I’d just like to take time to pay respect to the house band for having the awareness to know exactly when a fight starts to intensify the music accordingly. Very professional musicianship.
@@benriffle104 when you’re even in the same town as DDL, you bring your A game or at least try to keep up. Johnny was like, what the hell did he say? When McGloin explained what the word meant, Bill looks away and laughs.
Me too. I kind of feel like he had a legitimate bone to pick. I think it would be kind of fucked up too, to steal some dead bodies and sell them on the side.
Daniel Day-Lewis is one of the finest actors to grace the big screen. He’s never made a movie that he didn’t nail his role right to the wall. It doesn’t get better than Bill the Butcher.
So true but from what I have heard and read it also makes him a difficult person to be around. When Daniel Day-Lewis was still acting he had a reputation for being among that select crop of method actors who took their work way too seriously. Basically that means he would get so immersed in his characters that he would be them all of the time. Actress Vicky Krieps who co-starred with him in his last film Phantom Thread commented how she tried to stay away from him during filming because he was just not the kind of person you would want to be in the company of.
@@xyPERSON She said she was avoiding him to make their first meet more real; but when it happened she thought that was it, they would be like colleages. However DDL stayed in character all the time so one day she knocked his door and he welcomed her calling her "Alma", he was so nice to her and they would have long conversations about musicals and movies, always in character; but she had a good opinion about him, at least on the interviews I saw of her. Sorry for my broken English.
@@yosoykarito Your English is just fine and thank you for clearing that up for me. You hear and read all kinds of things online and never really know what's true and what isnt.
Because Bill knows that Priest was actually the better man. After all, Bill had to resort to an underhanded move and throw another man in Priests way, just to distract him for a moment.
@@Embrachu it does say a lot about the Butcher, he knew he couldn't beat him and he did have to resort to an underhand move to best Priest Vallon, but even after his victory, he still respected him years later and still talked about the Priest honorably. I'm fairly certain that they admired each other and their beliefs in a way but were on opposing sides of the table.
@@knightwind6628 think he even says it at one point in the movie that the Priest was an honorable man, and the last honorable man that Bill knew of in the 5 Points
Bill in his own way was an honorable man. He treated priests corpse with respect allowing no desecration, and had him buried with his weapons. He also made sure that Amsterdam grew up in a place where he would be relatively safe and his needs met.
I love Daniel Days accent, it feels so authentic like he's from the time period. Very inventive. I feel it would be hard to understand people in 19th Century America but he does a good job making it different but not silly or weird.
How would you know if it's authentic or not? Were you around that location during that time period? Or are you just regurgitating what you've heard elsewhere?
Everyone has their own voice, even today. He put more work into his accent from what everyone talks about, but no one stood out as having an awful accent in this movie.
If you watch closely, look at Day Lewis's reaction when he calls him that name - it's really understated but just says 'even I don't fucking know what you are on about....' brilliant.
Leo got that fighting stance to damn near Perfect historical accuracy. When he stood like that, he looked like a vintage photograph of Irish bar history lol
@@rong2912 It was the old timey way of providing distance for your face and your hands because BNB was usually bodyshots. Why break your hand on some goons face? Eventually people started using the Philly Shell, and that opened up the head game and killed the duke's up stance. This is all irrelevant because Leo had the dude in a clean RNC, no chin. That's lights out in 7 seconds for anybody, but instead he lets go and sticks his hand in the old man's mouth. 😅
That 5-6 second pause before they violently take their jackets off is the chefs kiss on this scene for me. I watched this movie for the 10th time last night and that pause had me on the edge of my seat once again. This film is almost perfect IMO. Historically accurate as well from what I’ve read.
Couldn't agree more.... Impossible to pick a fave scene, in a film, bursting with solid gold scenes..... But yeah... I think THAT, is my favorite moment....
1:46 It's almost like fights happen SO often that there's a set procedure marked by them taking their jackets off, to then move the tables, get all the monies out, set up the wager and bet on the winner with different music playing etc all within a short time which seems so efficient and organised - it's like it's so standard xD
As a Kick-boxer myself, I can say this scene is quite realistic : I often fight opponents smaller than me, and I can tell you they fight exactly like Gary Lewis (McGloine) : as they have a shorter reach, they move and bend to avoid the strokes of their taller opponent. And once they can hit your ribs, they don't leave you anymore. True pitbulls...
Most of the time you still can. Gotta be careful though, too many guys and girls too scared to take a beating will pull a gun on your ass. Happened a few weeks ago where I work.
yo this scene amps me up so much to the rawness of the history in this country and how free everyone used to be. The whole bar just responded by making way for the fight of two free men and bets were immediately started. shit was insane.
Haha! And I bet you wished that still happened today, right? I mean, it's still doable but you have to accept the fact that it might no longer be just fists and you'll either get cut or shot.
@George Washington derrrr.... stupid comment..... blah blah.... right. yea people were much more violent. there was a lot less rules. Women had full bushes.... it was the golden years.
For those that didn't read the book, McGloin was like one of the baddest dudes in the Five Rabbits. (Leonardo's fathers Irish gang.) He defected to the Natives when the Dead Rabbits were disbanded. But in order to get in, had to prove his worth by fighting and killing his way in to the gang. For Amsterdam to have defeated him is a tremendous feat in Bill's eyes.
I love the tiny detail that he has to read "a fresh outrage" slowly like he's thinking about the words, but speeds up at "the Five Points" because he's seen it written much more frequently.
even though this scene didn't focus on DDL, his presence and every word/act exerted the strongest presence on screen. his performance as Bill the Butcher in this film will go down as one of the finest in history.
Even though he wasn't in the majority of the action, Daniel Day Lewis commands the whole scene. He owns that room, especially when he walks over to Amsterdam and gives him the meat for his face. Lewis is one of the greatest actors of this generation or any for that matter.
One of the very few times in the film where the Butcher is playful and good humoured at the end there. There was always menace to every scene he was in but he disarmed it here and Di Caprio's character is laughing in relief and because it was funny.
@@antzooma Bill the Butcher says it right after the fight, poking fun at the older McGloin who thinks he’s a tough guy but almost got his cheek ripped open by the younger Amsterdam (Leo’s character)
When the UFC first started the fish hook was actually a named illegal technique. Considering groin shots were perfectly legal actually says something about the fish hook.
No. I think in this one Leo is correctly cast, He is supposed to be an underfew scrawny mid-teen out of the orphanage where he spent 10 years fighting with sodomite monks as well as other irish orphans. He is basically Brad Pitt in movie Snatch without the tattoos or a periwinkle blue caravan.
Except brad Pitt in Snatch had crazy one punch knockout power, but leo here did well. I like how the bald Irishmen who was at least slightly portrayed as someone who has seen his fair share of street fights shows so decent skill and toughness by staying calm and focused when he are a few punches to the face, then perfectly timed a duck under Leo's last punch while they were both on their feet and hit him with a sweet combo that sent 2 good shots to the body and then went upstairs to get him with another 2 shots to the face all in one fluid combo. Old man has some hands on him, his only fault, like so many people back then and even nowadays, he had little to no wrestling/grappling skills or techniques wich is what cost him the fight. I would have loved to see a rematch between these two later in the movie where it's settled with boxing on the feet. But showing them hit the ground and roll around the way they did was great for realistically showing an actual street fight. Very realistic and well done fight scene!!
Titanic part 2: Jack Dawson survives the sinking of the titanic, washes ashore with amnesia and continues to journey his way through the criminal underworld of the streets of New York
No one actually fought knuckles up like that. They held fists up and palm heels up so they could palm strike and rake their fingernails across the opponents face or thumb their eyes.
Would love to see more onflict resolution like this. Just two guys using fists to settle their difference in a fair fight. No guns, knives, sucker punches, just fight till one can't continue.
so justice doesn't figure into it, then, in your preferred means of resolution, the right and wrong of the dispute is irrelevant, it's just might equals right. see, you only get to that position by being a privilege brat who's lived his whole life taking for granted the systems, formal and informal, that protect him from men who would beat the shit out of him. ironically that's an argument against the mechanisms of civilization you daydream of bypassing, they protect you too well from the natural consequences of your terrible opinions. if you ever had to actually live in the kind of society you're dreaming of you'd soon regret it, no matter how much you fantasize about winning fistfights.
This film would have been much better in my opinion if Leonardo DiCaprio's role had been different. Instead of him portraying the vengeful son of a slain priest whose ultimate goal is to avenge his father by killing Bill, he should have portrayed Bill's actual right-hand man. Let's face it... even though I truly believe DiCaprio has improved significantly as an actor over the years, in this film he just couldn't hold his own against Daniel Dae Lewis's character Bill the Butcher.
Agreed, him and Diaz were the low points of this movie. Their accents and characters were atrocious. Luckily Gleeson, Day-Lewis, Neeson, and Broadbent were all excellent.
+Livingston Hampton Kinda of a late response, but I agree, DiCaprio has definitely improved as an actor. The wold of Wall Street is awesome! He has come a long way from Titanic.
I am a kick-boxer myself and I find it's incredible they both keep all their teeth after such a knuckle boxing fight. Even though the hits, jabs and swings are realistic enough. Without a gum shield, you can bid farewell to your ability to eat something else than soup or porridge
I've also done my share of full-contact fighting starting almost 40 years ago and not just in a sport context. Some of it on the street as a metro police officer where it really counted. While I love this scene and the entire movie, in those days boxing wasn't based on movement to near the degree that it is in modern times. So this scene is not especially factually accurate. Back then instead of circling each other, feinting, and the like boxing was largely an affair of two men standing rooted to the spot within arm's reach of each other and then just slugging each other until one man could no longer continue the fight. Blocking and slipping weren't much of a thing then either. It was a matter of being able to absorb more trauma than your opponent, and speed was not considered especially important. Winning generally meant just staying on your feet and trying to knock your opponent off his. Despite the bare-knuckle brutality of such vintage western boxing, even the best of from then wouldn't have a prayer against a skilled modern boxer because by moving he would largely prevent more than a few punches from actually landing on him, and he would be able to strike the old-fashioned boxer with near impunity as often and as quickly as he liked. Oddly enough, modern Western boxing much more closely resembles ancient Greek boxing when it was one of the three combat sports contested at the ancient Greek olympics than Victorian era boxing. They did move a lot, and block, and considered being fast and good footwork just as important as being as being able to absorb punishment. It was considered the most brutal of the three combat sports because unlike with pankration, where the entire body save the testicles was considered a legit target, in ancient Greek boxing the acceptable targets were only the torso and (especially) the face and head and damage was highly concentrated in those areas. Accordingly, champion boxers were almost to a one horribly disfigured.
@@patrickscalia5088 that is correct, in those days, dodging, weaving, and clinching to avoid getting hit was considered very cowardly in those days. Masculinity back then is WAY different than today's standards.
@@yommmrr Yeah I was gonna say something similar. A knee to the jaw? That might knock out a tooth or two but this guy saying they’re both toothless after what was depicted in this scene?
This definition I found on the internet too: chissler one who is totally deceitful and dishonest, and will use these particular charachteristics to their advantage by screwing you out of your hard earned cash; a con artist
@@burtmaclinfbi3993 Yes him and every politician. That's their actual job. They tell people what they want to hear, "Free college' "Free healthcare" they are giving votes and money and then they use that to enrich themselves. Just ask Obama who entered the WH well off and left a multi-billionaire.
@@maybeitsyou1317 Obama is rich because of his books. Also it's not free healthcare. It's single-payer. If you had an ounce of brains between your ears you would understand how it works.
before this stance if you know your history fighting in america had no movement just to guys standing face to face punching each other until us Irish came and showed use how to fight... before you piss yourself go check your history.
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I’d just like to take time to pay respect to the house band for having the awareness to know exactly when a fight starts to intensify the music accordingly. Very professional musicianship.
They should have played the Benny Hill theme when the fight started, but I agree 100% 👍
Boss battle music: ringa-a-ting-ling-filldy-ding-a-tingy-ting
I love how as soon as the fight started, the old man ramped up his playing.
Paul Thoresen The song is called Morrison's jig
Paul Thoresen This gave me a good n solid giggle.
LOL
Hahahahahahahaha
I love how fights happen so often that everyone automatically and quickly knows what to do and moves the tables.
it's hard on the peace and it's hard on the furniture -- John Cleese
and immediately starts making bets lol
Even though it's a movie it's very realistic to the time period. Words were very serious and you had to be accountable for what you spoke.
That’s how it’s done .. no need to keep talking , move the tables and get to business. Old school
It is not safe to speak, it's even less safe not to speak. - JBP
Love how everyone else moves chairs and tables out of the way as though a fight in this place is a constant occurrence
Historical accuracy.
...and it probably was.
It probably did New York City is a very hard city
People need to fight more often
They made sure this fight was happening
" So Then We Got Business" is such a classy threat lol
Daniel Aguilar that we do boio
@@carloslopes8927 ringa-a-ting-ling-filldy-ding-a-tingy-ting ...
@@CrniWuk u copied...
@@ssimon64 O've been called a lot of things Mr. but O've never been called uhm ...
(nod)
They're taking bets within 5 seconds, classic
The first rule of fight club - don't be calling no one a chisseller!
Jizzler*
You just broke rules 1 and 2... heh.
@TBALLZ_973 no thats a name for a pornstar
Or a fidlan benn
I was having a down day until I read that comment! LOL
The 5 seconds of no dialogue where both just stare at one another before removing their jackets is 10 out of 10
I thought they were going to kiss
@@nathanglover8938📸📸📸
In the words of Red Foreman, "If you're not mad enough to bare knuckle box, you're not mad."
Ain't that the truth
That could end on the last time you are gonna be mad
Wise man.
Imagine being able to control your temper
@@chadsterrribleMany times I wish I had. Felt foolish afterward.
0:52 Bill’s face after McGloin says Fidlam Bens. Priceless.
I think the other actor did a great job taking a que from DDL and his look and head movement of confusion.
@@benriffle104 you’re talking about Johnny?
@@jdgustofwinddance.7748 Yeah. It doesn't look like it was planned, but he saw DDL and copied his head movement.
@@benriffle104 when you’re even in the same town as DDL, you bring your A game or at least try to keep up. Johnny was like, what the hell did he say? When McGloin explained what the word meant, Bill looks away and laughs.
thought it was Fiddlin bends
The way DDL says "... *ghoul?* " is completely perfect. One word and you know how good he is. That's an actor.
Somehow manages to fit about seven syllables into a one syllable word!
Best actor ever...
Z3440 X No way
@@Soundtrack33VEVO He's a genius! no one compares to him.
@@yosoykarito Watch some Richard Harris, Peter O'Toole and Laurence Olivier movies then get back to me.
“Supposin I am”
“Well then we got business”
“That we do”
Me an my uncle over the last dr pepper
wayne 😂😂
I was routing for the short, bald guy...because I'm short & bald.
Me too. I kind of feel like he had a legitimate bone to pick. I think it would be kind of fucked up too, to steal some dead bodies and sell them on the side.
You wouldn't happen to be Larry David?! lol "Bald people are discriminated against constantly!"
Larrymh07 watch his left !
Larrymh07 y'all gotta stick together
I was rooting for the guy with the huge penis.
the butchers face when he calls them fiddlin bens
It's genius.
lol even he was like; ooooh shit!.....
Yea I always wondered what was he thinking with that look
Nothing like putting a piece of room temperature meat on your face
0:52
Daniel Day-Lewis is one of the finest actors to grace the big screen. He’s never made a movie that he didn’t nail his role right to the wall. It doesn’t get better than Bill the Butcher.
*Daniel Plainview
imagine seeing Daniel Day-Lewis star in a Tarantino movie. That would be truly amazing
So true but from what I have heard and read it also makes him a difficult person to be around. When Daniel Day-Lewis was still acting he had a reputation for being among that select crop of method actors who took their work way too seriously. Basically that means he would get so immersed in his characters that he would be them all of the time. Actress Vicky Krieps who co-starred with him in his last film Phantom Thread commented how she tried to stay away from him during filming because he was just not the kind of person you would want to be in the company of.
@@xyPERSON She said she was avoiding him to make their first meet more real; but when it happened she thought that was it, they would be like colleages. However DDL stayed in character all the time so one day she knocked his door and he welcomed her calling her "Alma", he was so nice to her and they would have long conversations about musicals and movies, always in character; but she had a good opinion about him, at least on the interviews I saw of her. Sorry for my broken English.
@@yosoykarito Your English is just fine and thank you for clearing that up for me. You hear and read all kinds of things online and never really know what's true and what isnt.
I love the respect Bill has for Priest, even all these years alter he keeps his picture and pics it up off the floor almost reverently
Because Bill knows that Priest was actually the better man. After all, Bill had to resort to an underhanded move and throw another man in Priests way, just to distract him for a moment.
@@Embrachu it does say a lot about the Butcher, he knew he couldn't beat him and he did have to resort to an underhand move to best Priest Vallon, but even after his victory, he still respected him years later and still talked about the Priest honorably. I'm fairly certain that they admired each other and their beliefs in a way but were on opposing sides of the table.
@@knightwind6628 think he even says it at one point in the movie that the Priest was an honorable man, and the last honorable man that Bill knew of in the 5 Points
Bill in his own way was an honorable man. He treated priests corpse with respect allowing no desecration, and had him buried with his weapons. He also made sure that Amsterdam grew up in a place where he would be relatively safe and his needs met.
Your nemesis must be worthy of your respect.
Still better then Mayweather-Pacquiao.
+stonedrful Yeah men.
May was the bitch in that one, not Pac
stonedrful a red hot poker up the arse is better than mayweather -pacquiao. Now there's a couple of chiselers for you.
stonedrful no
Than. Come on.
i love that as soon as someone mentions "fight", the music picks up and they're already placing bets. great film
I love Daniel Days accent, it feels so authentic like he's from the time period. Very inventive. I feel it would be hard to understand people in 19th Century America but he does a good job making it different but not silly or weird.
He spent every day using that accent while he had days to shoot, even off screen. He wanted it to sound truly authentic.
How would you know if it's authentic or not? Were you around that location during that time period? Or are you just regurgitating what you've heard elsewhere?
@@westy1637 lol maybe hes a vampire
@@westy1637 They found play scripts from the era that had notes for the pronunciation and intonation.
Everyone has their own voice, even today. He put more work into his accent from what everyone talks about, but no one stood out as having an awful accent in this movie.
If you watch closely, look at Day Lewis's reaction when he calls him that name - it's really understated but just says 'even I don't fucking know what you are on about....' brilliant.
I think the opposite, The butcher knows what he is saying, and is appalled at the acusation.
I agree with your comment and was actually searching to see if someone commented on it. 😀
@@bpdarragh I think everyone understood the implication, but its a toss up how many of them knew the slang.
00:52 Yep, 'what the fuck are you going on about'
I always thought he looked dumbfounded when he heard the word and looked at leo😆
Leo got that fighting stance to damn near Perfect historical accuracy. When he stood like that, he looked like a vintage photograph of Irish bar history lol
That left right combo was nice to!
Wow, much brave. Such stronk.
I wish I could go back to that time with my 21st century MMA skill and have a go at those miss nancys
@@rong2912 It was the old timey way of providing distance for your face and your hands because BNB was usually bodyshots. Why break your hand on some goons face?
Eventually people started using the Philly Shell, and that opened up the head game and killed the duke's up stance.
This is all irrelevant because Leo had the dude in a clean RNC, no chin. That's lights out in 7 seconds for anybody, but instead he lets go and sticks his hand in the old man's mouth. 😅
@@THEjoelivingstone they had no kicking skills
That 5-6 second pause before they violently take their jackets off is the chefs kiss on this scene for me. I watched this movie for the 10th time last night and that pause had me on the edge of my seat once again. This film is almost perfect IMO. Historically accurate as well from what I’ve read.
Absolutely. So much tension, you could cut it with the butchers ghoul knife.
Couldn't agree more.... Impossible to pick a fave scene, in a film, bursting with solid gold scenes..... But yeah... I think THAT, is my favorite moment....
0:30... You have to admit that it is pretty impressive that Amsterdam was able to make the papers, make the papers.
Perfect Goodfellas reference..well done
It's a good thing he didn't say McGloin was being a funny guy...
And in a periodical of note
@@davidmeyer6908 no more fiddlin' bens, Billy.
@@CLxJames I Dont see any mention of Sobotka
I love how Bill showed respect with the smile and the slight nod after he handed Leo the meat.
"This here's Amsterdam, he almost fishhooked McGloin the other day"
nearly
God bless the fishhook lol
I could think of otha things to call you, Boyo...
"now chislers, theres a word i understand"
I love how that one fellow is literally playing boss battle music in the background lol
1:46 It's almost like fights happen SO often that there's a set procedure marked by them taking their jackets off,
to then move the tables, get all the monies out, set up the wager and bet on the winner with different music playing etc
all within a short time which seems so efficient and organised - it's like it's so standard xD
Fights back in the day were more honorable.
It wasn't uncommon for men to settle a score like this .
No weapons either .
@@johnduggan8398 There be honour among thieves :)
The country was once populated by men...not left wing sissies and soy boys, and women *pretending* to he men.
I know he is supposed to be the bad guy/punching fodder but the Irish guy was FANTASTIC! I love that actor!
Which Irish guy are you talking about?
All the people talking im the scene are Irish, tf?
A body's supposed to stay beneath the earth, wearing the wooden coat until the resurrection! Lol...
@Matthew Barnes maybe yer just a couple a fiddlam bens
The bald guy is Scottish
the fact that John C. Railey was in this movie still, to this day blows my mind
He's actually been in some good films. Good actor.
2:00
"So what kind of music do you like to play when two grown ass men decide to fight?"
"Yes"
I love the stare down before they brawl. Epic
Shame on the Oscars for not giving anything to these Masterpiece.
I think the love subplot is pretty stupid though. It kind of hinders it from being a great Scorsese movie
That happens in war movies. They have to include women in there, otherwise, it will just be a all men.
Wearing the wooden coat until the resurection!!!!
Lol, I thought that was funny too.
a periodical of note...lol
Woolen coat. Jackets were made of wool back then.
its wooden coat not woolen....and its referring to the wooden coffin duh
shut up maggot
As a Kick-boxer myself, I can say this scene is quite realistic : I often fight opponents smaller than me, and I can tell you they fight exactly like Gary Lewis (McGloine) : as they have a shorter reach, they move and bend to avoid the strokes of their taller opponent. And once they can hit your ribs, they don't leave you anymore. True pitbulls...
As a tai chi space ranger myself I also concur that Hollywood movie fights are totally real
@@Skinhound necro posting just to look like a fool
As a master of camasutra, i can say that it is true
@@zarakul6663 the apocalips is upon us
I love how they all move the tables like scrapping is a regular thing in there.
the good ole days when u could resolve your problem with throwing hands
for real you can still do that, cops don't really give a shit and it's fun for everyone else provided they're not a bunch of pussies
Most of the time you still can. Gotta be careful though, too many guys and girls too scared to take a beating will pull a gun on your ass. Happened a few weeks ago where I work.
And wouldn’t get arrested.
Duke it out, shake hands and go your separate ways
Still happens all the time in Europe😂
Doesn’t happen as much in America because pussies tend to buy guns, and pull them on any threat
Bill’s face is priceless when the fiddlin bens comment is thrown out
3:25 Bill approaches him like he's gonna kill him, you never know what he will do, brilliant acting
Love that long stare down before they start the fight.
35 people are too low to work up a decent lay for themselves
Night King you callin them.chisslers???
says the guy who steals dragons :@ haha
HAHAHAHAH
🤣🤣🤣
Night King lol!!
The music in this movie was absolutely perfect. The violins and the hammered dulcimers, brilliant.
yo this scene amps me up so much to the rawness of the history in this country and how free everyone used to be. The whole bar just responded by making way for the fight of two free men and bets were immediately started. shit was insane.
Haha! And I bet you wished that still happened today, right? I mean, it's still doable but you have to accept the fact that it might no longer be just fists and you'll either get cut or shot.
@@Ermac97 And every bet will get taxed by the house....
They needed entertainment and tv wasn’t around. 😂
@George Washington derrrr.... stupid comment..... blah blah.... right.
yea people were much more violent. there was a lot less rules. Women had full bushes.... it was the golden years.
@@ezswan6880 ehh there wasn’t as much lawlessness as we’d like to think.
1:59 min
the musican reacts immediatly and increases the adrenalin with faster playing :D
really really enjoyed this movie...hard to say that very often nowdays
Its a classic
Al Bundy scored 4 touchdowns in a single game for Polk High
hell yeah
People forget that
@@rohunsaigal2576 yeah, fukin a, they do. thanks for knowing this Rohun
K... that was random...😑
Lest we forget
For those that didn't read the book, McGloin was like one of the baddest dudes in the Five Rabbits. (Leonardo's fathers Irish gang.)
He defected to the Natives when the Dead Rabbits were disbanded. But in order to get in, had to prove his worth by fighting and killing his way in to the gang.
For Amsterdam to have defeated him is a tremendous feat in Bill's eyes.
I love people like you who add cool context to things like this. Here's a beer on me! 🍺
It's interesting how the boxing style was different back then. Amazing stance !
I don't remember Bruce Willis being in this film
Charly McClatchy is not funny bitch!!
Lmao it definitely is
@@arielacevedo9662
Hahahaha nice one I got it
Charly McClatchy That’s Gary Lewis.
Hahahaaaa
Haha bills face when he hears the expression “fiddlin bens”
Yes a Authentic what the fuck look
Never noticed that before DDL was great in this movie. 😂
I love the tiny detail that he has to read "a fresh outrage" slowly like he's thinking about the words, but speeds up at "the Five Points" because he's seen it written much more frequently.
Thank you for pointing out yet ANOTHER fine detail that makes this film a masterpiece.
even though this scene didn't focus on DDL, his presence and every word/act exerted the strongest presence on screen. his performance as Bill the Butcher in this film will go down as one of the finest in history.
Even though he wasn't in the majority of the action, Daniel Day Lewis commands the whole scene. He owns that room, especially when he walks over to Amsterdam and gives him the meat for his face. Lewis is one of the greatest actors of this generation or any for that matter.
Yeah he really does, but goddamn I wish I could understand the bald dude, I barely got 20% of what he was saying lmao
It’s called being a main character. That’s how movies work
@@jygb7092except Leo was the main character buddy
@@jwoz8517he just has abysmal articulation as an actor.
The look on Daneil Day Lewis's face at 0:52 and 1:22 is priceless!
The look on DDL’s face when he hears “fidlam Bens” 😂
I like the fact that he literally gives him his pound of flesh, good metaphor, missed it the first few times I watched.
One of the very few times in the film where the Butcher is playful and good humoured at the end there. There was always menace to every scene he was in but he disarmed it here and Di Caprio's character is laughing in relief and because it was funny.
"A periodical of note."
I love the Butcher and his facial expression when he hears the fiddling ben insult. It was like damn you gonna let him say that?
It was more meant to be a "what the hell does that mean?" look.
Daniel Day-Lewis saved this scene. As a matter of fact, without him, this whole movie would've been a total joke.
Agreed
Dead wrong bro this was a good movie
Agreed. DDL was the highlight of the whole film
Him neeson and gleason
I wouldn't say a total joke, but it would be pretty damn mediocre. DDL really is the star of the movie.
“McGloin...nearly fish-hooked by a scrap”
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@@antzooma Bill the Butcher says it right after the fight, poking fun at the older McGloin who thinks he’s a tough guy but almost got his cheek ripped open by the younger Amsterdam (Leo’s character)
@@Nedmundo14 but he doesn't he says sprat
@@antzooma oh why didn’t you just say that. I must’ve misheard, they sound pretty close 🙄
He's just a kid, McGloin..!
Battle music engaged! 1:59
"McGloyn, fishhooked by a sprat!"
You betta leave that head alooone.
A catholic that changed sides his ancestors probley grassed guy fawkes
The fish hook....most lethal move ever.
When the UFC first started the fish hook was actually a named illegal technique. Considering groin shots were perfectly legal actually says something about the fish hook.
It feels so good watching those tense 5 seconds before they square up
"here, put this piece of room temp meat on your face. it will do absolutely nothing." lol wtf.
Except maybe a skin rash or topical worms...
It kept the swelling down
God the tavern music just makes this scene
watch his left McLoin, watch his left!
Come on McLoin, he's just a kid!
You're getting too old for it, McGloin.
SHARE H!S V!S!0N that boot heel almost cracked his skull
Two bucks on McLoin
Respect for McGloin he got nuts.
This is how two men of culture handle their problems.
The butchers face after he calls him a fidlum benz is hilarious.
"a periodical of note!"
The fish hook is my goto move.
I just started watching the movie last week, I'm almost a quarter of the way through it.
Lol i like how the muscian went from casual music into a fight rif tune lol
Fine I will watch this masterpiece again
124 years later, Amsterdam's great-great-great-grandson would walk into a bar and ask for cranberry juice, and the fight would start again!
Was he on his period?!
No. I think in this one Leo is correctly cast, He is supposed to be an underfew scrawny mid-teen out of the orphanage where he spent 10 years fighting with sodomite monks as well as other irish orphans. He is basically Brad Pitt in movie Snatch without the tattoos or a periwinkle blue caravan.
Or dags
Except brad Pitt in Snatch had crazy one punch knockout power, but leo here did well. I like how the bald Irishmen who was at least slightly portrayed as someone who has seen his fair share of street fights shows so decent skill and toughness by staying calm and focused when he are a few punches to the face, then perfectly timed a duck under Leo's last punch while they were both on their feet and hit him with a sweet combo that sent 2 good shots to the body and then went upstairs to get him with another 2 shots to the face all in one fluid combo. Old man has some hands on him, his only fault, like so many people back then and even nowadays, he had little to no wrestling/grappling skills or techniques wich is what cost him the fight. I would have loved to see a rematch between these two later in the movie where it's settled with boxing on the feet. But showing them hit the ground and roll around the way they did was great for realistically showing an actual street fight. Very realistic and well done fight scene!!
Or the matching keeshway covers
Wait one minute ..
Not even close !!!!
There was only one Micky.
I love that everyone starts gambling the second a fight breaks out
Ah the Gangs of new york. Truly a gem of a movie.
Di Caprio's accent is all over the place in this scene.
Gary Lewis, nicest celebrity I ever met. Even gave me a hug! Top man👍🏴
Gangs of New York (2002) - Fight Scene
Me: “Do you have the slightest idea how little that narrows it down?”
Daniel Day Lewis : one of the greatest actors of all the times...
Titanic part 2: Jack Dawson survives the sinking of the titanic, washes ashore with amnesia and continues to journey his way through the criminal underworld of the streets of New York
It’d be a crossover between Titanic and Back to the Future, as Jack would arrive in New York a century before the Titanic was built.
Titanic sank about 50 years after the end of this movie
This could be Jack's father
14 people are fidlam bens
lmao
socallawrence it's fiddlen
navalcomand1981 a low level theif whos willing to steal anything no matter how low he has to sink
navalcomand1981 no prob cut to the 1:05 mark and they explain it. Though with the heavy accent it is easy to miss.
Fiddlin'
No one actually fought knuckles up like that. They held fists up and palm heels up so they could palm strike and rake their fingernails across the opponents face or thumb their eyes.
Would love to see more onflict resolution like this. Just two guys using fists to settle their difference in a fair fight. No guns, knives, sucker punches, just fight till one can't continue.
so justice doesn't figure into it, then, in your preferred means of resolution, the right and wrong of the dispute is irrelevant, it's just might equals right. see, you only get to that position by being a privilege brat who's lived his whole life taking for granted the systems, formal and informal, that protect him from men who would beat the shit out of him. ironically that's an argument against the mechanisms of civilization you daydream of bypassing, they protect you too well from the natural consequences of your terrible opinions. if you ever had to actually live in the kind of society you're dreaming of you'd soon regret it, no matter how much you fantasize about winning fistfights.
@@scottmatheson3346you really overthought that. You must have a very sad life. What exactly would you recommend for conflict resolutions smart guy?
Imagine knowing MMA back in those days.
This film would have been much better in my opinion if Leonardo DiCaprio's role had been different. Instead of him portraying the vengeful son of a slain priest whose ultimate goal is to avenge his father by killing Bill, he should have portrayed Bill's actual right-hand man. Let's face it... even though I truly believe DiCaprio has improved significantly as an actor over the years, in this film he just couldn't hold his own against Daniel Dae Lewis's character Bill the Butcher.
Agreed, him and Diaz were the low points of this movie. Their accents and characters were atrocious. Luckily Gleeson, Day-Lewis, Neeson, and Broadbent were all excellent.
Livingston Hampton for sho
+Livingston Hampton Kinda of a late response, but I agree, DiCaprio has definitely improved as an actor. The wold of Wall Street is awesome! He has come a long way from Titanic.
+J Gamez And now look at this, he may even win an oscar, what has the world come to.
+Livingston Hampton
Nobody can hold their own against Daniel Day Lewis.
I'll give this to DiCaprio...he only takes roles in fucking incredible movies.
Possibly one of the best movies ever
"The Mighty McGloin, almost fish-hooked by a Sprat.."
I am a kick-boxer myself and I find it's incredible they both keep all their teeth after such a knuckle boxing fight. Even though the hits, jabs and swings are realistic enough. Without a gum shield, you can bid farewell to your ability to eat something else than soup or porridge
I've also done my share of full-contact fighting starting almost 40 years ago and not just in a sport context. Some of it on the street as a metro police officer where it really counted. While I love this scene and the entire movie, in those days boxing wasn't based on movement to near the degree that it is in modern times. So this scene is not especially factually accurate. Back then instead of circling each other, feinting, and the like boxing was largely an affair of two men standing rooted to the spot within arm's reach of each other and then just slugging each other until one man could no longer continue the fight. Blocking and slipping weren't much of a thing then either. It was a matter of being able to absorb more trauma than your opponent, and speed was not considered especially important. Winning generally meant just staying on your feet and trying to knock your opponent off his. Despite the bare-knuckle brutality of such vintage western boxing, even the best of from then wouldn't have a prayer against a skilled modern boxer because by moving he would largely prevent more than a few punches from actually landing on him, and he would be able to strike the old-fashioned boxer with near impunity as often and as quickly as he liked.
Oddly enough, modern Western boxing much more closely resembles ancient Greek boxing when it was one of the three combat sports contested at the ancient Greek olympics than Victorian era boxing. They did move a lot, and block, and considered being fast and good footwork just as important as being as being able to absorb punishment. It was considered the most brutal of the three combat sports because unlike with pankration, where the entire body save the testicles was considered a legit target, in ancient Greek boxing the acceptable targets were only the torso and (especially) the face and head and damage was highly concentrated in those areas. Accordingly, champion boxers were almost to a one horribly disfigured.
@@patrickscalia5088 that is correct, in those days, dodging, weaving, and clinching to avoid getting hit was considered very cowardly in those days. Masculinity back then is WAY different than today's standards.
I've been in plenty of Barney's and never lost a tooth.
@@yommmrr Yeah I was gonna say something similar. A knee to the jaw? That might knock out a tooth or two but this guy saying they’re both toothless after what was depicted in this scene?
This definition I found on the internet too:
chissler
one who is totally deceitful and dishonest, and will use these particular charachteristics to their advantage by screwing you out of your hard earned cash; a con artist
Them's fight'n words.
So Donald Trump is a chissler?
@@burtmaclinfbi3993 Yes him and every politician. That's their actual job. They tell people what they want to hear, "Free college' "Free healthcare" they are giving votes and money and then they use that to enrich themselves. Just ask Obama who entered the WH well off and left a multi-billionaire.
@@maybeitsyou1317 Obama is rich because of his books. Also it's not free healthcare. It's single-payer. If you had an ounce of brains between your ears you would understand how it works.
@@maybeitsyou1317 Obama isnt even close to a billionaire
1:20 The extremely rare occasion of Daniel Day-Lewis breaking character on camera.
"Yer gettin too old fer this, McGloin!" lmao
Fidlam Ben, Chiseler; These insults XD
Fiddlin' Ben.. chisler
Spoon, helmet, doorknob were popular at school in the 00s
@@bobolinkr You're wrong on both..
Gary Lewis is such an underrated actor. Scotland is filled with them.
Underrated actors
@@boomerhgt Not Gary Lewis's? 😆
Whenever I hear the background music in this scene, I can’t help having the leprechaun pop into my mind. 😏
underrated movie.
It was nominated for 10 Oscars. I don't think "underrated" is the right word here...
I always wondered how they fought in that stance
before this stance if you know your history fighting in america had no movement just to guys standing face to face punching each other until us Irish came and showed use how to fight... before you piss yourself go check your history.