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Poison Types in Competitive Pokemon.
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- čas přidán 8. 08. 2024
- Competitive Singles has seen many different Poison types throughout the years.
Poison started off as one of the absolute worst Types in the game, but over the years it gained more and more advantages.
In Gen 6 Poison would truly have it's day. With the new Fairy type introduced, Poison now resisted AND dealt Super Effective Damage to Fairy types.
This is sane. Let's explore Poison types throughout the years.
0:00 Intro
1:05 Gen 1
3:54 Gen 2
6:52 Gen 3
14:42 Gen 4
17:46 Gen 5
21:40 Gen 6
23:35 Gen 7
26:31 Gen 8
29:33 Gen 9
The Horse Council is ignoring the fact that Smeargle can also learn the move Transform, meaning that it can in fact transform into a proper horse like Magcargo or Snorlax.
Michael cargo
Smeargle has more reason to be on the Horse Council than Horsea does, and Horsea has "horse" in its name!
Ariados**
This means that Ditto and Mew are honorary horses as well, right?
This comment is legendary 😂❤
Poison types day 1 - :(
Poison types post toxic spikes :|
Poison types post dream world :)
Poison types post fairy type >:)
Alakazam: How the heck did this happen?! You used to be weak!
@@michaelrupert8836poison types: anyway *knocks him off*
Well well, how the turntables.
I would like to add another buff of the Poison type, which is Toxic being made 100% accurate when used by a Poison type starting in gen VI. Also a bit of a sidenote Nidoking and Venusaur don't use Sludge Bomb in Gen II because they do not learn it yet for some reason.
And Toxic being able to hit semi-invulnerable targets too, so using Fly or whatever won't save you
I always forget about that. I think it's because it doesn't actually give it 100% accuracy, I think it just removes the accuracy check like No Guard does. @@MaahirMomtaz12
I remember being so mad I couldn't teach my Nidoking sludge bomb back when I first played Gen II bc that was the best STAB move it could get at that point. Moral of the story: Gen I and II learnsets were garbage
@@Pak34613 Yeah it bypasses accuracy
Smeargle's beret gives away the fact that he is actually a French Pokemon trying to infiltrate the Horse Council on behalf of Linoone and the rest of the French Legionaires.
Poison used to hit bug super effectively too in gen 1, but bug was so bad back then that everyone forgets that.
And bug used to hit poison super effectively. But again, bug was just a horrible type altogether in Gen 1
Shoutout to Paras for having 3 double weakne in RBY.
Now, poison type is viable!
Mfers when Venusaur is 4x weak to Leech Life :(
@@themastuhkbmBug hitting poison for SE damage was actually very impactful in playthroughs because it allowed Jolteon with Pin Missile to destroy every grass type in the game since almost every grass type bar tangela was also poison or psychic meaning that Tangela was the only grass type that didnt take 4x damage from Jolteon's pin missile
Been going through an awful bit of depression but I saw this notification and my day got so much brighter. Thanks for all you do, Jimothy.
Jimothy bool always come to shine a light in these dark days
Hang in there and keep up the good fight ❤
Fr
Sweet! And good luck! I think you have a lot to be happy about. Just take a deep breath and think
This all started with horsea getting in. I even said at the time that this would cause a slippery slope and next thing you know Ditto and smeargal would want to be in the horse council too. Our values and traditions have really gone downhill.
Indeed, there are only 7 proper fully evolved horse Pokemon, as well as Mudbray, Blitzle, and both forms of Ponyta. I suppose there is a valid argument for Ditto and Mew, but Magcargo and Horsea being included is utter nonsense.
I'm just here to say my Iron Mugulis arrived safely
Weezing Wednesday and Muk Monday thank you for your support.
the fart rock and the pile of shit 🥰
How dare you forget about Swalot Sunday
Tentacruel Tuesday
The video just came out for my lunchtime, this is incredible folks.
This has become my comfort channel, despite the fact that I'm not as interested in competitive Pokemon as i used to be. Something about dear Jimothy's voice, humour and phraseology scratches my brain in just the right way
I so agree! It's my staple channel for when I eat or go to sleep :) Despite not playing competitive Pokémon since Netbattle, lol!
Poison’s my favorite Type, both biologically clever and insanely punk. We had to wait nearly 20 years to have an offensive presence but it was worth the wait, thank you Fairy :)
what are you, roxie from gen 5?
Roxie is the best
Muk came in and said "not on my mondays" to the fairy types
I’ve always thought that poison should be super effective on water because of pollution and whatnot. I think from a design perspective it would also help balance out bulky water types a bit.
It also doesn’t make sense for grass to be weak to poison imo.
I feel poison should be super effective to water, Grass, Flying, Fairy types. Sense pollution and hurting nature
The Horse Council saga is the best thing I've ever seen. I literally tune in for updates on Horse drama. It's insane, folks.
Poison might just be the most improved pokémon type in the series.
This type started off terribly
This type started off terribly
With horrible weaknesses to Psychic and Ground
which were extremely common in the early generations
Poison started out as potent as a Warheads sour candy, it was only up from there.
I guess it makes sense that it took the toxins a moment to settle in…
Water Poison is such a great defensive typing. The 3 weaknesses are Electric, Ground, Psychic which all have immunities such as Lando who is immune to two of them
My favorite poison type is probably Nidoking. The visual design is classic and I love that they gave him Sheer Force to really make use of his vast offensive movepool to hit really hard on various sides of the typing spectrum.
I love Poison types. Venusaur, Gengar, Nidoqueen, Nidoking, Crobat, Swalot are all some of my favorite pokemon
We have a Swalot fan folks.
what's the name of Swalot's pre-evolution? i always forget
@@tibeerius3656 I think you can look it up on Serebii
@@tibeerius3656 Gulpin (hopefully I didn't fall for a joke).
Crobat is a weapon hey!
I always run one, in a playthrough.
smeargle is a known criminal and has leveraged his infamous sketchy attitude to get exactly what he desires. magcargo is a hardworking honest lava snail who simply happens to share traits with his horse brethren. i think you know where to draw the line, jimothius coolant.
came out of a depressive slump to see jimothy cool cover the history of my favourite typing. very sludgetacular
I love getting my Jimothy uploads in the evening
So, something that you got incorrect in the video is about Victreebel and Venusaur's roles in RBY. Victreebel almost never runs swords dance anymore due to its main moves being Wrap, Sleep Powder, and Razor Leaf. If your 4th moveslot is Swords Dance, none of those moves benefit from a +2 attack boost (I guess you can get slightly more damage with Wrap). Overall, Swords Dance is kind of a wasted move on Victreebel.
On the other hand, Venusaur can use its superior bulk + Sleep Powder to set up a Swords Dance. Venusaur uses Sleep Powder, Swords Dance, Razor Leaf, and Hyperbeam. Razor Leaf can actually force Snorlax into a rest loop, which gives Venusaur a chance to set up Swords Dance. They actually have very disctinct roles in the current metagame.
Immediate like for being the first CZcamsr I've ever heard pronounce "Nihilego" correctly
Jimothy has blessed us today with another great upload
VICTREEBEL IS BACK TO OU?? WHAT??? THAT'S HUGE!!!!
Smeargle is about to cast a Dark Void in the near future.
Poison is my favorite type, but Gen 1 is my favorite meta. Life is cruel.
Great video, but… I’m not sure why… I feel ill… (checks foot, sees toxic spike sticking out of it) oh no… (faints)
So glad these videos have continued. Although now I have a big backlog of Jimothy content to watch, which is not a bad thing 😊
Jim, what are your thoughts on the controversial addition of staryu into the galactic group holding such pokemon as minior, solrock, lunatone, and cosmoem?
I love your intros so much and the various arcs they have gone through
Preposterous to propose that poison types were prosperous in previous periods
Gen 5 toxicroak confirmed french
I have a lot of nostalgia for poison types, the Bulbasaur line being my favorite.
Toxic always gave me so much anxiety playing gen 1 as a child.
Oh I’ve been awaiting this one! The poison type, I think, has a very interesting history in pokemon. It went from being simply a detriment to being a below-par defensive type that happens to be a counter to the best type in the game. Excited to sit down with lunch and watch this one!
I thoroughly enjoy these analysis videos
Poison might just be the most improved pokemon type in the series
Another little thing that was unfortunate about Poison in Gen1 was that Toxic didn't work properly back then. It had the same effect as we know it, but if you switched out, it got down graded to regular Poison. So even the basic value of switching into Toxic barely comes up back then, since Toxic wasn't a good move at the time
Oh shit didn’t realize victreebel was back in OU in gen 1, thought people weren’t really feeling it anymore
I particularly love Reverend's description of Weezing in Gen 1: "I think it's pretty underrated. You can switch into Tauros, and...Explode. It's like if Golem was...even worse...and that's pretty good👍"
Poison type has come a long way
It went from possibly the most detrimental type in Pokemon history to being a rather competent type.
Though, I do wonder why they chose to make steel completely immune to poison.
Because metal is completely inorganic and is also generally nonporous. Not sure why Rock isn't also immune to Poison, though.
@@JanusHoW Kinda wish acid was super effective against steel, though.
They feared the might of Qwilfish and had to balance their naval toxic wrath.
@@CoralReaper707 corrosion should act like a poison version of scrappy
I like the Steel immunity to poison. BUT I reckon there should be a signature move, only learned by the pure toxic poison types, like Weezing and Muk, perhaps called Corrosion that actually hits Steel type.
It’s actually technically divergent evolution, but that’s neither here nor there. Alolan muk is awesome no matter what
i think asking someone what they think about poison as a type is a good litmus test for whether or not they know what they're talking about at all
also, shoutouts to dragalge. love that guy in lower tiers
Some people have questioned what impact this ruling by the Horse Tribunal will have on Magcargo and its place on the Horse Council. Those people neglect to consider the differentiating factors between the two cases. You see, Smeargle learns High Horsepower through artificial means by using the move Sketch, whereas Magcargo learns the move naturally with the aid of a Technical Machine. Any calls to revoke Magcargo's rights based on this ruling would be premature.
What an informative video! Thank you again Mr. Cool for the consistent content. Truly you are ushering a new light into the Pokemon world. However once again I must come to you on behalf of the F.E.A our leader Raichu's suffering has been ignored for too long. Please help up and spread the word of his suffered injustices for the sake of all forgotten evolutions, thank you.
The drama from the horse council is better than days of our lives
Thank you for covering my favorite type!
Fun fact: Poison type Pokemon are poisonous.
No way Muk Monday on a Thursday. I'm so happy about this information
Would the Horse Council allow Mew in since Mew has the DNA of all pokemon????
Outstanding analysis
hello jimothy just pointing out that toxic poison doesnt actually double in damage every turn it just increases linearly. this is very important to me because me and 3 other people i was flatting with a couple of years ago all thought it doubled and all had our worldviews shattered after learning this wasnt the case all at the same time one day
The shortest one so far
I think that focusing on Magcargo's inclusion in the horse council made us overlook the position of the serpentine trio of Onix, Orthworm and Zygarde in it. Snails, biologically speaking, do have a foot, so Magcargo is 1/4 of its way towards a horse, while these three are completely limbless and therefore don't resemble a horse in any way.
Smeargle will be able to help Magcargo rally more supporters to defeat the Old Money backed Horsea
horse power thing has grown in such lore now its like series im awaiting to see in every video
Poison and ghost are my favourite types. Thanks for this video.
Have you tried the sleeptalk+whirlwind set on crobat in gen 3? Of course niche, but can work really nicely on a spikes team, and you need to have crobat put to sleep.
Venusaur is one of my favorite leads. I tend to run Growth when it’s not usually worth it, but getting that early sleep and being able to stick around to tank fighting moves and block Leech Seed is pretty nice
Weezing was the very first Pokémon I ever saw when I was a child. A cool fellow
Jimothy, do you know about PS China, the chinese version of smogon? The RMTs from there are pretty wild, doubly so if machine translated lmao
I was a poison lover from day ONE and I want credit for being incredibly big brained and correct at all times
Hello Jimothy. Toxic does not double in damage every turn. The formula is n/16th of a Pokémon’s health each turn, where n is how many turns the poison has gone off.
Weezing can wall cloyster in Gen 1
Jimothy: And Amoongus, ranked in RU in Gen 5-
Me: Are people stupid?
Jimothy:-because sleep is banned in Gen 5.
Me: Ah, yes they are.
Smeargle will have to call his fellow horses Entei, Suicune and Raikou to help him
Happy Muk Monday!
One thing I'm curious about is why do so many pokemon prefer Thunder to Tbolt in gen 2.
No mention of Salazzle, Skuntank or Drapion :(
A friend and I did a draft league where we won the season, dubbing the team “The Horses in the Back” our main horse was Mudsdale and Houndoom. We are extremely invested how the Horse Council handles this smergle debate because it will dictate how our future is handeled. With transform it can look like a horse, and if it looks like a horse, it might indeed be a horse.
Wait, I thought RBY Victreebel was actually failing to find traction in lower tiers since being demoted from OU a few years ago, and was perhaps destined for PU or the like? If it's really coming back to OU, that journey would make for an interesting video.
Hello jimntothy what is your least favorite species of rodent ?
36:00 muk be lifting up that middle finger for those that try to knock off its item
channel lore aside, i use venusaur quite often on the rby ladder and even in some games between friends, and it's actually not the worst thing you could use. it has a better opportunity to use swords dance due to having more bull than victreebel and restlooping reflectlax while surviving one (1) psychic from alakazam. you really wanna get rid of mons like gengar and zapdos first before letting it cleave through opposing teams, so bring support like starmie to help it out.
I like Using Wheezing, I just think of it as a Floating Demon Head Warlock Pet from World of Warcraft. 10/10 Still use in Gen 9 even just for fun
Every time i run into a poison in random battles, I always know it's going to be messy if I don't have ground moves (because let's be honest, at this point, psychic is almost an afterthought) I know I'm in for a hard time.
Now if GF only gave Gengar levitate again....(Even as a HA)
Favorite poison type? Garbodor for life!
It's Tentacruel Thurasday my friends
I will always love my purple people.
poison was always my favorite type we been playing the long con
Favorit Poison Typ Pokemon for me are Roserade and Crobat. (Gengar and Nidoking close behind)
But it feels like there are less and less new ones. Where are my early game poison types in the new gens?
What Types would make some sort of sense, to receive 2x damage from poison?
Water?
favorite poison type?
i don't have time to answer silly questions when i'm doing the mochi dance.
Do not mess with an artist and his ambition to shape his creativity into reality. 🎨 The High Horse Council will be wise to remember this. 🐴
Poison’s the kind of type that I wouldn’t immediately say was my favourite if you asked me, but the more I think about it the more I realise that a bunch of my favourites just happen to be poison type - toxicroak, drapion, crobat, dragalge, the nidos, toxicricity, mega beedrill and more besides. I don’t know what it is exactly but there’s something about the poison type that lends itself to thematic and flavourful pokemon design.
Poison is crazy diverse, from IRL toxic creatures to hazardous waste and deadly compounds! They take such great advantage of that diversity, if you look at Gen 9’s additions for example you’ll notice they all use new takes on Poison! Paint, car fuel, and asbestos!
We need Onix in the council with his high horsepower 🐎🪨🐍
I believe @bluebaron6811 has used Weezing in Gen 1 before at the OU level, so I'll paraphrase - it gets Fire Blast to burn Tauros and Snorlax, as well as Sludge to hit physically frail Alakazams and Chansey on the switch. But really, the best thing to do with Weezing is switch it in on a Hyper Beam and explode.
Wait did I miss Smeargle ark?
I really love your sense of humour, every time I listen to your videos I just have a big smile on my face the entire time 🩷
I believe it would be "divergent". A convergent form would imply that two pokemon species had evolved into the same species.
It's too bad we don't have a poison type that starts with 'F.' Otherwise we could have a poison-week to celebrate with Muk Monday.
You forgot another staple gen 9 poison type, Wo-chien
Overall I'd say that nowadays the Poison as a type is in a pretty okay spot. If anything were to change, I'd just want them to make the ability Corrosion make the Pokemon with it able to not only inflict poison status on Steel types, but damage them with moves too and also increase the distribution on it.
How the hell are y'all cranking this much stuff out?? 🙏
12:39 that's a flower jimothy
Pure ghost gengar would be insane for gen 1
I have to give a shoutout to Alolan Muk released in Gen 7
Venusaur doesnt learn sludge bomb in gen 2, FYI.