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GoCoax MoCA 2.5 Network Extender Review - 2.5 Gigabit Backbone over Coax Cable TV Wiring!
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- čas přidán 17. 08. 2024
- Buy it on Amazon - lon.tv/h3ij (affiliate link) - The most affordable MoCA adapters also happen to be the fastest! We take a look at the new GoCoax MoCA 2.5 adapters that can transit 2.5 gigabits of data over coax cable. See more of my MoCA videos for additional info: lon.tv/moca
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VIDEO INDEX:
0:00 - Intro
02:06 - Hardware Overview
02:08 - Price
02:14 - Setup Explanation
03:25 - Ports
05:00 - Choosing compatible splitters
07:00 - 1:1 speed test
07:39 - Latency
08:36 - Testing 2.5 gigabit speed
09:11 - Network Configuration
09:44 - Dual Network Test
11:17 - Web Control Panel
12:37 - MoCA 2.0 Device Test
14:04 - Security Setup
15:46 - Encryption
16:45 - Encrypted Speed Test
17:00 - Conclusion
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I've been using four MoCA 2.0 adapters in my home for several years. Rock solid connection that is every bit as fast as gigabit ethernet. My home only had coax connections in all the rooms, so this was way easier than hard wiring ethernet throughout. These GoCoax unit are cheaper than the other units on Amazon.
Way back when, I stumbled onto Lon''s site when I was doing a search on how to successfully get internet connections throughout our 30 year old home with a minimum of wall destruction. I had never heard of MoCA technology (or Lon, for that matter - LOL). Lon's explanation was so clear, even an old dinosaur like me understood. When we originally built the house, I ran coax cable to every room from a central input hub. This allowed me to easily push the internet into every room using the MoCA technology. We have been using our MoCA connections for years with absolutely no issues. GREAT technology introduced to me by a GREAT purveyor of all things computer...
I just want to correct you. I have been using MocA for years now as after I became a cripple, I could no longer get upstairs to my bedroom and my router is indeed upstairs.
The speeds are NOT up/down. They are TOTAL, and SHARED between devices.
MoCa 2.0 is 500 max. that means all devices will share that 500 max speed. Which for me, having 3 set top boxes and my computer using moca, would net me 250 up 250 down on my pc with the rest split between the set top boxes.
MoCa 2.0 Bonded is 1000 max. again, 3 set top boxes (but newer versions as we got upgraded for free and the new boxes use faster moca standards), and my computer, results in about 600/600 max speeds at my pc.
MoCa 2.5 is 2500 max, which in my case should give me my full 1000/1000 fiber connection along side the set top boxes.
As far as the "TV" port/part of this adapter..... From the two adapters I've used previously, both Motorola and Actiontec, VERIZON set top boxes require MoCa to get TV GUIDE and ON DEMAND/DVR.... these functions WILL NOT WORK when plugging into the TV port side of the MoCa adapters, mainly because it will cause the MoCa adapter to downlink to the slower older MoCa spec of said set top boxes..... but also that means your pc is hogging the single lane, causing the set top box to not get a connection at all, while still forcing my computer to run 1.1...... I can't speak for GoCoax, but its possible the same will happen. IN THIS CASE, all you need is a 2 way splitter that is MoCa certified (5mhz to 1650mhz). This is how I solved this issue. The wall Coax goes to the splitter, one goes to my Motorola Bonded 2.0 box, and the other to my set top box for the living room TV. Works like a charm. This allows the moca adapter to have its own link to the host moca box, and the set top box to get its own link.
Which brings me to my next point. You can mix and match speeds of MoCa. So for example when I was running moca 2.0 NOT bonded. at the time the set top boxes were MoCa 1.0 and my purchased boxes (both host and the one at my pc) are baseline 2.0. My pc would get 2.0 connection confirmed in the firmware, and the set top boxes run their 1.0 speed. Each item gets their own link/lane to the host box. So you wont drop down to 1.0 just because another item is running 1.0. ONLY WHEN using the TV part of these MoCa boxes did I notice the speed for my PC dropping to the slower MoCa 1.0 from the Set Top Boxes (in this case, using the TV port forced my pc down to 1.0, proven again by the firmware when checking). And when I upgraded to 2.0 bonded, my set top boxes happened to have gotten upgraded which are now version 1.1, again, my pc is getting bonded 2.0 connection, and set top boxes are running their 1.1. granted, all speed is shared as I spoke above.
FOR THOSE QUESTIONING GAMING. I am a gamer at heart, MoCa is lightyears better than WiFi, and obviously Ethernet is best. BUT, you wont notice the added latency. On ethernet playing on new york server I would have 5 ping. Because I have MoCa now, I get 9 ping. NOT A HUGE DIFFERENCE. Chicago used to be 25-35, now its 29-39. Again, not a huge gain. WAY BETTER than wifi with packets disappearing, poor jitter, and dropping signal.
ALSO NOTE, if you are on VERIZON FIBER (aka fiber to the home) you DO NOT need the encryption in the home.... because the MoCa signal cannot leave the house. If you have comcast or another COAX based cable tv/internet service, then you will want to get a moca filter to stop the moca from leaving the home. The only time you want encryption is in a business environment as anyone could bring their own moca box and then get onto your secure network.
Thank you for this. This answered a lot of the questions I had at the end of the video.
2.5Gbps TRANSIT
This is an epic write up! Thank you!
If I add these 2.5 Moca boxes to my network and enable encryption, will I have to remove my action tech 2.0 Moca boxes? I don't think my action tech does not have a button to sync to the encryption. Or is encryption sync done in the action tech settings?
@@srdricks468 the real question is, why do you need encryption? it does literally nothing for home users. its the dumbest feature.
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"""MoCA security for cable Internet service comes from either of the following:
Add a PoE filter where the coax cable enters your home. This prevents your MoCA signal from being transmitted to one of your neighbors.
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Program all your MoCA devices with the same MoCA security key.""""
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as long as you have a PoE (point of entry) filter, the encryption is literally useless.
I just installed a couple of these. Be aware that XFinity X1 devices, even the simplest streaming device, is a MoCa device. It would prohibit the synch between the 2 GoCoax devices. If the X1 device was interrupted, then the other two joined, until the X1 device was reset in the middle of the night by Comcast. The solution was to put a second Point of Entry (POE) MoCa filter on the X1 box.
Thanks for the video! I currently live in a 3 story townhouse and 3 of these completed coverage for me. One thing I want to mention for anyone else doing this who is not into networking, your house might have coxial wiring but they may not be connected to each other! I had to call my ISP and they came to install a splitter to connect all the coax. Also the technician had no idea what the moca adapters were, he kept telling me that they won't work because they all have a different MAC address and only one can be in my household. He thought they were mini modems!
I had a similar situation happen to me when I bought my house. I spent countless hours trying to figure why the two devices were not communicating until I finally thought about checking the cable box and voila: all the connections from all rooms were connected to a 8-port splitter with no input from the main coax (?!). So it was just a matter of adding an extra coax cable between the two splitters and it worked like a charm!
This thing is AMAZING!!
Hooked up and old wireless router with Gargoyle firmware and now have my full bandwidth and 4 ethernet ports available!
So easy!! Love this thing!
Thanks!!
Using 2 pairs at home to back-haul traffic from meshed WiFi APs, they're rock solid, and fairly priced (much cheaper than running new Ethernet cables throughout the home). Only caveat: they only support 1GbE on the Ethernet side, even though they support 2.5GbE on the MoCA side. I get it, the 2.5GbE is the max throughput for the whole MoCA network and you can connect plenty of these to the same network and effectively get an aggregate speed of 2.5GbE, but when you use them as point-to-point devices for traffic back-haul, it essentially caps the speed to 1GbE, so the benefit over MoCA 2.0 is nil. Would have loved for GoCoax to offer a version using a 2.5GbE Ethernet chip like say the RTL8226, that would have massively unlocked the potential of the device. Yes, the cost would have gone up, but not massively, the Realtek 2.5GbE chips are cheap, I would have been happy to pay an extra $20 per device to get 2.5GbE back-haul speeds.
Bought 3 of these base on your recommendation. Got home networking at our new home up and running with them while I figured out the Ethernet situation. Turned out phone lines were done with cat 5E so i ended up reterminating those in 6 rooms and eliminating one of these MOCA adapters in the office. Where the TV is I don't have an ethernet jack though so until I run a wire there I am still using gocoax and it is working great! Such a cool technology!
Just changed all the splitters in my house to support MOCA 2.5 and bought these adapters for every Orbi satellite. Backhaul Ethernet and wireless mesh network for 5000 sqft can’t be beaten.
Anyone using these on coax shared with TV service should also install a POE/Low Pass Filter where the cable enters the home. Signal leakage back to the network will affect the quality (and security) of the MoCA connection.
Surprised he didn't mention that. Or how to plug them in. Not too simple for network-naive users.
I got a set of these running from my router upstairs to my entertainment center downstairs. Hooked up the downstairs goCoax to a wireless router and extended the WiFi signal, as well as ethernet to the TV and game consoles. Finally able to stream 4K video on my TV! Thanks again for the info on these.
I am getting my internet connection from ISP through the coax cable, would this still work? I am concerned that using MoCA might mess up my internet. It wasn't an issue for you?
Also, I noticed you have used a router on both end of your MoCA to extend wifi range (that's what I intend to do). It goes smoothly, right?
We love our MOCA. We're running TIVO and TIVO Mini's and it's brilliant.
How did you set it up?
I use MOCA adapters in place of wireless for my streaming devices connected to my TV. They are rock solid compared to wireless and running Ethernet wouldn’t be worth the hassle. I use an HD Homerun Prime with Plex to stream Live TV, so this is a great way to keep the bandwidth demands off of wireless and eliminate buffering. Best thing... connect these adapters to a cheap 4-5 port switch and you can connect your streaming device, TV, video game console, etc with just one MOCA adapter and keep them all off wireless. Bandwidth isn’t a problem and latency is low compared to wireless.
Yep, the less you depend on wifi for streaming, the better, plus that added security is great!
Where your service enters your house or the junction box on the outside of your house you will need to install a POE (point of entry) filter to keep you MOCA from propagating to your neighbors. I have 2 Motorola MOCA adapters and each one came with a POE filter. I have used MOCA to connect two locations where running a CAT5e cable was not feasible but coax was installed when the house was built. A co-worker connected his downstairs to upstairs using MOCA. Funny thing is I found out about MOCA by accident. I was in Best Buy and they had them on the shelf. Being a curious techie I picked up the box and the rest is history. Actiontech makes a Wifi extender (AP) that connects via MOCA the model # is WCB6200Q. Beware there is an earlier MOCA 1.0 version that will limit connectivity to 100Mbps.
I found out about these shortly after I purchased three of the Actiontec 2.0 adapters. I wish I knew earlier because they were not cheap! They are 3x the cost of the Gocoax product. Anyway they've been in operation for over a year now and after a brief issue due to splitters going bad after a storm and bad cable box interaction, its been rock solid for almost a year straight!
Extremely helpful. I'm going MoCA since I have coax in every room of this house.
Thanks for clearing up and testing just about everything I was wondering about. Just ordered a pair :)
Did you get your product?
I ordered a few of these. So far, the company has taken my money, but hasn't acknowledged my order and has not responded to any of my inquiries.
I should have known better than to order directly from a company that doesn't supply a customer service phone number or any method in which to get hold of them electronically.
All they provide is a web form message box, which I've used and they haven't responded.
Man it would've been nice for these to have 2.5 gigabit Ethernet ports. With multi gigabit networking becoming more prevalent, the benefit of moca 2.5 would be realized by more people. At least they're cheaper then the more popular moca 2.0 adapters on Amazon, which is nice. Here's to hoping that more moca 2.5 adapters show up with faster Ethernet ports.
"Not something you get at Starbucks" 😆 I chuckled thoroughly
Very timely! I just bought these having moved into a new home. I have not even set them up yet. I will make sure to observe the splitters.
I was just looking at some of these a few days ago. Thanks for the upload.
Great review! This cleared up a lot of questions I had about MoCA networks. I think I'm gonna pick up a set of these.
I'm great video good stuff question I have and I can't seem to find an answer should we be using 75 ohm cable or will it take 50 ohm cable or does it not matter
bought this last year in October and it works like a charm. Best purchase ive ever made :)
Bold claim
I still have no idea why MoCA isn't better adopted. Google Fiber has used it for their home network setups forever. it's just smart and the best option other than running cat6 everywhere
Holy "Time to get a new computer, Batman!" Those two dinosaurs at the start of the video need upgrading! Ok not really. Brings back memories and wish I owned them. Cheers
awesome review skills!. You have a very clear way of explaining tech terms without being intimidating. I leve that fact tha you backup your comments with clear tests. Specially loved the encrypted bandwidth test. I believe the speed did not get affected as these MOCA standard does hardware-based encryption, which is awesome!. These MOCA devices beat simple short haul fiber connections pricing by A LOT! Back in the Day there were Coax based networking but the speed was 10MB/s (Anyone remember ThinNet and ThickNet). I personally believe MOCA is going to disrupt Multi-mode fiber at least for small office environments. Hopefully the big network players get on the MOCA bandwagon so we could start seeing network switches with built-in 2.5 MOCA ports. Sorry if I get too nerdy, is just that I'm genuinely excited to learn that Coax is back with a "Gigab-engeance " LOL
Sounds good but I have 2 questions. I recently replaced my cable boxes (3) with Roku but still get TV from Spectrum (using the Spectrum app on Roku). I have 6 runs of coax to various rooms from the main splitter in the basement (where the cable feed comes in). 5 are now dark (nothing attached) but 1 is still live for the internet feed (from Spectrum). If I understand, I could use one of these devices in the den (where the modem / router are). I would go from the wall to the GoCoax. I would then go from the "TV out" on the GoCoax to my modem. Then I would use an ethernet cable from my router (LAN port) back to the GoCoax.
Step 2. In the living room (where I would want to put the second GoCoax) I would connect the GoCoax to the Coax outlet in that room and connect the device I wanted "hard-wired" in that room via an ethernet cable.
Here are the questions... 1. The coax outlet in the den would be able to handle the feed to the router AND the feed back of the ethernet to the coax wiring in the house?
2. The feed into the house goes into a splitter with 6 outlets (one for each run). I still need the feed from the cable company to go into the "in" jack on the splitter and the run to the den attached to one of the "out" jacks. This is going to work even though the feed from the device in the den is NOT going into the "in" on the splitter in the basement?
Great explanation otherwise and thank you!
$59 a piece sounds cheap for those. A pair of Actiontec would set you back $149 depending on where you get them. If you have a Verizon Actiontec router you may already have MoCA adapters and not realize it. You would need another adapter or router if you only have one. Make sure the store you get these from will take them back if you can't for some reason get them to work.
I've been doing a lot of research on whether a moca network would work at my house, currently have cable internet (comcrap). According to amazon reviews the cable tv pass-through also works directly to a modem effectively injecting the line with moca. I've been looking for an answer to this and to how splitters might work on a single coax line (because I only have one line at the point that i could attach ethernet to the moca device), and have found varying answers and nothing much conclusive. Thought you might like to know, I think your viewers might also appreciate that info.
Yes, the cable TV out works for modems, these use a diplexer splitter so only the 5-1000mhz (iirc) goes to the TV and everything else goes to the moCA chip
Did you ever test older devices with multiple newer ones? You tested 2.5 to 2.0 (1.3gbit max) at 12:30 and got 900mbit, but didn't seem to simultaneously test a bunch more? My impression was that when your 1.3gbit has 900mbit being used (70% of max speed), you only have 30% of the "transmission time" remaining - which if a link is 3.6gbit, is probably still enough for 900mbit+, since 3.6 * 0.3 is 1.08gbit - but what if you mixed an older 200mbit adapter in? If you try to push 1gbit over two MOCA 2.5 adapters and max out the older 200mbit adapter, how does the available speed get split? I'd think the older adapter would "tie up the coax lines" longer and drain 33-50% of the speed, leaving just barely enough for the newer adapters to go full throttle, but leaving the older adapter with a severe performance hit? If you had a mix of adapter speeds, it'd be the worst, since the MOCA 2.0 adapters already use a lot of their "transmission time" to reach full speed. With mostly 2.5 devices, it seems to be less of an issue?
Great video, Lon! I think I might try a pair of these to connect my bedroom Apple TV. It struggles with Wi-Fi at times and I even have a mesh network!
Informative tutorial. Thank you.
One thing you didn't explain was how to plug them in. Specifically regarding coax wall and modem/router (and their corresponding ports).
Might seem obvious for networkers but... I bought 2 of these and something's wrong with me cause I have no idea what I'm doing.
This is covered in my other MOCA videos - lon.tv/moca - I might do a more concise tutorial in the future
You're right. Most people they want to see how to connect. But I see most of the video they talk a lot but they forgot 1 main thing
You showed throughput testing after enabling encryption but not latency testing. I would expect processing of the packets to encrypt and decrypt them might increase latency even if it doesn't affect throughput.
With WiFi6 now able to exceed 1Gbps it would be nice to adapters with 2.5Gbps ethernet ports for the connecting WiFi APs use case.
I'll double check on the latency!
hey i was wondering if i have a Coax cable running to my Cox panoramic wifi downstairs, can i put a splitter on that coax cable and connect the MoCa , and then connect the Ethernet directly to the modem ? would that interfere with anything?
Have actiontec ecb6250 and when enabling mps with the d-ext band on both the devices, the coax light doesn’t show and they can’t communicate. Any ideas? They work fine without encryption.
I too have Direct TV and have Mediacom for internet. I called Mediacom and they said because I don’t have TV, I cant use cable as MOAC...Is this true, seems like cable is there, why not??
I am no expert, but that sounds irrelevant... This is using the coax in your home as the backbone and you would be feeding your internet via Ethernet from your router/switch into the adapter and through the walls using the coax.
@@KevinDouglas11 I believe the moca adapters are unable to separate the DirectTV sat signal in the same way they can a cable TV signal. The internet portion is going to work, but it seems like you'd be sacrificing your Sat TV service.
My internet and cable tv sockets are separated. I have cable tv everywhere, but the internet is not. How to connect the MoCA? Only to tv and it gets internet from the modem/router or do I have to go for internet socket and t-split it to the tv tree?
i think thats wroung . Its from the wall to the bottom port called moca in to the box . The box then splits the tv singel and internet anpart and sends the internet tho the lan part and sends the tv singel out of the tv output that says tv . Its like an Coax to lan the old internet that uses tv cable its like that . So it mixes the tv singal and your internet together down one copper line and it pulls it an part at the other side .
If one of my adapters is connected to my wifi cable modem, 20 feet away from my desktop, how do I connect the 2nd one to the desktop?
Hi Lon, Very informative and well explained videos. Thanks! I have a question, Can a video and audio signal be sent over a Moca network?
Your main house powered distribution amp and your splitters all need to be MOCA compliant splitters. You also need a MoCA terminator at your point of entry in your house; keeping in mind that many MoCA distibution amps have MoCA filters already in them such as the PPC-9m-u/u-ps and the PCT -VC-F19AUPI.
The popular MoCA Commscope units provided by Comcast, Spectrum etc usually DO NOT have terminators in them. You would need to check to see if your cable provider installed a terminator at your outside box, otherwise buy one for $5 and install on the cable inlet on your distribution amp.
Unpowered splitters suck. Avoid them.
It’s a let down that they don’t have 2.5 gbps ports to hook up to my orbi WiFi 6 satallites. I have 2 gbps symmetric service from Comcast so I would’ve been able to take advantage.
Just run 10g Ethernet or 10g fiber
Probably a dumb question given filter placement has been covered before, but I am just starting to look into a MoCA network in my apartment and I found the main cable drop which is split 8 ways (2 coax drops per each of 4 rooms). One of the lines on the splitter has a filter on it, but it is not on the main line. I believe this is how the ISP/Cable company installed it for multi-room DVR. Do I need to move the filter to the main line leading into the splitter, or can I leave it on one of the lines after the split?
I have a deco x60 wired from a 1gb 5port switch two floors below that is fed from a 2.0 moca adapter, am I creating a bottleneck for this deco? Will a direct connection to its own dedicated moca adapter fulfill the deco x60's potential?
Great review. I want to use this at 3 locations. How do I activate security using buttons?
While the "poor" cable company won't like it, can I use this to share Internet with my brother living in same condo building? To achieve user to user security, is vlan the only method?
the unit does encryption, so no need to created a tunnel, which is what a VLAN is. I'd check the repeater type/taps that the building owner or cable Co. installed at your apt. complex, as those might not support beyond 1000Mhz....
My 2 cents...
This might be considered cable service theft depending on local laws.
But then again you can acconplosh the same thing by using a wifi mesh network with your condo neighbor and that "isn't" theft.
@@lakorai2 Actually, to avoid Internet theft I would not use the cable company’s Internet but rather another vendor who allows distribution. Legal is very important. Using a mesh system to share internet from apartment to apartment IS illegal because they don’t care if it is copper or radio transmission, they will prosecute. Cable companies are despicable money grabbers.
Just a quick question is the TV both in and out? As in if I want to send TV signal to other floors to TV. I would hook one to the cable box / antenna and then just use the other unit connect the TV to the TV section? Is that correct.
Just bought four of these because of your review - I really enjoy the channel. Thanks so much for covering these! I'm interested in cheap 10gb or multi-gb ethernet home networking hardware.
My MoCA light turns off for hours at a time and I have to default to a much slower connection over Wi-Fi. I cannot figure out why it works sometime and other times it doesn't. Quite frustrating tbh.
I just wasted half a day today trying to get these goCoax adapter to work. First of all, the manual for the encryption pairing is a joke. It says "press the MPS button on the two devices", I google and there is no answer of how to do it, am I suppose to press them BOTH at the SAME TIME? I press and hold the button, but like you said, there is no indication of when to run over to the other room to pair. I was running around the house like a mad person to try the encryption work, and I gave up. I then let it run in unencrypted mode. When I stream a movie from my office NAS to the living, a few minutes in and the adapter got disconnected. The adapter in my office has the "Moca" light goes dark. Google the hell out of it and no one has answer. At the admin page, the Link Status is "Down". I want to take a hammer and smash this thing! I emailed the support, given that it's a weekend, I will have to leave all the cable all over the place until I get answer next week. I wish this is a plug and play device.
Check your splitters and make sure the cables are securely attached
"First of all, the manual for the encryption pairing is a joke."
"I wish this is a plug and play device."
I agree. The manual isn't a manual at all. It's got 1 diagram, how to connect to a computer. That's it. It doesn't explain how to connect them to the router/modem (a diagram would help), do I connect it before the modem or after, how does a router factor in, which plugs go where, it doesn't say anything about splitters, it doesn't say shit about a POA filter, the manual is incomplete...
Try this to check the devices work to begin with:
1. Connect adapter1 ethernet cable to router LAN (1 of 4 ports).
2. Connect adapter1 coax out ("TV") cable to adapter2 coax in ("MOCA").
3. Connect adapter2 ethernet cable to PC.
4. Plug in power adapters.
5. Change LAN IP address on computer (TCP/IPv4) in Windows/Mac to: 192.168.254.10. Subnet: 255.255.255.0.
6. Open browser. Go to: 192.168.254.254. (manual explains this)
7. This should let you check if they're working to begin with with your coax.
8. Now try moving one to another area. Splitters need to be over >1000Mhz (specific MOCA splitters).
I haven't gottem them to work across 2 rooms either...
@@LonSeidman Support got back to me, it's very frustrating. They tell me WHAT to do, but never explain HOW to do. A lot of emails go back and forth. They wanted me to connect the adapter directly to each other and go to the management site to check the link rate. They never mention that I have to set the computer to a static IP address in order for me to be able to get to the 192.168.254.254 management site. Anyway, just be warn, this is not as easy as it seams, too many failing points. There are different ways to connect your cable modem depends if your modem is DOCSIS 3.0 or DOCSIS 3.1. If the modem is DOCSIS 3.1, then you need a coax splitter, if it's DOCSIS3.0, the TV out of the adapter can be connected to the modem and reduce the use of splitter (remove a potential failer point). My whole house splitter is the 5-1000Mhz type, so I need to buy a new splitter. But then, I still never get answer from support why I was able to stream movie for a few minutes then get disconnect if the splitter is at fault.
neither MoCa light is turning on solid but when I unplug the power and back in, it lights up for only a moment.
also the one that has its ethernet plugged into the router doesnt have the light on, but it is also plugged into the tv which is indeed giving signal.
am i running it through the wrong coax cable? should it be plugged into the cable currently in the modem? should the ethernet be directly plugged into the modem?
Thanks. How about checking g.hn coax adapters?
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Powerline works BEST when you install them on 2 electrical circuits that do not have anything plugged into them. Which is virtually impossible to do in most homes.
#1 all the electrical outlets in your average 10x10 room are all on the same breaker. So in a 10x10 room you should only have 4 electrical outlets. All 4 are connected to one breaker. So that right there kills the efficiency of the powerline adaptor because you WILL have things plugged into any of those 4 outlets which are pulling CURRENT which is what HURTS the powerline signal .. It does work but your speed will suffer once current starts to flow on that circuit.
To find 2 dedicated electrical outlets (powerline transmitter & receiver) going back to the breakers with NOTHING else plugged in where you NEED it is virtually impossible ....
Even with your modem plugged into the same electrical circuit where your transmitter is, because it WILL BE in the same room, that will hurt your speed. Your receiver will be in another room on the other side of the house plugged in along with a TV or Game system or desktop on the same electrical circuit, that will also hurt your speed.
So this is used if you cannot get a cat5 wire over to where you need it because you don't know how or you can't do it because you don't see a pathway or you can run the wire but just don't know how to terminate the ends ...
There is ALWAYS a way to get a wire to where you want it, its just how pretty you want it to look or how much trouble you want to go thru to get that wire ran ..
I got a 10x24 shed in my back yard and i got 120V 20A power with Cat5E and RG6 solid copper out to it. 150FT from my switch and 140FT from the breaker ... Up the walls, thru and across the entire attic, conduit on side of house to a junction box, then buried in conduit out to the shed to another junction box and into the shed... Got my cable box (fed with RG6) with 40 inch smart TV (fed by LAN) and my Laptop also fed by LAN, CAT5E split in 2 pairs.
Powerline and MoCA no thanks ... I'll run the actual wire i need :-)
Can I use this device on a router.. meaning.. from router LAN port ----->Extender--->Extender---->another computer in another room that has Coax jack?
so easy way is that its like the coax make an C shape the viedo goes into the bottom and comes out the top . Also the cable has internet with it . that goes both ways it goes too the lan port
Is it possible for me to use these adapters while I have my isp cable modem hooked up to my nighthawk router in bridge mode?
Don't use the cheap splitters. Look for Sweep that is higher than 1000 Mhz. Ask your cable company for a new one to add in, those are tested and will work.
Would I need a splitter if I'm only using the coax for my Moca adapter? Set up would be PoE filter on coax to my Moca adapter then coax to my Modem then ethernet to my router. Looking to get a couple Moca Adapters to set up a ethernet port in a room with bad signal strength using the coax already running to that room, and we no longer use Cable tv so not sure if I would need a splitter or not in that case
I would like to convert DTV cable to use these. How does direct TV work with his system?
Moac light not turning on suggested trouble shooting ideas. My setup is from the wall to the router no TV connection.
I have two of these adapters set up on my network correctly I'm assuming. How do I find the configuration page? The 254 address does not work. It's not a big deal as everything seems to be working
HELP
I bought this adapter and I'm having trouble setting it up. There is no setup guide video that show how to use the website on first install.
My problem is, I changed my PC's Ethernet IP connection to one in the suggested range. When I open the device website, my status is down. What is the reasoning for this? Is there more I need to do?
Wow, great video. I have a couple of questions; I am using my old TV Cable coax cable wiring to bring in my Internet signal from WOW, I am receiving 200 Mbps on my PC. I have the input of the Internet signal via coax cable to my modem/router and connected to my PC. Then I have Wi Fi sending signal to 3 x Android TV boxes, but the I get only 10-20-30 Mbps in my Android boxes (3). I am suffering of a lot of buffering especially streaming movies. My question is, can I use these MOCA 2.5 boxes to connect to my Internet signal? How do you recommend to set it up? I appreciate your feedback. Thanks a million!
Do i need to configure both moca devices or one is ok? If both moca are configure do they had to have the same ip address and password on both
Hey guys...I purchased two of these, plugged them in but no lan or mica light came on. All I had was the power light...any advice will help?
Also, Direct TV uses Ethernet split into 2 ports on modem???
Do you know if these are the same as the frontier moca FCA251? I was looking to get the goCoax MoCA 2.5 Adapter with 2.5GbE Ethernet Port but I have the Frontier FCA251 currently and was looking for an upgrade. Thank you for the video
thank you for the video. will this work with Directv?
Question: We have a digital antenna which exits to coax. Can we hook a MoCa transmitter to the digital antenna and the MoCa receiver to the back of our television to receive digital television?
I don't think Moca plays well with antennas.
Riddle me this, I'm on Frontier FiOS. Voice/Internet/TV. I also have two MoCa bridges set up throughout my house, they are both wcb6200q. Could I essentially get rid of my G1100 router, use something much better, connect it with a GoCoax MoCa 2.5, replace my two wcb6200q bridges with two more GoCoax MoCa 2.5 bridges and still have proper TV Guide access on my FiOS TV? If so, what would I use for my connection from my ONT to my router? Ethernet or Coax?
Hello Lon, Thank you for videos on Moca technology. I was wondering since moca 2.5 adapters are available should I replace my current 2.0 adapters? I use them in my home to feed my deco mesh access points x20 and x60 with wired backhaul.
If you have a need to go beyond a gigabit then yes - but otherwise I think the 2.0's are fine for now. The 2.5's also have some additional configuration needed for those running DOCSIS 3.1 modems.
Have you used a --parallel option with iperf3 (wifiperf)? How did you get that speed with the single threaded test?
So if I'm plugging this in at my modem and router, do I have to have the modem plugged to the adapter as well, or can I just have the ethernet from the router going to the adapter?
what if the cabling is present but I dont have cable? can I still use this to make an access point?
Can I use this from the Verizon ONT box Ethernet port to Coax and on the other side Coax to ethernet to my router?
Good question! That’s what I’m trying to do. Did you ever find out?
@@romancluber no... i even posted the question on Verizon Forums and no one got back to me.
I use action tech 2.0 Moca with the Verizon ONT and eliminated the need for the Verizon modem (No monthly rental charge) . The ONT coaxial plugs into my action tech. The Ethernet port from my action tech is plugged into the WAN port of my Asus router. I have a second action tech in a room with a PC and it works perfectly via the Moca network. I use Tivo boxes rather than pay for Verizon boxes monthly. My TiVo boxes utilize the Moca network without issue. I don't know about the new 2.5 Moca but I assume it works the same with the exception of needing to check for Moca compliment splitters.
romancluber It works
Yes. Just set up mine this pass week and it works perfectly.
My question is if I can use deca together with the product, so I can send signal with mocha and receive with deca 2 oh 3 thanks
If my initial internet entering my home already comes via coaxial, do I split the coax before it gets to my modem and run it back to said splitter to reach the rest of my house?
Why are these not available in Europe?
What would happen if you change the lof on the control page? Also what is preferred nc?
Good morning Lon! What software did you use to test the LAN speed on the MOCA network? I am setting one up here at home and want to test the pre and post speeds and ten when I get TDS fiber installed, do it all over again. Thanks!
Great comprehensive review!!
I just found out about this stuff. I’m so doing this. More research I’m doing.
Getting a double nat type when connecting night hawk xr7000 router to go coax any solutions to this ?
Wow great video!!! Very helpful information
So what if you’re cable modem says it has moca inside the software. Mine has a moca tab in it. Just wondering if I could just use one with the cable modem?
Yes although typically the modems with MOCA built in are running at slower 100 megabit speeds.
what happens to latency when you enable encryption? or latency when you have a moca 2.0 device?
we want to see how you hook it up to the main
Can this go back into the co ax connection that the modem is connected to with a splitter?
What software is used to test network speeds? Your router utility?
I'm looking for something simpler than iPerf3 . . ??
will this interfere with pvr settup box play on any tv, and same question about cable internet?
Anyone know what the maximum distance is for these devices? I looked at the Mfg website, but the datasheet did not have the info in it. Also wonder if you could hookup to your neighbors network if you both had one of these devices?
It is possible to bridge to your neighbor, but you would have to run a coax line to their building. At that point you might as well just run CAT6a or Single Mode fiber.
Will This work with Directv only the Motorola moca 1.0 worked before I used the old ones from Motorola
What application are you using to do the speed tests?
My internet comes into the house via coax. You mention only tv in the review.
Is one able to split the internet line coming into the house (one end into my ISP modem & the other end into the mica device?
Can internet signal from ISP coming into the house co exist on the same line that's getting sent to the other mica device etc?
Yes that was what I was doing here they run on different frequenices.
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Thanks!
@5:00 Hey Lon, What Logitech hybrid keyboard are you using?
The K400 that I have stinks :(
Gr8 video. What program do you use to run iperf type of speedtests?
I use WiFiperf on the Mac - really nice interface for iperf tests
I’ve been trying to figure out do I need to buy 2 of these? I have telus wifi hub that has built in moca, can I just screw in coax into the wifi hub to the wall and then use this adapter in another room that has moca port? Then plug lan cable from Adapter to my ps4
Best way to find out is to buy one and see if it connects. The Telus might be on Moca 1.0 which is only 100 megabits per second so you'll be assured of faster speeds with two.
Is this compatible with other brand MoCA devices? i.e, actiontec?
Hi Lon , i got these two adapters but for some reason lan streaming of 60 gb uhd atmos rips is just not working. It is connected to my Shield TV. I use Kodi for playback. Any ideas why ? Does it work for you ?
See some of my other MOCA videos, without knowing your setup it's hard to trouble shoot. More than likely you have the wrong splitters running, bad cables, interference, etc.: lon.tv/moca
Will this work if I have Dish Network running on the coax?
Would love to know which speed test software you are using on the computers...
It's called WifiPerf which sadly isn't available any longer. It was a GUI version of the free iPerf command line utility.
I have no cable TV in our house and everything is streaming online. My ISP provider uses a cable modem for Internet. I'm confused on how I would install this where my wifi6 router/cable modem is installed at if there is only one input of coax in my office.
The 2nd MoCa adapter will be connected to my media server/pc in another part of the house.
You would connect a cable between the wall coax outlet and the MoCA port on the device. Then you would connect the other cable between the router/modem to the TV port on the device. The TV port is just a pass through for your service provider. MoCA uses a higher frequency around 1250 MHz and above (I can't remember off the top of my head), while the TV and internet from your provider uses frequencies below that. So even though it says TV on the port, its really more of a TV/Modem port. I use mine in the way described and it works great.
@@shadowdragon1248 Thank you so much. That makes sense. I'll order one and give it a try. Appreciate it.
Can you become vulnerable seeing that your line coming into the house is being branched off a main trunk line that goes to all of my neighbors. Is this a problem, can something be done to keep my network safe? Someone mentioned a POE filter at the point of coming into the house? Also, my speeds are 400 down and 30 up.... would i need to change my splitters 5-1002Mhz?
Yes the filter will prevent the signal from going outside the home
@@LonSeidman, what about using the existing 5-1002mhz splitters, can they be used?