Azeroth Is LITERALLY A Prison! Sylvanas Was Right! Mindblowing Revelation!
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Is this what Sylvanas meant when she said that this world is a prison?!
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The prison of the primal incarnates is the exact same thing as the last titan logo the finale of the saga, an elemental prison and we've recently had hints that Azeroth is elemental in nature. Incarnates were asleep inside this prison much like Azeroth meaning she might not even be this baby at all but instead is an ancient imprisoned being.
Runes on the prison ring seem like domination magic that Primus created and remember who is the old ally of Primus that gave him his powers of reversing time, Aman'thul the lead titan guy that might have sealed this prison. Sylvanas literally told us that this world is a prison and it is likely that Sargeras tried to also break this prison as well.
He might not have been the crazy guy we thought he was, he might have been against the titan plan of imprisoning this world and he resorted to fel to confront them. Stay with me here as this really is mindboggling when you really dig deep into the info and then connect it with the old hints as this might just be that vast conspiracy we are going to uncover.
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> Calls Azeroth a prison.
> Azeroth is filled with scary wildlife that wants to kill you.
FUCK, She's right! Azeroth is Australia as a planet!
Take a look at Northrend's continent. Looks exactly like Australia LMAO!
Nah America got more animals that could tare you apart snakes and spiders ain't nothing I'd rather die from a snake bite then getting mauled buy a bear lion or something. Snakes and spiders aren't that common the weather will kill you before a snake does lol
I think Azeroth is the friends we made along the way
Let's hope that's not the conclusion lol.
You guys only complain, and will only complain.
I think that Iridikron knew what will happen with Fyrakk when he absorb shadowflame, 'two birds with one stone' he bought him time so he could progress with plan and got eliminated so in the future can't interrupt his plans with 'destroying addiction'
I do think that is the case actually.
how would Sylvanas know about the Azeroth Imprisoned? The Jailer kept feeding her lies or half truths. I think sylvanas was referring to the Arbiter unfair judgment separating families and loved ones.
The only lie Zovaal fed her was that he wanted to break the system in the same way she did. No other.
And yes, Sylvanas talked about such things.
You can just watch the cinematic where the explains just that to Anduin.
The prison = "We never had a choice."
Her goal = "But this is about to change."
Since Shadowlands Sylvanas explains what she wants all the time. People simply do no listen - as usual.
Sad enough they are also that stupid in real life.
i think you are right that Sylvanas probably referred to the unfair System of the Shadowlands and forced cycle of rebirth. BUT it's very possible that the devs used this line because it can also mean something that happens later (Azeroth's prison). OR it could also be possible that Sylvanas learned about Azeroth's prison either from Zovaal, or maybe from touching the Azerite or other sources. There have been more than enough clues and hints that the planet is basicly a prison or containment facility that the titans use for.. some purpose.
@@miriamweller812 Still amuses me how some Sylvanas fans believed until the very end that she was a big player in some huge cosmic game when she was merley a pawn from the very beginning
It's basically what ever the team who in charge of the lore/writing wants, we shouldn't think too much of it.
@@kamilzaciesz2659 i know right, how dumb of us to hope the story and the writing wasn't actually THAT SHIT. But it was sadly...
"This world is a prison." "Hope fails, now you understand." I'm not sure if those lines were meant to be more than Shadowlands dialogue, but it is very possible. After all, the signs were there from the very beginning. Even back in Vanilla WoW there are clues about the world being "a prison" and things not being what they seem. Even the sky was SHOWN to be FAKE back in the AQ raid.
I never stopped trusting or working for my Queen. One day I believe she will be freed from the Maw!
Azeroth is time-lost Jaina Proudmore
Speaking of the titans, that red "star" in the sky representing Sargeras (or his prison, not sure) is actually pretty big and bright at the moment so it could mean that he is coming back in one of the expansions most probably
Probably “The Last Titan” is when he’ll return, with Illidan in tow no doubt.
@@beastmaster0934 that's when DH will get their third spec I bet.
Imagine if Sargeras had stabbed the Maelstrom instead; all continents would've been hit by a massive wave much, much larger than what Deathwing created and wouldn't he also have struck closer to Azeroth's core if he hit Deepholm directly?
Probably.
it's probably the stasis device the titans are using to convert Azeroth into a titan. prolong her sleep until she matures as a titan instead of the elemental "blank slate," let's just hope it's not a first ones device or the Shadowlands ptsd might be real.
Yeah, i think that's the most likely theory, that Azeroth is indeed a nascent entity but that the Titans are trying to forcefully convert to Order.
Fun fact: Primus is the Jailer > - runes on Zovaal are domination magic... Aka he created it
-Primus is master mind strategist
-He 100% got contacted by Amathul
-Palegos has same runes engraved but this time with light (still domination magic)
-Zovaal end cinematic we see other 3 members but not Primus AKA he manipulates him
-last and most important hint Shadowlands collector edition box on the back HAS PRIMUS SIGN insted of Zovaal
That will be true in the future, Plus Primus once seek a unknow ally ( likely Aman'Thul) who show him variants time of battlefield so he can achieve the mastermind of predict future, 2 oldman look wise and decent but very deadly alliance
AKA = Also Known As. Learn to use it correctly.
Yes. This is what I always thought; I never thought it was as simple as Sargeras to go mad and create the legion to go and destroy Azeroth and "all life in the universe" because he's afraid of the dark. There had to be more to it, especially when it's been told from the Pantheon's perspective alone. What if the First Ones is actually just the First One and the rest got lost(or purposefully so) in translation and that being went into slumber after creating the Shadowlands and the machine.
Dont forget the tree broke apart of the prison cause she started speaking when it teleported into our world. Which i love cause it could mean elune and winter queen maybe scheming against the titians
Eonar from the Titans and her titan watcher freya did the same I think with the emerald dream. They hid it from Aman'thuls Vision.
So not every titan is I think agreeing with amathuls vision of order.
Great orator skills
so we are all being fooled to be part of the villian team! Good job, puppets!!!
Wonder how you didn't get that mortals are pawns in the cosmis war since the very start... that's really nothing new.
Azeroth is the framework / design the first ones gave part of their own souls to create. Below is a quote from the wiki noting this existence. Basically Azeroth will always try to balance the forces on the chart we got in the shadowlands. This means a pantheon that wants to suppress the other pantheons such as death, life, void, light, disorder (fell) and so on..... Well that pantheon would want this sealed. As this that creates and forces balance would then balance the forces they put down. Each should have a pantheon but we see missing pantheons such as the pantheon of life. This existence would restore the missing pantheons and the balance. The problem is that the pantheon of order does not want balance but domination and sealed Azeroth that govers balance.
This is why Azeroth is the center of the chart. Everything revolves around Azeroth. Azeroth is the center of the universe and the origin of everything around it. The existence that did the big bang.
"According to the broker Al'firim's interpretations of the First Ones' writings, the cosmos began with six forces (or possibly a different number) existing in opposition to each other until they came together (or were brought together) and gave form to a design. Each "architect" gave a portion of themselves, and thus "the pattern was drawn". With a framework in place, all things in the universe came to be, like a fungus growing upon the frame. The six forces were now in balance, and others arose from their intersections-a simple structure growing infinitely more complex."
How deeper we get with Worldsoul Saga are 3 layers to the Core of Azeroth how more power we unlock to protect her
I really dislike the idea that Sargeras took in the Fel just to stop the Titans to save Azeroth. If that really is what the writers want, then I'll stick to Classic. Turning bad guys into good guys and good into bad feels like a cheap twist at the expense of nearly two decades of established lore. The legion I know is twisted, corrupt, and wrathful, and will stop at no expense to dominate everything in existence. Plain as can be EVIL. And that's a GOOD thing. If they want to suddenly say that all of the destruction, corruption, soul-stealing, and genocide was in the name of saving Azeroth, it's laughable.
And knowing blizzard, they'll probably do it just for shock value, like Cata.
You should better learn that good and bad aren't that easy.
Those who make it look like that are mostly indeed evil people who manipulate others (those who don't get such things), that they are the good guys and all those they want to kill and conquer just the bad guys so it's fine and just.
Ever thought about doing a video on what or who the playable characters play as through the storyline, in raids too
0:57 So what you're saying is, Sargeras did nothing wrong...
Maybe the logo is not the prison for Azaroth rather the prison of Sageras
But he isn't imprisond on Azeroth.
Yes but this prisons are Titan technologie
I think Azeroth is special in that she is a convergence of all of the cosmic energies: Death, Life, Order, Disorder, Light, Void. Being a convergence, she's the most powerful entity in existence and all of the other forces want to dominate her and control her before she awakens. Aman'thul may be the one currently winning, infusing her with an overabundance of Order energies in an attempt to ensure she is on their "team".
This is why they introduced the stasis traps in shadowlands and had them set up by the transmogrifier in Oribos
That's not what Sylvanas was talking about.
Sylvanas talked about the cycle of life/death to which mortals were chained without choice, dominated and abused by it.
Hell, she even explains it to Anduin (and by the players), that you got no choice in life, that everything is dictated by these powers, this system and then, when you die, you are condemned for just that life that you didn't choose to begin with.
She saw that a brutal enslavement and by that wanted to break it down - what in a way she reached, not to 100% as she wanted, buts still quite a lot.
This said: Azeroth is likely part of the big system in which this cycle is a part of, the whole cosmic forces thing.
Azeroth is probably a "First one".
Azeroth being the Elemental Lord of all Elemental Lords would make a whole heck of a lot of sense.
Would it ? Spirits elementals are presents on every worlds, even ones that aren't sentients so why would Azeroth, not the most ancient world, be the Elemental Lord of all Elementals Lords ? Not sure it really put her on the same scale as the Titans either.
All other planets have spirit which balances the elements. Azaroth is said to have absorbed most of the spirit, what is Azaroth is the Elemental Lord of Spirit?
And what if Azeroth is the only REAL Titan, hence The last Titan title and the other Titans are just imposters that killed of all Titans and imprisoned her since there should be at least one living Titan for the universe to exist?
parallels between sargeras and illidan becoming more and more tangible
Considering all the retcons, you might be right.
illidan will come back as avatar of sargeras probably...enfuse by his power.when everything clear.also azeroth probaly gf of sargeras which titan drama we do not know yet.and deleted by them and real reason why sargeras turn against them.and gather an army.they always miss guide us to pointing fingers its all about void.but they can handle void lords themself and no need army.sargeras probably want to break this endless war.so azeroth probably one of void lord or something like this.switched side.and control both light and shadow or maybe more and mastered everything.but could not stand against everyone.
Illidans going to come back as a lightborn zealot and be the big bad guy again
@@Captain.Kincayd Lightborn ? The white Draeneis ?
This is the theory I have been supporting for a while now. I don't think it's crazy; I think it is brilliant. I never liked the Titans much and our presumed devout loyalty to them. I am ready to follow Xal'atath into the void to stop them haha
You just like her because she's hot. Be a man and admit it
So interesting! So then could this be the final vision nozdromu saw when he said aman'thul what have you done?? In end time??
My headcanon is that post-Wrath is a fever dream. The idea that the Titans turned Azeroth into a prison AFTER they found it, even though it had Old Gods infesting it, seems absolutely moronic.
We never defeated yogg-saron, we have been living in his nightmare since ulduar
So glad Metzen is back.
13.2: conspiracies of ulduar
im imagining that ulduar itself is the game's final raid
It's not just the titans telling us the Legion was evil: Velen told us as well. They've needlessly obliterated a lot of innocent worlds.
What if... Elune was the very being that was imprisoned all along, when Aman'Thul got so angry he ripped the first world tree out, and also somehow imprisoned Elune, and that was what truly made Eonar sad, because she was close to Elune?
I think that since most if not all of the Old Guard Story writers for Warcraft and World of Warcraft have left or been fired from Blizzard, all the new people have been doing since Legion is retconning everything we've ever been told to tell "their" story. Kinda like Kathleen Kennedy with Starwars.
just a question, so it's not me we still don't know why the islands woke up.
It is quite eerie & funny thet the ripping of the 1st World tree Elun' Ahir & one of the void lords Y'shaarj, from Azeroth & creating a big scar on the planet are so similar... What if what Aman'thul called chaos, was actually the fusion of a world tree, with a 'good' void lord & in stead of understanding, he just destroyed what he couldn't understand, because of their Titan dogma (with all their constructs getting the curse of flesh)... Maybe even (except for Eonar, who loves Elune & life) all life is chaos to the other Titans & kindred to the void's chaos... Maybe Azeroth is 'the price' coveted by all the different powers, trying to conquer (her), to get domination over the other domains. This would mean that Azeroth is actually similar to the arbiter, but on a cosmic scale & if she was given freedom, she can onehandedly straighten out all of the domains, by remaining neutral & an arbiter. Ofc this would mean that all attempts on her, could lead to consequences, to the purpetrators & why the Titans imprisoned her, whilst trying to brainwash her...
best video yet
Hey bro what is the song that plays in the background at 7:28 ? I've been trying to find it for a while
It's the Jailer theme
@@Doronsmovies Thanks so much
What about the ring and runes in the WoW planet logo? Maybe it's an obvious clue
If you write Fan fiction, let me know, I’d gladly read it. I really hope they do something with shadowlands lore like how you’re saying, but I suspect they’re not going to say a thing about it
1. When I think about how Titans are born I think about that God awful Marvel Movie "The Eternals"
2. Elementals, Death, Light, Void, Arkane, Life and Fel. With all these pantheon powers all putting their influence on this planet, Azeroth is going to be the "Be all, End all" of the whole Pantheon.
i really dont like them making the titans badguys all of a sudden, i liked it when they were just morally grey and saw things different than mortals, kinda like algalon from ULD he was the perfect example of what the titans should be something who truly believes he has to stop us but we prove them wrong by beating them
The world soul saga might kill off the older heroes like thrall, and Jaina just to make way for others.
Hmm, I don't think it's an elemental in particular. If anything. I think it's a First One. Or rather the Last First one and having a God Reborn dose interfere with everyone else's God Complex like the Titans and the Void. So each is trying to convert the Last God to its Side or otherwise Destroy it.
Hope you are right 100% ill return here in a couple of years
@NoobodyZ lol thanks, who knows what Blizzard has in store nowadays? It's really an uncharted Waters here.
It would be awesome if Azeroth is an actual "first one", and I love how stupid and wrong we always are as characters. We were wrong about Illidan the first time, and hopefully the second time too with banishing Sargeras. I don't trust the Titans one bit, trying to order the universe. I've seen Star Wars. Order is what the Galactic Empire wanted so f!ck your "order".
I want the next faction war to be between those who still believe in the Titans and those who don't. Me and my warband no longer subscribe to the Titan's bullsh!t
@@noktinYou clearly didn't pay attention to Star Wars then. There was order before the Empire when the Jedi and Republic ran things. The Empire was legit tyrannical and that's why the story progressed how it did. You for sure didn't understand those movies
@@Boss-ot1iy Peace and order aren't the same thing, so either read a dictionary or watch them again.
my gues is that azaroth is the mother of titans and that the conlifct between sargarus and the other titans might have played a role in her inprisonment.
so azaroth might be one of the first ones and they might sort of be the first children of the god of the universe of warcraft.
i pretty much think that azaroth is to warcraft what lady eternity is to the marvel universe.
Actually i want to hear this conversation in a trailer or ingame video:
I'm a Sargeras+Illidan Bromance fan
- I gave you those eyes to see the truth, but you became more blinded then before....
-And after decades you still didnt see what is coming for us....
... But I always knew you are just like me. Using powers that are not even natural for us... but find it through a purpose to endure against allodds...
- And now you are here, because you realized that my brothers and sister are not what they are.
-I presume you are now prepared to listen... Illidan Stormrage
-Illidan: Every choice i made... was to keep you away from MY WORLD.
- Illidan: I will never trust you, i will never serve you.... But if we dont do something... Not just Azeroth, but the whole world will consumed by THAT THING...
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I have a feeling we will need to re-imprison azeroth in the final expansion.
I will be happy if, within the next expansion or 3, we get a more customizable version of the Legion and WoD follower/missions systems. I want to have my own little home on Azeroth again with npcs that do my bidding.
Oh and Ogres. Definitely Ogres as a playable class. Thanks Blizz.
i wonder if they are planning to do something like the end times from warhammer after the last titan ends, the warhammer fans didn't like age of sigmar but i think it could be cool if it's done well, the game is from 2004 so they'll have to make a new one at some point because of the advances in technology, plus the expansion is called the last titan which might also be a hint that wow is gonna end, it would be kinda sad to see it end but i really like the idea of wow 2.
Well, at some point, Blizzard will have to renew WOW if they want to continue to exploit it.
Bet it’s the “fifth” element of spirit/soul that was devoured by the other 4 elements
what is azaroth is a half titan and half elemental? it make sense with both lores
This is more cosmic shit I can't be arsed about. Azeroth is the world we live on. That's all I need to know. All this talk about Azeroth this, Titans that... It's a bunch of Lunatic talk if you ask me - get it? Elune? Lunatic?
why would the rest of the cosmic forces care about Azeroth if it was just an Elemental Lord and not a vulnerable Titan Soul that is supposedly the most powerful being in creation?
0:15 I don't understand what's so strange about it, every worlds so far are elementals and have spirits that rules over them.
5:29 You base that on what ? So far, Sargeras has been destroying worlds or corrupting them (Draenor, Argus,...), He even defected from the Titans long before they found Azeroth so i don't understand what make you think that he want to free it.
6:43 Why would breaking the Lich-king helmet have anything to do with Azeroth "prison" ? The Lich-King didn't even exist when the Pantheon found Azeroth and he was created by Kil'jaeden, not a Titan.
8:20 Don't Argus actually prove that to be correct ? He was a Titan and born from the original homeworld of the Draeneis.
Maybe Azeroth is a nascent being but one that hasn't choosed its side on the cosmological board game yet so maybe the Titans put facilities on it to sway her toward Order ?
So, if Azeroth is elemental, that means that not all races are not of Azeroth. Elves are of elune, orcs, and dranei are obviously of Argus. Maybe the different forces putting other races that are not native to Azeroth are meant to destroy the creations of the Titans
Anyone else starting to think that Elune is placed there as a watcher for Azeroths prison? If what he says is true, I could see it.
every pantheon are the same power lvl either death,order,fel,life,light,dark
yeah but whats under bael moden?
Plot twist in BFA we didn't save Azeroth we resealed her again whit the Azerite.
Well when it comes to World of Warcraft the war, I'm honestly starting to have doubts that the Titans really are good guys. I mean yeah they seeded the world with mechanical life, as well as apparently some of the stone creatures so I guess Elemental life as well to a point. But it was the old gods that use the curse of Flesh to create us, and then the Titans came along and kind of like blindsided us with this whole big they're the good guys thing and possibly tricked us into following them and worshiping them. I'm not saying that the old gods are a good guys in this situation, but they're more along the lines of our creators than the Titans ever were.
Azeroth Sealed Prison hide the greatest powers that fear the Gods
Man this is a mess. I liked the baby Titan concept way more.
5:25 Anduin spinning his sword in the sand, thinking. Next cut is sargeras after stabbing azeroth. Coincidence, or good editing??
Then after this saga is done they can focus back on WAR
holy fuck. i love this.
Soon Big free for all!
Maybe we're the villains and they're the hero's who try to stop us
what if it's an egg that will hatch a titan?
I think Azeroth is either the Last of the First Ones or the most powerful of them!
IVE BEEN SAYING THIS FOR YEARS! Now that other people are verifying it, push Blizzard to bring back OG sylvanas, create 3rd fraction and genocide the alliance and horde (keep the taurens alive at least and the vulpera
Since the chronicle, which we found out is one sided, why do you all still believe snuffing about the titans? Amanthul is just a conqueror/dictator. The other titans are just under his thumb. He has been collecting world souls that he can control. Azeroth is the only one we can’t control so he imprisoned her. Azeroth is also not elemental. She is the sum of all forces. Look at the color. The violet, red, orange, yellow. Which is also the reason why Amanthul couldn’t convert her to a titan construct. Everything we know i about the titans is from them. They want everyone to think they are so big and powerful and are at the top of the food chain. They are not that powerful to defeat other forces, all they can do is lock them away or put up veils around different universes. You all have been duped
So just like real life? Shoutout to all my gnostics
yea but why would it take years for her to finally speak? Sarg and Syl would have broke those chains YEARS ago especially with the time leap after SL...otherwise it makes sense.
The war within is going to begin to unravel the Titans plans, its antagonist is going to be sometging or someone pretty irrelevant. Perhaps even a titan civil war resulting in the title "war within"
Midnight is going to foil those plans and the void lords are going to officially debut as the worst antagonists yet. They will be released at the end of the titan civil war if thats the route taken
The final titan is exactly that. Midnight is going to kill the remaining titans. And the last titan (could be azeroth) will awaken and restore peace to the peace to the planet by wiping out the voidlords alongside the heroes and restoring piece as the dark purple void logo is replaced with light.
This is my theory.
the runes on the ring are not domination magic.
I always supported this idea, and that's why I was bothered so much by how Sylvana's story turned so f**ed up in shadowlands as she looked correct to everything she said, but I don't believe Blizzard would make the bad guys end up being good. It's like an unofficial law, that whoever looks devilish, evil, undead etc, its always the bad guy. And good always wins in Blizz stories, so I can't imagine us joining the ''evil'' looking side. I mean, burning legion, undead skulls, dark powers, is always our enemy. Sad, cause it would be an amazing story, but I don't have much faith in Blizz letting this happen.
I think we will lose in The War Within. like some Infinity War/Endgame type stuff
Not sure about losing but I don't think it will be a traditional expansion ending, we defeat the bad guy and cheer. I think something crazy is going to happen, some really big change.
Even if she is right it still does not make her any kind of hero. There have many villains throughout history that had good intentions but what made them villianous were the actions they took in order to get there. The ends do not justify the means.
Sylvanas will return in Worldsoul Saga 😉
By the way things are setup and even the new 10.2.5 items almost certainly it will happen soon.
I hope not
god cant they just kill her off already they already removed most of characters I loved, there only tyranda and thrall left
@@Mikebrowski TyrandE
Wow in 5 years sum it up Zovaal was actually badass
The logos are the colors of shalamayne
Oh please, evil is evil.
Doron, if your theory comes true, do you think Azeroth will be friendly or hostile to the mortal races of Azeroth?
I think friendly honestly.
I hope you are right. Why do you think Azeroth would be friendly?
so if we go by the lovecraftian lore which this is largely based. Azaroth would be Azathoth the sleeping blind idiot god whos DREAMS create reality. IF AWAKEN the dream would even and reality would be crushed, hense why the other Outer Gods keep Azarot...i mean Azathoth asleep. Now what would happen if a true Void Lord came into our reality?? Now what happens to reality in the lovecraft if Azathoth is awaken?? NOW why is Azaroth kept alseep by the Emerald Dream???
So basically every villain is a good guy now? Typical Blizzard
"This world is a prison" because of the flawed eternal afterlife. An eternity you have no say in. What part of prison doesn't make sense to you?
If the Titans were created in Zereth Ordus, and they didn't born out of world souls... Then how did Argus rise?
He doesn't play the game. I wouldn't bother trying to make sense of his garbage
I believe everyone is making WAAAAAY too big a deal over this stupid logo. They just wanted a logo that looked... "Titanish", so they used Titan assets to create one of what was certainly many many designs and this one was the most pleasing to the art department. To listen to multiple channels go on and on with full tin foil hats about the particular assets used to create box art and how they have some "secret hidden meanings" is just getting ridiculous.
It would be funny if it was something like
the same happens in planet earth btw
This is what you get when the writing team are scrambling around for new story ideas. Use some older lines to patch a story together and then wink at the player and pretend you knew what you were doing all along and that it was all some sort of master plan...
wait but if the world is broken to let her out... what happens to the world lol
You can't just keep writing their lore for them
What if Azeroth was once free and the planet is a prison that was created to imprison her. Maybe she’s the last of the First One?
Then she should stay imprisoned or all peoples on Azeroth will die when she get out.
@@efaristi9737 I think it depends on how she comes out of it. Tali made a good video about that
Cant wow just keep it fantasy medieval fucking gods and titans and puppet gods
*Plays It was Agatha All Along*