerChannel Před rokem +1

      That's not all that Max invented. He had a early form of Aerial Image compositing in 1924 where the animation was photographed frame by frame over projected live action. That was the Rotograph.

  • @sledzeppelin
    @sledzeppelin Před 2 lety +1

    That Betty Boop short has so many bizarre ideas that were so great they would later become tropes. Absolutely brilliant.

  • @AimShootDevelop
    @AimShootDevelop Před 4 lety +3

    I’ve been incorporating this into my work and it’s stepped it up 10x !

  • @imjody
    @imjody Před 4 lety +5

    Very interesting stuff. Thanks for this, Vox!

  • @katamekothriis1613
    @katamekothriis1613 Před rokem

    I absolutely love the style of the Fleischer cartoons, it was amazing even seeing the style adapted into a video game when Cuphead came out. I think my favorite will always be the Betty Boop as Snow White cartoon with Koko singing Cab Calloway's "St James Infirmary Blues" not just because of the dancing and singing, but because of how if you look at the background you'll see different imagery reflecting the lyrics as they're sung!

  • @sandyg.8318
    @sandyg.8318 Před 4 lety

    I love rotoscoping in animation. When done right it’s beautiful.

  • @natesmith3949
    @natesmith3949 Před 4 lety +7

    Rotoscoping is a valuable tool in any animators arsenal but it tends to put characters in the uncanny valley, meaning it has that creepy effect of being almost life-like but not quite. The real breakthrough came from the 12 principles developed by Disney animators in the 30’s and 40’s and described in detail by Ollie Johnston and Frank Thomas in their book, The Illusion of Life.

  • @dragonskunkstudio7582
    @dragonskunkstudio7582 Před 4 lety +61

    I wanted a reference on how to go from sitting on the ground to standing up. I found a video and rotoscoped it, sort of. The problem with rotoscoping, you risk entering the motion version of the uncanny valley. Since I'm using a 3D model I tend to have the video in the scene next to the actor instead of directly over. That way it is still manual animation driving the character.

  • @sm00thgames63
    @sm00thgames63 Před rokem

    Amazing that so much animiation is still made guessing what real movement looks like instead of tracing it directly from a real source.

  • @FantasticFanatique
    @FantasticFanatique Před 4 lety

    I love how dedicated they were, even if it seems unconventional

  • @altheaequatorin1179
    @altheaequatorin1179 Před 4 lety +5

    cab calloway is such a legend.

  • @arcang2102
    @arcang2102 Před 2 lety +5

    "You can patent device,but you can't patent That!" Cab Caloways super- stylish-swag,was pricelessly- timeless!He took the bland standard, dry stiffness,out of Max Fleischers creative mechanical clever animation!Amongst others who Bit-n-Rippd his 1 of a kind class-act,"Birth of Cool",Be-Bop Hip figurative,origin of Original "RagTime" smooth moves!In the Real 20's Cab was "The Man"he put everybody on The Map!"Heide, Heidi,Heide-Ho!"Along with The only Chick, that was too Cool for School,was Betty-Boop!"Boo- Boopy-Doop" (Cold-Dope download)Thanx!!

  • @lanolinlight
    @lanolinlight Před 2 lety +1

    I feel so ancient watching a formerly commonly known practice like rotoscoping (seen in the original Star Wars laserblasts, Tron, Ralph Bakshi films, etc) discussed like some rare archaeological find.

  • @roobindebbarma2957
    @roobindebbarma2957 Před 3 lety +5

    0:26 that groovy music..

  • @OlafLesniak
    @OlafLesniak Před 4 lety +51

    Vox: You can patent devices, but you can't patent dance moves.
    Floss Kid: Hi

    • @cassanateli
      @cassanateli Před 4 lety +1

      Olaf Lesniak He didn’t Patent it though..?

    • @DaP84
      @DaP84 Před 4 lety +4

      His greedy mom wanted to. The mooves were even done by a bunch of people, some CZcamsrs, years earlier.

    • @Bakedcakeyyy
      @Bakedcakeyyy Před 4 lety

      I don’t think you can patent or copyright INDIVIDUAL dance moves but you can do so for full choreographies as it is considered an art form
      I think that was why it didn’t go through

    • @hermeticallysealed1
      @hermeticallysealed1 Před 4 lety

      You realize that this was all back 80 years or so ago. No, back then, you wouldn't be able to.

    • @goodmaro
      @goodmaro Před 4 lety

      @@Bakedcakeyyy No, that would be matter for copyright. Theoretically a dance move could be patented, because methods of doing things are indeed patentable. It's just that it would be very hard to prove novelty and utility of a dance move -- and you couldn't get a design patent for a dance move, only a utility patent.

  • @caise3910
    @caise3910 Před 4 lety +123

    oh, this is definitely cool beans.

  • @SWonYT
    @SWonYT Před 4 lety

    I love that video! It's actually amazing to learn more about it.

  • @timewarpambience1956
    @timewarpambience1956 Před 2 lety +1

    This is so amazing, I never knew this!!!

  • @DCeeMusik
    @DCeeMusik Před 4 lety +13

    I always loved the Fleischer's style of animation. To me, it was the precursor to motion capture. Who would've thought this little studio in New York would be the innovator for Hollywood in the future. Disney wouldn't have pushed for more innovation it wasn't for Fleischer Studios.

  • @arthoe5885
    @arthoe5885 Před 4 lety +3

    the dancing walrus literally looks terrifying I wish I never saw that abomination

  • @ulischmidt03
    @ulischmidt03 Před 3 lety +1

    i find that kind of motion very nostalgic, and i’d really like it if modern 2d animations were to dabble in that rotoscoping style again.

  • @mikkey246
    @mikkey246 Před rokem

    This was so interesting, beautiful editing

  • @thahdeepseadivuh7501
    @thahdeepseadivuh7501 Před 4 lety +16

    The movie Waking Life is a great example of this.

  • @timsullivan4566
    @timsullivan4566 Před 4 lety +3

    Producers for celluloid debut of "The Fantastic Four" initially thought Rex Reed's super-stretchiness could best be created with a technique combining Motion-capture with Rotoscoping, but eventually were forced to abandon this approach after failing to secure for their modeling process any real-life footage of human limb spaghettification.

  • @RegalCandy
    @RegalCandy Před 4 lety

    I love the movement. It’s mesmerizing

  • @x4virom
    @x4virom Před 3 lety

    Really well explained, and I love Rotoscope

  • @christopherjaigopaul3896
    @christopherjaigopaul3896 Před 4 lety +3

    I found this page today I learned something today

  • @GlassheartRecords
    @GlassheartRecords Před 4 lety +17

    If you haven't seen the Fleischer Superman films, you are doing yourself an incredible disservice.
    Also if you get the chance, check out KaptainKristian's video essay that goes over those films a ton, it's a great video from an underrated CZcamsr.

  • @S4NSE
    @S4NSE Před 4 lety

    I loved the moves of that ghost and was wondering why it's so groooovy, that explains alot

  • @ardendarling5613
    @ardendarling5613 Před 3 lety

    I was about to say that you were underselling animation by tying its success so heavily to rotoscoping, but you seemed to have made up for it with that ending. Good work!

  • @n1ck2k
    @n1ck2k Před 4 lety +3

    You forget what pioneers these guys really were sometimes .

  • @stroopwafelfalafel
    @stroopwafelfalafel Před 3 lety +35

    Internet artists: Noooo! You can’t just learn about movement and anatomy from other people! That’s pose theft! Delete your account or I’ll report you noooOOO!
    Golden age animators:

    • @animatorireenie8319
      @animatorireenie8319 Před 3 lety +7

      I'm an artist too and believe me, it annoys me a lot. I'll use rotoscoping as inspiration anyways.

    • @Paramore_your_Decode
      @Paramore_your_Decode Před 3 lety

      Are you talking about twitter?

    • @cookieoreouwu2521
      @cookieoreouwu2521 Před 2 lety

      So basically Disney when they 2D animated, they didnt draw stuff by theirselves, they just traced??

  • @edoardogennarini8274
    @edoardogennarini8274 Před 2 lety

    Simply great, great video. Thank you

  • @robfriedrich2822
    @robfriedrich2822 Před 2 lety +2

    3:30 Disney tried to sell this process as something he developed.
    But the German Fischerkoesen Cartoon Wheatherbeaten Melody has also the use of multiplan camera

  • @justarandomguy3237
    @justarandomguy3237 Před 4 lety +3

    The dancing ghost and the old-man of the mountain was very creepy for me

  • @kev1nruiz
    @kev1nruiz Před 4 lety +4

    Anyone else think that walrus in the beginning is unsettling?

    • @skystation7969
      @skystation7969 Před 4 lety +1

      I think the guy narrating this video is unsettling. He is clearly acting as an entertainer more than a humble teacher or informant. I'd love to rotoscope his hand-gestures. Furthermore, the piece is peppered with sensational tripe such as: when filming Dave on the rooftop, the sheet with the wind, almost blew him off the rooftop. There is better truth in the most basic books on animation written decades ago by those who were closer to the remnants of those who actually worked with this process. Leave the squeaky clean effects of time alone and stick to the fact. They're more boring.

  • @ryanfitzgerald9833
    @ryanfitzgerald9833 Před 8 měsíci

    that takes me back to the blues brothers where the same song was performed in a fashion every bit as iconic by calloway. the final echo so far of this animation nearly a century ago.

  • @Fs-zo8ws
    @Fs-zo8ws Před 4 lety

    Nice reminder that even the ol' good animations started stiff at some point but got better over time =3

  • @streetsahed
    @streetsahed Před 4 lety +16

    great video but i'm kinda bummed y'all didn't bring up one of the most iconic animators who used this technique; Ralph Bakshi

    • @Johnlindsey289
      @Johnlindsey289 Před 2 lety

      Even heavy metal, Jessica rabbit and undone too

  • @cathy9423
    @cathy9423 Před 4 lety +4

    Okay, for outstanding animation. You HAVE talk about “The Thief and the Cobbler”.

  • @HonARGUru
    @HonARGUru Před 4 lety +2

    And honestly, having contributed to the method behind Star Wars' lightsaber effect has been another magnificent addition to pop culture media as a whole

  • @jazzadieu
    @jazzadieu Před 4 lety

    The animation looks so clean

  • @MrJamesdryable
    @MrJamesdryable Před 4 lety +19

    GHOSTEMANE - Mercury

  • @masterimbecile
    @masterimbecile Před 4 lety +18

    When Cab Calloway saw his dance animated, he rofl'ed.

  • @silvesterlowellimageek2140

    I love how Walt Disney did his work .I know that others did cartoons frist ,but never knew who did until now this is amazing.

  • @WilmMyburgh
    @WilmMyburgh Před 4 lety

    Fascinating, thanks for sharing!