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  • Alaska Airlines has announced it has purchased Hawaiian Airlines in a deal worth nearly USD 2 billion that'll make it the fifth largest carrier and grow Alaska Airlines' fleet towards almost 400 narrow and widebody aircraft.
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  • @Kiwibikerbuddy
    @Kiwibikerbuddy Před 7 měsíci +296

    I'm impressed with how both Alaskan & Hawaiian both managed to keep this development well under the radar. Undoubtedly the best well-kept aviation secret of 2023!

    • @johniii8147
      @johniii8147 Před 7 měsíci +13

      I would agree with that.

    • @johniii8147
      @johniii8147 Před 7 měsíci +8

      @@chrisb5888 Virgin, those of those in the industry knew was coming. That wasn't any big secret. You can thank VA for that since Branson wasn't happy and leaking that all over the place. Wasn't happy that venture FAILED. That's why it was no secret at the time.

    • @soccerguy2433
      @soccerguy2433 Před 7 měsíci +4

      Umm they just now revealed PLANS to purchase Hawaiian.
      There's nothing secret here. Nothing has happened.

    • @TUMBA0
      @TUMBA0 Před 7 měsíci +5

      @@soccerguy2433do you know how many individual humans are involved in this announcement? Whatever number you think...add 50. It's impressive for anything at this scope and scale to escape ALL of the industry analysts.

    • @cellpat7392
      @cellpat7392 Před 7 měsíci +2

      A medal to AS & HA for being so discrete.
      walk quietly and carry a BIG SACK of money!

  • @TacticaLLR
    @TacticaLLR Před 7 měsíci +105

    I think both airlines will stay somewhat separate, with Hawaiian Airlines operating in itself, just under Alaska.

    • @NarasimhaDiyasena
      @NarasimhaDiyasena Před 7 měsíci

      “For now”. They’ll play it cool for the first year then cannibalize the carrier creating a socio-political upheaval among Hawaiians and Hawaiian enjoyers who watch their airline get rug pulled like Virgin America

    • @Cerby1979
      @Cerby1979 Před 7 měsíci +20

      They did say that both will operate separately. However, this could also be blocked by the DOJ as this acquisition removes a competitor and may cause a rise in airfares.

    • @lcthevideogamer
      @lcthevideogamer Před 7 měsíci +13

      That’s also what Alaska Airlines had originally said when they bought out Virgin America 7 years ago, only for them to do away with their seatback entertainment and retire all of their brand new Airbus planes 🙄

    • @TacticaLLR
      @TacticaLLR Před 7 měsíci +12

      @@lcthevideogamer but Virgin America was already associated with a larger group of airlines, with the same name, it wouldn’t make sense to keep it on its own. With Hawaiian it’s different because they rely on wide bodies, and Hawaiian is an iconic airline, you simply cannot get rid of its aircraft and aesthetic without losing money.

    • @mikemcd
      @mikemcd Před 7 měsíci +2

      It’s gonna say Hawaiian Airlines x Alaska Airlines on the body

  • @rushfan3
    @rushfan3 Před 7 měsíci +97

    This comes as a shock to me. The purchase of Hawaiian Airlines by Alaska Airlines was not something I saw coming. Let's hope this will be a smooth transaction and they will allow Hawaiian Airlines to maintain its identity.

    • @hanj31
      @hanj31 Před 7 měsíci +14

      It will be similar to Air France KLM group I’m hoping

    • @johniii8147
      @johniii8147 Před 7 měsíci +6

      We shall see how it progresses. It actually seems a bit of desperate move by both. HA is losing a lot of money and AS doesn't haven't options left in the east. The stated goal is to turn HNL into a major hub to Asia. Seems sketchy at best

    • @timduggan1461
      @timduggan1461 Před 7 měsíci

      ​@@hanj31I think? I hope you're right there

    • @Dstew57A
      @Dstew57A Před 7 měsíci +2

      Hawaiian will keep its name and livery..just will have also Alaska Air indicated somewhere on the livery

    • @matthewwelsh294
      @matthewwelsh294 Před 7 měsíci

      Hawaiian is keeping its identity

  • @RashadKhanAviation2023
    @RashadKhanAviation2023 Před 7 měsíci +28

    HOLD UP WHAT IN THE WORLD OF AVIATION?!

    • @snooz221
      @snooz221 Před 7 měsíci

      Ikr

    • @ari_29971
      @ari_29971 Před 7 měsíci

      I LITERALLY THOUGHT THAT RIGHT NOW 💀💀💀💀

  • @Blank00
    @Blank00 Před 7 měsíci +78

    An airline company with multiple brands has never worked in the US. All mergers here have resulted in discontinuation of other brands. Even in Canada, WestJet is shutting down their other brands. The only reason why this worked with IAG, AFKLM, and Lufthansa Group is because they are not North American.

    • @johniii8147
      @johniii8147 Před 7 měsíci +4

      Yes. Highly questionable plan so far announced. This sounds like a rushed deal.

    • @soccerguy2433
      @soccerguy2433 Před 7 měsíci

      ​@@johniii8147it's not even a done deal. It's just a press release

    • @waynehagler4954
      @waynehagler4954 Před 7 měsíci +10

      I don't know. Alaska does OK with Horizon.

    • @waynehagler4954
      @waynehagler4954 Před 7 měsíci +1

      I don't know. Alaska does OK with Horizon.

    • @johniii8147
      @johniii8147 Před 7 měsíci +5

      @@waynehagler4954 Completely different situation and scale. That was a regional carrier they purchased years ago to feed SEA.

  • @timduggan1461
    @timduggan1461 Před 7 měsíci +12

    Again....my thoughts (retired UAL pilot). Hawaiian has B-787s on order, circa 2024. Alaska is (now) mostly B-737 fleet type. Hawaiian's best widebody currently, the A-330. They still have life left. Long-term planning is required.

    • @nomercyinc6783
      @nomercyinc6783 Před 7 měsíci

      nothing exists circa 2024 in 2023. nothing exists in 2024 yet

  • @sanmateoflights
    @sanmateoflights Před 7 měsíci +11

    Rainy Seattle and Sunny Hawaii - what a combination !

    • @sushka
      @sushka Před 7 měsíci +2

      It’s been raining a lot here in HNL this past week 😆

    • @matthewwelsh294
      @matthewwelsh294 Před 7 měsíci

      Seattle is very sunny during the summer months

  • @thomasairbuspilot
    @thomasairbuspilot Před 7 měsíci +4

    Epic transition around 4:40 from Alaska A21N to Hawaiian A21N

  • @Railviation
    @Railviation Před 7 měsíci +16

    Never thought that I would ever see this day coming, haha!
    I think it's absolutely hilarious that Alaska will be forced to keep the A321neos when they just retired the ex-Virgin America ones like two months ago.
    I also love how the FAA or whoever that they approved this merger but yet for some reason they declined the JetBlue-Spirit one.. oh well!

    • @andrewkosmowski3985
      @andrewkosmowski3985 Před 7 měsíci

      Maybe those Airbuses will be sent to Hawaiian, assuming this consolidation occurs?

    • @paulgooding803
      @paulgooding803 Před 7 měsíci

      Yeah "whoever" is kind of a giveaway that you have no idea what you are talking about. Mergers tend to lose approval due to a loss of competitive potential .... which is obviously not an issue here.

  • @richardneilan2392
    @richardneilan2392 Před 7 měsíci +32

    "OMG!" is exactly what I said when this breaking news story appeared on CNN. I certainly wasn't expecting this news. Although, long-term, it is doubtful that both brands will survive. Hawaiian's culture is truly unique and I would hate to see it diminished. Despite its name, Alaska will always be a "Seattle airline." Thank you Dj for covering this important story. It will be interesting, indeed, to see how it plays out.

    • @grantkaski350
      @grantkaski350 Před 7 měsíci +4

      Oh a CNN watcher

    • @maxsaviation9512
      @maxsaviation9512 Před 7 měsíci +4

      @@grantkaski350oh a fox propaganda watcher

    • @stilljt2864
      @stilljt2864 Před 7 měsíci

      I think they will strictly because the doj doesnt seem to want more consolidation

    • @moekitsune
      @moekitsune Před 7 měsíci +4

      @@grantkaski350 Why even mention this it has nothing to do with the video

    • @jwil4286
      @jwil4286 Před 7 měsíci +1

      how is Alaska a "Seattle airline"? are you saying that because they dominate the domestic market at SEA? Or how they're the ONLY carrier to serve PAE (a secondary airport in the northern part of the Seattle metro)? or what is it that doesn't seem very "Alaska" or "Anchorage" to you?
      to be clear, I am purely curious.

  • @BrianThePilot1640
    @BrianThePilot1640 Před 7 měsíci +27

    I pray that Alaska doesn't massacre the passenger experience as they did with Virgin America

    • @RashadKhanAviation2023
      @RashadKhanAviation2023 Před 7 měsíci

      They could possibly merge the experience from both airlines on selective flights to Hawaii, which is a very high potential.

    • @erauprcwa
      @erauprcwa Před 7 měsíci +6

      Alaska ranked #1 above Virgin America on all metrics prior and after the merger.

    • @markdc1145
      @markdc1145 Před 7 měsíci

      Better pray hard then!

    • @skinnybricks
      @skinnybricks Před 7 měsíci +1

      A passenger experience that wouldn't exist today, to be fair - if they didn't get bought.

  • @vincetelles3767
    @vincetelles3767 Před 7 měsíci +19

    Hawaiian is introducing the Boeing 787-9 soon. 10 with more options. I wonder if the new Alaska Airlines with Hawaiian being integrated will look to remove the A330s for more 787s eventually

    • @p4family
      @p4family Před 7 měsíci +10

      Alaska is all-Boeing so I’ll bet they’ll get rid of all Airbus planes in the fleet - that’s what they did with Virgin America’s fleet.

    • @johniii8147
      @johniii8147 Před 7 měsíci +1

      Let's not speculate about that. The current stated goal is this is just a subsidiary with separate operations.

    • @dmcr9525
      @dmcr9525 Před 7 měsíci +4

      Hawaiian actually stated previously they were already going to replace the A330 with the 787.

    • @dmcr9525
      @dmcr9525 Před 7 měsíci

      ⁠@@johniii8147Hawaiian has already decided to replace the A330 with the 787 according CH-Aviation and other inside sources.

    • @Railviation
      @Railviation Před 7 měsíci +5

      Due to the 787 delays, Hawaiian extended their A330 contracts for 5 more years. So they should be still around for a bit longer.

  • @mitchellquartero
    @mitchellquartero Před 7 měsíci +4

    It was a shock here in Hawaii as well early this morning

  • @liamball8335
    @liamball8335 Před 7 měsíci +4

    I love Hawaiian! I hope they maintain their great service.

  • @sosaix3545
    @sosaix3545 Před 7 měsíci +5

    Also, AS really loved the A321NEO, but the leases they inherited from that basketcase company known as VX were ridiculous. It's like getting rid of a car your new wife has but bought with her lousy credit and was financed at an 11% interest rate. Sure you like it, but you can't live with those terms so you get rid of it and buy something new with a 4% interest rate since your credit is much better.

  • @Michael_K_Woods
    @Michael_K_Woods Před 7 měsíci +27

    Hawaiian Airlines is a terribly run company facing a liquidity crisis. They need this deal and I am surprised Alaska is giving them a lifeline.

    • @Blank00
      @Blank00 Před 7 měsíci +2

      I was surprised JetBlue never set their eyes on Hawaiian and decided to look at Spirit instead

    • @census3370
      @census3370 Před 7 měsíci +4

      @@Blank00JetBlue just wanted the fleet and crews of spirit. Adding an airline at the furthest point of western United States wouldn’t make sense for them.

    • @travelinginfantryveteran5439
      @travelinginfantryveteran5439 Před 7 měsíci +1

      Alaska and Hawaiian will always be brothers and sisters cause of the 49th and 50th states and the CEO of Alaska once said: "The skies over the Pacific without Hawaiian will a dark Skies, Hawaiian will maintain its current logo and will not go away.

  • @stevecocco9341
    @stevecocco9341 Před 7 měsíci

    Very nice report brother!

  • @flyBy_Offical
    @flyBy_Offical Před 7 měsíci +5

    No way! I would had never expected this!!

  • @LtNduati
    @LtNduati Před 7 měsíci +10

    This is bonafide breaking news!!!

  • @airplanechannel9493
    @airplanechannel9493 Před 7 měsíci +1

    That is the best thumbnail! That was my exact reaction 😂

  • @chiefcaptaincole9889
    @chiefcaptaincole9889 Před 7 měsíci +5

    While I doubt the Hawaiian brand will get killed off due to these two airlines sharing the similar trait of providing exclusive service with Alaska serving small communities within Alaska and Hawaiian providing inter island service. However, remembering what happened to Virgin America concerns me. Many people will be extremely upset if Alaska decides to discontinue the Hawaiian brand as it will leave Hawaii with no locally themed or owned airline.

  • @DreamlinerFan2016
    @DreamlinerFan2016 Před 7 měsíci +28

    I was not expecting this new to pop up today! It’s quite the surprise to see within the aviation industry.

    • @jiongyu8185
      @jiongyu8185 Před 7 měsíci

      Will greatly miss the HA's Pualani

    • @DreamlinerFan2016
      @DreamlinerFan2016 Před 7 měsíci

      @@jiongyu8185Alaska did state that they will keep the Hawaiian brand

  • @lrg3834
    @lrg3834 Před 7 měsíci +4

    Alaska should do what Air France did with KLM. Keep Hawaiian as a separate, integrated brand.

  • @mr.luisanthonydivito3585
    @mr.luisanthonydivito3585 Před 7 měsíci +3

    Maintaining two separate brands may not be operationally efficient, particularly at West Coast airports, where Hawaiian planes could be optimally utilized for flights to Alaska, Mexico, or other U.S. destinations. Leveraging Hawaiian's widebody fleet presents significant potential in the Asian and European markets, supporting direct flights to and from key hubs like SEA and PDX. Consolidating under a single brand could streamline operations and enhance overall efficiency.

  • @crashlander5555
    @crashlander5555 Před 7 měsíci +4

    Finally some HUGE NEWS…
    After so many false alarms LOL
    OMG! 😅 thanks for the video ✈️

  • @raptorshootingsystems3379
    @raptorshootingsystems3379 Před 7 měsíci +3

    Can see the Hawaiian Airlines brand becoming like a boutique airline within an airline. Continental Micronesia had it serving between Hawaii and the South Pacific. Hawaiian will become intra Hawaii and to key destinations connecting Hawaii.
    Alaska Air gains a wide body foundation that can be expanded. In a joint interview, the CEO of Alaska
    Air brought up the 787’s without being asked and talked about being able to position them not only for Hawaii. I can see the order being expanded as regulatory approval is more clear.

  • @The.Fake.Adam.Lulich
    @The.Fake.Adam.Lulich Před 7 měsíci +36

    It will be interesting to see if Alaska utilize Hawaiians widebody Jets for expiations from its mainland hubs to Europe or Asia.

    • @RashadKhanAviation2023
      @RashadKhanAviation2023 Před 7 měsíci +16

      That's the upgrade of the merger. I'd expect Alaska to launch a route from the likes of Seattle all the way to London on a 787 Dreamliner if they ever acquire some from Hawaiian.

    • @TacticaLLR
      @TacticaLLR Před 7 měsíci +16

      Hawaiian is not turning into Alaska Airlines, they are just merging, similar to Air France + KLM.

    • @jeremyy9188
      @jeremyy9188 Před 7 měsíci +1

      Let's see if Southwest can offer more to get HA

    • @johniii8147
      @johniii8147 Před 7 měsíci +6

      @@jeremyy9188 They won't. Not interested. They have their own issues.

    • @johniii8147
      @johniii8147 Před 7 měsíci +3

      @@TacticaLLR To some degree given what's announced/figured out. Separate brands etc. But AS's latest statement is the vision is to turn HNL into a a major international connecting hub for them. This will be messy.

  • @vapour_xs9235
    @vapour_xs9235 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Gotta say, even the lingo between me and my flight instructor (who flies for Horizon Airlines) never told me about this, or even knew of it! I’m happy to see Alaska finally spreading their wings a bit more by acquiring a loner-distance based airline such as Hawaiian, things could look very promising here in the near future for my favorite airline.

    • @df446
      @df446 Před 7 měsíci +2

      It's been a rumor at Alaska Air Group for about 10 years.

  • @Freeze-O
    @Freeze-O Před 7 měsíci +1

    Always wanted to visit Alasker.

  • @internallyLe4i
    @internallyLe4i Před 7 měsíci +2

    I am just excited to see if Alaska air group acquires any widebody aircraft from Hawaiian such as the a330 series or the 787 series that will soon be delivered to Hawaiian.

  • @briananderson6558
    @briananderson6558 Před 7 měsíci +11

    Alaska retired the airbus fleet because the leases were terrible! Virgin didn't have the negotiating power that Alaska has! If the leases were more favorable, AS might have kept the airbus! Alaska is not anti-airbus as a lot of social media reports! The price tag and or lease rates just need to be in the company's best interest!

    • @wallacegrommet9343
      @wallacegrommet9343 Před 7 měsíci

      Alaska flies one type , the 737

    • @AlaskaErik
      @AlaskaErik Před 7 měsíci

      An all Boeing fleet makes sense for an airline the size of Alaska when you look at it from the standpoint of pilot and FA training, maintenance and spare parts. And it doesn't hurt that Boeing is right down the street vs almost two continents away.

    • @user-yj6ok5rf8e
      @user-yj6ok5rf8e Před 7 měsíci

      I wonder if Alaska Airlines would keep A330 fleets if HAL was changed into Alaska Airlines. I know that B787 fleets have been very popular now.

  • @gfrede1
    @gfrede1 Před 7 měsíci +2

    This is a very smart transaction to me with very little route overlap. The route structure will be very complimentary. It will be interesting to see the fate of the Hawaiian Airbus A320 family. I think Alaska will keep the A330s until they can phase them out with the 787s.
    I do hope the identity of Hawaiian will be maintained, because of its esteemed history. We shall see!

  • @emikomina
    @emikomina Před 7 měsíci +9

    Alaska airlines bailed out Hawaiian Airlines

    • @johniii8147
      @johniii8147 Před 7 měsíci +4

      That and buying up a competitor as they did with Virgin. Hawaii is a big part of Alaska's business from the west coast.

  • @Canleaf08
    @Canleaf08 Před 7 měsíci

    Wilderness to Waikiki. I traveled with AS and liked their lounge and service.

  • @BrandonTheWarriorPrince
    @BrandonTheWarriorPrince Před 7 měsíci +2

    I just applied to be a Flight Attendant for Alaska Airlines

  • @6allmotivepowers363
    @6allmotivepowers363 Před 7 měsíci +3

    I'm fine with it as long as Hawaiian doesn't cease to exist.

  • @Tcook96
    @Tcook96 Před 7 měsíci +3

    I’m pretty sure they will actually keep the Hawaiian brand separate. Comparing it to Virgin America doesn’t make sense, because there was never any promise to keep those two brands separate, nor would that have made sense for that merger.

  • @johniii8147
    @johniii8147 Před 7 měsíci +5

    Damn, this is one thing few saw coming. No talk of it as there usually is. But not I'm sure it really makes sense from a network and fleet perspective. The whole keeping them "separate" also does not realize merger benefits. This merger is pretty confusing.

  • @NeilMacedo
    @NeilMacedo Před 7 měsíci

    I was really surprised to hear the news

  • @ericfritts7039
    @ericfritts7039 Před 7 měsíci

    Wow. Didn’t expect this .

  • @jameswaters3939
    @jameswaters3939 Před 7 měsíci +4

    IMO, if the sale does go through, Alaska should keep the Hawaiian brand for that part of the company.

  • @theonemouse
    @theonemouse Před 7 měsíci +9

    I hope to God that they do a similar deal like how Air France & KLM operate… I love the Hawaiian’s fleet is mixed and I love the Hawaiian brand too. I am worried as to what they will do with the A321neo aircraft though…

  • @Tokamak3.1415
    @Tokamak3.1415 Před 7 měsíci +1

    I guess I'm one of the few who wasn't surprised by this. When JetBlue took Spirit they pretty much dumped LGB and canceled almost all of their LAX service. I booked 6 flights from LAX to SEA only to have each one canceled. JetBlue gave up it's conquest of the West for the time being. Meanwhile, Alaska is now operating at maximum capacity at SNA and is desperate for gates. I fly on Hawaiian and Alaska frequently. The combined group could be very powerful if they can get their synergies in place. Both airlines are worlds better then American and United and usually better than Delta when on the Pacific rim.

  • @ValkyrieMagnus
    @ValkyrieMagnus Před 7 měsíci

    I live in Seattle and use both airlines. Alaska is great for my flights around the west coast and to Florida. When I go to Hawaii I fly Hawaiian Airlines. Alaska has always been the little airline when I was a kid but they have grown into a large airline. I like both airlines and I hope Hawaiian Airlines keeps their identity as a separate airline but still part of the Alaska umbrella.

  • @Rndmstff737
    @Rndmstff737 Před 7 měsíci +4

    I guess we can say goodbye to Hawaiian airlines airbus planes

    • @rylans.5365
      @rylans.5365 Před 7 měsíci

      The 787 is already slated to replace the aging fleet. At this time, the acquisition involves Hawaiian continuing to operate independently, but under the same umbrella. This means that all logos, trademarks, and liveries will remain untouched. Hawaiian Airlines is a flag carrier of the state of Hawaii, and I doubt the brand itself will ever sunset (terminate).

  • @Sams911
    @Sams911 Před 7 měsíci +8

    As a Hawaiian pilot (A321 CA) I think this will be a win/win if done right... if they just gut our brand and fleet it will not work... if they tweak this and tweak that, then it will create a growth and synergy.

    • @PrestigeWorldWide777
      @PrestigeWorldWide777 Před 7 měsíci

      Do you think they will keep the 717 or possibly contract that out for inter-island?

    • @Sams911
      @Sams911 Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@PrestigeWorldWide777 they will try to contract it to one of the regional carriers, however, the scope language in the Hawaiian Airlines contract, makes that extremely difficult

    • @ak1ranger
      @ak1ranger Před 7 měsíci

      They will absolutely gut the fleet and the brand, thats what they do. They don't want Hawaiian's routes, they want to remove Hawaiian's routes, its what they do. I worked for Alaska for 19 years, they are not a kind company and they do not care about legacy or heritage or history.

  • @RScottPR
    @RScottPR Před 7 měsíci +1

    Hawaiian has already purchased 787’s and there are plenty in the used market. My guess is we’ll see accelerated retirement of the A330’s. No idea about the A320/321 as range is an issue. The big question is the inter-island fleet. Hawaiian was said to start looking for a replacement of the 717’s. This almost guarantees Embraer or even 737-7 as the preferred choice of Alaska for the very short haul fleet.

  • @erauprcwa
    @erauprcwa Před 7 měsíci +10

    The VX/Alaska merger is a lot different than this. The VX merger had to happen, as JetBlue or Delta would've bought VX and caused issues for Alaska. This merger is keeping Southwest Airlines at bay with regards to the merger.
    I think Alaska will maintain Hawaiian as a separate branded carrier until the leaders of Alaska figure out international operations and regulator restrictions, since Alaska has only dealt with Canada, Mexico, Cuba, and Central America. After some time, I see them merging the two carriers entirely, once more 787 aircrafts come on property and they can fully transition away from Airbus to Boeing in the future.
    Learn from the mistakes of VX and grow as a carrier.

  • @mrbogeygolf6946
    @mrbogeygolf6946 Před 7 měsíci +1

    I believe Hawaiian was working to retire the A330s in favor of the 787. But they did just purchase a bunch of A 321 neos. Will be interesting to see what they do with those

  • @ThatBoeing747Guy
    @ThatBoeing747Guy Před 7 měsíci +3

    Did not see this coming.

  • @eugenedefrancia3010
    @eugenedefrancia3010 Před 7 měsíci

    Wow! Shocking news!

  • @jaypainespotter
    @jaypainespotter Před 7 měsíci

    Alawaiian Airlines, we have faces on our tails........ My home airport is PAE and Alaska just started service to HNL out of the regional airport here so this is amazing news.

  • @rickyism1576
    @rickyism1576 Před 7 měsíci

    I've always loved Hawaiian. Raised in the PNW and Stationed in Hawaii, i'd fly Alaska to Seattle and get a Hawaiian widebody to the Islands. Not sure what Alaska gets from this because they don't really compete for markets, and they now not only immediately reintroduce Airbus to the fleet, but widebodies at that. They did pay like less than half for Hawaiian than they did for Virgin though if I remember correctly.

  • @pinkasteriodea3480
    @pinkasteriodea3480 Před 7 měsíci +1

    As much of a shock as this was, they could be another Air France-KLM type group and have seperate branding and fleets

  • @donstravelsandrants.
    @donstravelsandrants. Před 7 měsíci +1

    Wow 😲.

  • @andrewsunde7915
    @andrewsunde7915 Před 7 měsíci

    I work for Alaska, and I was surprised when I saw the news

  • @craiggourley8703
    @craiggourley8703 Před 7 měsíci

    I've never flown Hawaiian, but my limited experience with Alaska has been positive - better than their larger U.S. competitors by far. I think this purchase by them makes sense in the short term, and it could really expand their reach long term.

    • @waikikilatino1
      @waikikilatino1 Před 7 měsíci

      Be reminded of the A321 Neos that Hawaiian just got! Those are brand new :)

  • @johnjennings9023
    @johnjennings9023 Před 7 měsíci

    Completely makes sense.. 👏🙌🏼🍻

  • @jshotwell454
    @jshotwell454 Před 7 měsíci

    What!? Total surprise!

  • @NNotSwiss
    @NNotSwiss Před 7 měsíci

    gezzz this is crazy!

  • @rony3358
    @rony3358 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Alaska 787s gonna be awesome

  • @delta_cosmic
    @delta_cosmic Před 7 měsíci

    the aviation news no body expected

  • @danc6253
    @danc6253 Před 7 měsíci

    Makes sense that they combine forces to compete with the big Four. Wouldn’t be surprised if they also acquired Jet Blue.

  • @iceman9678
    @iceman9678 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Think of the improved Alaska/Hawaii Air Cargo!

  • @AVgeek91
    @AVgeek91 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Seeing A330s & 787s in the Alaska Airlines livery seems strange.

  • @NicksDynasty
    @NicksDynasty Před 7 měsíci +1

    The two newest states partnering makes sense

  • @jwil4286
    @jwil4286 Před 7 měsíci

    so, if they are still operated as separate brands, would they at least have a shared rewards program (similar to how AirFrance and KLM do)?

  • @AKjohndoe
    @AKjohndoe Před 7 měsíci +1

    Alaska took over Hawaiian between Anchorage and Hawaii some time ago, so I'm not exactly shocked.

    • @johniii8147
      @johniii8147 Před 7 měsíci +1

      That would have nothing to do with this.

  • @stacky512a
    @stacky512a Před 7 měsíci

    at 1:41 you think you are watching a big plane taxi, then you see a really big Korean Air 380 plane in the background. Wowsers!

  • @coyotegrad-collectables
    @coyotegrad-collectables Před 7 měsíci +4

    Cool! I've been wanting to go on vacation to Hawaii, and have been debating whether to take Hawaiian or Alaskan.

    • @johniii8147
      @johniii8147 Před 7 měsíci +3

      Well maybe you'll have to wait a couple of years which is how long this will take to get all sorted.

  • @FloorItDuh
    @FloorItDuh Před 7 měsíci

    Well this came out of the blue. Did not expect to see this today.

  • @AviationforAustralia
    @AviationforAustralia Před 7 měsíci +1

    Welp, that wasn't expected.

  • @irtwiaos
    @irtwiaos Před 7 měsíci

    Great more consolidation.

  • @a.gproductions_official
    @a.gproductions_official Před 7 měsíci

    “Oh My God” that thumbnail says it all

  • @cellpat7392
    @cellpat7392 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Whoa! (11:00 pm NYC time Sunday nite and I just found this out.)
    I hope the Eskimo & the Hawaiian Queen will remain separate on their aircraft tails.
    I bet they will offer B6 & AA those almost new A321's.
    looks like they one - upped B6 again.

  • @Defan24
    @Defan24 Před 7 měsíci +6

    (My perspective - Grew up in the PNW on Alaska Airlines, recently moved to Hawaii)
    Holy shoot this is huge, Hawaiin's Boeing 717's for Interisland travel needs to be refreshed and I hope to see something huge come from Alaska-Hawaiin Airlines.
    Alaska-Hawaiin Airlines Service to Japan, South Korean, Australia, New Zealand, South Pacific Islands, and the longest Domestic flight from Boston to Honolulu.
    Hawaiin Strong position on the Islands Airports now under the Alaska-Hawaiin Brand.
    This would be the first time Alaska has had a Widebody jet too!
    Honestly, it would be awesome to see them take up the Hawaiin Airlines brand instead, or maybe revive the Ohana brand back for the Interisland flights back would be amazing!
    Great things are to come, I can feel it!

    • @dagoose.
      @dagoose. Před 7 měsíci

      Also you will get oneworld benefits on both airlines, and american will partner with them now

  • @iceman9678
    @iceman9678 Před 7 měsíci

    Go Alaska GO!

  • @Petriefied0246
    @Petriefied0246 Před 6 měsíci

    The strength of Hawaiian airlines is as the Pacific equivalent of Emirates, it would be a great way to connect the entire Pacific area.

  • @mstengel777
    @mstengel777 Před 7 měsíci +1

    This is a really smart business move. However I think they need to keep the name Hawaiian Air or even merge into that

  • @scottyflintstone
    @scottyflintstone Před 7 měsíci

    Big moves in HA stock tomorrow?

  • @slamtilt01
    @slamtilt01 Před 7 měsíci

    Need more information on this deal. My initial thought is oh goody Alaska will be going through the process of de-airbussing another airline. But that would just add to the takeover cost of the operation. Or is it that they will use Honolulu as a crew hub as well. I’m sure that would appeal instead of Seattle

  • @user-iu8lf6tj9w
    @user-iu8lf6tj9w Před 7 měsíci

    Actually, this is great news because it means expanding transportation options on the Alaska Airlines family. It's little secret that Alaska has wanted to expand service to Hawaii as well as consolidate services throughout the West Coast. The merger with Hawaiian Airlines means that now Hawaiian Airlines can now gain service throughout the West Coast of the United States.

  • @mr.noobser5692
    @mr.noobser5692 Před 7 měsíci +1

    I almost wonder if Hawaiian opting for the 787 vs the A330neo was part of preparation for the Alaska purchase, but i'm probably really stretching things.

    • @waikikilatino1
      @waikikilatino1 Před 7 měsíci

      A321 Neo not A330 Neo :)

    • @mr.noobser5692
      @mr.noobser5692 Před 7 měsíci

      @waikikilatino1 Actually yes A330neo. There was speculation a couple years ago that Hawaiian would go with the A330neo for their long hauls but they took the 787 instead.

  • @brucemiller8109
    @brucemiller8109 Před 7 měsíci +1

    The Frozen Drunk Eskimo can now go to Hawaii to warm up and dry out.

  • @Capt.OggyPeabodyOfficial
    @Capt.OggyPeabodyOfficial Před 7 měsíci +1

    There's an expectation for Hawaiian Airlines to become a full Boeing operated fleet once Alaska Airlines bought out Hawaiian Airlines

  • @stewram
    @stewram Před 7 měsíci

    Never saw this coming.

  • @codyslade5558
    @codyslade5558 Před 7 měsíci

    Shocking! Heard this earlier in the afternoon. WTF?

  • @df446
    @df446 Před 7 měsíci +2

    This has been rumored for years . . . I don't understand everyone's surprise.

  • @Buc_Stops_Here
    @Buc_Stops_Here Před 7 měsíci +1

    All Alaska Airlines members got an email last night about this. They will keep the brand Hawaiian Airlines but closely integrate their schedules and share all infrastructure to reduce operating costs with a larger fleet. Actually, a smart merger as they have few overlapping routes. The only disadvantage I see is they are primarily a west coast airline still with flights to the east coast just across the country and not north/south as many need to fly.

    • @user-yj6ok5rf8e
      @user-yj6ok5rf8e Před 7 měsíci

      I understand, but Alaska Airlines does fly to many cities on the East Coast, while HAL serves to the cities in the West Coast, so the flights under both should be balance, for example: HAL brings passengers to SEA and they then can connect to their East Coast destinations where Alaska Airlines flies. Same thing with the west-bound jets. I heard that HAL twice filed for the bankruptcy protections. So, my theory is that if Alaska Airlines didn’t buy HAL, then it means that maybe HAL would fold down its business. So, that is why Alaska Airlines purchased HAL, so that Alaska Airlines can let HAL to operate their business everyday. I would love to fly both of them one day.

    • @user-yj6ok5rf8e
      @user-yj6ok5rf8e Před 7 měsíci

      Also, one thing is that I don’t like the airlines to merger into with others. Oh well…

    • @Buc_Stops_Here
      @Buc_Stops_Here Před 7 měsíci

      @@user-yj6ok5rf8e Your are right. The financials are - Alaska pays off the 900 million dollars of debt, and buys Hawaiian for 1 billion dollars - total cost, 1.9 billion. Hawaiian is in a lot of trouble because Southwest is eating it up in Hawaii as it has expanded its presence and taken sales away from them. The only profitable part of of Hawaiian is their flights to Asia. This does not solve the North south flight problem on the east coast but otherwise helps Alaska stay competitive with the huge big 4 (Delta, United, Amercian, Southwest) and allows Alaskan to stay about the same size as a merged JetBlue/Sprit Airlines which does have an East Coast presence.

    • @Buc_Stops_Here
      @Buc_Stops_Here Před 7 měsíci

      @@user-yj6ok5rf8e I don't disagree but only the big airlines seem to survive now. The only exception to this rule left is the profitable Frontier airlines left in Denver.

  • @thomasburke7995
    @thomasburke7995 Před 7 měsíci +1

    I dont think regulatory bodies will let this happen . With Hawaiian being essentially a airbus fleet this purchase is about getting access to markets and the 787 and potential 777x orders..

    • @jeffssaunders
      @jeffssaunders Před 7 měsíci

      Huh?

    • @cxa340
      @cxa340 Před 7 měsíci

      Regulators will have no real cause to block this purchase. HA is in bad financial shape and the DOJ will have to somehow convince a judge that a possibly bankrupt HA is better for consumers than HA under AS operations - I do not see that argument going far. There is plenty of competition on the Hawaii routes so it will be tough to argue somehow AS will be able to dominate any one market

  • @hawaiifiles
    @hawaiifiles Před 7 měsíci +1

    Huge news all day here in Hawaii. Bottom line Hawaiian had $900 million in debt which Alaska will retire. I can see eventually both airlines having an all Boeing fleet.

    • @waikikilatino1
      @waikikilatino1 Před 7 měsíci

      I am ok with an all Boeing Fleet. I prefer Boeing over Airbus. As for the $900 million debt, I blame Ingram! He sucks as a CEO. He's no Mark Dunkerley. Mark was an amazing CEO who is missed. I had the opportunity to meet him and he's a brilliant man. He brought all that experience from Sabena Airlines!

  • @Deedeemegadoodoopoocoo
    @Deedeemegadoodoopoocoo Před 7 měsíci +2

    I think Hawaiian will still be around. Just a separate identity, but same companies.

  • @Dan.d649
    @Dan.d649 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Quite a shock!! These two great airlines combining to become Alaska Airlines is beyond anything unheard of. As far as the fleet is concerned, that is what bears the most confusion. I think Alaska Airlines will replace all the Airbus A330s with the newer Boeing 787-9 Dreamliners that were previously ordered by Hawaiian Airlines. However, what they decide to do with the new Airbus A321 NEOS is beyond me. These aircraft do have good range, but will they fit into their future route portfolio, I don't know. The Boeing 737-700, 800, and 900 and the 737-MAX airplanes have all done really well in that fleet and I think they should consider keeping an "all Boeing" fleet since their Seattle base is right close to Boeing buildings and hangers. The Airbus A321 NEOs are newer aircraft however, and they probably would keep them for 1 to two years and utilize them until I think, more Boeing "replacements" come along.

  • @briansparks4926
    @briansparks4926 Před 7 měsíci +10

    A330 is being replaced by B787 over time. Alaska will over time replace the other Airbus types as they never signed any contracts with Airbus so my expectation is that they will deal with the issue in the same manners as they dealt the the Virgin America acquisition.

    • @johniii8147
      @johniii8147 Před 7 měsíci +2

      They will have to wait for any lease agreements to expire or if purchased will have to have to pay for remaining payment obligations. If they do end up buying them AS in the hook for all of that. They don't just go away. With VA that's exactly how it worked out. They continued to pay the lease payments until expiration and the final batch of 321Neo they took a big right off to get out the lessees and brokered a deal to sell them to AA.

  • @markvolpe2305
    @markvolpe2305 Před 7 měsíci +1

    What would this mean for the Boeing 717's island hopping planes?

    • @louise9100
      @louise9100 Před 7 měsíci

      HA had been planning to replace those 717 early this year anyway. They haven’t decided which plane gonna replace it tho

    • @michaelhorgan9525
      @michaelhorgan9525 Před 7 měsíci

      We don't know at this point but Hawaiian was looking at used A319/320CEO's. I could also see older Alaska 737's and see how that works. Big thing is that Hawaiian uses mainline crews to operate their interisland flights so it might be hard to do a Horizon style operation over there with RJ's.

  • @Abisanth11
    @Abisanth11 Před 7 měsíci +3

    Oh, this came out of nowhere

  • @bonzobonanza
    @bonzobonanza Před 7 měsíci +37

    A simple reminder: Just because Alaska and Hawaiian are joining forces doesn't mean they will integrate their fleets into one airline. They will still remain as separate brands.

    • @nickolliver3021
      @nickolliver3021 Před 7 měsíci +2

      just like Vistara and Air India right? Or Jetblue and Spirit?

    • @bonzobonanza
      @bonzobonanza Před 7 měsíci

      @@nickolliver3021 It's not like those airlines. TATA plans to close down Vistara, and JetBlue wants to close down Spirit. Alaska Group, however, will let Hawaiian operate as its own brand.

    • @johniii8147
      @johniii8147 Před 7 měsíci +2

      That doesn't go well in the US. VERY questionable strategy.

    • @johniii8147
      @johniii8147 Před 7 měsíci

      @@nickolliver3021 Vistara brand is going away and if the merger (big IF) is approved the Sprit brand will go away as well.

    • @fixpacifica
      @fixpacifica Před 7 měsíci +1

      Separate brands for now.

  • @brucebaker111
    @brucebaker111 Před 7 měsíci +7

    Hawaiians' strategy is to replace the A330 with the 787. That can still do that with boeing. Perhaps we will see Max 7s being flown inter Island. The A321s make sense for the West Coast runs. Whatever happens, it will take time. Alaska has done a great job maintaining the separate Horizon brand for many years. Thank Southwest Airlines for forcing this deal to happen.

    • @johniii8147
      @johniii8147 Před 7 měsíci +1

      You were completely focused on the wrong issue. Of why the merger would happen.. really has nothing to do with fleet

  • @user-gj6ke6su4t
    @user-gj6ke6su4t Před 7 měsíci +8

    If these airlines merge, then it would be jaw dropping wowing to see an Alaska A330

    • @nickolliver3021
      @nickolliver3021 Před 7 měsíci +2

      We wont see this change. Alaska 787-9 from Hawaiian? do we see that in a few years time? Who knows

    • @johniii8147
      @johniii8147 Před 7 měsíci +3

      You won't see that.

    • @RashadKhanAviation2023
      @RashadKhanAviation2023 Před 7 měsíci +6

      @@nickolliver3021 I could potentially see an Alaska 787-9 for sure. Maybe Hawaiian and Alaska can spilt the order into half, so Alaska can have their share of planes from the purchase.

    • @RashadKhanAviation2023
      @RashadKhanAviation2023 Před 7 měsíci

      I’d love to see an Alaska A330 as well, but it’s not gonna happen, but Alaska may be forced to have the A321neos again.(As said in the video)

    • @nickolliver3021
      @nickolliver3021 Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@RashadKhanAviation2023 It depends on if alaskan want the 787 in their fleet. If they don't then they will be separated and still have hawaiian brand

  • @MetalTeamster
    @MetalTeamster Před 7 měsíci

    I wonder if the 787s that were delayed and finally to be delivered will be cancelled?