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- čas přidán 22. 09. 2023
- #kungfupanda2 #lordshen
Re-watched the film the other day and fell down the rabbit hole :0
Honestly tho I missed seeing him, wished we'd get a villain like him again/alt a sequel/prequel featuring him ^^ - Krátké a kreslené filmy
I always liked the interpretation that the sooth sayer was like a family friend like shens un official grandma. He argued and yelled at her but never could bring himself to hurt her so let her go at the end
In some old page of dreamworks, they revealed she was Shen's nanny, that would explain why he didn't hurt her and just got angry at her (nothing more tho, even if she ate his robes), maybe it's a deleted concept but for me they implied it in the movie, because when you find out that she was his nanny, their relationship between of why he doesn't imprison her and even lets her go gets explained.
There also might be the assumption soothsayers can't help seeing what they see, even if it causes them personal distress. So getting mad at them is kind of pointless in a way getting mad at a normal advisor wouldn't.
@@oshkeet Yeah it could be that one but since Shen was blaming everyone for what happened to him, he could really tell it was her fault and prison her or being more cruel at her, but at the end he didn't, even when she dare to eat his robes and wasn't doing her job of guessing the future, he didn't react so bad and never hurt her... so it makes you think that she was more than just a soothsayer for him, like a nanny in the past imo.
It hurts even more considering how he believes his parents hated him, and yet, he knows she never did. They care about each other. He could throw away any relationship or memory he had with his parents, but not her
@@SirLuckySlime So true... He threw his father's throne away with anger and with little remorse, he could even say that she also hated him because she was the one that said the prophecy, but he never did, he knew she always loved him.
HE FUCKİNG DİED I WAS NOT READY FOR THAT I NEVER THOUGHT OF SOOTHSAYERS SİTUATİON AFTER SHEN'S DEATH-
Yeah after seeing the film again I refuse to believe she was simply 'okay' with this.
Like, I get she's glad for the people of Gongmen City and beyond (China over all) but as for Shen I always assumed she was happy he'd found peace, since he couldn't in this life.
Still, since they pretty much implied (sorta) that besides just being the royal Soothsayer I like to think she must have been his Amah growing up, ofc much changed after his banishment and later return as a warlord but seeing how close they are in the film- I mean 0.0
It must have been so difficult for him growing up.
Not as any excuse to what he’d done, but there’s always reason to empathize
Indeed, one would think a highborn such as himself would not receive the full blow of society's judging gaze.
Perhaps he didn't, this is just my interpretation of how it happened but I do think his 'unique physical appearance' definitely affected him growing up 😢
Still, that's no reason for what he did, although, thinking it over and applying the same logic to real life (which no, you should absolutely not do I'm just brainstorming here) I can totally see something like this happening and that person would have been seen as 'in the right' by their society?
I mean think about it, the pandas seemed to have been a minority and lived separately, we never get to see how the people of Gongmen City reacted to this happening (not that I think they would have been ecstatic or anything) but it's very reminiscent of a lot of real historic events where things like this have happened..
Food for thought I guess o.o
Still I DON'T APPROVE of what he did, just to make that clear 0.0
@@the_sleepless_dream
Well when most Royals are defeated they meet a very unpleasant end. And as KFP 2 shown while the prophecy only said Shen would be defeated a lot more happened than just that.
So how would Shen know if his family and people he cares about wouldn't get caught up in this? If these people are trying to destroy Shen for nothing from his point of view is he right to defend himself and prevent this or just let it happen?
And then there's the whole emotional side of things like Shen knowing that at any point in time some Panda or Pandas could destroy him.
Because Shen wouldn't even be able to know if its just one panda doing it or many. Because a random soldier from a Panda army delivering the killing blow would still be a warrior of black and white defeating him
Shen has so much to be losing if he chooses to do nothing
@@jammygamer8961 Yes exactly! Again, don't apply real world politics to fiction, it just makes things.. sad
@@the_sleepless_dream I think its good to have some semblance of real world politics.
However if its makes the story more interesting I feel as those rules can be bent as long as it makes sense in their world.
@@jammygamer8961 Oh yes well ofc you need rules and logic for a story to work (assuming it's in an alternative reality like KFP is) but I meant it more so in, 'don't confuse real life tragedies for fictional ones', as in, depending on a lot of factors of course, Shen would likely not have been allowed to leave the city once his parents found out what he had done, no banishment here :0
And like you said, his final fate would have likely been a lot more gruesome then what we got in the film Dx
But yeah, as long as the story makes sense and is enjoyable to read/watch than rules can be more than flexible ^^
You know, him being bullied for his coloring would actually explain why he became evil and I almost wish it was included in the movie.
I wish it was included too but for me, maybe it happened off screen because we don't know what his childhood was like and some of his teenage years, because in the movie they show his story when he's already an adult, so maybe something happened in those years when he was younger.
It was in the minds of the creators...I read that they had this backstory for him long into production
@@mistertea603 really? do you have any proof confirming this?
@@pancakes590 not...on me no. Come on man, I get skepticism on the internet, but this is about the arts not politics...I think here we can go with a 'trust me bro' without sending in Hercule Poirot to investigate right? It hurts no one and confirms someones head cannon...isn't that enough here?
@@mistertea603 I mean I did google what you said and found nothing. That’s why I was hoping that you could give proof of it but if you can’t then i don’t see anything wrong with me speculating that what you said wasn’t true :/
NOT SOOTHSAYER MOURNING THE LITTLE BIRD SHE RAISED I'M GONNA CRY
(This is spectacular, I love the art style and colors!)
Let's admit that even though he is the villain of the story of Kung Fu Panda 2 he could be very different if the animals were understanding with him instead of judging his appearance.
When did they judge that?
They judged his appearance??
It makes sense, because even in the nature situation albino is seen as a desability by the others animals even by the same species.
Since it can be easly seen by predators and considerating the nature is just predators and prey, it's sadly true.
I'm in denial about Shens death lol. (With reason)
Great video, it poked me in the feelies
Same honestly Dx
I mean I do hope he found some kind of peace but would still be great to see him come back and plot his revenge, maybe teach Po a thing or two about scars who knows? >: 3
@@the_sleepless_dream I'm one of those weird fans that hope for redemption arc lol.
I like to think Soothsayer wouldn't of been smiling knowing this was the end for Shen. Since he's almost like a son to her.
@@jammygamer8961 Oh sure yeah I can see that ^^
I mean he'd likely be imprisoned forever but who knows, if Po could find peace maybe he could have too :(
@@the_sleepless_dream
Well Oogway was a warlord who was the brother in arms with the greatest Warlord of All of China.
If Shen is just a fairly regular warlord i don't want to know what those two got up to...
Also i've checked and theres the chance Shen can get an extenuating pardon. Which would save him, but also allow for some level of punishment if the writer wants to.
@@jammygamer8961 I'm not that well read on the lore of the KFP universe but having seen the third movie I'm aware of Oogway's past, and yeah it's scary to think about considering (in their world at least) Kung Fu is practically magic o.o
You know while doing some research I realized how little fanfiction there was on this guy, honestly thinking of writing some myself but we'll see, got more videos to finish Dx
Edit*
Just gonna drop this off here.. no one will know 0.0
Shen fanfic I just wrote: archiveofourown.org/works/50335270
No I’m not crying, it’s just a rain (from my eyes).
I AM CRYING
THIS IS SAD AND IT'S SO GOOD 👍👍👍
Ugh, my heart... Such a beautiful and sad interpretation of Sheng's and the Soothsayer's relationship q-q ♥
This maybe the reason that's why he hates animals in his village thats why he broke the bridge, and also it isn't Shen's fault for being a villain when Soothsayer wouldn't even tell him, he would still suffer from their judgement 😢
What yes it is his fault for being a villain
@@nyko9631 bro no, It was the Soothsayer's fault for telling the prophecy than talking to Shen's parents privately...
@@niquisshadelasada162So it's the soothsayers fault for privately telling Shen's parents that he might be dangerous to everyone around him.Do you realize how dumb that sounds?
@@niquisshadelasada162that doesn’t justify a gen0c1d3 💀 he can be your fav but don‘t justify his actions just bc he had a few stones thrown at him.
@@RedSkull-hn2zi bruh, if I'm dumb then ask the real composers of the movie maker (the creators and editors) I'm tired of explaining..
I've been denial of his death ever since I watched the movie for the first time and I still do now 😭
I am NOT NORMAL About this situation
I... LOVE... IT......
그림체랑 표현 기법이 너무너무 깔끔해요😭
눈물ㄴ나게 좋다 ㄹ으흐르흑ㅠㅜㅠㅠㅜㅜㅜㅜㅜㅠ 셴 내 최애ㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠ 할머니랑 행복하게 살 수는 없었던 것이야ㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅁㅠ!!!!
영혼계에서 행복해야 해.. 겸허하게 눈 감고 죽음을 받아들이던 그 모습이 아직도 내 눈에 선하다.. 하
Omg your gunna make me cry
Not gonna say that was the idea but- 😅
why did this make me so emotional
I'm kinda sad we never got a followup to the Soothsayer in the newer KFP TV media.
The fact that Shen never got a single line in KFP4 was utter discrimination, gosh I DESPISE Mike Mitchell more because of this...
Treating his staff and co workers as garbage is a red flag in on its own, and if you saw his older concept then you would be utterly be disgusted at how atrocious his idea was.
Dreamworks can't just turn back anymore, with Megamind 2 they can because it was utterly atrocious and was not even recognized as a genuine sequel.
Good job, Mike... You just ruined TWO genuinely good KFP villains that could have an interesting dynamic on the movie.
Shen with the Soothesayer, Po, and Li Shan.
Along with Tai Lung and Shifu.
Really great video, I love the art and content you do about them
This artstyle, it's so... Beautiful!
Amazing work! Really makes me wish we could get a Tv-show about Shens life
Nice animation
1:05 (Shen): Are you trying to intimidate me? The future Lord of this city?! >:(
(thugs): Umm... :(
(Shen): Wolves! WOLVES!! *KILL EVERYONE!!!* >:(
(Wolves): My Lord, again...? just accuse him before your father... you don't need your city's soldiers for this...
THIS IS SO AWESOME AAAA
AHH I'm glad to hear you say that! I'm hoping my coming content will have a bit more quality to them than these older ones 😅🤞
This made me a try not to cry challenge😢 because Shen is my favorite fiction character in kfp2😭😭 its so sad he accepted his death 😢 i liked him😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 he was the best😭😭😭😭😭😭🥺🥺Somebody please calm me down im a bird lover including peacocks 🥺🥺😭😭😭🥺🥺😭🥺😭😭😭😭😭🥺🥺🥺😭😭🥺🥺🥺🥺😭😭😭😭😭😭🥺🥺🥺😭😭🥺😭🥺🥺😭😭😭🥺🥺😭😭😭🥺😭😭🥺😭🥺🥺😭🥺😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢 i loved shen as a fiction character and nothing can get in my way to stop loving him😭😭😭😭😭😭 like hes not annnoying and greedy, its just because his family hated him😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 and shen here is perfect all the way😭😭🥺🥺 hes not greedy,selfish,annoying,bratty and etc. Hes perfect as the way he is, even tho he looks like an albino peacock he is not😭😭😭😭 please guys dont hate on him hes not albino nor racist😭😭😭😭😭 hes just a nice leucistic indian Peacock 😭😭😭😭😭 like theres nothing to hate on him😢😢😢😢 hes perfect😢😢😢😢 even tho hes just fiction and hes not real, i still love him😢 in my heart.... He means the world to me like even tho y'all are back there saying some stuff like "Oh look we are not being mean hes the one being mean hes trying to kill po, commited genocide to the panda village, and almost killed baby po, and what makes you think that we are being mean to him whilst hes already mean??... Tchhh" HES NOT MEAN !!!! He just did that because he wanted revnege on his parents who called him Rude mean selfish etc. i know hes mean and rude to all of you, but....to me..... Hes innocent and kind and pure to me....hes not a pure evil character....... Hes broken ........ Pls dont hate on him.....guys .........i always imagine him as a baby leucistic indian baby peafowl......... Like he's so cute in his baby and toddler form....... please guys im begging you to not hate on him😢😢😢😢 i already know your thinking hes pure evil in your heart.....but to me......hes a broken fictional character.......😢😢😢😢😢😢😭😭😭🥺🥺🥺😭😭😭🥺🥺🥺🦚🦚🥺🥺🥺🥺🦚🦚🦚😢🩸🩸🩸😭😭😭😭😭😭😭🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏Nothing can surpass of my liking towards shen😢😢😢
Two of lord shens best quote:
"Happiness must be taken, and i will take mine..."
"My parents......hated me......"
-Lord Shen😢😭🙏🦚
And if you dont even give a sh!t about what im typing right here now... THEN FINE!!! Make it your own way..... And if you dont give a bullsh!t about what im typing right now..... I wont even care a single piece of your teeny tiny nonsense you won't even make slice up my liking towards him Even if you say rude things and bad things to him like your cussing and mocking his name, i won't give a piece of a singular sh!t on your comments, because your comments deserve 0% of purpose and 0% of respect even if your BEING MEAN TOWARDS HIM I WON'T EVEN CARE A SINGULAR PIECE OF YOUR NONSENSE BULLSH!T AND IF YOU HATE WHAT I'M SAYING RIGHT NOW THEN GET OUT OF HERE WORTHLESS PIECE OF SH!T AND IF YOU DON'T WANNA GET OUT IDC!!!!! YOU WON'T EVEN BREAK APART OF MY LOVE TOWARDS SHEN, YOU ALL WORTHLESS BEINGS EVEN IF YOU SAY WEIRD BAD STUFF TOWARDS ME I WON'T CARE ABOUT IT EVEN ALL I CARE IS THAT SHEN....IS...ON....MY.....SIDE!!!!!👿👿👿👿👿👿👿GET OUT OF HERE YOU TEENY TINY PUNY HUMAN!!!! IF YOU DON'T LIKE WHAT IM SAYING GO AWAY!!! YOUR NEVER MESSING OUR RELATIONSHIP TOGETHER 👹👹👹👹 I WON'T GIVE A SINGLE PIECE OF SH!T TO YOUR WORTHLESS NONSENSE HORRENDOUS STUPID COMMENTS!!!!! JUST DONT MESS OUR RELATIONSHIP!!!!!!!!! Even if you say "Y/N and shen sitting on a tree K I S S I N G 😂😂😂" I WON'T GIVE A F*CK cause all i know is that y'all are gonna be talking nonsense, even if you report this comment or paste/copy it i won't even care about it all i know is your not messing our bond together 🤬🤬🤬🤬 EVEN IF YOUR SAYING BIG OR SMALL BAD AND HURTFUL WORDS TOWARDS HIM I WILL ALWAYS DEFEND HIM🤬👿
It's make me cry;--;
In the caount of 3, i gonna cry.
Amazing animation great work also I love this movie it’s amazing
:D
Sad
😢
Isso me deu uma pena enorme no Shen que acho que escorreu uma lagrima no meu olh😢
😢😢.. 1:45
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Idk I don’t think that was really one of his issues
Neither do I but it's an interesting concept and baby Shen deserves more content 😅☺
@@the_sleepless_dream I feel like it fits Po more as everyone used to make fun of his size back in the first movie and he had major self esteem issues
@@CRCR0006 Sure but I wanted to make a video about Shen so 🤫
@@CRCR0006 I wholeheartedly agree and I now want to see this edit with Po and Ping! No doubt that Po probably faced a lot of bullying in his childhood too as a cub.
NUUUUU
So now i suppose to feel bad about this genocidal?
:(
Ugh Nicole Dollanganger is cheating