BMW 640d Long term ownership honest road review
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- A complete honest review of the BMW 640d by Car Mad Dad who’s actually owned one for 18 months. No need to watch any other reviews, everything you need to know is right here.
This video is how Car Mad Dad was born! Trying to find a review for myself and coming a cross a distinct lack of video content about the BMW 640d I thought I’d create one with honest opinion an put it out there.
So, here is my opinion; the good, the bad about the car.
Everything from suspension and toe in set up through to back seat leg room!
Why did I send the car to Motech Performance for springs and spacers?
Should I spec adaptive suspension?
Is the gran coupe a better all-rounder? I’ll let you decide!
If you too have owned a BMW 640d do you agree with me or not? Share your thoughts.
Thank you for watching
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Been looking forward to this. Liking the editing style. Cheers
Cheers Pal
Appreciate the comments.
More 640d content needed! No word of a lie your videos had a large part to play in me purchasing one myself! Safe driving
Great to hear buddy.
Happy / Safe Miles
CMD X
Is it an expensive car to run??
@@haider7866 no not at all, drive sense-able and you will be fine!
First. I try in english as best as i can. Nice review. I have a 640D carbon black m-pack and with all of the options almost and the beautiful Bower and wilkinson system. A real earwurm and eyecatcher in the car and also from outside. A black frontgrill is also a beautiful upgrade to do. I lowered the car with ac schniter springset, a difference in drive and looks. I have the car now 5 years and i am still in love with the car. I still adore to drive this car and i am still excited. The beautiful thing is that the car is still today an eyecatcher in the streets, people are still looking at this car, more then a normal 911 porsche or many other cars. My car is most of the times also shiny, i never go to a car wash, but i do it myself. I have also a beautiful exhaust sytem that sounds fantastic. Done by specialists in Belgium. Unbelievable what those guys can do. Many M4 or porsche drivers gave me already copmliments about it. This car could be a classic in 10-15 years. The succeder is the 8 series. And i will buy sucgh one normally as next car. But i am not in a hurry, because this 6 serie still looks awesome and up to date. The 8 series is to early. The 6 could easy doing another 2 years. Still awesome in every way.
Thank you Alex
Would love to see / experience the B&W System mate - looks the dogs "doo dars"!
Great video. I have the 640d gran coupe. That does have folding seats and is quite practical, considering that it's a six series. I also opted for the eibach springs. Mine originally had 19s on. So I've put the m5 20 inch 343m wheels on. They fit great. But I did have to change the tyres. Best car all round for me. Ticks all the boxes and puts a smile on my face. Thanks for sharing yours. 👍
Thank you for the awesome comments Matt.
I bet those alloys of yours look pretty special with the eibachs on the GC.
Keep on Keeping on x
Matt could you do a short review of yours what to watch out for and 640d issues like just a little quick fire list I can rattle off I'm looking at one at the minute exact same as yours but in Ireland
Just bought a 2014 640 M Sport....and I love it! I was a die hard Merc Fan but I fancied a change. And I'm glad I did! 😊
That’s great Mark - enjoy!
I read the comments regarding the sound..from watching your first video at the infancy of your channel, your on a complete learning curve. I'm enjoying watching how your videos evolve. Do love your 'B' roll music pieces. Very classy. Looking forward to watching your other videos. It's a content journey I'm enjoying and I'm so glad that I found your channel completely by accident to be fair via browsing on Ctrl&shift for petrol ped merchandise. Just had to head over and search for your channel. Stay well and you and your family stay safe. Again love your honesty through your reviews.
Legend dude - yes you should normative a marked difference in the last few months especially - cheers x 🥳🥳🥳
You made me buy a 640d, very informative video and ill be starting my own channel too!
I'll take the blame buddy ;0)
Glad you like the video and hope you enjoy the car - great purchase.
Bets of luck with the channel
I have a carbon black 2012 640D. I’ve had it 6 years now and bought it when it had 19,000 miles. It’s the best car I’ve ever owned. I’ve now done 145k in mileage and still to this day I’ve never had to pay for any repairs, it’s simply bullet proof.
However a sad day looms, I love the car, but I’m also a family man and my youngest daughter who is approaching 5, her legs are getting longer and it’s becoming uncomfortable when I’ve got the kids with me. I’m looking to maybe part-ex for a white X5 M sport with black alloys, it looks nice and is well equipped, but I’m not really looking forward to giving up this beautiful car for a dad car.
A sad day indeed ;0)
Great to hear your feedback and thoughts - best of luck with the family wagon.
The wife runs a 2017 X5 (40d) and it has been as good as the 6!
Car Mad Dad took it for a test drive today, the X5 cabin was very nice and it did look sporty in white and black 20” alloys and fair play, it was pretty quick, not as quick as my 6 but only a smudge slower.
I’ve got a 640d convertible love car enjoyed the video as well
Cheers dude x
02/07/2019 - I'm picking up a 2014 640d M Sport with 38k on the clock tomorrow. Your video talked about every reason that persuaded me to commit and buy one. Good job.
Allan you absolute legend!
Thank you very kindly for the positive comments - happy to have helped!
Good video, keep it up
You come across like a pro journalist
Cheers James
Not convinced I come across like a pro but ill keep on trying!
Appreciated x
Great video, lots of interesting insights!! Love one, got 2 kids!!
Maybe go gran coupe buddy 👌
Re your comment about the rear seats not folding down - could this be an option? I understand it is on the 5 series saloon of the same year?
Don't think so - was told that the 6 series "doesn't have them"???
I have the gran coupe 640D Msport (Plus, so heads up, harmon kardon, 20inch wheels, plus variable damper control so have the Comfort +, surround cameras, which make parking a dream) and back seats go down in mine, however, yesterday i took wife, mum and dad to heathrow (parents holidaying in Sri Lanka!) with 3 suitcases, 4 hand luggage, and managed to fit it all in the car, in the centre had one of the suitcases, but all in comfort on 100mile trip to airport!! and yes it is very capable, bit of a sleeper car if you ask me, as a few merc 500CLS have tried racing me and they have come off worse!!
Sounds like the ideal set up chappy x
Sounds like the perfect spec Damindra ;0)
“Life cycle injection” like that one. Great honest review 👍🏻
Thank you 🙏🏻
I bought a new 640d convertible three years ago when I upgraded from a 2011 320d convertible. Put a huge smile on my face from the moment I first drove it. It’s a fantastic GT car and I’ve driven it up on down the country several times. Select eco pro mode and it’ll much up the miles all day long and return a healthy mpg. I drive up the A59 to Harrogate quite often, usually with the roof down, weather permitting, and it’s brilliant on those twist country roads. Slip it into Sport mode and it’ll overtake lines of lorries effortlessly with no drama. The acceleration is awesome for a diesel and delivers all the power I’m ever gonna need. Yes there are more powerful cars out there and yes, there are more economical cars out there, but as a package of power verses economy, there’s nothing out there to beat that 3 litre Diesel engine. It’s a big car but the surround cameras make parking a breeze. Yes the back seats aren’t very practical but I drove 4 people from Lancashire to the Isle of Wight in relative comfort but you don’t buy a 4 seater convertible for practicality. The boot is very spacious, even with the roof down, as some convertibles only have a boot for somewhere to store the roof, but you can actually get suite cases in it. On the whole I’ve had three enjoyable years with my 640d and apart from a replacement roof sensor which was swapped under warranty, the car has had no reliability issues whatsoever. The biggest running expense has been replacing the 20 inch run flat tyres at roughly £300 a corner and it seems to go through quite a lot, although that could be down to my enthusiastic driving 😊. I’ve had no regrets buying the car, even though it has depreciated quite badly, but if you want a car that holds its value look elsewhere and if you’re looking for an investment then buy a house. If you want a big GT that’s fun to drive and practical for everyday life, this is the car for you.
SPOT ON MAN X
640d convertible... Wow. Do you miss the petrol engine of the 640i?
What do you recon now you can pick these up for 20k? Never considered a diesel but my mileage has quadrupled and they seem to be super cheap with everyone worried about ulez.
I would imagine so dude
I really want to get this car but I drive locally alot. Is it risky getting it in this scenario in terms of dpf etc?
I think if you do NO long runs you would struggle but I was ok with a “quiet month” every now and then with no big journeys.
How are these for tyre wear?
Is it worth getting one with a sunroof?
Lovely looking cars
Tyre wear was very good. Easily 12-14,000 miles and that's putting the car through its paces!
I think a sunroof is a must!
Thanks for the reply mate
Quite a difference from my f31 got 40k out the rears!!
I have an 2010 F11 530d, have been wanting to replace it for years but been unable to find anything i would replace it with. I do now however have an itch for these, they look staggering value if i can get 16 or 17 plate fully specced with M Sport Plus etc. Starting to see them at £20k. Really helpful video, thanks.
Cheers Ash - appreciated very much kind Sir!
What’s the service, tire and basic maintaining cost like for this car roughly?
Services you would have to look up chap as mine has a "service pack" which was £399 for 3 years. Tyres are approx £200 a corner (for good rubber). Other maintenance costs have been minimal due to reliability so far (& warranty)...
First MOT in a few weeks though!!!
Could you do a video on maintenance over this period of time and any associated costs?
Im going to look into this over the coming weeks Jan... Leave it with me.
Any problems with this car anything gone wrong ?
Great Video, there aren't really a lot of 640d reviews on CZcams. Hoping get some more from you regarding comfort, costs
May I ask you how old you are?
I'm Considering to purchase a 640d (2017) as a Gran Coupe but not sure if I am too young for this car (near 27 years old). The main reason for this car are my long runs (driving around 20-25k per year) and i think this is defently a great car for long runs on the motorway.
Are you still driving with 43 mpg?
Greetings from Switzerland.
Thank you for the thoughts and comments Ardian.
Next video to follow before the end of August all being well.
I'm 32 years old now - bought the car age 30. Insurance hasn't been a killer compared to the M2 as an example.
This car is perfect for smashing out the motorway miles - i originally drove the engine in a 7 series up to Scotland and that's what sold me the car.
Add abit of lane fun to the mix - whats not to love!
Cool video! I've been looking for a 640d GranCoupe for quite some time now, but since it's rather unusual (you don't really see them everyday) I've not seen much info on the reliability, so...
Is it reliable?
Greetings from Czech Republic!
Drak Václav keep an eye out for an update video next week.
In summary - epic car
Never had any issues with reliability
Solid build chap
@@CarMadDad Cool, I'll go for it, I have found plenty of used 640d's with less than 20k miles for some good prices. I really love the car, always wanted a BMW. :)
@@CarMadDad Also you got a new subscriber ;)
Drak Václav enjoy the car shopping buddy and thank you for the subscription.
Genuinely appreciated 🎥🦸🏻♂️🙏🏻
Are the back seats smaller than the 2 and 4 to make the boot and front cabin bigger?
I can't get my head around how a 4.9m long car has so little rear seat space
There is a lot more space in a 4 door chap - back seats are actually useable 👍
@Car Mad Dad my X3 has back doors for daily use. I want a convertible as a 2nd car.
Is there any rubbing or scraping from the set up you got ?? Spacers and lowering springs
I didn’t notice any running however nose was definitely easier worse with scraping - one to watch out for!
Agh yes but I was kinda referring the wheels rubbing or scrubbing inner arch or abit ?? Sorry I worded it badly
Really really think i want one of these to replace my current mix of E46 M3 (weekend) & E46 330i (daily). And have one of these as an all rounder. Has to be in white tho 😍
Good choice!
I had an e46 m3 but doing 300 miles a week to work just wasn’t working out for me. The 640d is a great daily driver because of the miles I do and the power still makes me smile even after 2 years of ownership. Great compromise of fun driving, power and economy.
I’m considering getting the springs for my 640d which is on 20” wheels. Do they really improve the ride comfort?
Hi Mark
If you are on non-adaptive set up then in my opinion despite the lesser travel the Eibach's offer a more progressive spring - yes.
If you didn't ditch the run-flats, replacing them with regular (non-RF) tires are going to make a significant difference.
VanjaMk1 I’ve replaced them but it handles terrible now. Can you recommend good non runflats ?
@@YordanHristooov Change to michelin ps4s and you'll have comfort and handlind. Unfortunately ps4s don't come in 245/40 r19 and you'll have to take 255/40 r19 and rear 285/35 r19 to match front wider
K. Veronique thank you for the suggestion. My wheels are 20’s and here in uk I’m seeing them with discounts most of the time
A friend put a engine 4.0 diesel out of one these in a 2003 compact e46 it trys to wheely lift front on 235/45/17s on rear bin told it's as fast as a gtr be intresting completed next to one of these
Think its a 3.0 litre unit in these chap unless its an earlier model (could very easily be wrong)!
Sounds like fun either way!!!
Great video, great info. You should do smth about the sound, was hard to hear you out. Thanks.
Cheers dude - videos will be far improved sound wise from here on out - learning experience!
Check out the M135i video maybe and see if this has done the trick.
I read the comments regarding the sound..from watching your first video at the infancy of your channel, your on a complete learning curve. I'm enjoying watching how your videos evolve. Do love your 'B' roll music pieces. Very classy. Looking forward to watching your other videos. It's a content journey I'm enjoying and I'm so glad that I found your channel completely by accident to be fair via browsing on Ctrl&shift for petrol ped merchandise. Just had to head over and search for your channel. Stay well and you and your family stay safe. Again love your honesty through your reviews.
How do you check if it has adaptive suspension
You would need to check with BMW direct based on the Reg or see an order sheet chap - no tell tale signs unfortunately
Which camera you use to shoot
Go Pro Hero 4
Hi. Just buying my third six series first being an 08. Second was a 17 plate very well specced. Regret selling it so now buying another 17 plate 640d. Great cars. What colour is yours ?
Cheers for the view and comment G.
Think it was black sapphire 🤔
So you had the e63 as well as the f13, was it a big difference?
I think what is notable in the later models is the idrive and the later tech. 17 plate you can add Apple car play if it’s not already installed. The later shape is I think is prettier and certainly the later turbo diesel is remarkably economical whilst still powerful and quick. Still think a very underrated car. Larger wheels with low profiles provide a bit more of a bumpy ride. My earlier 6 series I removed the run flats and it was a far more comfortable ride
@@grahambrighty6459 Thank you, I have e64 650i v8 2007 model, black with the cream interior, owned it 1 year now, 6000 dollars, 60 000 miles on the clock, love it, I think in a few years may upgrade to f13 640d convertible😁
By the way I have carplay installed, plug and play android head unit, fits in place of the old screen, amazing car for the money
Well done
Cheers
I love the 6 coupe i really do BUT I have an E36 325i Coupe , Big boot, back seats fold down AND im 5.8 and I can sit comfortably behind myself , SO how did they make a much Bigger car and lose half the practicality ? AND The E36 has a Full size spare wheel , Oh Perfection from 30 years ago
Brilliant insight Michael - I’m off looking for one now 😂
I own the grand coupe 640d and i get 20-24 miles / gallon i dont know if thats right because i have it in l/100 km and i get 11.8 l/100 km
Cheers for sharing
Apart from the mileage, would you prefer the 640i or d?
I think the D suits the car more personally
Big - heavy and good for long journeys Witt plenty of go
Nice review , i plan to buy similar to travel from Czech republic to Germany (900km) on a weekly basis , compared to Mercedes 320CDI, Audi A6 or A8 and Jaguar 3.0 D , what do you think ?
Hi Pablo - thank you for your message and comments.
Depending on a few preferences that you have, I PERSONALLY would discount the Merc 320cdi and Jaguar as i'm not a fan of either brand. The Jag in particular does not have a place on your shortlist for me!
The Merc and Audi might be easier on the suspension but may also have you asleep sooner!
A6 (estate) or 630d for mme on your list... But i think you can guess my winner!
Correct spec = more smiles per miles than any of the competition!
I had the A8, CLS320 CDI and also a 635d, the 640d is the best on fuel and feels the quickest..... The BMW 635D was the better built car in my opinion
Thanks for reply looking forward to my bmw 640d !
@@PabloVillaronga Enjoy buddy x
Pablo Villaronga I did 14k miles on mine for 1 year. It eats them on long distances without you noticing. Without city driving and cold starts you will do same l/100 as a 2l diesel 😁
Did you change the run flats too?
Hi George.
No! The car came with dunlop tyres on (which were awful)... Upgraded to Goodyear (slightly thicker tyre wall - still run flat) and that did enough for me as I actually prefer keeping the run flats on incase I have an unfortunate puncher and am a long way from home!
Thanks. My 2016 640d GC sometimes feels like a boat - more Mercedes than BMW disappointingly (having owned 10 different BMW’s). I don’t have VDC either. Also seriously considering eibach springs after your review. Any downsides following spring upgrade?
@@gd8202 Eibachs will flatten the ride out and reduce the "boat" feel a little - but not too much. Car feels slightly more planted and composed out of corners.
Good videos, helped me decide to buy pretty much the same car. Did the wheel spaces affect the ride at all in either a positive or negative way? Im thinking of getting them for mine, its standard apart from an OEM M6 grille.
Hi There
Please excuse tardy reply - have been away for a few days.
I feel like the handling improved (much flatter through the corners = earlier on the gas)!
No change to ride (slightly improved if anything) however it is easier to scrape now!
@@CarMadDad would you consider changing to anything else? whats your thoughts on the Maserati Ghibli 3.0d with the V M Motori Engine?
@@harraisingh Great looking / sounding car the Maserati. Obviously huge curb appeal - would depend on cost to change i guess but personally would look into a Panamera before a Maserati!
Bit of an ugly duckling i know - just preference i guess!
From what i understand they are great cars and brilliant tourers.
Good video
Cheers fella 👏🏼
Currently own a f30 3 series 320D looking at these because they seem really good value.my only concern is maintenance costs and parts
Mine never cost me anything beyond usual wear and tear chappy - a good service history will see you right 👌
@@CarMadDad Thanks for the quick reply. Subbed.
Anytime chappy
Caught me at a good time
Cheers 👍
Are these twin turbo or twin scroll single turbo ?
Nope, it's the real deal... TWIN BABIES
@@Tom_Selleck308 What he said ;0)
Any engine failures ?
NOPE X
Did you not mention the year of this car??? 🤨🧐
2016
Why would you choose a 6 over, say a 3 or 4 series coupe?
I think it’s more exclusive and has a more prestigious “special” feel to it personally. Beyond that they are equally as good cars imo
I've come across the 6 when researching getting 435d and opting out of company car scheme and getting something second hand... Very tempted to stretch to one of these... The finish inside and looks are amazing... Going to be doing some long motorway runs.. And about 20 to 25k miles a year.... Running costs were the thing scaring me..
I did literally the exact same thing. Worth every penny and far less common
Also prefer the look to the gran coupe even at expense of back seats... The GC doesn't look right.... How much more roughly do you think your running costs are out of interest?
@@Dexxy2999 From experience of a 335d (assume similar performance and economy) I don't think running costs are higher as performance and economy are very close. Tax is the same and tyres are slightly bigger... so "negligible" i would say.
Thanks... I've done a few insurance quotes as I've heard horrific, but not too bad
@@Dexxy2999 Seems reasonable for me... Don't think it was any different tot he 3 series!
Are the back seats usable?
Not in the coupe Martin no. Small children at a push but if you need back seats - go for the 4 door (grand coupe)
LCI stands for *Life Cycle Impulse*, not "injection" lol
Noted chappy - cheers x
SOUND !!!!
Sorry 😞
Gran coupe would suit a car mad dad more
Agreed chap - but i do love a coupe!
How can a diesel engine sound and smell match with such a nice and sporty design
don’t know if on needs to “match” - personally I think as a GT car the diesel does as good a job as possible of providing sample performance and HUGE range.
Sound.
Working on it and should be far improved now. Check out recent m135i VIDEO as and example.
Looking at this between the 350 AMG sport. Waiting till i drive the BMW to decide, only bias is the back seats on a 350 are fine to fit in, but i dont care about passengers.
You'll have to let us know how you get on???
Considering one but unsure.
Do it!
If it is a 2016 why is it on an 11 plate?
private plate
I'm looking at getting myself one as i'm currently doing 70/80 miles per day... is there any common faults with these cars? 640d coupe to be precise
Not that I am aware of Ryan - might be worth hitting up the forums though to double check?
Im torn between 6 series grand coupe and audi A7
Good problem I guess Dave
Can this car fit a child seat in back?
Hey dude.
Yes - it has isofix swell however I would not recommend in the coupe (3 door).
If you need the rear seats, pick up a 5 door.
These cars lose a ton of money so picking up a 4 year old is a good buy as you get alot of car for the money plus there a good cars, economical too.
Agreed
Nice video. What is the intention for the channel charity wise? I would be quite interested in doing a video for you guys.
Hi There
So at present we are still a good way from the 1,000 subscribers we need before You Tube begins to generate ad revenue for us.
Until then (and the loose concept) is to support a national charity (Help For Heroes) and local large charity (Birmingham Childrens Hospital) and hold 1/3rd back for personal preference.
Aim is to ensure that 100% of funds raised will go to good causes and any help would be greatly appreciated.
Very interested in helping out there where I can! Give me shout on Teamatterz@gmail.com to discuss your ideas and I'll see if I can help.
@@TeamAtterz Pinged an email over buddy - cheers
How does one afford a young 640d and an M2
I worked my ass off for 13 years - thanks for asking
@@CarMadDad I've a coupe too for 1 year 4 months, a 2014 though
Your review is exactly all my thoughts on it
@@r-iii-rturbo9157 Good to know buddy - spot on!
@@CarMadDad hope you don't end up in the news like Gas Kings!
R-III-R Turbo had to look up who that is. Sounds like a scumbag who got what he deserved. Feel very sorry for the people he ripped off.
For me this car not having rear folding seats was a deal breaker. What ! Single men don't shop at IKEA !!
Tough one considering you get them on a 2 and 4 series dude!
@@CarMadDad yes. Still this car is sexy. Cant get it out of my head. 🤫
@@ArkadyRenko1 Maybe a compromise worth making???
Sorry, but single man takes two women with him, after beeing in a german disco, parking that car outside.
02:09 start
👍
I watched the first few minutes of this but had to move on as the sound is so poor. Speak up or buy a mic.
One of my earlier efforts chap - apologies
It's 313bhp not 330bhp mind.
My bad!
I drive it with 272 kw/ 380 HP.
there is 1 turbo just 2 different parts to it. not 2
Cheers for clearing that up chap
did i hear this right ? life cycle injection ? :))))))))
Yes dude - may have that one wrong (few people have pointed it out over time)
What ABOUT THE POTHOLES!
There are many!
Copes v well chap. Ideally though I would go for one with adaptive suspension for that extra ride comfort
Get a microphone, so much background noise it's not funny.
Did I tell any jokes???
You sound quality is terrible
Apologies chap - early days of YT and a lot of learning experiences - newer stuff is hopefully much better!
gave up trying to listen. managed to complain about the engineering i think, but you can't get the sound right > Massive Fail.
Cheers Andrew
All a steep learning curve - if you check out my newer video's i'm sure you'll find this and other elements drastically improved.