Translite MoCA 2.5 Network Extender Review - 2.5 gigabits with two ethernet ports
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- čas přidán 14. 07. 2024
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VIDEO INDEX:
0:00 - Intro
01:50 - Hardware Overview
02:39 - Ports
03:34 - Setup
04:00 - Splitter recommendations
05:08 - Initial Connection
07:02 - Speed Test - Single ethernet jack
07:38 - Speed Test - Both ethernet jacks
08:53 - Web based Control Panel
10:13 - Connecting multiple MoCA 1.0, 2.0 and 2.5 devices
11:22 - Conclusion
12:36 - Latency discussion
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Have been watching a number of your videos & really enjoy them. As a suggestion with your product you're displaying would be a "setup diagram" something to show your wiring, coax wiring attachments from component to component. Thanks
Thanks for bringing these to our attention! I first followed your channel for HomerunHD and Plex, and we currently enjoy both of those (and your suggestions related to both items) in our house!
Unfortunately, the only coax in my office is in the closet on the other end of the room... #DERP
this is slick. Exactly what I need because my son is complaining about the wifi in the basement ... I do have coax on which I am running satellite to both locations but would be a total PIA to try and run ethernet from where the cable modem and router are located . A little more studying and this is the way I am going to go . This is really cool technology .
For the really paranoid and/or have an over the air antenna. You should get a MoCA POE Filter so MoCA signals don't leave your home or actually BROADCAST out of your over the air antenna.
Good review... I have these and this was my experience as well!
I really like that these have two ethernet outputs on them. You could have one output going to a game console, and another going to a smart tv. Or two game consoles hooked up and getting full 1gb bandwidth from a router that is far away. Or one connection going to a smart tv and the other to a wireless router to extend the range for other devices. Lots of good options over only having one output!
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Can't you just use an ethernet switch?
@@FieryMeltman Yeah you can get a 5 port gigabit switch for like $15. The 2 ethernet ports on this product add no value.
Thank you for this review, I was cheap when I built my house a few years ago and didn't install ethernet cables coz I thought we all use wifi nowadays but then I started playing Call of Duty Multiplayer where speed is king so I'll have 1 port plugged into my PS5 and the other for mesh router. Can you actually do a test where you set it up with your ISP modem?
Hey Lon
You've mentioned Jitsi in a few of your previous videos and thought that it seemed like a good alternative to zoom, mainly due to privacy concerns.
I was wondering if you've considered setting up your own Jitsi server, and how difficult something like that might be for the avg user.
I was thinking about doing a video on it - it might be easy to do although I’m sure trickier when you’re trying to operate inside a firewall.
@@LonSeidman A video on it would be a great idea, there are not very many tutorials on it. Even the one Jitsi has posted is somewhat confusing, in my opinion that is.
Thanks for the reply and keep up the great work!
Hi Lon, How does it work with a Coax Amplifier? Did you test that also?
Great video...
I have Eero Pro (3x units) at home. Could you please explain as to how I can take advantage of MOCA and connect the eero routers (without hard wiring)?
Really would like to see step by step setup of ethernet adjustments that have to be made on your computer. I have seen a couple of videos where people are making the adjustments but steps are missing. At this point I have 2 devices I am about to return if I can't figure out the ethernet adjustments and the impact they will have in my other devices.
There shouldn’t be any Ethernet settings adjustments needed. The issue is likely on the coax whatever it is you are experiencing
Lon, Congrats on a well planned and executed effort !! I have a question re: Moca in general. 1) Am I getting it right that the first Moca box has to be connected to the Cable Modem via the ethernet port or other device, but then the Coax output from the Moca adapter has to be connected to another, different Coax wall outlet? Most houses don't have 2 Coax wall outlets in the same room at all, and if they do, they are not close to each other. Am I getting this right? At the best, it seems to me, you have to lay a long Coax cable or Ethernet wire along the baseboard to get to the other Coax outlet. Our house was built in 1995 or so, and this is the case for us. What do you think ? 2) Could you use a splitter to connect the 1st Moca box back through the same single Coax outlet that you came from? I'm sure I'm out of my depth here. Again, thanks for a great channel !!! Jack
No, you would use the one wall jack. That would connect to the moca adapter, which has 2 coaxial ports. The other port would be used to connect the adapter to your cable modem. So it goes wall to moca, and moca to modem. Hope that helps.
@@dancecho Thank you, Daniel. I actually ordered the latest unit from Actiontec, but they have removed the 2nd Coax input/output from their newest 2.5 device, and now recommend using a 2 way splitter instead (??). I told them no thanks, and now I'm checking out other choices from other suppliers. Thanks for getting back !!!! Jack
Hello,
Thank you for this video. Question, does this moca work with FIOS and which model do you use for your splitter?
Thank you
Is it possible connect one these moca adapter to gocoax moca adapter and get full speed connection? Could you please explain what does bonded devices mean? It is possible to split bounded adapters and connect them with other adapters?
I have a question for you. I currently have in my home the COX Panoramic Router/Modem and i wanted to try to connect my Actiontec ECB6200 8i have 2 of them and my ECB 3500T01. My question is since my panoramic device is moca enabled do i need to connect one of the ECB6200 to the panoramic via CAT 5 for the whole system to work or will i be able to just plus all devices around the house?
Hey Lon, any idea when the Moca 2.5 devices with 2.5GbE ports will be out there?
If the modem already taken up the outlet as a input. In order to feed it back, you would need a output coxial cable line to extend to another room. Unless it has duplex split to combine one coxial?
Exactly, you use the other COAX on the backside of the device for the TV/ Cable modem. It's NOT supposed to mess with cable/TV/internet. I have Over the Air TV running with it and it works just fine.
Hey Lon great video! However I get really confused when setting up the moca adapter near my modem/router combo. As of right now, my only coaxial jack is plugged into my modem/router combo. I’m quite confused how I connect the 1st moca adapter to my router.
Connect the existing coaxial cable from your wall jack to your moca adapter, then get another coaxial cable and connect it from the moca adapter to your cable modem/router. There should also be an ethernet cable connection from the moca adapter to the modem/router. Then the second moca adapter (presumably in another room) is connected to another coaxial wall jack, then connected to your PC via ethernet cable.
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Anyone have any idea about the default (as-shipped) IP address and login information for these? I didn't get a manual when I got mine.
Just a quick question, does it also send the TV signal to the rest of the house via Coax or only the Ethernet data? Also other than a high bandwidth splitter why do we need power passed splitters, or can one just use a simple high bandwidth splitter 5-2300Mhz without power pass to all ports? I have tried reading the MoCA standard and there is no mention of using power.
Using a single, short, dedicated coax cable to communicate between two devices in the same room has got to be the best-case scenario. How about demo'ing bandwidth and response time between devices on opposite sides of (say) your house, across one or two splitters?
I have done that in previous MoCA videos - generally it works well. My challenge with 2.5 over longer distances is that I have older splitters in use which weaken its performance.
Can you setup Link aggregation on your Router and Switch Side ..... To get a 2GBPS single back bone?
I would assume so....
I purchased the Translite MC84 and connected both of the adapters. However, I could not get a TV signal nor could I get an internet connection from the second adapter in my remote room. I sent Translite a diagram of my connections. They responded that they "have confirmed that all connections are accurate". They suggested that I check if all coax connections are connected firmly. I did that but still not successful in the remote room. Has anyone encountered this problem? Any thoughts or suggestions?
Thank you for the info.
Do you know if these adapters work wel with MoCA enabled modem / gateways which are in market these days?
i think Xfinity modems hav MoCA technology in-built.
Yes they should if MOCA is enabled on the gateway. Note though speeds will vary based on what MoCA version the gateway supports.
Question: I have cable internet at my house but I have a ethernet router. Can I use this to convert my cable to my wireless router? will I lose any speed? Or is there any cheaper to convert with?
I have a question, the Coax for my internet is right by my router. Do I need to split the Coax first? 1 Coax into the router and then connect the MoCA to the other Coax? Then connect the router to the MoCA device via Ethernet?
The moCA adaptar comes with a splitter connect your modem into the coax out on the moCA adaptar and then run an Ethernet wire from your router into the adapter
On the receiving end of the Moca, can you connect a ethernet hub (for my home theater components)?
Bit late answer, but sure. Nowadays you can't really buy a hub but a switch.
Do you think i can connect gocoax and translite together ? I already have gocoax, i want to get translite due to the 2 LAN port
whats the led on the right of all the others for? it was the only one that wasn't on.
Shouldn’t there be a POE Filter between the MoCA adapter and the Modem to prevent feedback ?
And another at the primary coaxial point of entry into the dwelling ?
Just curious, since I am about to do a similar setting.
Thanks for the video.
As long as you use the coax-out as the source for the modem, no
Lon Just went out to Amazon they say it is not available and don’t know if it ever will be. What going on??
So if I have only 300Mgb coming into this MOCA device... Will it split that between the ethernet connections? So I will get 150Mgb on either ethernet connection if they are being used at the same time?
Can you plug a switch into one of the LAN ports and then plug multiple devices into the switch?
Steven Walters Yes, 100%
I thought it was odd how when I saw this yesterday it had low view/like count compared to your other videos. I guess it wasn't public?
wasn't public yet
Hi Lon I went to the Amazon link that you posted in the video description when I look at the picture on Amazon for this device on the back there is no WPS button just a reset button the one on Amazon is at the same make and model as the one in your on boxing and review?
I was confused by that too - they told me the shipping model has that button as the WPS now.
Actually, it should be labeled "MPS" as pictured in the video ....
For "MoCA Protected Setup."
Not "WPS", which means "WiFi Protected Setup." .... 😉 ...
@@LonSeidman Thank's :-)
In my cable coax box the cable line goes into a splitter with only one other coax line attached. It is labeled living room where my modem is connected to that coax wall port (living room). If I want to run moca in my other rooms do I need to get a bigger splitter and hook up the other unattached coax cables labeled bedroom 1, loft etc and attach those to the splitter also so there is a connection like the living room cable is connected?
For moCA to work all adapters need to be connected at a splitter so id recommend buying a bigger splitter and having everything connected to that
You may need to buy an amp for your cable TV/ internet however because of the splitter reducing the signal
My ISP delivers internet over coaxial. However can I use MOCA to also multiplex the ethernet signals so that I can spread the signal via appropriate splitters to my bedroom?
Yes it uses different frequencies.
What is the iperf application you are using on your MacBook?
I had these with my fios system. BUT is not coax have a speed limit about 500megbytes a sec.
Do you know if the splitters for moca have to work in both directions?
you mentioned around minute 4:50 about the splitters; that they have to support a certain frequency, is that the same case for a coupler? does the couplee have to be 2500+ ghz?
If you're talking about just a gender changer coupler (female-female) you should be ok.
Have you tried different brands on the same network ie. goCoax and Translite? I'm interested in getting a pair of 2 Ethernet port Translite for a location where I need 2 ports but a less expensive 1 port brand for a location where I only need 1 port. Thanks for the in-depth reviews...
Yes I tested with a translite and an actiontec 2.0 device. I think the guys of the translite and the go coax are the same so they should work fine together
Definitely better than running ethernet to every room in the house! Unfortunatly I dont think I can use them in my setup. I have cable internet but all the coax cable in my house is connected to my antenna outside so I dont think these would work with my setup
Yes it will because it takes your modem signal and sends it in your coax network. Theres no link with the antenna, althought you coulg need a filter
Really like internet thank you information
Thank you your review on MoCA 2.5 Network Extender it's great help. My question is If I wanted to connect Synology NAS Network using MoCA to have would it work! @lon.TV
Why not? I would use Ethernet channel bonding on the Synlology and the connected switch realize the full potential of the Moca 2.5 get 2gb/s throughtput. Almost all managed switches support some form of Link aggregation. Don't get confused with the channel bonding on the MOCA side with the bonding on the Ethernet side. It looks like Synology supports LACP as well as Adaptive Load Balancing (works on any switch).
Could you use just one device? The coax cable out from the modem goes in the moca and out comes Ethernet? Is it possible?
Some Comcast gateways have moca built in but these are not using the docsis standard your cable modem uses . Different frequencies
I have a number of version 2 MoCA devices that can transfer up to 100 megabytes of download and 10 megabytes of upload. I wanted to know if it is possible to replace the main MoCA and another one in another room
And I also wanted to know what is the upload speed of this model?
Most people have tv's and boxes that dont even carry gigabit but 10/100 ! For these moca will just make a more stable connection, but defin8telynot faster !
MoCA isn't just for connecting a tv. You can also use it to connect any wired ethernet equipment such as a NAS or a PC or a backhaul for wireless mesh.
@@travis1240 your comment is stupid. I talk about connecting an ethernet to a smart tv by moca. The fact is that most tvs dont support gigabitvetgernet
I have a powered splitter that goes into all rooms of the home. Can I run moca to home splitter to have it throughout whole home?
You need to make sure it supports the MoCA frequencies on both send and receive.
Can you have multiple units(3-4) like the gocoax??
Yes same number supported
Hi, this looks pretty interesting.
How does it compare to the Comtrend GCA-6000KIT can I get the same speed with both?
Comtrend will not co-exist with cable tv , MOCA is better
@@LonSeidman Thanks for the fast reply, I don't have cable tv so it will be for the internet only.
I have a shed where I want to send my internet which is approximately 100meters away so if either can do that without dropping speed that will be great
I just bought the splitter you have because I realize my splitter doesn't have as high of frequency range. Hoping it fixes my issues. Are there splitters usually inside the walls (cannot access those as we are renting a home atm).
Sometimes there are - my house had way too many when I moved in.
@@LonSeidman The splitter is arriving Thursday. In the meantime, I installed a MoCA POE filter to the box (the only access I have to cable/utility box is outside). So far so good. Didn't seem to change SNR or Power. I do see that the outside splitter is only 5-1000 Mhz. Hoping I don't need to replace that as well. I will test Thursday.
Hi Lon, another great video...could you tell me what the name of the software that you are using to run the iperf test. I'd like to test my home network around the house to my Macs. Do you have a link by chance --Thanks
It’s called WiFiperf and it’s free in the Mac App Store ! They have endpoints for other platforms on their website.
@@LonSeidman Thanks Lon.
I wonder why none of these MoCA 2.5 units have 2.5GBASE-T ethernet ports on them, it just seems like the two would go hand in hand. 2.5Gbps through the coax and 2.5Gbps pushed through to the ethernet side of things. I know that that 2.5Gbps on the coax side of things is shared but if you only have 2 adapters you're going to get that full speed.
Likely because the reference design only included a 1GigE phy.
I have DSL, I am assuming MOCA will only work if you have cable internet?
it will work on any cable tv coax you have in your house the internet service is not part of this.
If you have u-verse tv (one type of dsl including tv service) the installers may have already used the coax for that, and in that case you can't use moca because u-verse uses the competing (and much worse) standard HomePNA. I have u-verse internet only and run moca past the router. It works great but it did confuse the ATT installer who came to upgrade the router. ;)
I have coax everywhere In the house but is it required to have cable tv to actually use the moca setup?
No cable tv service required
Lon.TV I have a modem + router setup right now. Would the moca adapter simply replace the existing modem?
Can I use these if I'm using my coaxial for cable? Or does my coaxial have to be dorment?
He covered that in the video.
No, you can use it along side cable.
Hi there,
I have a pair of these ones.
with iperf3 on Windows 10, i had only 300Mbits/s. The command used was iperf3.exe -c xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx -V
Are you using parallel connection with your tool ?
After adding the parameter -P 5, I had 945Mbit/s cumulated.
If i set the TCP windows in iperf3 with -w 1M (no parallel session), i have again 945Mbit/s.
So is there any trouble with SYNC/ACK with Moca Adapter ?
Windows has an auto-tune for TCP Window, so i should not have to change TCP window size.
Thanks
EDIT (20/09/2020) :
I tried to download and upload from/to my NAS and i'm able to have 110MBytes/s when i'm copying a 15GBs file to my laptop and 105MBytes/s when i'm copying back to the NAS.
My network interface was at 100%.
Far away better than my Devolo 1200 powerline.
I have one adapter on my garage, cable TV is plugged to TV IN/OUT, MOCA is plugged to splitter 5-2500Mhz power pass and two adapters at the other end in two dfferents rooms.
Physical rate on the web interface is 3656Mbits.
I like the fact that it is a USB power so i was able to change US power adapter for an EU adapter (adapter for a mobile phone is perfect 5V/1A)
My legend nevers shows up on my admin panel 11:00
I have two goCoax MoCa 2.5 and I don’t know how to set it up, the instructions say to hook it up to a laptop and change the IP address but it’s not working and I don’t know what I’m doing, can you please help, or anyone!!!!
Dude Decent I had the same problem, need to go to your computer settings and change the IP address (first time doing it myself following youtube videos), and input 192.168.254.10. After finish with the IP address connect the goCoax via ethernet to a router, on your computer browser type 192.168.254.254 you should able to see the goCoax admin page. username: admin, pass:gocoax
@@boricuajedi954 thanks for this comment I was stuck for 20 mins trying to configure my IP but I didn't have the moCA adaptar hooked up to my router
So 2.5 can be used with satellite?
No, it only works with over the air tv, cable tv and most home internet (a moCA filter can be used if it's messing with your cable internet).
is this a repost video ? swear I saw this up the other day.
never mind I see you edited the video. to talk about the MPS button.
It was unlisted as I was planning to push it out today to subscribers. Also as you noted I corrected the MPS button section.
@@LonSeidman thanks. I just happen to see it on a whim.
If you buy those do you have to buy somehing else
Here is a bit of more information that could be of use.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multimedia_over_Coax_Alliance#MoCA_2.5
Actiontec makes a 2.5 adapter also it seems. not sure if you've covered there's in the past or not. seems to be similar to the go coax one though.
ECB6250
www.actiontec.com/products/home-networking/moca-2-5-network-adapter-ecb6250/
They don't sell to consumers directly unfortunately.
@@LonSeidman The Actiontec MoCa 2.5 adapter is available on Amazon now for sale directly to consumers. A review on that one would be great!
Can you transmit cable and internet through same coaxial and split it at the end?
Yep ....
Since CATV signals are all somewhere below 1000 MHz. And the MoCA "D" band signals are all above 1000 MHz, specifically between 1525-1675 MHz.
Since it is moca 2.5 does it need a higher mhz splitter than 1675 mhz? (Which works with 1gb moca)
@@Tom-pl4co ;
No, ....
As MoCA 2.5 achieves its higher data rate by just bonding more 100 MHz wide available channels together (3-5 as opposed to 2 for MoCA 2.0 bonded). And these channels fall between the same 1125-1675 MHz limits of the MoCA D band.
Find a real cable technician in your area and ask them why no providers use MoCa devices anymore. Don't hook them up to a working cable system. Only use them on secondary lines not hooked to your local cable plant.
Why not? So long as you have a poe filter I see no issues
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$175? Ridiculous.
I'll wait for real 2.5 gb. 2, 1 gig is so dumb for futureproofing