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6 Mistakes To Avoid With Clip In Pedals | MTB Skills
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- čas přidán 5. 08. 2024
- Using clipless or clip in pedals when mountain biking can be intimidating for those who haven’t used them before. But don’t let that put you off, they will soon become an intuitive part of your MTB rides, allowing you better pedalling efficiency and security. Neil shows you a few mistakes to avoid when using them, from unclipping to poor technique.
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If you’re starting out with cleats and pedals it’s important to practise twisting your ankle to unclip. Don’t worry about falling off, we’ve all done it.
Try and get pedals and shoes that work well together, with matching interfaces that allow you to clip in and out easily. The same goes for the type of riding that you do, lightweight narrow pedals are great for racing cross country, but won’t offer the same sort of stability and engagement that a larger downhill or enduro pedal does. Cleat placement for MTB shoes is a matter of personal preference but the general rule is to not have them too far forward on your shoe so that the ball of your foot is in line with the pedal axle.
Finally it can be easy to let your clip in pedals develop poor MTB technique, we’ve all done it. Learning the correct rear wheel lift technique will enable you to ride much more safely over jumps and drops, whilst also enabling you to lift the rear wheel much higher than you can otherwise by just lifting with your legs.
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Do you have any tips for mountain biking with clip in pedals? Share them in the comments below 👇
biggest thing is taking a foot out before you actually stop. first time, you might forget you're on clips and fall over, but it's not a big deal. more just embarrassing than any real problem
Don't forget to check the clip bolts. I went to unclip only to find my foot fully rotated and still stuck to the pedal. I had to come off my shoe. Found out one of my bolts came off. So safety first, check those bolts, no one likes a surprise ending
Neil, did you have a crashmat out of frame to fall on to? Or did you go full method actor and hit the ground? :D
Best advice i have... Go Flats!!!
oh, don't have your pedals too loose. Find easier to unclip with decent tension on my SPD's. When loose, they are not as positive in the unclipping and also don't hold your shoe in when you are in the air.
People give up too early to get used to using clipless, it takes at least 10 good long rides to get used to them, you will crash, just man up and get used to the pedals to gain the huge advantage they offer
Been riding clipless for a long time. Really it's just practice makes perfect. Just got new shoes and still working on finding the sweet spot for my cleats on them!
Awesome! I've got a dodgy left foot due to bad injury. I use spd on my hardtail and I'm always falling over to the left on slow technical stuff. I've just ordered some multi release cleats (shimano SH56) - I'd never heard of these before. I just use one of these for my left shoe. Thank you
Get Clipless, they are so worth it. I’m a X-Country Race for my High school team & They seriously give 2x the power! I was getting between 25-30th using flats during races. But after I switched, I jumped up to top 15 out of 108 JV.
It takes practice, getting Clipper in & Clipping our but after it’s prime🤙🏼
@Stormwebb19 probably to late but I'd pick up some Ht X2's
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Go ride roadbikes posers
@Stormwebb19 i'm starting dh racing this year (just turned 13 and you have to be at least 13 to race dh in Canada)
I got crankbrothers mallet dh and they work great lots of float and easy to clip in which is especially important for dh.
(if you want to feel completely locked into the bike to the point where taking your shoes off might be easier then ht is definitely a good option🤣)
With the crankbrothers pedals whips and tables are a bit more difficult because your shoes might unclip (not scrubs because you don't really twist your shoes too much)
So yeah it's kind of your choice in the end
(Shimano pedals don't always sit flat on the pins so they might not be the best option)
Ofbaserion lol. Riding XC doesn’t make you a poser
I'm sure clipless has its advantages, but then you lock yourself into buying expensive bicycle shoes. I use clips and wear my work boots when I ride. Been doing it for many years!
Road to GMBN 1 million subscribers I'm so excited
It was awesome Neil, keep going
I started riding and racing road bikes in 1990 clipped in with Shimano SPD. When I started riding and racing MT.Bikes it was just natural to be clipped in. It’s a matter of experience and exposure to road riding and having a racing background.
Nice bike Neil!!
I love clips coming from my bmx racing background but on the trails at least the local ones hear in modesto next to the river i couldn't imaging riding or hitting the jumps i do on clips!
Great vid guys
I'm using sandals slippers on trails for, so far so good.
+1 for the Shimano SPD multi-release cleats (SH-56 if you want a part number). As well as the normal twist to release, they also let you pull out up/sideways... which is the natural direction to pull out when you're about to fall sideways. Saved my bacon a number of times now.
The sh-56 are super dangerous. The injury from falling over is minimal. On any technical trail, pulling up is essential. If you also use for feet, to say clear a jump or bunny hop over a ditch, you could unexpectedly pop off.
I’ve rode clips for years and thought of riding flats scares me, I used to slip off my pedals on flats on rocky terrain, clips stopped this and as a result I became more confident, I don’t even think about most rocky stuff anymore, I realise now though that I could of achieved the same result with a grippier pedal and shoe combination, might give it a try as clips has definitely caused me some bad habits, great vid 😁👍🏻
I would try clipless if I were you. Easier to quickly release from the pedals than toe clips.
i had the tension up so high once time on my DH bike that when i fell the shoes stayed with the bike when i fell off! lol.. i ride DH on flats now~Shwinn8, MTBR/Pinkbike
One of the best videos to analyze riding clipped in. This is the first GMBN Crank Brothers sponsored video that has talked about Shimano pedals ability to adjust tension and use a multi release cleat to assist those riders learning to ride while clipped in. I have been riding clipped in for about 25 years so I have some experience with the subject. I came from a road riding and racing background and eventually raced mountain bike cross country.Recently I tried riding flats with pins but just could not get use to not being connected. The only advantage I had was bailing out when I failed to clear an obstacle or tech section that I always clear when I am clipped in and able to keep pedaling because my feet haven’t bounced up and off.
Same here. 58 year old ex amateur racer. Road first,then MTN bikes. Always used clipless pedals. Shimano rules.
Platforms the best on the technical single track in SE WI😁. I use crank bro’s and the clip less egg beaters on my road bike👍🏻
Practice in a field with soft ground and if you have crash pants elbow pads and knee pads .
If not pick up some cheap roller blade equipment for like $50 . Go to a stop and at first wait till you lose balance and unclip both feet at same time. When you feel good just unclip the side that you begin to fall to .That way you can repeat . As well sometimes we stand so do that too.
Stop while standing and so sit quickly to twist off. When you get better you can push weight to the handle bars and unclip as well.
It is better to practice safely than wait until there may be harsher consequences.
To make a long story short practice in a soft terrain field , cheers .
anthony not sure you need to do all that to learn haha😂
Hi Neil can you do a bike check on that canyon you have
My rule of thumb is, before I apply the breaks I release my foot from the pedal. After a while this becomes second nature.
The GMBN outfit looks sick!
ok was just watching jerryrig's electric wheelchair-bike video and i think u guys should make one for marty. wud be cool.
We need a review on the 2.6 contis please
I've ridden SPD clipped for more than 5 years. You have such good tips. I fucking love riding clipped and would recommend it to anyone into biking. For me it's like the difference of driving an automatic or manual transmission. No comparison.
321 and me if it spd today very smooth ride
That CANYON looks so awesome
It has grip shifters...
It looks cool and all but it has grip shifters 😷 so that's an automatic no
When i bought my Orbea second hand it came with clips and shoes lol... had to learn quick
bruhhh we got the same brand although mine is hardtail
I am just a natural at platform and clipless and I ride cycleocross with clipless and mtb on platform and the only time I have fallen on the clipless was when one of my teams coaches was talking and we were all standing there and my bike started to fall to the side that I still had clipped In. so I just don’t fail very often with those to types of pedals and platform pedals I just take my fear of when I fall not as bad as clipless ones
I use multi release on my gravel bike. Perfect if you ask me.
even after several months I couldn't get used to them so I'm going with flats again
Perfectly fine
any tips, i can both bunny hop and side hop with the correct technique and with flats but when i put clips on i feel like my side hop with clips on is more reliant on the pedals who can i reduce this. I do try to use the same technique I use with flats where i can turn around 180. pls help
Seen you wearing those jackets a few times now, are they coming to the store soon?
I love ur videos.....dammm good.......gmbn
when I practice I don’t lean against something because it makes me scared if I fall. So the first time wearing a clip I ride around my neighborhood so it gives me more space if I fall.
my god that Canyon is gorgeous 😮
Sick avatar broseph!
Jajaj siempre los mismos errores, uno de los motivos por lo que uso plataformas, saludos desde chile 🇨🇱
I went over a jump and my pedal ripped out of the crank and was stuck on my shoe. I had to walk about a mile with a spd pedal on my shoe. I started riding clipless back when look pedals came out. I was riding road pedals and shoes off-road. I have never looked back. I can’t ride flats. They feel weird.
Live your bike!
Tried & tried with clip in pedals (8 months) and after many falls from not being able to clip out on technical gravel and rock climbs I've given up and switched back to a nice big flat pedal with pins for grip.
Undoubtedly clips increase performance on down hill and flat riding but for the 45 year old amateur rider the risk of injury on steep technical climbs is just too much.
Kept my clips for winter riding where i do more easy trail riding and dry feet are easier to achieve with a good pair of over shoes.
I was thinking of changing to clips but got scared but now I know what to avoid!
Let us know how you get on if you try them!
ok sure!
But be careful - after a season or so - riding without them again turns out to be even scarier! ;)
That's because they promote terrible habits! If you insist on riding clips for everyday riding (ie: not racing), you may want to start each season (or just pick a month if you ride year-round) with a few weeks on flats to make sure your brain & body don't forget how to maintain pressure on the pedals and how to jump/hop without totally relying on the clips.
alright haha
If using Shimano SPD pedals, use the SILVER multi release cleats. Way easier to unclip as you can unclip at an angle.
That Lux...
Can I have the link for the shoes and the pedal
shimano saint groupset !!! only in my dream😖☺️😌
I cant twist my foot outward I have to go into or toward the bike
The new canyon looks freaking insane
I'm looking to switch to clipless. Correct me if I'm wrong here....I understand that the only contact surface with the bike is that part of a pedal that clips into cleats on your shoes? Then what is the purpose of a cage around a pedal. Why XC pedals have no cage at all and something like Mallet have huge flats-like one? If you're clipped in it shouldn't matter should it?
More gravity oriented shoes have inset spaces for the cleats. This means that the rest of the sole of the show can make contact with the cage around the pedal. It helps when you unclip in a rough section to find your pedal again and have some grip before you can clip in again. It also helps with a bit more support.
What shoes are those you are wearing and do they run big, small or true to size? Thank you.
Northwave Outcross SPD MTB Shoes
I think it's those but I'm not too sure on sizing
3:40 I wore shimano m087 size 50 now switched to M300 size 51 and even with that large size I have cleat all the way back. IMO fore/aft cleat placement is not needed. Do you guys with small feets need to push the cleat forward so it's not under feet arch?
The reason we push the clear forwards is for better power transfer, mostly for xc riders
If you have good technique, riding in clips just feels a little more solid.
You are completely correct my friend
It feels kinda like hack to sets of handlebars because you get more solid controll
Lol nobody like it cus of the number
Totally, more efficient peddling too.
Bro the first time i used clipless pedals on a trail
I did it on the worst trail possible
Steep rocky hills
Ruts from tractors (yes we go on extreme trails on tractor paths, its harder than it looks)
The 2nd time i fell with clips. The clips just bent on the bottom of my shoe so i had one shoe clipped in
While the other unclipped
Well it did help me not to be afraid
Hmm Grip shifer?? don't se many of those these days!!! Neil you keep surpising me ! ::)
Great video im thinking about going clipless
great for long rides, not that perfect when in rough terrain going downhill..good luck 🤘
@@RandomTheoriesthanks ive got a Hardtail so harder to keep feet on pedals when in bumpy sections
They're great for road/gravel riding, and climbing is a lot easier. But I'd never clip in on my mtb.
henry farron mate don’t listen to most of these people from gmbn comments about 20% actually ride and arnt little kids. The only negative I see with clips is the process of learning how to unclip without thinking about it. Once you have learnt only positives: you feel more connected to your bike, ability to unweight ur back wheel and move around your bike without worrying about keeping weight on your pedals , pedal efficiency and being able to manoeuvre your back wheel around easier.
@@NoLimitFrenchyNoLimitFrxnchy is it quite hard to bail or will you get used to it because im a begginer and crash a lot
Clip in meaning clip less correct ?!
This is madness !
Broke my left ankle with a clipped pedal and the fun part of it I was using clips (SPD) for years before that. For me the preferred setting is really low tension, so it hardly holds my feet. My main purpose of it anyhow, so my leg doe not slide off.
Make a video on those magped magnet pedals
Why does the shimano xtr pedals look so different?
Must have hard work carrying the crash mat for Neil fall on at the start.
what is the frame size of this bike?
What northwave model does neil used?
I just bought a set of crank brother mallets E and RC shoes.
but I’m VERY scared haha. I hope I made the right decision..
Same lol.... I'll be trying them out this weekend.
@@meganNefarious be prepared to fall off 😝 good luck. They’re awesome though once getting used to them.
I’ve never fallen off declining with speed.
only going up a corner on incline and leaning too far one way and obviously being connected I fall
@@AlegrasoundsAU I'm just worried about not being able to unclip in time during a crash... I live in the PNW and ride steep, rooty rocky double blacks...lol
I can bunny hop with flats just as well as I can with clips but I still feel like I cheat a little when using clips
Forgetting your clipped in when doing a weelie and overshooting it :D...in front of all your friends. back to flats we go :D
Pride before the fall? Sounds familiar 🤔
Now if only CrankBrothers were as bombproof as Shimano
i use flats on my mountain bikes but i recently bought a gravel/adventure bike and decided to go clipless with that,, oh the funny falling over moments, like when the back wheel starts to wheelspin on a patch of mud while going up a steep rough climb and panic sets in so the feet don't release,, oh how we all laughed at that one, hohoho...
Totally worth it!
Crank Brothers does have the easy release cleats now. I think it's a six degree release
Dammit wish Id bought these!!
Also, I always unclip non-drive side/left foot first as, if you do get it wrong and hit the deck, you won't damage your derailleur or bend the hanger.
Good tip!
I'm a simple person. I see GBMN video, I click.
This is good behaviour.
1:19 percent or degrees ?
Is it safe to wear this type of shoes in downhill?
No
The DEVILS PAWS! Knocking on hells door with these things.
Did Neil have grip shift on his bike?
@@anthonymowl5758 No, its a grip shifter
Damn thats a super nice bike!
Is the bin liner vest good?
Wow
15, 20 deg, not % (percent)?
Grip shifter?
Yeah... The Canyon Lux comes with a Gripshifter. Not sure Neil agrees 100% with it. Time will tell.
I ride clipless beacouse of a disability i am not able to keep my left foot on the pedal, thats why i fixate my foot with clipless pedals
Saprisingly I have never got stuck in my clipless pedals
Love how some in the comments call them ”clips” and some call them ”clipless” 🙂 Which one is it?
either gets your point across really but the technical term is clipless.
@@jonathanmeyer188 because when they first came out they replaced pedals with toe clips and straps.
Is grip shift becoming a thing again?
No there shit
@@kwmtb9320 how so?
@@isthisnametaken978 When you're in the wet the grips becomes slippery and you can't change gear and you get big blisters on your hands eventually
@@kwmtb9320 yup all my skin peeled off really deep because of grip shifters. But dont worry thats my fuck around bike i just ride it for fucking around for example pull wheelies with my mates
Is that a grip shifter 🤢
Probably, or a twistlock remote. Sram makes both of those and they're pretty noice 👍
Archie Dawes MTB yeah I think it is I hate them too
Definetly a gripshifter. Immediate turnoff when drooling on canyon bikes, like Neills new Canyon Lux.
well Canyon's XC bikes come with grip shifters..
@@dahee_ incorrect. Depends on the model.
I still don't understand how moving your hips will pick up the back wheel. Is it that you're pushing with your arms to drive the front end down? It just doesn't make sense to me yet.
It's just curl your feet around the pedals sorta then pre load your suspension and explode forward.
So if everyone moves the cleat to the very back of the slot... Why don't they just make the shoes with the slots further back.🤔🤔
what type of pedals do i need for northwave origin.
You forgot falling. Avoid falling when using clipless pedals should be number one.
The could quite literally be the worst possible cleat placement, or your shoes are way too big for you.
The cleats should be positioned such that the ball of your foot is in line with the pedal axle
Multi release cleats are not just for beginners i start riding mtbikes seriously when i was 14 and i was using shimano standard cleats when i mastered using cleats on Clipless pedals when i was 16 i switch to multi release so i can unclip anytime and easier ti unclip if i crash..its like a combined foot out technique of flats with a strength of a Clipless #justsaying☺✌👍
New Canyon Lux???
Nice spotting!
Thank you
I'm worried about crashing when your clipped in, it's a problem that your stuck to your bike. I'll just stay with flat pedals
ABD360G i have now clips on my MTB and i have to say. Its just the first time u have to know how it works. On the track it is tacatical shifting 🤟🏻
Nice Bike! (Tip guys just stay on flats) :)
if i had to bet..that Canyon is only a loaner for this video as a sponsor. Neil wouldn't run a lockout/dropper lever like that and it is on the wrong side.
Yeah, it's his new Lux as Anthony said. We think he's still working out the setup with it. But he may just use the lockout and dropper like that: the mysteries of Neil of never ending.
I'm afraid if I fall I can't keep my balance.
I miss blake
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I do see the advantages of clips but for me they don't seem to outweigh the risk involved with falling. Imagine MotoGP being clipped in...
first thing that clipless pedal does when you crash is disengage, that is its default action, so if MotoGP uses it for some silly reason, they will not be any in danger than not being clipped in.
I personally hate riding with clips it surely is good for steep climbs but i just dont feel comfortable with it.
I bet they used Blake to find all the mistakes
wtf.. i just started using clipless pedals today.. creepy
😳
what if you fall?
I actually drilled extra holes in my shoes to put the cleats even further back.